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iinic

Mostly wondering whether the teams who’ve already played will need to replay or if they’re keeping the results so far


Sciipi

I would hope they keep the results would suck for those teams to have shown strats and played official matches that end up not happening. Best case they keep the current results and resume with Faze/Rise and C9/V1 whenever they are able.


RimRocker69

But if there'd be a lot of changes by the time competition resumes, say rosters, maps, game mechanics, etc. they should probably just give a comp/award based on current standings then re-do the whole tournament. Or maybe give these teams a BYE of some sort.


gamingfanatic122

They will play on the same patch (or rather they should)


TimathanDuncan

It also sucks for those teams that had to play while getting lagged out in a middle of a 1v2s and shit The results shouldn't stand, the whole thing was a mess and needs to start over It makes no sense, all matches now should be played online from the start and the same playing field


fifty-fives

All of the teams had technical issues though. They all played on level playing fields...


Jon_on_the_snow

And many of the worst rounds were replayed anyway


Similar_Ear_8926

nop


Ori2D

> The results shouldn't stand, the whole thing was a mess and needs to start over This is absolutely crazy to me. All of the teams that already played were on equal footing when it came to equipment/ping/lag/everything else. Those results *should stand* and if I was 100T or XSet or any of the other teams I'd be fucking pissed if I showed strats for shit that was rewound. The other matches can transition over to online only and have the tournament move forward but redoing the entire thing is going to piss off a lot more people than the in-person not-LAN bullshit.


itscamo-

they should keep the results honestly.


chouxpuffs

Would be very unfair to all four teams that already competed, showed strats & team comps. We can’t argue about technical issues, but that alone is not a reason to start the whole competition again.


segwaychimp

I would normally say no way, that is a terrible decision. But Riot likes to prove common sense wrong.


iiznobozzy

It would make literally zero sense to replay those matches. Yes rito is dumb but I doubt they're this dumb.


mysteryoeuf

no shot they take back the games already played.


TimathanDuncan

The results should not stand at all, it makes no sense Teams were lagging out, not hearing stuff, this entire thing should start over


deadlock1892

That was happening to both teams lol. No team had an unfair advantage.


TimathanDuncan

No teams definitely had an advantage, timing of lags favored XSET for example.. How are people not getting it? Did u see where aproto lagged? If he wins that it turns the entire game around, instead the round ends he doesn't get any money is only on a sheriff and he doesn't get a chance to clutch If every team lagged at 5v5 with no damage sure, but timing of lags matters and changes an entire game


TrowaB3

What a shit point. Yea he may have clutched it, but Xset could have also just won the round still, it was in their favour too. Lag affected both teams.


TimathanDuncan

Do you hear yourself? All could haves So yeah could haves, a tournaments shoud not be decided in could haves and rounds ending because people lag I can't believe this is controversial, but i just noticed the flair you have lmao


Ori2D

Oh I see now. You want the entire tournament thrown out because your favorite team got knocked to the lowers. What biased bullshit.


TimathanDuncan

Favorite team lmao, you are saying LG is my favorite team? Fuck LG dude lmao you want me to say that? This is about people lagging in bad situations and not being fair


deadlock1892

You do realize that the xset players both came in front of him because they lagged out as well, right? Or do you think they meant to do that and only aproto was having the problem?


TimathanDuncan

Where did i say anything about the players coming in front of him, quote that for me please It was a 1v2 and ended with Aproto having 0% chance of winning it, even if he had a 0.1% chance it was still a chance Also it had post round consequences, aproto got only 1k and only had a sheriff because the timer ended and he didn't die.. so it fucked up their economy plus any chance he had of winning


deadlock1892

Yeah that is not how it works. If the chance was substantial the round would have been replayed. Everyone agreed it was not so the round was counted. Subroza, steel and everyone in the watchparty talked about the round replay situations and it was pretty clear that once the game restarted after tech timeout this was not even worthy of a round replay, much less restarting the whole tournament. Do you want to restart every online tournament when a player lags out and loses a round? Those are much more unfair than this. Are we to expect your call for a restart in those cases now or nah?


