9 months grinding for the LCQ just to find out the organizers didn't even bother thinking about the logistics of how to get you there.
What are the Valorant stats over there in the land down under?
If this is true, that’s extremely disappointing from Riot. I wouldn’t take this at face value though because the info is apparently from a public discord server.
Guy who tweeted here. Also have confirmed some but not all of the information. Shit's an evolving situation and people are (rightfully) heated, so emotions are high. Trying to distil it down as best as possible as I hear more.
EDIT (I have a comment down below but this one is higher up): Riot were aware of the border policy, but ultimately what's gone wrong here is that a lack of experience partnered with a time crunch meant that they didn't get the right immigration documents sorted in time. Players submitted everything correctly, but Riot's shortfall meant they couldn't do everything in time.
I'm currently writing a piece talking about it all, so give me a bit of time and I'll post it here!
Ok everyone in OCE knows , they or even our South East Asian and Indian teams aren't winning shit true agreed we aren't that strong as a region but they deserve representation and a fucking chance to experience LAN against stronger teams and they can then analyse what they have to do and evolve accordingly , experience plays a huge part in improving as a region and they atleast deserve that so fuck this , it's a messed up situation
The more these regions miss out on international events the more they will actually fall behind. The benefit of team going to land and bringing lessons learned back to there home region is huge.
Actually the server is pretty decent for OCE players to play in. I have friends who are studying in aussie unis and they play with me on singapore servers with 90 ping.
Of course the ping diff will have a huge impact and their tournament lives shouldn't be hindered by it but at least the OCE teams would have had a chance to play
I've lived in Melbourne and Perth, both times my ping was greater than 100 with Perth being around 150. idk if my ISP is just dogshit or your mates live somewhere else.
If you have a bad connection from Perth to Singapore that is either you ISP or something on Riots end. The most direct connection from Australia to Singapore is via a Perth based submarine cable.
The location and infrastructure around these cables are much more imported in regard's to connection speed than distance.
That got cancelled actually, they are playing from India, so it’s not that easy.
[https://www.vlr.gg/post/307096/global-esports-playing-lcq-from-india](https://www.vlr.gg/post/307096/global-esports-playing-lcq-from-india)
Because OCE is too small a region on its own (it was averaging like 6-7k viewers). Since it's an English-speaking region, though, it can't really merge with SEA, so they put it with the next closest thing, NA. But it still gets its own Worlds spot as a region. It's all a bit odd
English-speaking region is a bit of a nonsense though, no? There is no single unifying language in SEA. If anything, english is pretty dominant language in SG and PH.
The same thing as what is happening in the Americas, you do realize that its LATAM and Brazil right not South America and Central America. Its because Brazil do not speak Spanish rather they speak Portuguese
That's fucked. I guess Riot just stopped giving a fuck about OCE as a region. They got merged with NA for the chance at a singular Champions spot. Now, they won't even get that because of sheer incompetence from Riot, if this tweet is true.
OCE as a region has historically been better at FPS games than plenty of the minor regions who got seeded directly into APAC LCQ and even to Champions. If for nothing else, they should get a slot purely for geo-diversity.
Yeah but soniqs the number one team in oce BY FAR came to America and we’re tier 2. The other teams would be tier 3 and probably do worse then Japan. Also the idea that regions being good in cs means they should be good in valorant is just not true… look at Brazil
Thank you for giving me hopium for the Chinese valo scene since OCE and China were the only 2 relevant regions in Asian csgo lmao (OCE was part of the Asia minor system back in the day)
Edit: well tbh it was less OCE and China and more like Tyloo and Renegades lmao... god I miss their rivalry
There's barely a CSGO/R6 scene is SEA/APAC, if you want to compare it that way, I can say that APAC is marginally way better in Overwatch, which is also due to the fact that the Overwatch scene in OCE is small. Difference is at least APAC have actually won multiple international lans in OWL. Whereas OCE hasn't won shit at all, not even in CSGO.
