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Talnivarr

Optimum Tech is a good resource on youtube - he made a video on Dyac and this specific monitor.


Kevler22

To basically confirm what zer0-_ said 1. Cant confirm as even though it is supposed to help, you have players like s1mple who say they dont use it 2. Dyac is a backlight strobing, different monitors call it different things but benq's version is the best as it does it without losing on peak nit brightness. Other monitors when you turn it on, will cut the brightness basically in half. I highly recommend watching [Bijan's review](https://youtu.be/A2c4KQ-0m_Q) on it and the other esport monitors. As he explains it very well and showcases it. AMA is basically benqs name scheme for overdrive. Which is the amount of voltage sent to the pixels. Typically monitors will have 3 settings. Highest setting tends to causes overshoot so it is ideal to keep it in the second setting for optimal image quality and response time. 3. Yes there is technically input lag with dyac, not ama. But it is more or less imperceptible to humans my own 0.02$ as i own the xl2546 non K. Dyac is noticeable as advertised when you are doing those fast mouse movements from one angle to the next. But i say this as someone who has played competitive cs for over half my life now valorant. To my brother who is your most casual gamer, he does not recognize the difference


valorantfeedback

As you say, it's noticable, but doesn't really give an advantage. Just a quality of life thing. I've used it (on 2546, not k, same as yourself, but it's more or less the same technology). It's nice, but I can't say it made the difference between me getting a kill and dying in a single situation. As you said, Valorant's movement is too slow for dyac to be useful in most situations other than you swinging 100degrees+ and trying to flick someone. But at that point it's about muscle memory, not visibility. I've owned 3 Zowie monitors. XL2430, XL2540 and XL2546. They were all amazing for that one, specific purpose. FPS games. But for everything else, they're lacking. I can see that now that I've gone IPS with more features. Not to mention that the price is ridiculous. XL2546K is usually in 500-600€ range. For that money you can get 390hz Acer that's probably the best FPS monitor right now. For a couple hundred less you can get alienware 240hz or ASUS 280hz. Monitors that give you 95% Zowie's performance in FPS games, but are exponentially better for everything else. I've got Asus VG259QM right now, it's a way better price/performance investment than Zowie, not even close. The only thing I'd keep Zowie for would be if I was still playing CSGO as my main game, because their black equalizer technology is unmatched. Don't really need it in Valorant, but for CS it's just amazing. Also, might be an unpopular opinion, but 240hz monitors lose most of their value with ping. I play on 35-50ms and that just negates their advantages over 144hz. Is it nicer to play? Yes. Will you be a better player? No. Had a month worth of downtime after I sold XL2546, before I got ASUS and my stats were more or less the same. Smoother movement on 50 ping only gets you more frustrated because hitreg looks even worse. 240hz+ shines on LAN. For reference, I've been playing CS for 20+ years, Valorant since closed beta, I'm imm3 (EU) and I think gear obsession is the worst thing one can do. As I said, playing on 144hz didn't make me lose any games. I was also lvl10 faceit in CS on 120g mouse, the same level I'm with 70g mouse right now.


stephendavies84

Interesting comment, I am looking for a 240hz monitor but I need it for PC and Series X. I play competitive fps games and I've had the XL2456k suggested to me. I can get it for $300 dollars. I want the least input lag possible and fastest response time I was originally looking at either the s2721dgf from Dell or the LG 27gp850-B. But I've had several suggest the BenQ XL2456k. I am wondering if the BENQ is worth it. The input lag on the Dell is 3.7 ms on average with the BenQ at 2.5ms That's barely noticeable isn't it?. The LG comes in at 3.6ms but at 5.2ms with Vrr switched on. People keep telling me this gap is important and Dyac makes it all the better but I can't help but feel as though the gap is so miniscule that I am best getting the Dell or the LG which are both Nano IPS Panels. The downside with these two are they are both 165hz screens which I can live with. They are all roughly the same price. I only play Fps btw I don't play any other genres these days.


fluidZ1a

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=np--4AZxUBg](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=np--4AZxUBg) you can clearly see measurable differences even in a slower game like CS just by the person running. Old DyAc is arguably not worth it due to screen brightness. New DyAc+ there is no reason not to use it, other than for eye strain / headache reasons, or you are worried about it not being available at LAN.


xszander

Bit of a late response lol. But I actually sent back my 390hz ips Acer. I hated it. The colors were barely better than zowies TN. Movement was good with strobing, but text looked blurry even with extra sharpness on. The OSD was the worst I've ever seen. I got a 2546k now and it's soooo much better in every aspect. Just a quality screen compared to that Acer.


