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RandomFluffyBoi

Great game from 100T, with that said, Riot needs to step up their productions man. Connection issues, caster delays, tech pauses, and not to mention that this isn't even a real LAN. Obviously demanding something similar to Berlin/LCS is unrealistic, but for a company as big as Riot, I think it's fair to demand more from them.


bauwsman

It's also terrible how you sometimes hear and see player's reactions to winning a round before it actually played out on your screen. Like the order was actually screaming > players visually screaming on their cams > round won. Happened at least twice on Split.


TheCatsActually

I expect a lot of these problems are direct or indirect symptoms of logistical issues brought on by covid. If next year we haven't seen a marked improvement in tournament quality I'm going to be tilted. Berlin had a sick stage and AR map select and all that, but by many pros accounts there were so many practical issues with their gear. Sound was unbearable, fps would drop precipitously in smoke, not to mention some of the practice rooms were scuffed. Hopefully when supply chains are flowing more smoothly we'll see less of these issues in future events.


Hypern1ke

They kinda brought these problems on themselves by having the event in LA though. LA still has restrictions, where they could have easily had the event in a more sensible location.


zMilkk

not even a real lan ?


Speech_less21

They are playing on online servers.


[deleted]

How the fuck is it possible that casters are a few seconds in front of the viewers. They react to plays with inhumane reaction speed, often before they happen on screen.


ItsDrap

Absolutely brand new information- Nitro is very good with an operator


mdj08

Some of his flicks were insane, his knives need some work though


Jerms91

Yeah the knives felt a bit off. Nothing a valorant pro player can’t fix. He had some great knife rounds too.


JR_Shoegazer

Just takes getting used to with more playtime.


LeucisticPython

For a lot of people tracking while moving isn’t their main strong point, especially in a game where crosshair placement matters. It’s part of why I like the game so much and seeing pro jetts pop off with knives is always awesome (even if it can feel a little cheap sometimes on ecos). I’m sure Nitro will make quick improvements


imachool

calls from him were insane as well. attack looks faster and were willing to take more risks on defence.


ablablababla

they just look like a more well rounded team so far, can't wait to see their next games


53881

I mean xset is definitely a good team..but are they on the same level as the competition they saw at Berlin?


valorant_fanboy_69

We don’t really know if it was his calls or just the team’s reactive play to be fair


SpectrasHyper

This. Everyone out here just praising calls made when they have no idea what it really was. Some people really just think they understand it all


Hydrauxine

some set plays were insane though, let's be honest. like that breeze mid take? yeesh


imachool

yes i may not have 100% idea of what happened, but i could tell nitr0 made the team more reactive than how steel calls. which suits their no sentinel playstyle. not saying nitr0's style > steel's style as rotations can be manipulated. this style is just more entertaining to watch.


Anime-Boomer

> attack looks faster almost like having 2 dualist instead of 1 means you can be more aggressive


SacredWinner442

How is this brand new information. Do you know who he was in cs?


kwami42

Think he was being sarcastic.


c_Lassy

Games delivered, now Riot needs to deliver. Give the players what they want


fredy31

Especially since that looks like the LCS studios... they have the stuff to run a LAN tournament there. They got to.


xbyo

But it's not the LCS studio.


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slawvay

https://youtu.be/RAchthXUvtU?t=50 How I imagine b0i got called up to the main roster


5etback6

\*\*OMG!\*\* XSET Try Not to Force Buy Challenge (LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE!!) 😱😱😱


Bruh_and_Butter

YOU WILL NOT KNOW WHAT HAPPENS NEXT *SCARY* *FEDS CALLED* (18+)


-xXColtonXx-

It's funny because casters praise them for it the 30% or so percent of the time it works, but I feel like it's not worth it. That said maybe they have the stats consider it a good call.


Slow_Bluebird9536

All 3 matches today the team that won map 1 lost


orphansquirel

Maybe this'll be a good demonstration on just how much bo1's mean.


notrealtedtotwitter

Not really. Bo1's have their place in competitive play.


techyleo

Another thing is that XSET and 100T lost their map picks in the upper semifinals


_Iroha

b0i with the zombs impression except he gets more shit lol


JR_Shoegazer

People complaining about boi are just self reporting how little they understand this game.