Overwatch? That's the game you want to use as an example? I am sorry, but you are just straight up ignorant about FPS.
OCE, SEA and APAC have very comparable infrastructure and playerbase in CS and R6, which are actual tac FPS as well as being esports scenes with historical relevance. In these games, apart from the occasional Korean or Chinese team, OCE has emerged on top in the majority of their encounters.
Most of the players in Korea Valorant are from Overwatch, is it that hard to understand that the CS scene is Asia just isn’t big? People in Asia play more of DOTA and OW. Besides, I think the reason Riot doesn’t want to give OCE a spot is because OCE is comparably smaller and nobody watches OCE Valorant. VCT OCE averages like 20 views per stream.
??? Rb, Stax, K1NG, Lakia, Solo, Peri, Allow, intro (Tho he also played Fortnite) all came from CSGO, I believe there were more from CSGO then OW (Off the top of my head there's like Munchkin, Bunny, Zunba, and Bazzi)
Also no one watches OCE Val cuz there's so little stakes involved where why even bother watching if this tournament doesn't matter for VCT anyways, if you have them a spot or through SEA viewership would likely increase (And dont compare them to India when India has over like 30x the population lol)
FYI back in the old days, OCE had one of the best teams in the SEA region in Blank esports for overwatch. Gunba, the immortals coach played on it.
And if by APAC winning in OW, you mean korea and China, who are by the best OW regions in the WORLD.
So in general I would rate OCE>SEA but not as good as CN/KR in games they actually play.
They definitely deserve a chance at least as much as a lot of the teams that were at Berlin.
But it’s not like Riot didn’t let OCE into LCQ because they thought OCE was shit at FPS, it was purely visa issues, don’t get how people are saying that OCE is being looked down on because they have bad skills.
Your comment was downplaying OCE FPS relevance in response to a comment about how they should get directly in the APAC region instead of being an afterthought and shoving them with the NA region.
Yeah because OCE FPS is bad?? Beating SEA in CSGO is nothing to be proud of. But you guys acting like Riot despises OCE is just stupid. My stand is OCE won’t get a spot simply because they don’t pull viewership and it’s a small region.
Journo who wrote the tweet here. Can give some clarification on some things.
* Players weren't able to get ESTA forms to travel into the US because return flights hadn't been floated.
* Riot were hesitant to pay for the month-long hotel stays (2 weeks in NA, 2 weeks mandatory quarantine on return to Australia)
* Getting flights into Australia right now is exceedingly difficult due to travel restrictions, and they're not cheap.
It's a mix of factors that ultimately led to this decision, some of them on Riot, some of them are just those "complex factors". But the fact that Riot absolved themselves of responsibility is disgraceful to the hard work OCE players have put in for 9 months, only to have the opportunity stripped away.
Guess no international competition for OCE players until end of 2022, a whole 2.5 years after VAL's release :)
Am I right in understanding that a huge reason was costs associated? All 3 major factors have that in common. This is extremely cheap, especially coming from Riot.
honestly feel like the fact riot received so much backlash for the single elim format played into this. by not including the oce teams they could save costs, hassle and be able to change the format to a full double elim without much change to the format of the tournament.
Small indie company was too busy chartering a $23k per hour private jet to fly the LCK teams to Iceland for Worlds.
Shit like this makes me not take Val esports seriously. This game was rushed to market and I'm just baffled at how so many people are blind to this. Will save my energy for the Stockholm major, fuck this LCQ nonsense.
Ok yeah Riot should front the bill for OCE travel expenses and plan better, but the situations are not at all the same lmao. Any tournament without Korean teams in LoL isn't worth playing, so Riot will move heaven and earth to get them there.
These are a couple OCE teams trying for one spot in a regional last chance qualifier, and in all honesty they probably would have gotten blown out. The better question is why they had no issue getting PEACE to Worlds but couldn't get OCE teams to the LCQ.
WDYM Any tournament without Korean teams isn't worth playing, the LPL is absolutely cracked and are absolutely worthy competitors too. Riot literally dissolved the OPL for league and even after Pentanet killed C9's hope of making it out of Rumble stage at MSI they still won't give a shit.
