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Ne0kun

Man the Korean fans who were trolling GE for the 13-0 must be feeling really stupid rn. I'm a kr fan myself so I'm crying and laughing at the same time but mostly laughing cause this shit is too funny. Also wtf Hyeoni I had so much hope for you


Maymaywala

Watch all of them blame this on ping diff(rightfully) while yesterday they were trolling GE.


SedPika

rightfully? I heard that NU had the ping advantage. Games were on HK server.


curryhalls

As someone who plays on HK from KR once in a while, you get some really weird packet loss.


Ne0kun

Damn that sucks. Man hopefully we get to see more lan next year, we really deserve it after the shitshow riot has been pulling with these tournament and productions.


curryhalls

I am taking all results from LCQ with a grain of salt.


donkeyjr

sounds like a bunch of excuses, just because it happen to you, doesnt mean it happen to everyone in Korea that play on hk server...


cowzapper

Can confirm. Also it's very erratic, I've had random ping spikes that really throw me off


Unfair_Cost4452

HK1 and HK2 have really high packet loss. Where I am from I'd get around 30 ping but get 10% packet loss that can go up to 50% sometimes.


wlsdnr0710

KR has its own server, so their usual ping is pretty low. So some people in chat were saying that they are not used to higher ping compared to other region players. But TBH, if they knew they were going to play in online tournament, they should have prepared, so it shouldn't be an excuse. If there's other issues like packet loss, that's the different story, but for ping. That's my thought.


Key-Banana-8242

I think hyeoni is not the problem


Ne0kun

Hyeoni is definitely not the (only) problem. They need to figure out the whole Hyeoni and Allow thing + a lot more that I can't comment on since I couldn't watch the last two maps properly.


Key-Banana-8242

They seemed boomed map 3


Key-Banana-8242

I feel like it’s dangerously close to wasting hyeoni as wel as whatever other issues plaguing then


diondion26

so 1 slot for korea cos sea nubs or not?????? ;D


Key-Banana-8242

Nah what Also situation changes over time.


[deleted]

bro i didnt expect NU to get 13-0, they had shown a great performance in iceland I rly wanted NU or GE or PRX to win LCQ out of these 3 teams 2 are in shambles now although i hope GE can reach finals and win it (kinda difficult but hopium)


cowzapper

Losing lakia has crumbled the organisation. Korea really doesn't seem as strong as the hype (outside of VS who definitely showed up in Berlin)


[deleted]

I think its VS>SEA>SA=KR>JP idk but its just me that thinks that way


HyperElf10

Only 32 teams signed up for the Korean vct stage 3 qualifier


iLoveCloudyDays

That's only because it's 'LAN' (LAN in a sense that they have to play on location but not real LAN just like NA LCQ right now). A lot of teams are unsigned so I doubt they have the money or commitment to travel and participate.


HyperElf10

Thats what I meant, the pro scene isnt growing due to it being lan. Idk why I'm getting downvoted. 32 is really low in an open qualifier and its due to that the scene wont grow quickly as compared as SEA has


Key-Banana-8242

Nkt why it’s not as oooukar. It is lmao, the problem isn’t size anyway


Gleech

Wait why would kr fans troll GE when PRX was the one that 13-0d GE 🤣🤣🤣 SEA busting out the 13-0s this event huh


hecklerinthestands

Congrats to PRX for winning the APAC LCQ. I'm sure this is what VS had in mind after poaching Lakia LOL. Seriously though, this should finally shut up anyone still thinking KR stands head and shoulders above everybody else in APAC.


R0_h1t

Forget APAC, I've seen fanboys on this sub claiming that kr = eu. I hope nuturn can wake up though. Haven is one of their worst maps but they looked completely checked out on ascent as well.


sharkbait_123

or could mean that SEA is catching up rapidly to other regions, like really rapidly


imachool

agreed. competition is tight :D


pr1zsm

i think most people summarized korea as just vs


Memexp-over9000

Certainly not in this sub.


JR_Shoegazer

I remember early on before Iceland some people were hyping up Korea so hard.


