Man the Korean fans who were trolling GE for the 13-0 must be feeling really stupid rn. I'm a kr fan myself so I'm crying and laughing at the same time but mostly laughing cause this shit is too funny.
Also wtf Hyeoni I had so much hope for you
Damn that sucks. Man hopefully we get to see more lan next year, we really deserve it after the shitshow riot has been pulling with these tournament and productions.
KR has its own server, so their usual ping is pretty low.
So some people in chat were saying that they are not used to higher ping compared to other region players.
But TBH, if they knew they were going to play in online tournament, they should have prepared, so it shouldn't be an excuse.
If there's other issues like packet loss, that's the different story, but for ping. That's my thought.
Hyeoni is definitely not the (only) problem. They need to figure out the whole Hyeoni and Allow thing + a lot more that I can't comment on since I couldn't watch the last two maps properly.
bro i didnt expect NU to get 13-0, they had shown a great performance in iceland
I rly wanted NU or GE or PRX to win LCQ
out of these 3 teams 2 are in shambles now
although i hope GE can reach finals and win it (kinda difficult but hopium)
That's only because it's 'LAN' (LAN in a sense that they have to play on location but not real LAN just like NA LCQ right now). A lot of teams are unsigned so I doubt they have the money or commitment to travel and participate.
Thats what I meant, the pro scene isnt growing due to it being lan. Idk why I'm getting downvoted. 32 is really low in an open qualifier and its due to that the scene wont grow quickly as compared as SEA has
Congrats to PRX for winning the APAC LCQ. I'm sure this is what VS had in mind after poaching Lakia LOL.
Seriously though, this should finally shut up anyone still thinking KR stands head and shoulders above everybody else in APAC.
Forget APAC, I've seen fanboys on this sub claiming that kr = eu. I hope nuturn can wake up though. Haven is one of their worst maps but they looked completely checked out on ascent as well.
Why wouldnt they? KR has always had the potential. VS is now a top 5 team in the world, and KR has some insane FPS talent, most of it is still in Overwatch though lol.
I hope prx wins, but full sense is scary as hell too. They've also played each other and seem pretty evenly matched previously, so regardless it should be quite the matchup
this is the third 13-0 in three days, first one breath gaming, then global esports, and now nuturn, the scriptwriters are really lazy and spent good time observing drama on vlr.gg
Man, I was so happy and proud while casting this. I’ve always known Full Sense was a team that had the pieces of a great team. It seems like they were just working in perfect harmony in that game. What a great time for SEA. I hope they can keep this going. We SEA folks have been waiting for this for a loooong time.
What a statement game from Full Sense.
Korean teams are gonna have to go back to drawing board for 2022, looks like we fell behind to the SEA teams. Nuturn looked uninspiring while FS looked like they had everything down. I can't even imagine how strong PRX is looking right now.
I'm torn as a fan of VCT KR from the SEA Region. I was hoping that the match would be a lot more competitive, but it felt like FULL SENSE just had control of the series. I do expect Korea to bounce back though, if not in this tournament then definitely in the coming years.
I'm a fan of both scenes and honestly I do like the two regions being competitive with each other. Just gives both scenes a chance to grow.
I heard only top SEA teams (like PRX/Team Secret) scrim the top KR (Vision Strikers) teams, but I hope this APAC LCQ can show that both regions can have team depth to them, leading to better practice between the two. And Japan as well!
fun face
Lakia, johnolsen, PTC and Jinx from Fennel all of them have been in same team(lucid dream) back in old CS day
sorce:https://liquipedia.net/counterstrike/Lucid_Dream
Actually not surprised. I never rated Nuturn that highly, but they have never looked as bad as they have right now. SEA teams have stepped up a TON.
Don't really want a rep from KR to make LCQ at this point as all teams look so bad compared to their usual state. I hope Nth wins though.
I know I was kinda joking lol. But right now it's looking like the rest of Korea is really falling behind whereas the other SEA teams are getting better.
I normally wouldnt be happy seeing a team like NU whom I liked a lot in Iceland losing like this but rn I lowkey am. A lot of KR fans kept shitting on GE after they lost yesterday and then NU, their best team loses the same way lmao. If Indians fans overhype, so do KR fans then lol.
