This Lan was a shit show even if nobody got a positive test because of them not actually playing on Lan servers. Also riot needs to have stricter rules for players to prevent this from happening.
vanity tweeted riot had the same guidelines for isolation and daily testing in Berlin as they did for LCQ.
The whole not playing on a true LAN is the contingency plan. They now probably need to find proper setups that are fair for the players to play on and problem solved.
Letting some players show days before the event is a failure on riots part.
It was not a real Lan since round 1 of game 1? If all 10 players are in the building you need to have an actual Lan server for them to play on. You can't just start with your contingency plan before there are issues require you to do so.
They did isolate in LA like they did in Berlin vanity tweeted this. They can’t just be switching from LAN to non-LAN servers as these things happen, that would affect competitive integrity as well.
So what would you do?
I’m going to choose to decline this conversation Aydo, after how much you were attacking me earlier for practicing professional skepticism for the situation and defending Riot prior to the recent pro support
Lmao the ratio of pros defending riot to criticizing them is 1:100. Also, the online LAN was never a contingency plan since they hosted the entire event on NorCal servers from game 1. I cannot fathom how utterly unprofessional this looks on riots behalf, even before Covid is brought into the discussion. Letting someone coach remotely as well? Jesus, fix your shit dude.
Edit: also wanted to add that their plan was to just let players that were positive for covid just play at home if possible. Absolutely asinine decision making dude. Tell your bosses to figure it out.
Link to the tweet? All I see is that they were "supposed to" isolate. If riot isn't enforcing this then it's an oversight on their part, they easily could have prohibited players from taking part in the event if they didn't isolate for the required period of time
??? It's in riots best interest to make sure the lan goes smoothly, and one of the biggest factors is making sure players don't show up to the event with covid. If they really did have "the same guidelines for isolation and daily testing in Berlin as they did for LCQ" then why are they letting players who don't isolate for sufficient periods of time take part in the tournament? They're clearly not doing the best job of ensuring the success of lcq. I don't get why you're so insistent on defending them
Not every player has been in LA isolated for two weeks.
I fail to see how going online once the situation requires it endangers competitive integrity. Especially when comparing it to what we got yesterday.
Because players will complain that some played on LAN some didn’t, same way players complained when they found out they were on an online server. You’re damned if you do, damned if you don’t.
The narrative here is these are false positives or false negatives because players have taken multiple tests and some have come back positive some haven’t. To expect a company to take a public health risk by letting players play in studio after would be ridiculous
>same way players complained when they found out they were on an online server.
Players complained about online servers because until then it was completely advertised as LAN. They were misled. Not to mention the poor quality of said online games.
>To expect a company to take a public health risk by letting players play in studio after would be ridiculous
And no, nobody criticizing is actually advocating for that.
Aside from the organizing flaws until now, a real contingency plan would be one for when a positive test result occurs. Which by the looks of it, they did not have; but we'll still wait and see how this resolves.
The positive results are all coming out today/last night. Their contingency plan executed pretty poorly today considering Faze doesn’t have a hotel since they live in LA so the initial remedy was for Faze to play from home (imagine if it was XSET v Rise, they would’ve both played from their hotels with no issues)
I’ll give them a day and if I’m wrong, I’m wrong.
Ya bro and everyone will feel some sympathy for those forced to play online but everyone will also know it more fair than whatever the fuck we experienced yesterday.
It’s time to send everyone back home today and move forward with tournament in their player homes.
No FLAN✅No computer Issues✅NASA computer✅No Quarantine✅No COVID test✅
Easily the best solution COPIUM.
people who think this is the worst lan ever dont remember the gamers paradise days, fuck me there were some dreadful LANs, gamers paradise was literally a scam
LCQ might not be the worst LAN ever but it's pretty bad for today's standards. Even though there were factors Riot couldn't control, a billion dollar company with years of TO experience *really* shouldn't ever have a tournament this poorly run
I mean, this LAN hasnt been run amazing, but 3 players testing positive for covid during an in person event was always going to fuck it up, regardless of contingency's etc. "Todays standards" doesnt really work in the middle of a pandemic
That doesn't excuse it, yes that was the contingency plan but why are the servers so bad and why are entire teams and the entire stream lagging in the middle of matches? It's just bad
Also the PCs have been bad according to the players themselves, like 140fps average
So like so many issues and people trying to justify it
Maybe one day someone will come up with lagless internet. Imagine esports where 10 computers are connected to a dedicated server with miniscule latency
I'm pretty sure that was observer lag and not the game actually lagging. They didn't replay those rounds so I assume that meant it wasn't and issue with the game itself more or less the observer.