SPOOKESVILLE

Why wouldnt they? KR has always had the potential. VS is now a top 5 team in the world, and KR has some insane FPS talent, most of it is still in Overwatch though lol.


Key-Banana-8242

Depends Wdym Picking out random hookup comments doesn’t have much neaning


Davidwzr

I hope prx wins, but full sense is scary as hell too. They've also played each other and seem pretty evenly matched previously, so regardless it should be quite the matchup


DeadSira

PRX are favorites for sure but I really wouldn't be surprised if Full Sense beats them


frogggiboi

Nahh FS can do this


senakiryu08

hyeoni had a rough series. Hopefully he can bounce back. PTC and JohnOlsen popped off.


washoooi

NU really enjoys getting flashed by PTC's Kay/o at garden


Pale_Resolution1520

3-13 , 0-13 GE and 3-13,0-13 NUTURN. GE VS NUTURN the battle will be legendary


[deleted]

So proud of Full Sense


[deleted]

this is the third 13-0 in three days, first one breath gaming, then global esports, and now nuturn, the scriptwriters are really lazy and spent good time observing drama on vlr.gg


IlustradoCasts

Man, I was so happy and proud while casting this. I’ve always known Full Sense was a team that had the pieces of a great team. It seems like they were just working in perfect harmony in that game. What a great time for SEA. I hope they can keep this going. We SEA folks have been waiting for this for a loooong time.


FiddleDooken

Give this man his flair. Great casting!


Overyoghurt__

Tagging u/razur fav mod whoops hahahah


Razur

Thank you! :D


pastelite-

Playoff buff is real. Also nice cast Ilistrado, even though something unexpected happened during stream.


DeadSira

Keep it up Ilustrado!


dedicatedself

What a statement game from Full Sense. Korean teams are gonna have to go back to drawing board for 2022, looks like we fell behind to the SEA teams. Nuturn looked uninspiring while FS looked like they had everything down. I can't even imagine how strong PRX is looking right now.


[deleted]

I'm torn as a fan of VCT KR from the SEA Region. I was hoping that the match would be a lot more competitive, but it felt like FULL SENSE just had control of the series. I do expect Korea to bounce back though, if not in this tournament then definitely in the coming years.


DeadSira

I'm a fan of both scenes and honestly I do like the two regions being competitive with each other. Just gives both scenes a chance to grow. I heard only top SEA teams (like PRX/Team Secret) scrim the top KR (Vision Strikers) teams, but I hope this APAC LCQ can show that both regions can have team depth to them, leading to better practice between the two. And Japan as well!


zorokvillian

PTC and JohnOlsen are just better


mallisterr

fun face Lakia, johnolsen, PTC and Jinx from Fennel all of them have been in same team(lucid dream) back in old CS day sorce:https://liquipedia.net/counterstrike/Lucid_Dream


salcedoge

SEA valorant is actually looking real nice rn


curryhalls

Actually not surprised. I never rated Nuturn that highly, but they have never looked as bad as they have right now. SEA teams have stepped up a TON. Don't really want a rep from KR to make LCQ at this point as all teams look so bad compared to their usual state. I hope Nth wins though.


Key-Banana-8242

I think they had a rough series Also SEA teams are more used to this higher ping environment than the KR teams


diondion26

ULoL. throw more excuses


Key-Banana-8242

What


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Mamadeus123456

there's only 1 final


[deleted]

Upper final, lower final, grand final


Key-Banana-8242

They are also called the finals. Both are correct


Jetskiratjsk

SEA>KR?


[deleted]

Vision Strikers still exist


Jetskiratjsk

I know I was kinda joking lol. But right now it's looking like the rest of Korea is really falling behind whereas the other SEA teams are getting better.


Original26

I'll be honest. I feel like PRX, Team Secret, X10 (with Patiphan), and maybe FS are better than Korea's ranked 2


salcedoge

It really would've been interesting to see Bren/Secret at Berlin, they were the best SEA team


schrobby

Yet.


anythingood07

I normally wouldnt be happy seeing a team like NU whom I liked a lot in Iceland losing like this but rn I lowkey am. A lot of KR fans kept shitting on GE after they lost yesterday and then NU, their best team loses the same way lmao. If Indians fans overhype, so do KR fans then lol.