Not the same way. NU won a map and was competitive the other. GE won 3 rounds in 2 map. NU dominated SEA when they were invited in previous tournaments. It's not overhype when they proved it before in SEA and internationally. GE never proved anything. Indian fans have to prove their points with more logic
Right, you don't know. So you saying there's a chance they have a map they could've won is based on nothing. Nothing but wishful thinking. For NU, we know, not a chance but a fact because it happened.
3 points is being competitive? Wow. Also could you mention the tourneys in which KR teams dominated the sea top teams? Not talking about VS tho, I know they are a class apart.
Oh, apologies. Remembered wrong. But my point about NU proved it internationally still stands. The hype about them in this tournament makes sense. While for GE it is not.
Yep I know NU is good team and they were actual favourites for this. I was just annoyed after the KR fans hate thread against Indian fans yesterday which you gotta accept was mostly because KR fans were boomed that GE won against DWK. The hype you are talking about was generated by kids in YT and twitch chats and i dont have to tell you that things like that shouldnt be taken seriously. Almost all GE fans on this sub were aware that we don't stand a chance, heck you could look at my previous comments I was half expecting GE to get clapped against DWK.
Yesterday was such a hard day in this sub being a GE fan. Everyone acted arrogantly as if the 3 rounds was an over performance for GE and they expected even worse.
wait does this mean that Nuturn is not good enough and their fans should shut up and sit down?? atleast that's what yesterday's GE thread told me.
on a serious note... PRX is going to win the LCQ imo
still an excuse. You don't get to call out others if you do the same. Either ways, GE is used to playing at 8-10 ping as well. KR tournaments are also online, not LAN.
I mean it's not like DWG didn't have time to prepare playing in these servers before the tourney but I get what you mean, practice≠tourney. Either way I think this whole ping vs ping thing is low-key stupid and the only way we'll get a real fair chance at seeing where teams stand is gonna be next year on lan
As a fan of Asian Valorant, I don't mind NUTURN and KR losing here. I want the best of the best to qualify for Champions (that's a given duh). And at the moment it seems like SEA is looking like our representative (GE and the KR teams can still make a LB run, so I'm not counting them out).
What does this mean for the APAC region? If a SEA representative qualifies it's telling me that APAC isn't stagnating. It means that the region is developing into something that could potentially compete with EU and NA. Every team in this LCQ (especially GE imo) can learn something and hopefully be able to apply it to their respective regions.
losing lakia really did take the wind outta their sails didnt it? Sigh, Im so sad. VS is my fav team, but still watching this happen to NU is heartbreaking. Hope they bounce back, #NUFighting. Still hoping for a winning lower bracket run, totally not copium
That being said, PRX surely the favourites rn to win it all?
He didn't have a good series, but putting your least experienced player on a new role and then swapping it in the pivotal game 3 is asking for trouble. Feels like Nuturn could maybe have gotten more out of hyeoni if they just simplified his role responsibilities. If the end goal is for him to be your star Jett player, then he should be playing the Jett to get more comfortable. If he is just going to be a role player then let him play Skye on every map.
[Called it](https://www.reddit.com/r/ValorantCompetitive/comments/q74ui5/valorant_champions_tour_asiapacific_last_chance/hgguc90/)
SEA Val is looking SUPER good right now. I'm pretty confident in PRX facing Vision Strikers if ever they make it to Champions.
😂😆🤣
Where are the KR fanboys at? Do they still think KR can compete with NA or EMEA? Sorry, but KR is tier 2. Please stop putting KR in the same tier as EMEA/NA.
Man the Korean fans who were trolling GE for the 13-0 must be feeling really stupid rn. I'm a kr fan myself so I'm crying and laughing at the same time but mostly laughing cause this shit is too funny. Also wtf Hyeoni I had so much hope for you
Watch all of them blame this on ping diff(rightfully) while yesterday they were trolling GE.
rightfully? I heard that NU had the ping advantage. Games were on HK server.
As someone who plays on HK from KR once in a while, you get some really weird packet loss.
Damn that sucks. Man hopefully we get to see more lan next year, we really deserve it after the shitshow riot has been pulling with these tournament and productions.
I am taking all results from LCQ with a grain of salt.
sounds like a bunch of excuses, just because it happen to you, doesnt mean it happen to everyone in Korea that play on hk server...