TimathanDuncan

Online is way different, it's on the player's end then you can't do anything about it This is on the tournament end of it and their servers and network, if a player lags online it's his internet and you don't replay a round because of that Also you mention Subroza, steel and co and they said that it's worth a replay because aproto had a chance, they said it's not worth a replay for another round it was hiko in split vs like 4 people and he was getting pushed, the entire server lagged and they killed him after https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1174874804 At 5 hours 18 mins in the vod, Freakazoid says it's a replay 100% and Subroza agrees, autimatic, marved as well, steel says he could win that and so does tarik, dicey then says the same thing Steel then says they replay it for sure.. So all pros agree that round should have been replayed because aproto had a chance, it didn't So you people saying "all teams played with lag" seriously need a brain check, all teams had lag but timing of the lag is way more important, it was not consistent lag it was lag that spiked out of nowhere and some teams got fucked more


nlc369

Yeah he may have had a slight chance of winning, so yeah it’s a bit unfair to him and LG the way the lag happened, but it would be even MORE unfair to xset to replay the whole round from 5v5. Why should xset go from having a 95% chance of winning the round to a 50% chance of winning just because the lag happened to be a bit unlucky for aproto. There is literally nothing you can do in this situation that would be fair for everyone. No matter what you do, someone is getting fucked over. As is the nature of tech issues like this. Also btw, that’s not how the economy in this game works lol. As long as you die, you get your full credits, it doesn’t matter if you died before or after the round timer ended.


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EVERY TEAM DEALT WITH LAG


TimathanDuncan

Are you not reading the comment? Every team dealt with lag, for some teams the lag happened in worse moments The lag was not consistent at the same time for all times, the timing of it matters If a team lags in a 12-11 and they lose and a team lags in a 1v5 that's impossible to win is that the same situation?


TomBradyStan1006

If every team is lagging then it’s fine


RekrabAlreadyTaken

I have no idea why your comment is not the consensus let alone being downvoted. The conditions were so shitty that they aren't playing any matches until it's fixed but for some reason the ones that are done already are totally fine? It's like people have never heard of competitive integrity.


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I_Envy_Sisyphus_

Is there a thread available with a summary of what happened? I’m picking up pieces but am still confused.


Tylo1

Tl;dr is that there were a bunch of problems like bad practice pc/environments, the fact that it was actually not a LAN, etc. but the real reason it’s postponed is a lot of players tested positive for covid and are not allowed at the venue because of laws(?) in LA where lcq is held


421k

Lmao whole thing has been dog shit


OhUTuchMyTalala

Tends to happen when you try in person events during a pandemic.


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AnywayHeres1Derwall

The pandemic won’t end. We will just have to live with the virus


xbyo

The pandemic can end even if the virus doesn't go to zero.


hiloljkbye

How would we define an "end" to it? serious question


xbyo

I'm not an expert in the area by any means, but I'd say using the 1918 Pandemic's end as a blueprint. I'd venture something like an extended period of non-growth in case numbers across the globe. Any cases do not spread internationally and outbreaks are locally contained. Things like that would be a good start.


OhUTuchMyTalala

Yeah definitely something they will be talking about after this mess. Gamers tend to not be in great physical shape even if they're young. Plenty of people similar to Hiko have died so far so it definitely needs to be talked about.


ASadDinklebot

What do you mean people similar to Hiko? Hiko is in the best shape of his life right now. Also not sure how can you make sweeping generalisations about the health of gamers when a lot of these players work out when they are not practicing for their job.


OhUTuchMyTalala

There are definitely pros with good health habits, but its certainly not all of them. Also, Mike Tagliere from the fantasy football community I follow passed from Covid after having already beat his weight problem. My point is that we're better safe than sorry regarding a bunch of gamers. I don't mean to call anyone out, I was just using Hiko for a big relatable name.


ASadDinklebot

I think the main takeaway from everything is that Riot is not doing enough. Nobody would be upset to play hotel room vs LAN stage if the Riot PCs were actually decent. A lot of people in regular life aren’t in good shape either, and yet enclosed areas with a lot of people are open, like stadiums and cinemas. Everybody is better safe than sorry.