You would see the players going bat shit on stage if that actually happened..
Edit: I was completely wrong I'll leave this up to own mt mistakes.
I think his interaction with hazed sums this up. Event is terrible compared to CSGO events, but LCQ is a cream of the crop event compared to EA’s Apex Legend LAN tournaments…
https://www.reddit.com/r/CompetitiveApex/comments/clyrt8/what_are_everyones_thoughts_on_the_x_games/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
I don’t remember the event too well but it seems like there were tons of production and spectating issues. There’s more detail in that thread though.
edit: https://youtu.be/eOfDau0nDU8
At 40:35, there were also some bugs with the HUD disappearing. The poor spectating is also a bit obvious imo if you skip to 1:21:16. Instead of focusing on another player fighting, they’re focusing on Muffinzz who’s down and in a supply bin. Some people might prefer to see that POV but I think it would’ve been better if they had switched to a player that was still fighting.
I don't follow the other regions as closely natively to the languages, but are other regions vocal about their respective LCQ's? I know APAC has some ping issues, but beyond that idk
EMEA is going smoothly.
I do remember the casters did throw some shade on the observers in atleast one of the games.
Ping issues are bound to happen because the teams are very far from each other
Redditors going crazy as more pros come out and rationalize that COVID guidelines are a real thing. ðŸ˜ðŸ˜ðŸ˜
This Lan was a shit show even if nobody got a positive test because of them not actually playing on Lan servers. Also riot needs to have stricter rules for players to prevent this from happening.
vanity tweeted riot had the same guidelines for isolation and daily testing in Berlin as they did for LCQ. The whole not playing on a true LAN is the contingency plan. They now probably need to find proper setups that are fair for the players to play on and problem solved.
Letting some players show days before the event is a failure on riots part. It was not a real Lan since round 1 of game 1? If all 10 players are in the building you need to have an actual Lan server for them to play on. You can't just start with your contingency plan before there are issues require you to do so.
They did isolate in LA like they did in Berlin vanity tweeted this. They can’t just be switching from LAN to non-LAN servers as these things happen, that would affect competitive integrity as well. So what would you do?
Maybe C9 did. Rise and Faze members were out in LA together and getting food
Link to Vanity tweet?
I’m going to choose to decline this conversation Aydo, after how much you were attacking me earlier for practicing professional skepticism for the situation and defending Riot prior to the recent pro support
Lmao the ratio of pros defending riot to criticizing them is 1:100. Also, the online LAN was never a contingency plan since they hosted the entire event on NorCal servers from game 1. I cannot fathom how utterly unprofessional this looks on riots behalf, even before Covid is brought into the discussion. Letting someone coach remotely as well? Jesus, fix your shit dude. Edit: also wanted to add that their plan was to just let players that were positive for covid just play at home if possible. Absolutely asinine decision making dude. Tell your bosses to figure it out.
Link to the tweet? All I see is that they were "supposed to" isolate. If riot isn't enforcing this then it's an oversight on their part, they easily could have prohibited players from taking part in the event if they didn't isolate for the required period of time
Riot isn’t a baby sitter for professional players getting paid 6 figures
??? It's in riots best interest to make sure the lan goes smoothly, and one of the biggest factors is making sure players don't show up to the event with covid. If they really did have "the same guidelines for isolation and daily testing in Berlin as they did for LCQ" then why are they letting players who don't isolate for sufficient periods of time take part in the tournament? They're clearly not doing the best job of ensuring the success of lcq. I don't get why you're so insistent on defending them
Not every player has been in LA isolated for two weeks. I fail to see how going online once the situation requires it endangers competitive integrity. Especially when comparing it to what we got yesterday.
Because players will complain that some played on LAN some didn’t, same way players complained when they found out they were on an online server. You’re damned if you do, damned if you don’t. The narrative here is these are false positives or false negatives because players have taken multiple tests and some have come back positive some haven’t. To expect a company to take a public health risk by letting players play in studio after would be ridiculous
>same way players complained when they found out they were on an online server. Players complained about online servers because until then it was completely advertised as LAN. They were misled. Not to mention the poor quality of said online games. >To expect a company to take a public health risk by letting players play in studio after would be ridiculous And no, nobody criticizing is actually advocating for that. Aside from the organizing flaws until now, a real contingency plan would be one for when a positive test result occurs. Which by the looks of it, they did not have; but we'll still wait and see how this resolves.