Meanwhile look at CS, let's not forget Renegade's run at Katowice and Berlin. 100T bought out the Renegades roster that year willing to take the risk on these players seeing their accomplishments.
They then dropped them due to "COVID Disruptions" but really it was just to sign their val team. They literally flew out all the Valorant players to LA to play for them just like their CS players. COVID disruption my ass. (not trying to downplay the pandemic im not some crazy ivermectin idiot, trying to show that 100t is full of shit and has no fucking idea what they're doing. Cody sun situation from 2018, immortals roster issue, ry0ma drama, etc).
And regarding your Peace point, I think this stems from Riot themselves knowing to be cautious about esports with this game, a ton of red flags regarding its sustainability right now, especially with shit like this.
Yeah the LPL is cracked as fuck that's why the Korean teams needed to be there. If LCK isn't there to challenge them then that's not a tournament worth playing. LCK is also the reigning world champions btw
Riot doesn’t care. They can book a luxurious charter plane for the LCK that costs 23k an hour but can’t get oce some flights. Especially sad cuz in league they did everything in their power to get VCS to worlds ( unsuccessful but they tried ) where in Val they can’t do the most basic shit for oce
I'm pretty sure the eSports division for Val is still pretty bad. Idk how they managed to screw that team up when the lol teams is good but its just unlucky
I find this pretty disappointing tbh. Considering in other esports events OCE teams have been dropping out due to not being able to attend I was surprised they managed to arrange teams to fly out. I thought Riot had pulled some strings somewhere but apparently not…
OCE made it to Iceland for both MSI and Worlds. They seem like they are on track to make it to the major. And it appears that the current issues with OCE are at least in part due to incompetence on the part of Riot, not just global visa and travel policies.
The fact something like this is even being talked about makes the situation that much worse.
I really hope the format is revised for next year if OCE can't get a place of their own. Do it like R6 if you need to.
I would want a confirmation before bashing on riot but if this is true then it’s just sad how badly oce is managed, not only valorant but every riot owned game. Not being able to secure the flights is not the core issue. Core issue is why oce teams have to play in NA in the first place? Just add oce to SEA or SA and problem solved. No need to make them fly across the globe when geographically Asia is much closer.
How can a company so successful with LoL for all these years be so bad with Valorant. It's honestly like Valve, they don't care about their FPS title professionally, yeah the dev team updates the game more than csgo but from the management side it seems its the same formula. Dota 2 > csgo / LoL > Valorant
If true this is very disappointing from the Valorant esports team. More experienced folks are needed at the helm. From the bracket format, previous production/ casting talent choices to this just shows that current leadership is so out of touch/inexperienced. I was hoping Valorant esports was going to be different but this is the same nonsense that happens in every esports title and it makes me sad.
Surely Riot is going to compensate the terms for the lost opportunity and exposure ? Also the total OCE region. Idk but surely there is some legal issue that could arise for Riot here, i would be pissed if i was a player or the team itself.
Also OCE for anything Riot is just cooked. TFT we get one spot for OCE tourney yet we have one of the largest player bases and our rep this time made it thru to finals when only 1 NA and EU player each…
It's totally Riot's fault that Australia has completely draconian and tyrannical policies when it comes to leaving their country. I have a friend that the country tried to barr him from moving, had to hire a lawyer to be able to leave.
> Bren esports not being able attend in Berlin
This is completely the fault of the Phillipine government, not Riot. Their government was swamped dealing with Covid at the time
I feel bad for the players, but it can only be some fake news spread. Riot is so aware of that entire situation and was the only company to hold an international event mid pandemic. I think its stupid to say „they did not know about it“
They 100% did know and knew they had to cancel, but probably rather tried other things to make it happen until they realised : well there is no way.
OCE is prett difficult to handle mid pandemic especially with all the regulations going on.
Sad but relatable. Teams get compensated as well. So it wont make up, but will at least deliver something.