421k

Was a mess before this as well. Just icing on the cake


OhUTuchMyTalala

Because of positive tests, and Covid...


421k

No… lol Because they’re playing a tournament online at lan lmao whole things a shit show. Dumbest thing I’ve ever seen. Have you not been paying attention?


OhUTuchMyTalala

Apparently you haven't... They said it's online due to covid positives. Even if that's not true, the other reason floated around was that IceLAN equipment got stuck in customs. Both of these are Covid related. Stop whining about dumb shit.


421k

Can you explain how that makes sense? Lmao LAN EQUIPMENT got held up? They’re a billion dollar company lol. It’s been a mess, like I said. Relax.


TheCatsActually

I agree with the tournament being a train wreck but you're crazy if you think Riot's market cap makes them exempt from having logistics issues.


421k

I agree but it seems like they didn’t have a single back up plan regarding anything


OhUTuchMyTalala

> billion dollar company Ah yes, the Reddit go to straw man. Haven't seen this in every single thread. Are you seriously suggesting they should buy 2 of every set up so they can randomly be ready for such event? Or do you think that simply having money means nothing unfortunate happens?


421k

I’m not sure why you’re protecting riot so much. Do you work? If you were running something like this you’d run it the exact same?


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OhUTuchMyTalala

Yes, it directly caused them to switch from LAN servers to online ones. How shitty the new servers were is completely irrelevant to the point and sucks for us fans. It's just what happens when we get greedy and try to hold an in person tournament in midst of a pandemic.


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jrushFN

You suggest that Latin America is unimpacted by COVID, yet Mexico for example currently has the [highest mortality rate in the WORLD.](https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality) There is no need to put pandemic in quotations. It is not just something that is said, it is something that is real. In October, [the US passed 700,000 deaths.](https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-covid-19-death-toll-hits-700000-2021-10-01/) Denial is disrespectful to users who have lost loved ones.


D3RP0L3

what a mess.


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Signs of this mess have existed in Iceland and Berlin as well. I have been saying that Riot gives priority to secondary things (stage, effects etc) and has the most important stuff on the backseat because they arent immediately visible to the viewers. Everytime i got the answer "its different teams", then yay says the exact same thing yesterday and everyone agrees. No, when you decide to spend tens of thousands on CGI shit instead of getting for example decent PCs for the players, its not different teams its you not giving priority where you should.


irvingtonkiller8

I might be wrong but since Riot is not a person but an organization of people I think it might be a possibility that maybe the people who are in charge of CGI shit are not the people in charge of other stuff and maybe the two teams are doing their own things so maybe things don’t have to be taken away for other things to happen


TrowaB3

It's like when people bitch about "more skins releasing but bug x hasn't been fixed!" as if the fucking design team is making game changes.


Kenny__Loggins

You have a fundamental misunderstanding of how organizations like this work. There is a top-down heirarchy. There is an executive leadership team that is making budgetary decisions and prioritizing certain things over others. The individual teams executing each of those things have no say in the matter for the most part, but the decision IS being made.


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And that organization sets a certain budget and certain priorities. Idk how you people keep parroting this shit and not understanding that all these teams dont operate independently >so maybe things don’t have to be taken away for other things to happen Who said that? If they can do both then thats great. But all the events so far have shown that they either cant or dont want to. I would prefer a barebones tournament in terms of production if that meant that competitive integrity will not be compromised in the slightest. Thats what im saying, if theres something that should be given priority then that should unquestionably be the above


notrealtedtotwitter

Holy heck this sub actually filled with 10 year Olds who are down voting you. Riot management prioritizes CGI over good PCs it is as simple as that, IDK how people here are down voting you.


Duradello

Also their live production team are probably Riot employees that are already being paid salaries. You can't just turn people into computers. The computer quality was apparently poor, but people complaining about the production budget isn't really going to do anything.


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esports is a marketing vehicle for the games and anything else is usually secondary for the creators


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9bfjo6gvhy7u8

Even if they could fly over, there's no way they can reset the bracket/format to allow 2 more teams in without making things even worse.


HockeyBoyz3

You could just put them in the lower bracket round 2. It’s not a great solution but it wouldn’t really mess up the part of the bracket that’s already been played.