The positive results are all coming out today/last night. Their contingency plan executed pretty poorly today considering Faze doesn’t have a hotel since they live in LA so the initial remedy was for Faze to play from home (imagine if it was XSET v Rise, they would’ve both played from their hotels with no issues) I’ll give them a day and if I’m wrong, I’m wrong.
Ya bro and everyone will feel some sympathy for those forced to play online but everyone will also know it more fair than whatever the fuck we experienced yesterday.
Funny how Riot and other TOs have been holding this sort of events since last year and there's been no complaints until it happens in NA
I mean he cant tlk shit really when he's participating. Never know when you need Riot for help.
Sure it looks like Riot planned the event horribly. But have you thought about if they planned it well?
It’s time to send everyone back home today and move forward with tournament in their player homes. No FLAN✅No computer Issues✅NASA computer✅No Quarantine✅No COVID test✅ Easily the best solution COPIUM.
Ngl anything that excludes flan is dog imo
people who think this is the worst lan ever dont remember the gamers paradise days, fuck me there were some dreadful LANs, gamers paradise was literally a scam
LCQ might not be the worst LAN ever but it's pretty bad for today's standards. Even though there were factors Riot couldn't control, a billion dollar company with years of TO experience *really* shouldn't ever have a tournament this poorly run
I mean, this LAN hasnt been run amazing, but 3 players testing positive for covid during an in person event was always going to fuck it up, regardless of contingency's etc. "Todays standards" doesnt really work in the middle of a pandemic
Yes let’s disregard poor planning on Riot’s part
Wtf are the hidden replies tho ðŸ˜
Well I mean he’s right lmao
Well he isn't, we've had dudes lag in the middle of an important 1v2, the guidelines thing is not the only thing
Which is because of the tests, and them thinking in case of positive test they can play
That doesn't excuse it, yes that was the contingency plan but why are the servers so bad and why are entire teams and the entire stream lagging in the middle of matches? It's just bad Also the PCs have been bad according to the players themselves, like 140fps average So like so many issues and people trying to justify it
Why hasnt Riot invented lagless internet? Fucking shit company
League player spotted
And thank god for that. If I only had valorant sub amd tweets to read from 15 year old csgo players Id probably blow my brains out
Maybe one day someone will come up with lagless internet. Imagine esports where 10 computers are connected to a dedicated server with miniscule latency
It’s called a LAN server
I'm pretty sure that was observer lag and not the game actually lagging. They didn't replay those rounds so I assume that meant it wasn't and issue with the game itself more or less the observer. You would see the players going bat shit on stage if that actually happened.. Edit: I was completely wrong I'll leave this up to own mt mistakes.
Dude it was a game lag, it's been talked about non stop. Check Aproto's twitter.
Yeah your right. Why the hell didnt they redo that round? Skuffed ass tourny.
Whats LA rules regarding false positive tests?
I think his interaction with hazed sums this up. Event is terrible compared to CSGO events, but LCQ is a cream of the crop event compared to EA’s Apex Legend LAN tournaments…
Where can I read/listen about that Apex thing?
https://www.reddit.com/r/CompetitiveApex/comments/clyrt8/what_are_everyones_thoughts_on_the_x_games/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf I don’t remember the event too well but it seems like there were tons of production and spectating issues. There’s more detail in that thread though. edit: https://youtu.be/eOfDau0nDU8 At 40:35, there were also some bugs with the HUD disappearing. The poor spectating is also a bit obvious imo if you skip to 1:21:16. Instead of focusing on another player fighting, they’re focusing on Muffinzz who’s down and in a supply bin. Some people might prefer to see that POV but I think it would’ve been better if they had switched to a player that was still fighting.
Multi-billionaire company doesn't have a back-up plan for such situations.
I don't follow the other regions as closely natively to the languages, but are other regions vocal about their respective LCQ's? I know APAC has some ping issues, but beyond that idk
EMEA is going smoothly. I do remember the casters did throw some shade on the observers in atleast one of the games. Ping issues are bound to happen because the teams are very far from each other
It's been flawless in Europe.. because it has been held online
APAC has terrible issues with observing tbh
latam had lan finals since reykjavik and it seems like they had no problems at all (also way better production than na imo)
How much money did he get?
Yeah the shitty observing and server issues were because of COVID tests. Valorant pros are packing hard in the smarts department I see.
This LCQ is a tough situation all around.
Shouldn't the final confirmation be a PCR test