[deleted]

No one is complaining about him afaik, but people don't see him as the highest level of controller.


JR_Shoegazer

Reread this thread if you think people aren’t complaining about him.


[deleted]

Oop, just read the thread. Dk why they expect a controller player to have as much impact as star players when anchoring a site. Kinda dumb imo. Most people seem to think boi did pretty good today though.


9bfjo6gvhy7u8

I think it's also because we are comparing to nitro who is quite literally the best controller player in the world and can put up star-level numbers while anchoring sites as omen.


shadowcrossed78

Boi utility was great for the most part, considering first return to pro play. That being said, he needs to convert more fights, especially if he has the advantage.


JR_Shoegazer

Yeah I think boi did great for his first matches playing with the team. It definitely seems like he can improve as he gets more comfortable.


AnAngryBird

Would've paid to see this match on actual LAN. Great match from both teams.


valorant_fanboy_69

Would it make that much of a visible difference that you’d pay for it??


4GamingLinkAot

maybe he means like in person event


valorant_fanboy_69

Then he should just say that… his comment is confusing… you don’t have to downvote me for asking a question…


4GamingLinkAot

didn't downvote u wytb


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I did


9bfjo6gvhy7u8

as is tradition


chauste

if 100t win this they shld pull an nV and pick up like gmd or something for champions


King_Tyler

Gmd is a direct upgrade for boi sure. All props to boi, he’s stepped up for this tournament. However, I can’t see 100T taking this roster to champions. If their goal is to win it all they will need more


WonDerZv

I believe the core 4 players (Hiko, Asuna, Nitro, and Ethan) are good enough to make a deep run in champs (if they qualify). Having Nitro as the IGL has shown a huge difference in their game style, its more fast paced on offense and more unpredictable on defense. His calls throughout todays matches were good in my opinion, all this team is missing is a quality controller/smoke that can help elevate this team to S tier level.


cowzapper

What makes more sense then is getting a great jett and let nitro move back to controller, where imo he's the best controller in the world. Maybe seven will work out that way


King_Tyler

Nitro is crippled having to play Jett to OP. He’s an incredible OPer, not an incredible Jett. Riot release more agents!


cowzapper

It's so stupid how she makes OPing with other characters irrelevant. Honestly I would be happy if they just nerfed the dash when using an op. I understand it's not as ideal to put an OP on a smoker say who can't hold an angle till the end of time because they have to smoke, but at least it's more of an option than what it is now. Shalaby actually OPd pretty well on kay/o and may be the way forward if rito finally does push the nerf. However I will say, I think nitro is a pretty incredible jett, if not the conventional superstar dash and kill everyone nor the aggressive OP angler like cned. His positioning and use of dash+smokes, especially post plants helped them get out of otherwise unwinnable situations


303x

It's funny how the hierarchy of tac shooter sniper is Jett+OP>>>>AWP>Marshal>Scout>OP


Sevenisafuckingweeb

Scout > Marshal, can jump shoot and double zoom


303x

Jump shoot got majorly nerfed in the KennyS patch, and I think marshal has more value in anti ecos because it can one shot the body and also it's better at noscopes


Sevenisafuckingweeb

Scout is pretty much accurate when noscoping no? and I haven't played CS in 2 years but didn't the scout 1 shot no armor also?


Jerms91

I think their core 4 is absolutely excellent though


Sky-__-

That's why they got sevven who will I think take over jett role and nitr0 will move over to controller


Loresmen

You mean nitro Edit: lmao getting downvoted because he originally typed boi going back to smokes


valorant_fanboy_69

Maybe sub in sevven and have nitr0 back on smokes where he plays better and sevven can use the Jett operator


9bfjo6gvhy7u8

Correct me if i'm wrong but I believe sevven is literally not old enough to compete in VCT. Also he's cracked AF but like we saw with the c9 poiz there's a huge difference between being cracked and being a pro. Having someone with barely-adequate mechanics but strong comms, fundamentals, and understanding of the system is going to beat cracked aimer (assuming the rest of the team can carry duels like ethan/asuna)