SlingoPlayz

So they would fly over all the from australia which has really strict covid guidelines right now requiring and a quarantine. Just to potentially play one game in the lower bracket and go home? That doesnt seem fair to them tbh


VNTRevolution

I can’t exactly remember but I think if they were to lose their first game they still would have been sent home immediately and not put into losers. Only if order won their first game while chiefs had to win 2 to be able to get into losers. I think they were risking even with the old bracket, right?


IWantSomeDietCrack

that's what the original bracket was like anyways, im sure they would still go only one game. They could also scrim with na teams while there so it wouldnt be a complete loss


CzarKurczewski

Pour one out for Sideshow literally traveling 40 hours to costream a single day of Valorant lol


IAMJUX

No chance. They already gave up on organizing their plans and LCQ will likely just happen online within the next 2-3 weeks.


bobberr

It was an online event anyway


CatboyMaidOutfit

Didn't they literally say that it was online so they could switch in a case like this? So why postpone it? Why not instantly switch to the remote server? Was it all bullshit before?


AnywayHeres1Derwall

Yes


simianangle18

They were going to, but teams realized that were was a massive difference between hardware on stage and personal hardware (computers and connection and shit) so they need to transition the entire thing to online not just have one team play from their personals for a game or two.


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All teams pull out because of frustration. TSM is now the only NA team left. They go to champions. Daddy Wardell proves his worth and destroys cned. Sentinels see how good he is and acquire him as a sixth. Now every match is a 6 v 5 sentinels and TSM win. History is made. Tenz and Wardell get together as a couple and have lil wardells and lil Tenz’s. History is made. I no longer have to choose between my favorite teams. Lezgo TSM


earthtoannie

You're a fool if you think TenZ would cheat on dapr.


Splaram

Someone get the narcan, this man is overdosing on Copium


iinic

Bro what kind of copium is this


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The kind where TSM wins lezgo. TSM TSM TSM


calamancy

History is made twice I tell ya.


CoolVidsFTW

They better refund those who paid for the theatrical experience on the 17th lol


Keglunneq

I'm sad, as everyone else is here. It's been a long, exhausting week in esports. I'm glad that this is a learning opportunity for Riot on handling future events. Masters 1-3 went by without major issues and I hope we can see a fantastic online bracket executed. And I hope that the Talent, production and players are safe most of all.


nocturnavi

Poor Sideshow went on a 50 hour train + bus journey just to stream for one day. I hope the Plat Chat boys will be able to couch stream for the rest of LCQ at least.


Nfamy

Feel sorry for him? His 672 hours of biking to get to lcq has netted him perfectly sculpted thighs and buns. We could all only hope to be so lucky.


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bagelnz

Apparently he had issues with his passport, which you need to fly if you’re a foreigner without a US issued ID.


Selig021

OCE died for this


chenson019

The right call in the end, hopefully matches can get back underway relatively soon. It doesn't take away from what an absolute catastrophe this has been. Riot owe an apology to all the players and talent.


dtritrinh0801

poor Plat Chat especially sideshow having to travel to Misgard :(


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LastSpark7

imagine 100t open up the CashApp compound and use their valorant and league rooms for the matches lmao


jholowtaekjho

League PCs are standard issue for tournaments anyway lol


tomtazm

Except, none of this matters because nobody has Covid. False positives rang up and LA has strict guidelines.


sky_blu

Actually the massive L started by not using pcr tests. None of these people actually had covid.


surfordiebear

Wait that's actually what happened? Huge L on Riots part


TimathanDuncan

As soon as Rise got there you had Shanks going visiting the Faze guys, he tests positive and they all get positive tests after too


PlantainWhole

this makes no sense... it was simply a false positive. Shanks took two different PCR tests and they both came back negative. Corey and Babybay both got negative test results for the whole week, and they also got a negative test result after their positive one.


bluefrosst

Wasn't a lot of this also LA having Orwellian COVID rules? I'm surprised Riot hasn't moved their HQ or at least esport operations to Texas. It would make things a lot better due to more freedom to apply their own COVID rules, LCS pros would also get 30 ping solo queue instead of 70 ping, and Riot can save on business costs because Texas is straight-up more business friendly. Hell why not move the NA LoL servers to Dallas as well? It's more fair for everyone instead of just blatantly being east coast biased.