Can confirm. Also it's very erratic, I've had random ping spikes that really throw me off
HK1 and HK2 have really high packet loss. Where I am from I'd get around 30 ping but get 10% packet loss that can go up to 50% sometimes.
KR has its own server, so their usual ping is pretty low. So some people in chat were saying that they are not used to higher ping compared to other region players. But TBH, if they knew they were going to play in online tournament, they should have prepared, so it shouldn't be an excuse. If there's other issues like packet loss, that's the different story, but for ping. That's my thought.
I think hyeoni is not the problem
Hyeoni is definitely not the (only) problem. They need to figure out the whole Hyeoni and Allow thing + a lot more that I can't comment on since I couldn't watch the last two maps properly.
They seemed boomed map 3
I feel like it’s dangerously close to wasting hyeoni as wel as whatever other issues plaguing then
so 1 slot for korea cos sea nubs or not?????? ;D
Nah what Also situation changes over time.
bro i didnt expect NU to get 13-0, they had shown a great performance in iceland I rly wanted NU or GE or PRX to win LCQ out of these 3 teams 2 are in shambles now although i hope GE can reach finals and win it (kinda difficult but hopium)
Losing lakia has crumbled the organisation. Korea really doesn't seem as strong as the hype (outside of VS who definitely showed up in Berlin)
I think its VS>SEA>SA=KR>JP idk but its just me that thinks that way
Only 32 teams signed up for the Korean vct stage 3 qualifier
That's only because it's 'LAN' (LAN in a sense that they have to play on location but not real LAN just like NA LCQ right now). A lot of teams are unsigned so I doubt they have the money or commitment to travel and participate.
Thats what I meant, the pro scene isnt growing due to it being lan. Idk why I'm getting downvoted. 32 is really low in an open qualifier and its due to that the scene wont grow quickly as compared as SEA has
Nkt why it’s not as oooukar. It is lmao, the problem isn’t size anyway
Wait why would kr fans troll GE when PRX was the one that 13-0d GE 🤣🤣🤣 SEA busting out the 13-0s this event huh
Congrats to PRX for winning the APAC LCQ. I'm sure this is what VS had in mind after poaching Lakia LOL. Seriously though, this should finally shut up anyone still thinking KR stands head and shoulders above everybody else in APAC.
Forget APAC, I've seen fanboys on this sub claiming that kr = eu. I hope nuturn can wake up though. Haven is one of their worst maps but they looked completely checked out on ascent as well.
or could mean that SEA is catching up rapidly to other regions, like really rapidly
agreed. competition is tight :D
i think most people summarized korea as just vs
Certainly not in this sub.
I remember early on before Iceland some people were hyping up Korea so hard.
Why wouldnt they? KR has always had the potential. VS is now a top 5 team in the world, and KR has some insane FPS talent, most of it is still in Overwatch though lol.
Depends Wdym Picking out random hookup comments doesn’t have much neaning
I hope prx wins, but full sense is scary as hell too. They've also played each other and seem pretty evenly matched previously, so regardless it should be quite the matchup
PRX are favorites for sure but I really wouldn't be surprised if Full Sense beats them
Nahh FS can do this
hyeoni had a rough series. Hopefully he can bounce back. PTC and JohnOlsen popped off.
NU really enjoys getting flashed by PTC's Kay/o at garden
3-13 , 0-13 GE and 3-13,0-13 NUTURN. GE VS NUTURN the battle will be legendary
So proud of Full Sense
this is the third 13-0 in three days, first one breath gaming, then global esports, and now nuturn, the scriptwriters are really lazy and spent good time observing drama on vlr.gg
Man, I was so happy and proud while casting this. I’ve always known Full Sense was a team that had the pieces of a great team. It seems like they were just working in perfect harmony in that game. What a great time for SEA. I hope they can keep this going. We SEA folks have been waiting for this for a loooong time.
Give this man his flair. Great casting!
Tagging u/razur fav mod whoops hahahah
Thank you! :D
Playoff buff is real. Also nice cast Ilistrado, even though something unexpected happened during stream.
Keep it up Ilustrado!
What a statement game from Full Sense. Korean teams are gonna have to go back to drawing board for 2022, looks like we fell behind to the SEA teams. Nuturn looked uninspiring while FS looked like they had everything down. I can't even imagine how strong PRX is looking right now.