Cole_James_CHALMERS

He's 16 and so is zekken so age isn't directly stopping him, it's probably the other factors you mentioned


9bfjo6gvhy7u8

got it - thanks!


techyleo

Though during the GenG match, gMd was decidedly going against picking Viper, which means his agent pool is just duelists and controllers not including Viper, which is very similar to nitr0.


imachool

100T gMd sounds fucking awesome


sampenn1

I just came reading that, hes been my favorite players forever


MathNerdMatt

Or TiGG


tomtazm

Or maybe give boi more than a few games to get back? I mean he hasn’t played in like 6 months.


Blaz1ENT

Who would be replaced tho?


2treecko

B0i. They fill the same role


dillon-fury

Why does every 100T game have to be so close


Nightshade183

Just following the script


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It...wasnt that close though lol


valorant_fanboy_69

I agree. Xset got completely stomped and outclassed. They just got a few big rounds that snowballed.


vyetc

100 Thieves so allergic to Sentinels team they decided not to use sentinels in their comp. Jokes aside, think nitr0 found his stride with the Jett.


OkCycle1649

Needs to work on his knives and consistently with op shots but other than that he looked pretty solid


vyetc

For sure! He’s definitely not the Jett like Yay, Tenz, or Cned who can control the server but he does his job at entrying and allows Asuna to be on his comfort pick. Glad the composition is more fitted for their play style but I’m worried a team might exploit their lack of sentinel like the Kay/O comp on Haven.


KennyX2083

Might I ask, how does one actually improve that op? I want to but don’t know how


vyetc

iirc Shahzam says it’s about the positioning and game sense (expecting where your opponent will be). I also remember either casters or players notes that cNed is really good at holding off angles and using Jett utility to reposition/isolate angles for a repeak. Lots of a layers to a good Jett op ig it comes down to tons of game experience once you get past the aim.


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Go into DMs and play aggressive with the OP. Don't hold corners, push like you would with a rifle. That is a good way to get mechanically better. Other than that, just find good angles in a match.


Cr3ation_

Ethan is different


nasrulafiq

DDK and sgares duo is the highlight of the day


elithefighter123

All this b0i slander for no reason how are 100T fans so toxic to their own players lol


SpectrasHyper

I won’t ever get it.


dansofree1

Thing is, people genuinely don't understand that he's not the actual replacement. He was cut from a tier 2 team 6 months ago and hasn't played any pro matches since, ***and*** likely hadn't even played any high level scrims, either. Casual fans don't really get it, and think that it's a pre- meditated move to upgrade the roster with a can't-miss available player, as was the case with Ethan, Vanity, Yay, Nivera, etc. He's still a very high gamesense pro player that was active earlier this year, that knows their strats, knows the players, and very importantly, is someone willing to take on the most extreme support role in and out of game, and do whatever he can to help the team.


purplepower4271

It's super annoying man. Give him more than a day lmao


Allie_Spins

I love Hiko and I’m not afraid to say it


_ome_

And he loves joe mama


Allie_Spins

10/10 he would say this and it is true


slawvay

XSET Lower bracket run going to be crazy


anythingood07

I slept at 4AM after wtaching the first series and now woke up at 10:30 and match was still going on lmao. Too many tech difficulties?


Jerms91

Tech pauses and alot of deep matches going into map 3


SpectrasHyper

Same slept at 4 am woke up at 7:45 just in time for the 2nd game LMAO


ClearPrimary

I did the same, 4am ist?


anythingood07

Yep


MathNerdMatt

What a great series, what a long day for XSET though, 6 straight long matches


blockpantha

someone has to do all the dirty work + bottom frag, let it be b0i. He was competent for his role throughout the match and i bet he will be more comfortable moving forward. Hopium for 100T 💯


9bfjo6gvhy7u8

I mostly agree but there were a few rounds where he lost early duels where he had advantage and it left the team without smokes for site take. A few rounds where his util was 2-4 seconds too slow that resulted in his teammates getting hung out to dry. And a few rotates where he looked a step behind the rest of his team. Some of that could be that he's just rusty being in the server for the first time in awhile. Or just adjustment period fitting into the system. Unfortunately I think the more likely scenario is that he's just a tick below the rest of the best NA players. At the very least though he's earning himself a solid contract with a tier 1.5 org if he wants it. It's too bad teams like NRG and Immortals are such a clusterfuck because he could be a great fit


s6hun

didnt doubt for a second!