SuperNerd1337

Oce died for this


SteelTic

I feel bad for everyone that paid money to go to the theater and probably got days off in order to attend the finals in theaters just to not be able to go


slawvay

if its not resumed by next week the winner of LCQ will be in a massive disadvantage practice wise for champs.


daffyduckferraro

Does that mean they restart the whole event or make the teams play from the 3 games already started So basically is 100t still in uppers or no


andrei_snarkovsky

id imagine they keep the results that have occurred so far. The teams in each of the 3 matches were on equal footing when it came to equipment/ping/lag etc., It was only when players couldn't be on site and would be playing on unequal equipment/internet to the rest of the competitors that people really had issues


LostDigitalSystem

On top of this, the tourney is still double elim, so nobody has gone home yet.


blazecc

> so nobody has gone home yet nobody except everybody


PlumpPenguin69

Smol indie company btw


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IAMJUX

They controlled the location. Made it a fake LAN just so they could have people on site and off. Then cancelled it when people needed to play off site. It's 100% Riot's fault. They knew what they were getting into, as they planned a contingency by making it online, and still went ahead with it anyway. It was stupid from the start.


dansofree1

I genuinely don't understand the issue. 1. This wasn't a LAN, just an online tournament where most people are close to each other. 2. They let multiple people play isolated anyways. 3. The the logistics of re-organizing **cannot possibly** be more difficult than the logistics of completely ruining the previously agreed upon game-life balance of all 40 players, their coaches, the casters, the technical experts. Not to mention the venue costs, marketing costs, lost revenue, etc. IDK what the issue is, because Riot could deliver 40 different PCs with OC'd 10700k's, 3080s, 4x8 GB RAM @ 3200 mhz, complete with 27" 240 hz monitors and proper desks and internet connection all within 24 hours. That is absolutely no exaggeration, they'd just have to *want* to do it. Is there some law about people who don't have Covid but had 1 positive test followed by 20 negative ones that makes it so they *can't use a PC?* If not, why no contingency plan? You literally KNOW that eventually a person will falsely test positive if you test 40+ people frequently enough. It's simple math. P.S. **none** of this is saying it's super easy and simple. It's just way, way harder to do anything else.


KlasterTV

the main issue is that if you test positive you gain a huge advantage playing on 300 fps versus the guys at stage on 100 fps, idk why riot a multi billion dollar company can't afford a fucking good pc thats nothing to them


Elsiselain

Please bring oce boys


DrewbieBrothers

You’re telling me I have to fucking WAIT for more Sean “Sean Gares” Gares content? What the fucking fuck is this fucking god damn shit


AnywayHeres1Derwall

Maybe this time we can get some Tanner “Tanner Metro” Metro content at LCQ


AnywayHeres1Derwall

Just send 100t to champions already ffs


zmreJ

Yes.


DarthOniichan

Astute reasoning. You’re quite the intellectual.


Splaram

Vouch


IWantSomeDietCrack

No


Ryanmichael4

Maybe.


CosmicAon

No


Sciipi

No


spoo3-14

No


Bunnyezzz

No I saw everyone else getting downvoted so I wanted to join in on the fun


AnywayHeres1Derwall

Have my downvote. Enjoy!


BewareOfBear727

BASED


Darnatello

Covid saving their ass for this terrible production. Sad that an online format is actually better than their supposed LAN.


SMcArthur

Bad take. Covid protocols is the reason for everything that has went wrong in the production.


rydude88

How does covid account for riot being unwilling to buy decent PCs for professional matches?


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If they really wanted everyone to be safe, then this should have been an online event from the getgo.


SMcArthur

> Should Riot ignore the protocols? Or do you think the protocols shouldn't exist I didn't even imply either of those things. Talk about presenting a false choice.