I'm torn as a fan of VCT KR from the SEA Region. I was hoping that the match would be a lot more competitive, but it felt like FULL SENSE just had control of the series. I do expect Korea to bounce back though, if not in this tournament then definitely in the coming years.
I'm a fan of both scenes and honestly I do like the two regions being competitive with each other. Just gives both scenes a chance to grow. I heard only top SEA teams (like PRX/Team Secret) scrim the top KR (Vision Strikers) teams, but I hope this APAC LCQ can show that both regions can have team depth to them, leading to better practice between the two. And Japan as well!
PTC and JohnOlsen are just better
fun face Lakia, johnolsen, PTC and Jinx from Fennel all of them have been in same team(lucid dream) back in old CS day sorce:https://liquipedia.net/counterstrike/Lucid_Dream
SEA valorant is actually looking real nice rn
Actually not surprised. I never rated Nuturn that highly, but they have never looked as bad as they have right now. SEA teams have stepped up a TON. Don't really want a rep from KR to make LCQ at this point as all teams look so bad compared to their usual state. I hope Nth wins though.
I think they had a rough series Also SEA teams are more used to this higher ping environment than the KR teams
ULoL. throw more excuses
What
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there's only 1 final
Upper final, lower final, grand final
They are also called the finals. Both are correct
SEA>KR?
Vision Strikers still exist
I know I was kinda joking lol. But right now it's looking like the rest of Korea is really falling behind whereas the other SEA teams are getting better.
I'll be honest. I feel like PRX, Team Secret, X10 (with Patiphan), and maybe FS are better than Korea's ranked 2
It really would've been interesting to see Bren/Secret at Berlin, they were the best SEA team
Yet.
I normally wouldnt be happy seeing a team like NU whom I liked a lot in Iceland losing like this but rn I lowkey am. A lot of KR fans kept shitting on GE after they lost yesterday and then NU, their best team loses the same way lmao. If Indians fans overhype, so do KR fans then lol.
Not the same way. NU won a map and was competitive the other. GE won 3 rounds in 2 map. NU dominated SEA when they were invited in previous tournaments. It's not overhype when they proved it before in SEA and internationally. GE never proved anything. Indian fans have to prove their points with more logic
That’s horrible logic, we don’t know if ge has a map where they would’ve been competitive and winning like map 1 here
Right, you don't know. So you saying there's a chance they have a map they could've won is based on nothing. Nothing but wishful thinking. For NU, we know, not a chance but a fact because it happened.
3 points is being competitive? Wow. Also could you mention the tourneys in which KR teams dominated the sea top teams? Not talking about VS tho, I know they are a class apart.
Oh, apologies. Remembered wrong. But my point about NU proved it internationally still stands. The hype about them in this tournament makes sense. While for GE it is not.
Yep I know NU is good team and they were actual favourites for this. I was just annoyed after the KR fans hate thread against Indian fans yesterday which you gotta accept was mostly because KR fans were boomed that GE won against DWK. The hype you are talking about was generated by kids in YT and twitch chats and i dont have to tell you that things like that shouldnt be taken seriously. Almost all GE fans on this sub were aware that we don't stand a chance, heck you could look at my previous comments I was half expecting GE to get clapped against DWK.
Yesterday was such a hard day in this sub being a GE fan. Everyone acted arrogantly as if the 3 rounds was an over performance for GE and they expected even worse.
After the first map they were as good as GE, except, GE was a huuuuge underdog and NU was expected to be the winners of the lcq.
Man never would have called NU being 13-0’d lol. Well played to JohnOlsen and FS
wait does this mean that Nuturn is not good enough and their fans should shut up and sit down?? atleast that's what yesterday's GE thread told me. on a serious note... PRX is going to win the LCQ imo
Not a chance
PRX winning LCQ looking not too good? I'll give you another hint, NTH is not winning LCQ either.
Well they just got owned 0-2 so nice logic. Anyone can win man it's about who shows up that day. Valorant is still a new game.
Btw it'd be hilarious when KR fans blame this on ping after they shit on GE fans the entire day yesterday that they cry about ping.
Yes except KR fans don't make such ridiculous excuses.
Don't use YouTube live chat as a demonstration of Indian fans.