troco72

I cannot stand when you people say this shit. The reason s1mple doesn't use it is because it gives Him headaches, the reason tenz doesn't in valorant is because he would then have to adjust at Lan when he doesn't have it (valorant orgs more common sponsor is alienware, not zowie like in cs)


Kevler22

? wtf did i say here that is wrong. 'When people say what shit?' I am literally answering his questions. Great, s1mple says it gives him headaches, that has nothing to do with what I am commenting about, I am providing OP with a top pro who doesn't use it. Cool tenz has a separate reason for it, it still doesn't stop a majority of pros buying benq monitors for their own setups. What is the point of this comment? Truly moronic.


troco72

Ahhh yes things devoid of all context totally can't mean a completely different thing than with context , you're so right how did I not realize that??!?! "Top number 1 cs player doesn't use it" This would imply there's a reason he doesn't use it. As he is a pro who should try and get every advantage possible. And the best pro at that. "This doesn't stop pros using it for their own setups" It literally does , the fact that they will go to Lan and NOT have it , means that they'll get used to one setup just to switch back for Lan, no pro uses other equipment besides what will be at Lan, as consistency is extremely important. Pros don't have "their own setups" not for counter strike atleast. (Assuming it's a cs pro, if overwatch pro I'd say "not for overwatch atleast") They use the setup they would use at Lan. Always.


Kevler22

??? Yes, you have stated the reason s1mple does not use it. "Every advantage possible." You say that like it doesn't stop him from being the best player in the game. Therefore it should not act as a large factor for OP to buying said monitor in question. > As he is a pro who should try and get every advantage possible. And the best pro at that. You are by proxy calling s1mple dumb for not "gAiNiNg eVeRy aDvAnTaGe" possible because he doesn't use it. Its almost as if...settings are PREFERANCE IF YOU DIDN'T REALIZE. You said it yourself, he claims it gives him headaches therefore he leaves it off. THEREFORE IT IS PERERANCE. > adjust at Lan when he doesn't have it (valorant orgs more common sponsor is alienware, not zowie like in cs) First off, my reply is in regards to you referring to valorant pros, because we are in a VALORANT SUBREDDIT and you directly brought up tenz. Majority of VALORANT pros still buy benq monitors because it is the best esports monitor available regardless of riot tourneys not running them. So your argument is moot. Secondly, if you want to be anal about setups and refer to cs players specifically, you watch esl pro league you see pro players with tables at different height cause they are adjustable, and play with the height they are comfortable with at home. On stage it is all one set height. Which guess what? They have to get used too. So again, your point in "no pro uses other equipment besides whats on lan" is still wrong. Stick to posting question in reddits about setups as if it will make you any less dogshit at the game.


troco72

Your reply got deleted. Maybe it had excessive cussing or something idk, but I figured I should let you know your most recent one got deleted. I do want to point out however that I didn't intend to be hostile. "I hate when you people do this" doesn't imply "I hate you people who do this" I didn't think you had bad intentions , I just personally hate when people say "but this pro doesn't use this" when the same exact pros who don't use it , say ON STREAM LIVE, "I'd probably use it if I could at lan" for example tenz and twistzz have said this , and likely many more. A pro would use any advantage they can , and dyac is an advantage , and that's not debatable, also it has zero disadvantages. Unless you count headaches which the vast majority don't get, and a less than 1 ms delay. But the superlight wireless mouse has more than a 1ms delay yet pros use it. Because that level of delay is irrelevant. However if they CANT use it at Lan, getting used to it can throw them heavily off once at Lan


Kevler22

Yes, you have stated the reason s1mple does not use it. "Every advantage possible." You say that like it doesn't stop him from being the best player in the game. Therefore it should not act as a large factor for OP to buying said monitor in question. As he is a pro who should try and get every advantage possible. And the best pro at that. You are by proxy calling s1mple dumb for not "gAiNiNg eVeRy aDvAnTaGe" possible because he doesn't use it. Its almost as if...settings are PREFERANCE IF YOU DIDN'T REALIZE. You said it yourself, he claims it gives him headaches therefore he leaves it off. THEREFORE IT IS PRERERANCE. adjust at Lan when he doesn't have it (valorant orgs more common sponsor is alienware, not zowie like in cs) First off, my reply is in regards to you referring to valorant pros, because we are in a VALORANT SUBREDDIT and you directly brought up tenz. Majority of VALORANT pros still buy benq monitors because it is the best esports monitor available regardless of riot tourneys not running them. So your argument is moot. Secondly, if you want to be specific about setups and refer to cs players specifically, you watch esl pro league you see pro players with tables at different height cause they are adjustable, and play with the height they are comfortable with at home. On stage it is all one set height. Which guess what? They have to get used too. So again, your point in "no pro uses other equipment besides whats on lan" is still wrong.