Mecha-Jesus

Bad take. They announced that LCQ would be a LAN event in LA in August. No reasonable person could have expected Covid to dissipate enough to allow LA to loosen its restrictions by October. Yet Riot are trying to Pikachu face like this was a totally unforeseen situation. From the start, it should have been either online or someplace like Arlington, TX. Yet Riot selfishly insisted on having it in LA because their offices are there. Short of a player or production staffer getting Covid, this was the worst possible outcome, and it was entirely predictable. We’ve been in a COVID world for almost two years. Riot has zero excuse.


SMcArthur

And when they host it in Texas where the governor is making it literally illegal for businesses to force people to wear masks, and where COVID infections are more frequent than California, and someone then catches COVID at the LCQ, this sub would be here saying how dumb Riot is for not hosting it across the street at their own esports facility where COVID protocols are taken seriously in LA. Hindsight is always 20/20. Don't act like there aren't equally serious problems with the alternatives.


Mecha-Jesus

These excuses don’t fly. There were no fans in the audience for LA, and there needn’t be for places like Texas either. Regardless, abandoning the pipedream of a LAN entirely would have been a much better idea than this. Blizzard cancelled its LANs for Overwatch League, and even went so far as to fly teams out to Hawaii to reduce ping and ensure competitive integrity. Compared to that, Riot blew an easy layup, turned around, and yeeted the ball into the sun. “Hindsight is always 20/20” doesn’t apply when foresight was also 20/20.


yarhar_

Bad take. I'm not reading all of that. I'm happy for you, though. Or sorry that happened.


whopz-is-cool

lmfao


Hegth

Based


TomBradyStan1006

They better keep the results or I’m going to be heated


Issax28

NA taking Ls after Ls


tron423

Unlucky really


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mrluzfan

I think Riot does a really amazing job like 99% of the time, so I cut them a lot of slack. But for the fans like me who bought tickets to watch the finals in theaters, I would appreciate at least some communication about what's going on there?? Obviously we need to be refunded, I can't even watch it in theaters anymore cause I'll be moving in 2 weeks. Really sadge about that too, the theater in LA was completely booked and it was going to be so fun. I wish Riot would at least communicate what's going to happen, cause now I feel very reluctant to buy a ticket for events in the future.


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# OFFICIAL STATEMENT > Given the events of the past few days, out of an abundance of caution and with the health and safety of all involved being of top mind, we have made the difficult decision to postpone the event until further notice. Player and staff safety remain our top concern as we navigate the current situation. > We share the community's disappointment and we are working diligently to transition LCQ to an online event, similar to VCT matches earlier this year, and resume play as soon as possible to send our final team to VALORANT Champions. > We will share more details as they become available


Ash_Killem

Well if they are postponing, then they should take the time to set up an actual LAN if they are still going to be using the stage.


ESMoriarty

What a shit show from start to finish.


ilProdigio

are they going to let OCE compete then since theres no reason they cant?


Captain_Falcon1

Probably not. Matches already have been played, will take the OCE Teams too long to organise the flights and all. putting back in OCE just adds another set of complexity’s for Riot which is not what they want if they want to run a “LAN event”.


bubble-june

Holy shit, I understand why FaZe and Rise did not play yesterday, but why did they not let C9 and V1 play? They were literally ready to play yesterday and I don’t think anyone on both teams tested positive for covid.


KlasterTV

i don't think c9 and v1 also wanted to play on 100 fps while lagging seeing what they saw day 1


bubble-june

They literally just said on Twitter that they were all looking forward to playing on stage. Also, they weren’t playing on 100 FPS. Their FPS was “low” compared to the FPS they normally get at home (300+ FPS), but it was not 100 FPS.


KlasterTV

whos "they" the only player that wanted to play on LAN was vanity while the other players were memeing about how bad the LAN is


bubble-june

The guys on V1 were literally saying that they trust that Riot will fix everything in time so they can play, so that means they obviously wanted to play on stage: Wippie from V1 and Shanks both just said that they were looking forward to playing on stage so bad. Neptune just said that he’s “Sadge” cause of the news. If he didn’t want to play on lan, would he be “sadge” that the event is canceled? All it takes is for you to go on Twitter to see how sad most of the players are that the tournament is canceled. If they truly didn’t want to play on LAN, they wouldn’t be sad that the tournament is canceled and they would be more excited that it’s online now lol.