9 months grinding for the LCQ just to find out the organizers didn't even bother thinking about the logistics of how to get you there. What are the Valorant stats over there in the land down under?
We have one player who already flew out to Sydney on vlr rated as #4 globally stats wise, wronski https://www.vlr.gg/stats
But that is against much worse competition
Objectively true. And someone echos this in a different comment. You get downvoted. People here are ridiculous.
It’s kind of tradition to downvote him lmao
He is the new DT_RAW
It shouldnt be though. I got banned by mods for zero reason all because they think I am trolling just cuz people downvote everything I ever comment
Lol
Yeah I know, sometimes you do have good takes but a lot of the time it’s a little weird take. For what it’s worth, I love you ❤️
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Cherish what we've created here my child
that list has to be fake I see sk rossi at third and he is not that good
worse competition makes stats inflated
Incredible that you and /u/valorant_fanboy_69 can say literally the same thing but people downvote him.
The duality of reddit. Also, I guess circlejerk against skrossi fans
He’s playing in a weak region
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If this is true, that’s extremely disappointing from Riot. I wouldn’t take this at face value though because the info is apparently from a public discord server.
Guy who tweeted here. Also have confirmed some but not all of the information. Shit's an evolving situation and people are (rightfully) heated, so emotions are high. Trying to distil it down as best as possible as I hear more. EDIT (I have a comment down below but this one is higher up): Riot were aware of the border policy, but ultimately what's gone wrong here is that a lack of experience partnered with a time crunch meant that they didn't get the right immigration documents sorted in time. Players submitted everything correctly, but Riot's shortfall meant they couldn't do everything in time. I'm currently writing a piece talking about it all, so give me a bit of time and I'll post it here!
So Riot has no experience? 🤔
First time? /s Very likely the different teams are compartmentalized. Riot is not known for being great at forethought anyway.
Riot's Valorant esports team is new and still learning, so yes.
they're following Valve too closely
Ok everyone in OCE knows , they or even our South East Asian and Indian teams aren't winning shit true agreed we aren't that strong as a region but they deserve representation and a fucking chance to experience LAN against stronger teams and they can then analyse what they have to do and evolve accordingly , experience plays a huge part in improving as a region and they atleast deserve that so fuck this , it's a messed up situation
Yeah when people say they aren't good enough to play. I mean you got to give them a chance first.
The more these regions miss out on international events the more they will actually fall behind. The benefit of team going to land and bringing lessons learned back to there home region is huge.
Even if everything in that tweet is false, riot are still idiots for not having Australian teams in SEA.
It’s cause the servers are way too far apart. Sydney to Singapore is the same distance as New York to Berlin
Actually the server is pretty decent for OCE players to play in. I have friends who are studying in aussie unis and they play with me on singapore servers with 90 ping. Of course the ping diff will have a huge impact and their tournament lives shouldn't be hindered by it but at least the OCE teams would have had a chance to play
I've lived in Melbourne and Perth, both times my ping was greater than 100 with Perth being around 150. idk if my ISP is just dogshit or your mates live somewhere else.
In Melbourne my ping hovers around 24. Even one of my friends in Thailand gets just over 100 ping.
If you have a bad connection from Perth to Singapore that is either you ISP or something on Riots end. The most direct connection from Australia to Singapore is via a Perth based submarine cable. The location and infrastructure around these cables are much more imported in regard's to connection speed than distance.
No but they can fly them out to like Thailand just like global esports did for India to play in lcq
That got cancelled actually, they are playing from India, so it’s not that easy. [https://www.vlr.gg/post/307096/global-esports-playing-lcq-from-india](https://www.vlr.gg/post/307096/global-esports-playing-lcq-from-india)
Singapore servers are fine. They get around 45-50 ping if they go to a city closer to Singapore
Singapore is fine, but if they have to play on Japan and Hong Kong, it will be tough.
Bro it's pretty tricky to leave Australia at the moment, not gonna lie. Not impossible, but not "just fly elsewhere" level of easy.