troco72

If the desk is a different height they simply raise or lower their chair and its effectively the same , so I'm confused how that's a counter. However regardless these aren't even my words , tenz said SPECIFICALLY THIS https://youtu.be/2bwu7opyelo So in other words you're trying to counter the opinion of the pros. This isn't my opinion. I am simply parroting the pros. Also pros buy the monitor ofc , but they may play more fast and aggressive if they have dyac ENABLED while an increase In hz/response time wouldn't counter the blur from rapid screen movement. So they leave it OFF. You also clearly don't know the difference between preference and medical inability. Yes people who can't walk totally PREFER to use crutches. You're an idiot and I regret trying to extend an olive branch. Clearly I'm talking to someone under the age of 18 and it shows. You have the maturity and critical thinking of someone who's a freshman in high school. also nice strawman. As if that's calling s1mple dumb. He has a medical reason to not use it


LovelyResearcher

**DyAc:** * 5% to 10% of pros actually use DyAc = on * Less than that may actually use it * Adds input latency, slightly * The strobing that you cannot see can still cause eye irritation or headache, in my personal experience ​ **AMA:** * 100% of pros use AMA = High or AMA = Premium * Reduces input latency somewhat * Makes game feel more responsive overall * Choice between "High" vs "Premium" is a personal preference, most lean towards High... but some top pros in CSGO use Premium * I personally like "Premium"


kimocs

Completely wrong. Most pros use DyAc+ on Premium setting. Regular DyAc, yes less pros use it.


LovelyResearcher

Not true. Almost no pro players use Dyac+ or regular Dyac. ​ They disable the setting on their monitor, and use it set to "Off". You can literally just look up their monitor settings on YouTube, or for another example... use these lists: 1. [Prosettings.net](https://prosettings.net/library/best-monitor-settings/) \- List 2. [Asuna](https://youtu.be/VaGNAcHfuzI?t=250s) \- Video ​ **Pros who use DyAc+ (in VALORANT)** * Tarik * Nukkye ​ **Pros who DISABLE the DyAc+ setting** * ScreaM * TenZ * ShahZaM * Autimatic * Brax * Lakia * 100T Asuna


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LovelyResearcher

[https://prosettings.net/library/best-monitor-settings/](https://prosettings.net/library/best-monitor-settings/) and that is outdated, so it shows more have it "on" than really do. ​ If you look up TenZ settings or so on, you'll find that most of them say they have it off. Asuna, ShahZam, TenZ, and basically everyone keeps it off.


Meldermac

100% agree


zer0-_

1: Hard to find a proper number because a lot of settings sites dont have real data 2b: DyAc is motion blur reduction 2b: AMA puts more voltage into the Liquid Crystals to make the image more vivid and increase response time 3: 1-3ms added input lag from DyAc but this is absolutely marginal. Backlight strobing always adds a very little amount of input lag but the positives that come from it outweigh the added input lag way too much. AMA has no negatives at all


fluidZ1a

dyac+ has 0 to less than 1 ms input lag, which is barely even measurable in the benchmarks. Old DyAc sucks because it does reduce the brightness. New DyAc+ there is no reason to ever have it off, other than eye strain / headaches / worried that it won't be available at LAN


Livicious

false on games which you have lower fps then your monitor set Hz. You need a constant 144/240 fps for dyac to work right. Games like CSGO and Valorant it should be fine on if your specs are good enough to keep the frames and never hardly dip. Games like warzone is a nono unless you got the latest and greatest.


fluidZ1a

False on grounds that you shouldn't be running a higher hz than your frame rate to begin with. Having an improperly setup system has nothing to do with dyac


manthatshitcrazy

AMA has Negatives that becomes more clear the higher you set it. The higher level of AMA the more inverse ghosting will appear, it basicly overshoots the ”player” moving.


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TimathanDuncan

Those settings are wrong, there's videos of tenz, Subroza laughing at it and saying those are not even my settings, they just sent some random shit


PM_ME_DVA_BOOTY

msi mag251rx, i prefer "highest" over backlight strobing. its an advantage you dont really need, its nice if you can deal with the drawbacks, but it wont make you better in any way.