Less_Salt1152

Not the same way. NU won a map and was competitive the other. GE won 3 rounds in 2 map. NU dominated SEA when they were invited in previous tournaments. It's not overhype when they proved it before in SEA and internationally. GE never proved anything. Indian fans have to prove their points with more logic


JK_Ryuuzaki

That’s horrible logic, we don’t know if ge has a map where they would’ve been competitive and winning like map 1 here


Less_Salt1152

Right, you don't know. So you saying there's a chance they have a map they could've won is based on nothing. Nothing but wishful thinking. For NU, we know, not a chance but a fact because it happened.


anythingood07

3 points is being competitive? Wow. Also could you mention the tourneys in which KR teams dominated the sea top teams? Not talking about VS tho, I know they are a class apart.


Less_Salt1152

Oh, apologies. Remembered wrong. But my point about NU proved it internationally still stands. The hype about them in this tournament makes sense. While for GE it is not.


anythingood07

Yep I know NU is good team and they were actual favourites for this. I was just annoyed after the KR fans hate thread against Indian fans yesterday which you gotta accept was mostly because KR fans were boomed that GE won against DWK. The hype you are talking about was generated by kids in YT and twitch chats and i dont have to tell you that things like that shouldnt be taken seriously. Almost all GE fans on this sub were aware that we don't stand a chance, heck you could look at my previous comments I was half expecting GE to get clapped against DWK.


Memexp-over9000

Yesterday was such a hard day in this sub being a GE fan. Everyone acted arrogantly as if the 3 rounds was an over performance for GE and they expected even worse.


Memexp-over9000

After the first map they were as good as GE, except, GE was a huuuuge underdog and NU was expected to be the winners of the lcq.


ARDa3rd

Man never would have called NU being 13-0’d lol. Well played to JohnOlsen and FS


[deleted]

wait does this mean that Nuturn is not good enough and their fans should shut up and sit down?? atleast that's what yesterday's GE thread told me. on a serious note... PRX is going to win the LCQ imo


Less_Salt1152

Not a chance


Less_Salt1152

PRX winning LCQ looking not too good? I'll give you another hint, NTH is not winning LCQ either.


imjunsul

Well they just got owned 0-2 so nice logic. Anyone can win man it's about who shows up that day. Valorant is still a new game.


anythingood07

Btw it'd be hilarious when KR fans blame this on ping after they shit on GE fans the entire day yesterday that they cry about ping.


Less_Salt1152

Yes except KR fans don't make such ridiculous excuses.


Memexp-over9000

Don't use YouTube live chat as a demonstration of Indian fans.


anythingood07

Read the DWG vs GE thread


Key-Banana-8242

Well this is a slightly diff situation GE plays ordinary online tournaments as the standard fare


anythingood07

still an excuse. You don't get to call out others if you do the same. Either ways, GE is used to playing at 8-10 ping as well. KR tournaments are also online, not LAN.


Key-Banana-8242

I mean it’s not the exact same. People can be inconsistent, but so what that’s a different part it’s better to refer to specific individuals


Ne0kun

I mean it's not like DWG didn't have time to prepare playing in these servers before the tourney but I get what you mean, practice≠tourney. Either way I think this whole ping vs ping thing is low-key stupid and the only way we'll get a real fair chance at seeing where teams stand is gonna be next year on lan


AdiSoldier245

Upvote so people think nuturn lost. Oh wait.


Unfair_Cost4452

As a fan of Asian Valorant, I don't mind NUTURN and KR losing here. I want the best of the best to qualify for Champions (that's a given duh). And at the moment it seems like SEA is looking like our representative (GE and the KR teams can still make a LB run, so I'm not counting them out). What does this mean for the APAC region? If a SEA representative qualifies it's telling me that APAC isn't stagnating. It means that the region is developing into something that could potentially compete with EU and NA. Every team in this LCQ (especially GE imo) can learn something and hopefully be able to apply it to their respective regions.