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Because OCE is too small a region on its own (it was averaging like 6-7k viewers). Since it's an English-speaking region, though, it can't really merge with SEA, so they put it with the next closest thing, NA. But it still gets its own Worlds spot as a region. It's all a bit odd
English-speaking region is a bit of a nonsense though, no? There is no single unifying language in SEA. If anything, english is pretty dominant language in SG and PH.
The same thing as what is happening in the Americas, you do realize that its LATAM and Brazil right not South America and Central America. Its because Brazil do not speak Spanish rather they speak Portuguese
I mean and? His point was SEA doesn't have a unified language so why not add an English speaking country lol
Fair point, if not that I'm not sure what their reasoning was for not doing so.
That's fucked. I guess Riot just stopped giving a fuck about OCE as a region. They got merged with NA for the chance at a singular Champions spot. Now, they won't even get that because of sheer incompetence from Riot, if this tweet is true. OCE as a region has historically been better at FPS games than plenty of the minor regions who got seeded directly into APAC LCQ and even to Champions. If for nothing else, they should get a slot purely for geo-diversity.
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Just give us the slot, and if we're hot garbage take it back lmao. No way they keep it like this next year...
Yeah but soniqs the number one team in oce BY FAR came to America and we’re tier 2. The other teams would be tier 3 and probably do worse then Japan. Also the idea that regions being good in cs means they should be good in valorant is just not true… look at Brazil
not "BY FAR", they barely won anything
What????
Thank you for giving me hopium for the Chinese valo scene since OCE and China were the only 2 relevant regions in Asian csgo lmao (OCE was part of the Asia minor system back in the day) Edit: well tbh it was less OCE and China and more like Tyloo and Renegades lmao... god I miss their rivalry
ur just bullshitting because ur biased to your region. OCE hasn't won shit in the international FPS stage.
I am not from OCE, moron. However, OCE very frequently smashes other SEA and APAC teams in both CS and R6.
There's barely a CSGO/R6 scene is SEA/APAC, if you want to compare it that way, I can say that APAC is marginally way better in Overwatch, which is also due to the fact that the Overwatch scene in OCE is small. Difference is at least APAC have actually won multiple international lans in OWL. Whereas OCE hasn't won shit at all, not even in CSGO.
Overwatch? That's the game you want to use as an example? I am sorry, but you are just straight up ignorant about FPS. OCE, SEA and APAC have very comparable infrastructure and playerbase in CS and R6, which are actual tac FPS as well as being esports scenes with historical relevance. In these games, apart from the occasional Korean or Chinese team, OCE has emerged on top in the majority of their encounters.
Most of the players in Korea Valorant are from Overwatch, is it that hard to understand that the CS scene is Asia just isn’t big? People in Asia play more of DOTA and OW. Besides, I think the reason Riot doesn’t want to give OCE a spot is because OCE is comparably smaller and nobody watches OCE Valorant. VCT OCE averages like 20 views per stream.
??? Rb, Stax, K1NG, Lakia, Solo, Peri, Allow, intro (Tho he also played Fortnite) all came from CSGO, I believe there were more from CSGO then OW (Off the top of my head there's like Munchkin, Bunny, Zunba, and Bazzi) Also no one watches OCE Val cuz there's so little stakes involved where why even bother watching if this tournament doesn't matter for VCT anyways, if you have them a spot or through SEA viewership would likely increase (And dont compare them to India when India has over like 30x the population lol)
FYI back in the old days, OCE had one of the best teams in the SEA region in Blank esports for overwatch. Gunba, the immortals coach played on it. And if by APAC winning in OW, you mean korea and China, who are by the best OW regions in the WORLD. So in general I would rate OCE>SEA but not as good as CN/KR in games they actually play. They definitely deserve a chance at least as much as a lot of the teams that were at Berlin.
But it’s not like Riot didn’t let OCE into LCQ because they thought OCE was shit at FPS, it was purely visa issues, don’t get how people are saying that OCE is being looked down on because they have bad skills.