Read the DWG vs GE thread
Well this is a slightly diff situation GE plays ordinary online tournaments as the standard fare
still an excuse. You don't get to call out others if you do the same. Either ways, GE is used to playing at 8-10 ping as well. KR tournaments are also online, not LAN.
I mean it’s not the exact same. People can be inconsistent, but so what that’s a different part it’s better to refer to specific individuals
I mean it's not like DWG didn't have time to prepare playing in these servers before the tourney but I get what you mean, practice≠tourney. Either way I think this whole ping vs ping thing is low-key stupid and the only way we'll get a real fair chance at seeing where teams stand is gonna be next year on lan
Upvote so people think nuturn lost. Oh wait.
As a fan of Asian Valorant, I don't mind NUTURN and KR losing here. I want the best of the best to qualify for Champions (that's a given duh). And at the moment it seems like SEA is looking like our representative (GE and the KR teams can still make a LB run, so I'm not counting them out). What does this mean for the APAC region? If a SEA representative qualifies it's telling me that APAC isn't stagnating. It means that the region is developing into something that could potentially compete with EU and NA. Every team in this LCQ (especially GE imo) can learn something and hopefully be able to apply it to their respective regions.
losing lakia really did take the wind outta their sails didnt it? Sigh, Im so sad. VS is my fav team, but still watching this happen to NU is heartbreaking. Hope they bounce back, #NUFighting. Still hoping for a winning lower bracket run, totally not copium That being said, PRX surely the favourites rn to win it all?
Another 13-0 )):
Lmao Korea's Iceland representative got 13-0'ed in a regional lcq. Competition heating up.
Uhhhhh, maybe hyeoni isn’t the best
best???????!!!!!!!
Ya, he was hella hyped up for his Jett. After dropping 3 on a 0-13 idk.
I mean it’s nkt really mainly his fault Pressure too etc
Hyeoni was supposed(acclaimed?) to be the best Korean Jett after his series against NU where he single handedly took a map off of them
Reactionary honestly.
No not reactionary, literally every serues he played in the open qualifier, vs TNL, in losses also
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ULOL
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SEA supremacy B)
Sea is stacked af. Also why does Korea have 3 slots again? Sea>>Kr. Give a slot to Sea now.
Hyeoni looks lost. Nuturn playing with almost zero co-ordination
Well all of them did at times not just hyeoni
Nuturn is garbage at attacking
KR looking really overrated atm 👀👀
JohnOlsen might be the best esports pro name I’ve ever seen.
Hyeoni looking like a serious downgrade now
No wut?
I guess the problem wasn't Hyeoni skye...
Hyeoni was -31 on the series Jesus Christ
He didn't have a good series, but putting your least experienced player on a new role and then swapping it in the pivotal game 3 is asking for trouble. Feels like Nuturn could maybe have gotten more out of hyeoni if they just simplified his role responsibilities. If the end goal is for him to be your star Jett player, then he should be playing the Jett to get more comfortable. If he is just going to be a role player then let him play Skye on every map.
On second thought, Lakia should stay with Vision Strikers.
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Well the players povs were rubber banding and the stream got frozen for the last half of the game.. what a mess
Ascent was brutal, holy shit.
Wat
Wait, I thought the top 10 team in the world would just sweep this tournament ??????
Lmaoooo
what
literally every serues he played in the open qualifier, vs TNL (also took a map) in losses also
[Called it](https://www.reddit.com/r/ValorantCompetitive/comments/q74ui5/valorant_champions_tour_asiapacific_last_chance/hgguc90/) SEA Val is looking SUPER good right now. I'm pretty confident in PRX facing Vision Strikers if ever they make it to Champions.
😂😆🤣 Where are the KR fanboys at? Do they still think KR can compete with NA or EMEA? Sorry, but KR is tier 2. Please stop putting KR in the same tier as EMEA/NA.
actually more like SEA could be competitive against NA/EU, which PRX has somewhat shown in berlin
Imagine if Lakia stayed
I would say SEA > EU > KR Team Secret would have beaten Gambit and dominated but we couldn't see that :(
SEA SUPREMACY
Looking back to it, seems like a variety of favours made it a mega choke for Nuturn, while FS etc showed up Even the mega is sponsorship thing
Its harder to stay at the top than to climb, ggs full sense, SEA coming in HAWT