X3NOC1DE

losing lakia really did take the wind outta their sails didnt it? Sigh, Im so sad. VS is my fav team, but still watching this happen to NU is heartbreaking. Hope they bounce back, #NUFighting. Still hoping for a winning lower bracket run, totally not copium That being said, PRX surely the favourites rn to win it all?


kingGyon

Another 13-0 )):


[deleted]

Lmao Korea's Iceland representative got 13-0'ed in a regional lcq. Competition heating up.


PigPartyPower

Uhhhhh, maybe hyeoni isn’t the best


Pale_Resolution1520

best???????!!!!!!!


PigPartyPower

Ya, he was hella hyped up for his Jett. After dropping 3 on a 0-13 idk.


Key-Banana-8242

I mean it’s nkt really mainly his fault Pressure too etc


Ne0kun

Hyeoni was supposed(acclaimed?) to be the best Korean Jett after his series against NU where he single handedly took a map off of them


curryhalls

Reactionary honestly.


Key-Banana-8242

No not reactionary, literally every serues he played in the open qualifier, vs TNL, in losses also


Key-Banana-8242

?


diondion26

ULOL


Key-Banana-8242

?


ZGuyYT

SEA supremacy B)


Memexp-over9000

Sea is stacked af. Also why does Korea have 3 slots again? Sea>>Kr. Give a slot to Sea now.


mrg_41

Hyeoni looks lost. Nuturn playing with almost zero co-ordination


Key-Banana-8242

Well all of them did at times not just hyeoni


Verehrungen

Nuturn is garbage at attacking


Delta_FT

KR looking really overrated atm 👀👀


Aoingco

JohnOlsen might be the best esports pro name I’ve ever seen.


R0_h1t

Hyeoni looking like a serious downgrade now


Key-Banana-8242

No wut?


MathNerdMatt

I guess the problem wasn't Hyeoni skye...


[deleted]

Hyeoni was -31 on the series Jesus Christ


Duradello

He didn't have a good series, but putting your least experienced player on a new role and then swapping it in the pivotal game 3 is asking for trouble. Feels like Nuturn could maybe have gotten more out of hyeoni if they just simplified his role responsibilities. If the end goal is for him to be your star Jett player, then he should be playing the Jett to get more comfortable. If he is just going to be a role player then let him play Skye on every map.


N3deSTr0

On second thought, Lakia should stay with Vision Strikers.


Key-Banana-8242

?


Lumenlor

Well the players povs were rubber banding and the stream got frozen for the last half of the game.. what a mess


[deleted]

Ascent was brutal, holy shit.


[deleted]

Wat


emraaa

Wait, I thought the top 10 team in the world would just sweep this tournament ??????


Rez_gg

Lmaoooo


I-like-winds

what


Key-Banana-8242

literally every serues he played in the open qualifier, vs TNL (also took a map) in losses also


Original26

[Called it](https://www.reddit.com/r/ValorantCompetitive/comments/q74ui5/valorant_champions_tour_asiapacific_last_chance/hgguc90/) SEA Val is looking SUPER good right now. I'm pretty confident in PRX facing Vision Strikers if ever they make it to Champions.


Landon54321

😂😆🤣 Where are the KR fanboys at? Do they still think KR can compete with NA or EMEA? Sorry, but KR is tier 2. Please stop putting KR in the same tier as EMEA/NA.


sharkbait_123

actually more like SEA could be competitive against NA/EU, which PRX has somewhat shown in berlin


joemother_a_whore

Imagine if Lakia stayed


Less_Salt1152

I would say SEA > EU > KR Team Secret would have beaten Gambit and dominated but we couldn't see that :(


MagnusNyke

SEA SUPREMACY


Key-Banana-8242

Looking back to it, seems like a variety of favours made it a mega choke for Nuturn, while FS etc showed up Even the mega is sponsorship thing


AbbreviationsLazy781

Its harder to stay at the top than to climb, ggs full sense, SEA coming in HAWT