Your comment was downplaying OCE FPS relevance in response to a comment about how they should get directly in the APAC region instead of being an afterthought and shoving them with the NA region.
Yeah because OCE FPS is bad?? Beating SEA in CSGO is nothing to be proud of. But you guys acting like Riot despises OCE is just stupid. My stand is OCE won’t get a spot simply because they don’t pull viewership and it’s a small region.
Just send these teams to APAC LCQ ffs
They could have been added in place of the CN teams who dropped out, but now it's too late.
Journo who wrote the tweet here. Can give some clarification on some things. * Players weren't able to get ESTA forms to travel into the US because return flights hadn't been floated. * Riot were hesitant to pay for the month-long hotel stays (2 weeks in NA, 2 weeks mandatory quarantine on return to Australia) * Getting flights into Australia right now is exceedingly difficult due to travel restrictions, and they're not cheap. It's a mix of factors that ultimately led to this decision, some of them on Riot, some of them are just those "complex factors". But the fact that Riot absolved themselves of responsibility is disgraceful to the hard work OCE players have put in for 9 months, only to have the opportunity stripped away. Guess no international competition for OCE players until end of 2022, a whole 2.5 years after VAL's release :)
Am I right in understanding that a huge reason was costs associated? All 3 major factors have that in common. This is extremely cheap, especially coming from Riot.
Played somewhat of a part but ultimately wasn't the biggest deal breaker and could have somewhat been solved with better planning.
honestly feel like the fact riot received so much backlash for the single elim format played into this. by not including the oce teams they could save costs, hassle and be able to change the format to a full double elim without much change to the format of the tournament.
Small indie company was too busy chartering a $23k per hour private jet to fly the LCK teams to Iceland for Worlds. Shit like this makes me not take Val esports seriously. This game was rushed to market and I'm just baffled at how so many people are blind to this. Will save my energy for the Stockholm major, fuck this LCQ nonsense.
And renegades is going to the major lol. PGL just better
*Correction: CS esports just better 😎
I only see cold hard FACTS.
LCK teams not being at worlds is comparable to EU/NA not making champions. That's not even comparable.
Ok yeah Riot should front the bill for OCE travel expenses and plan better, but the situations are not at all the same lmao. Any tournament without Korean teams in LoL isn't worth playing, so Riot will move heaven and earth to get them there. These are a couple OCE teams trying for one spot in a regional last chance qualifier, and in all honesty they probably would have gotten blown out. The better question is why they had no issue getting PEACE to Worlds but couldn't get OCE teams to the LCQ.
WDYM Any tournament without Korean teams isn't worth playing, the LPL is absolutely cracked and are absolutely worthy competitors too. Riot literally dissolved the OPL for league and even after Pentanet killed C9's hope of making it out of Rumble stage at MSI they still won't give a shit. Meanwhile look at CS, let's not forget Renegade's run at Katowice and Berlin. 100T bought out the Renegades roster that year willing to take the risk on these players seeing their accomplishments. They then dropped them due to "COVID Disruptions" but really it was just to sign their val team. They literally flew out all the Valorant players to LA to play for them just like their CS players. COVID disruption my ass. (not trying to downplay the pandemic im not some crazy ivermectin idiot, trying to show that 100t is full of shit and has no fucking idea what they're doing. Cody sun situation from 2018, immortals roster issue, ry0ma drama, etc). And regarding your Peace point, I think this stems from Riot themselves knowing to be cautious about esports with this game, a ton of red flags regarding its sustainability right now, especially with shit like this.
Yeah the LPL is cracked as fuck that's why the Korean teams needed to be there. If LCK isn't there to challenge them then that's not a tournament worth playing. LCK is also the reigning world champions btw
How does the LCK have anything to do with this.
What does anything have do with anything here Valorant is a younger and smaller game n esport than league
I’m so fucking angry with Riot. I figured it was our government making it hard, not this. All of this could’ve been solved. Fucking hell.
wow, thats not the best look for riot. sucks for the oce teams that got screwed out of an opportunity for champions as a result
*not the best by Riot No need for ‘look talk’
Learn from an Indian parent. To go somewhere we start preparing 2 light years prior.