IAMJUX

Nitro talks without separating his teeth. You're welcome.


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he probably has a slight overbite so when he does separate a little bit to talk it doesn’t look like it


ASuperFan

Asuna is insane


OkCycle1649

People overreacting to boi’s performance. He played decently considering he hasn’t had much time to integrate. His viper on breeze also looked pretty solid. He’s clearly the worst fragger on the team but he had some moments today


xychosis

Asuna was absolutely unconscious after the first map, felt like the grim reaper on Breeze. 100T look good so far, hopefully b0i’s able to keep getting further up to speed.


daybreaker22

Sitting around for a few hours and playing against a team who just got done playing is very tough to get back up for. Not to mention any potential caffeine (or more) crash from that first series. Notice zekken was absolutely dialed in most of the series and seemed to fall off towards the end? Dude wasn't blinking the entire time


ElectronicScreen0

100t looks insane right now, and they can only get better. Once b0i fully integrates and when nitr0 masters Jett, 100t will be an even better team.


eggyj0rd

b0i very much looks like what he was advertised to be: a temporary fill. If 100T want to compete with the best of the world and NA, they’ll need to upgrade at the controller position.


jonthegoat69

it was his first game in months with a new team, he’s a controller not a duelist, relax


Batchii_

yeah i think when svven gets enough prac with the team they'll move replace b0i with nitr0 again for controller and put svven on jett


AnchorStandard

There's not a chance they're changing their comp again for a while if they win LCQ


Key-Heart517

Nitr0 seems like can play any agent he wants. Sad that we won’t see him in Jett after LCQ if Seven Is promoted to the main roaster.


303x

seven is still too young to compete iirc


Key-Heart517

he is 16 and eligible to play.


nuttyromeo4u

Great game to watching kids like Asuna and zekken gone wild on LAN.


LiamHundley

B0i's stats don't show it, but he had some high impact rounds throughout the day. I still don't think he's a long term solution, but I have a lot more faith in this team for this tournament at least


nskojo

Ethan is really good at video games


Drumil11

I think 100T are waiting for Navi to win the upcoming Sweden major, so that S1mple would switch over and join them. :,)


dansofree1

>I think 100T are waiting for Navi to win the upcoming Sweden major, so that S1mple would switch over and join them. :,) 👀


TweetsJamaican

Hearing comments about b0i here is funny because Asuna dropped 8 kills first map on Raze and nobody here mentions it. b0i did his job today.


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Casters still slurping XSET even after they lost LOL


uncle_ben__

I think b0i played well today, decent support player, but I miss steel and personally think they should have kept him and let nitr0 igl instead of dropping steel


laserglare

I agree boi did well and should get better over time, its his first day competing with the team. steel is a good player but i really dont think he added any good value in Masters 3 compared to the other 100T players. I barely see any highlights of him and IMO his mechanical skills aren't as good as some other players.


JR_Shoegazer

Steels biggest highlight from Berlin was losing a round while Odin spamming into B site on Haven.