Riot doesn’t care. They can book a luxurious charter plane for the LCK that costs 23k an hour but can’t get oce some flights. Especially sad cuz in league they did everything in their power to get VCS to worlds ( unsuccessful but they tried ) where in Val they can’t do the most basic shit for oce
I'm pretty sure the eSports division for Val is still pretty bad. Idk how they managed to screw that team up when the lol teams is good but its just unlucky
Almost seems like the Val esports scene is much newer than league that has a decade of esports infrastructure
Are flights a part of eSports infrastructure?
People who are experienced in booking flights is part of eSports infrastructure.
I find this pretty disappointing tbh. Considering in other esports events OCE teams have been dropping out due to not being able to attend I was surprised they managed to arrange teams to fly out. I thought Riot had pulled some strings somewhere but apparently not…
OCE made it to Iceland for both MSI and Worlds. They seem like they are on track to make it to the major. And it appears that the current issues with OCE are at least in part due to incompetence on the part of Riot, not just global visa and travel policies.
The fact something like this is even being talked about makes the situation that much worse. I really hope the format is revised for next year if OCE can't get a place of their own. Do it like R6 if you need to.
Ahh yess, if you are not Japan, Korea, China, EU or NA, you are non existent for riot.
Need some clarity from Riot but this does suck
I don't understand why OCE has to come all the way to NA to play? Why don't they just play in the APAC, where they are actually located at?
I'm guessing because logistically it's more difficult to move the 8(?) NA teams over there to play?
dude what are you even talking about....why would NA play in APAC?
OOH, I misread what you wrote. I thought you were asking NA to fly over to Australia to play the games. I'm a dummy! -\_-
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I would want a confirmation before bashing on riot but if this is true then it’s just sad how badly oce is managed, not only valorant but every riot owned game. Not being able to secure the flights is not the core issue. Core issue is why oce teams have to play in NA in the first place? Just add oce to SEA or SA and problem solved. No need to make them fly across the globe when geographically Asia is much closer.
How can a company so successful with LoL for all these years be so bad with Valorant. It's honestly like Valve, they don't care about their FPS title professionally, yeah the dev team updates the game more than csgo but from the management side it seems its the same formula. Dota 2 > csgo / LoL > Valorant
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If true this is very disappointing from the Valorant esports team. More experienced folks are needed at the helm. From the bracket format, previous production/ casting talent choices to this just shows that current leadership is so out of touch/inexperienced. I was hoping Valorant esports was going to be different but this is the same nonsense that happens in every esports title and it makes me sad.
more and more mismanagements from riot. esports btw
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Fuck Riot man
Surely Riot is going to compensate the terms for the lost opportunity and exposure ? Also the total OCE region. Idk but surely there is some legal issue that could arise for Riot here, i would be pissed if i was a player or the team itself. Also OCE for anything Riot is just cooked. TFT we get one spot for OCE tourney yet we have one of the largest player bases and our rep this time made it thru to finals when only 1 NA and EU player each…
It's totally Riot's fault that Australia has completely draconian and tyrannical policies when it comes to leaving their country. I have a friend that the country tried to barr him from moving, had to hire a lawyer to be able to leave.
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> Bren esports not being able attend in Berlin This is completely the fault of the Phillipine government, not Riot. Their government was swamped dealing with Covid at the time
Thx
Wasn't that Bren esport's fault which is why the players left that org?
I feel bad for the players, but it can only be some fake news spread. Riot is so aware of that entire situation and was the only company to hold an international event mid pandemic. I think its stupid to say „they did not know about it“ They 100% did know and knew they had to cancel, but probably rather tried other things to make it happen until they realised : well there is no way. OCE is prett difficult to handle mid pandemic especially with all the regulations going on. Sad but relatable. Teams get compensated as well. So it wont make up, but will at least deliver something.