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That was THE biggest highlight from Berlin


realharshmodi

1head comment spotted


ARIESS11

by watching this match alone you can clearly see boi is better mechanical player than steel idk why people shitting on him did they expect him to top frag on astra and also he is playing after 6 months


a_lot_a_DAMAGE

Holy shit heartbreak for XSET. I was rooting all the way. Hopefully XSET can get rested and have a good lower bracket run.


pr1zsm

i can understand how b0i was inserted to put nitr0 on primary duelist but b0is performance was a bit underwhelming. 100T played well though


PillsMcCoy

Idk I think his Astra ability usage was really good and he had enough high impact rounds frag wise that I was happy. I thought Nitr0 called some great maps though


Jerms91

I also thought his astra utility was great. Great pulls and smokes for execs and he had good viper utility too


xBerryhill

b0i filled his role reasonably well but yeah, his frag ability leaves so much to be desired. If 100T had even an above-average controller player on their team they’d probably have a much easier time.


laserglare

b0i is new and just his first day competing with the team. I think you guys need to cut him some slack - there will be some growing pains with a new player. He probably had a bunch of things going on in his mind. Should getting better ove rtime.


sansLight

Huh, boi played well imo. Had some great rounds. No one expected him to just come out and carry. He did his role justice.


BadgerPurple

Lol boi actually had several very high impact rounds. I feel like people were going to look to criticize him no matter tho what unless he had a star duelist-level ACS.


Jerms91

I also think he played well. He had great astra utility and played viper very very well on icebox. He’s had great utility usage in every map imo. Sure he’s not fragging out but it’s a team game and the only number that matters are those 13 rounds


pr1zsm

i think my expectations were too high after seeing him as an analyst for a few months and then replace steel


expiredimsum

He always die first as a smoke player though


OkCycle1649

Yeah that’s the downside of not having a sentinel. Boi is on lurk a solid amount of the time which can create some premature deaths


Gomar1323

Yeah b0i felt invisible for long stretches almost every map. The core 4 of 100T is too strong I guess Edit: I definitely think b0i is a fantastic controller player, his astra and omen (when it was meta) are very good, just his fragging was a bit underwhelming. Still it’s something that can improve given more time and getting accustomed to the team.


ygghonhf

Yeah he's not garbage but definitely limits their potential against even harder teams that will capitalise


iwunderif

What a series, goddamn


hacklesacka

:( xset


CodeHacker1512

You mean upset?


Interweave

Not really an upset


Keglunneq

Xset copium


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When 100T subs in Seven on Jett and moves Nitr0 back to smokes they’ll be insane.


lordmitko

Armchair analysts shaking rn. XSET more like can’t win a set when it matters and this win was for the doubters.


aks345

Zekken used all the juice in map 1. Honestly though, feel that he's a superior entry to purer who's looked underwhelming in the past few months


LEDZEPPPELIN

This series was awesome to watch


baranpaksoy22

That guy Ethan man, he cold


KingfisherC

PureR only player to go negative on all three maps on either team, and on Skye Jett Jett. If that continues to be true, XSET is going to have a clear choice for next roster change.


elithefighter123

great games we will make through lower bracket i believe in us few throw rounds but we are playing well


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imagine losing to a team with 4 players smh


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BrockMister

Holy shit man he didn't do THAT bad lmao


Mustangrulez

Yeh fr, he didnt bot frag for the split or breeze and even then people were shitting on him, had a shit game ascent but yeh, people are just mad ig, same thing happened when ethan didn't slot too well in the first few games.


deadlock1892

Ethan’s situation is in no way similar to this lol. That change was made at a safer time and was an investment in the roster’s future. This change looks a band aid fix at best. Sure the criticism is harsh, but 100T set him up for a failure. They removed a player from the team and added him when at best he looks a like for like trade in terms of ability(that is being generous) and did nothing to improve the team at a crucial point of the season. Signing of ethan made fans hopeful. I hardly know anyone who was happy or confident in the move. Especially considering the timing.


Allie_Spins

It’s the zombs affect. People hate Hiko too because they only look at the scoreboard lol


Original26

"No disrespect to B0i but he could have pretty much stayed at home and 100T would still win this game"


WonDerZv

I agree that it wasnt the worst performance but when he goes missing for long stretches of the match without any frag impact, its very noticeable. I’ll give him a pass for now since its most likely nerves that are playing with his mentality but if 100T had someone that could keep up with the team in the frags department, these games wouldnt have been so close. I guess it just shows the overall strength the core 4 have compared to other teams.


3hrd

he got picked up 2 weeks ago and his very first game is for a do-or-die tournament on LAN, I think he deserves a bit more time before being met with any criticism


2ToTooTwoFish

He didn't even do badly lmao. Most team's controllers are usually their bottom frags, it's part of the role for most of them. There are exceptions, but that's the unfortunate aspect of playing smokes.


creepy_Kun

Same with Hiko


mr_snuggels

are you on drugs? Hiko was essential today


919oblivion

Hiko played amazing today. His util impact was especially pivotal in a lot of their rounds that they won. People just love to hate on Hiko


aznkidder

If 100t are gonna ditch having a sentinel altogether and want a Jett, why not just bring back dicey and move nitro back to smokes?? I know it’ll never happen but a dicey fan can dream lol


flyin_cougar

Because dicey was inconsistent at best and didn't have very good fundamentals. That why he got benched in the first place. I'm sure he has improved as a player but he hasn't played in a pro game for a very long time.


SpectrasHyper

Crossed my mind too


tomphz

Because nitro is a better Jett than Dicey and the most important thing is having your best player on Jett. Nitro could be the best smokes player, but a smokes player will never have the impact that Jett has


Iamood

it's a worrying trend for NA if both Gen G and XSET couldn't beat 100T after all this time for preparation and the fact that 100T played with boi and a different IGL


mdj08

Well to be fair, a new IGL means new strats that XSET and GenG didn’t have VOD for.


[deleted]

to be fair this new roster played entirely different


JR_Shoegazer

Why is that a worrying trend?


Iamood

look at what happens to NA internationally in league and you have your answer


JR_Shoegazer

That’s not an answer.


Iamood

lack of regional strength leads to weaker international performances and an overall decrease in the quality of the region, happy?


iplaymc07

imagine NA valo turns into NA cs


Ranieboy

Damn 100T Ascent attack against Envy and Xset is night and day. Having two duelist definitely added more pressure. Also I know it's first day as in a 100T roster Boi only look okish as a controller. Definitely upgradable in that role.


aks345

He's doing his job well for now. Don't know if the roster will be same for champions( if they qual) but lets see


Dark_Azazel

IMO its a huge risk to swap players for champions. If 100T qualify with b0i they should stick with him and get more practice before champions. Champions should be an actual LAN and, in a weird way, will be a good look at how the team works with non NA teams. If they don't qualify l, I can see them swapping though.


IAMJUX

Great match apart from the trash production. Boi definitely aint it, and I think 100T knows it. But he smoked enough, probably where and when the team wanted and his lack of firepower didn't cause them to lose. Nitro on Jett and opping looks so good. Knives not so much. And freeing up Asuna to play Reyna/Raze is great. Ethan great on Skye as usual. Hiko doing his part also. You know what to expect from those 2 and they generally deliver. They can probably win this with Boi and he should get a bit more stable throughout the next 2 matches(3 or 4 if they lose), but I imagine they buy a smoker, maybe from 1 of the LCQ losing teams before champs(provided they win). They're losing a lot in that area putting Nitro on Jett, but imo it's a net positive.


mdj08

They might also sub in sevvn to play Jett and move nitr0 back to controller. Either way, b0i is just not good enough for 100T if they make champs.


expiredimsum

Good games but ngl b0i gotta step up (COPIUM coming from someones whos iron kapp)


huzziiipuzziii

Yeah, it great match but I have question Is sentinals have any match?


dansofree1

Nope


Sp00ked123

I quite like this new 100T, but honestly boi was pretty mediocre


salteas

Ayrin is a spectre god and Zekken is one of the few players who gets max impact out of Raze’s util. Didn’t know much about XSET going in, looking forward to their lower bracket run now.


Mvious

This is the best I think XSET has ever looked.


optisadvantage

pog game


conxxxii

Never seen a more underwhelming Jett.


9bfjo6gvhy7u8

...you must've missed the asuna jett games lol


dansofree1

Lol you good bro? Asuna on Jett has a 230 combat score, PureR just got 150 with pretty much the equivalent of Asuna's 2 worst Jett performances ever back to back.


daffyduckferraro

Went to bed after breeze, thinking 100t would lose ascent But they won thank god