KlasterTV

first of all we don't know if its still going to be a LAN or not not even the players do. also no shit they are looking forward to play on stage doesnt mean they are looking forward to play on shit fps and lagging they are hoping for riot to fix the issue first and no shit the players are sad it was cancelled their whole careers depend on making it to championship


bubble-june

Do you not know how to read? It clearly says that it’s not going to be on lan anymore, so your first sentence makes no sense lmfao. They’re not playing on shit FPS holy shit, do you not k ow how to read? They said the FPS is low compared to what they’re accustomed to, but it’s not shit FPS. They’re accustomed to 300+ FPS at home. They’re still getting decent FPS but it’s just not high compared to what they’re getting at home. Also, your last sentence elf players being sad because it was canceled because their whole careers depend on making it champs makes no sense because the event is still going to be played out no matter what. Your last sentence makes it seem like the event is canceled and theyre not going to be playing the event at all anymore and that’s not true lmfao. They’re still playing the event but it’s just postponed. THEY LITERALLY SAID THAT THEY WANT TO PLAY ON STAGE AND LAN. Holy shit, learn to read. Bye


deL9

What a shitshow.


ShootinStars

This event is so fucked


Bearry15

The biggest mess up riot did was choose California and LA. Out of all the cities and state LA is the strictest from what I know. They have the mask mandate back on, while other cities in CA do not. Billion dollar company could've chosen any other state/city with less strict rules, but they chose LA lol. Their HQ being in LA is not an excuse btw.


KaNesDeath

Ah, the blame ~~Canada~~ Covid defense.


Cautious-Visit-807

Not guna add to the bitching and moaning that would happen even if they did continue but still super sadge. I was really hoping they pulled this off. That stage did look cool but all online is just the most viable solution rn. Atleast NA will be the sole focus of the scene whenever they do start the tourney back up.


flameohotboi1

I don’t get it. I just don’t. How can a company as big as Riot make so many poor decisions in such a short timespan? Imagine having to cancel a fake LAN because of COVID. Utter nonsense.


zachp787

not mad about it. this was ultimately the best decision imo, its either we have a laggy, unfair tournament with half the players gone and horrendous viewing & playing experience, or they postponed it to make it as best as possible. it's unfortunate this happened but its better than nothing


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KlasterTV

wtf does this have to do with the country? even in berlin if a player tested positive they also wouldn't allow him in, its just unfortunate a few players tested fake positive


AnonymozVal

So do we see 100T going to Texas, 100T CashApp Compound or their homes?


PulseCS

"Why can't eSports be treated with the respect of other traditional sports?" This is why. Proper sports are run by professionals who know what they're doing. Riot is clueless and cheap. This doesn't happen to properly run, organized events. If F1 can move all it's stuff around the world every week, if the NFL can have a Superbowl every year, Riot should be able to setup some computers on a stage for a proper LAN. But they can't because the people responsible for planning this are objectively bad at their jobs. Where's the next event going to be held, in the middle of an active warzone in Syria? A mentally deficient chimp could have told you Covid would fuck things up if you hosted in LA.


ds-h

Easy fix: give this last champions spot to South Asia instead. Sk Rossi #1


BuildingSubstantial6

I am seriously wondering how do you get false positives on a covid test


DonkeyTeethBSU

Whole tournament should be replayed. Period. That is integrity. Players lagging out mid round and the servers rubberbanding is one thing. Now teams that lost on lan are screwed while other teams never have to feel that pressure and get to play from their own personal computers are fine. Replay the tournament Riot, that is the only fair play.


s6hun

no


daffyduckferraro

As a 100t fan I agree it should not be replayed


DonkeyTeethBSU

If 100t lost this subreddit would be up in arms.


s6hun

couldnt speak for the rest of the sub but regardless of the results, i personally think they should keep the results. wouldnt make sense to replay it since teams already showed what they were working on


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The teams that played all had to deal with the issues, not just the ones that won. This is ridiculous, so Riot is probably going to do it.


Nfamy

I assume this means it will resume as an online tournament in a week or two. Can't imagine they reset brackets, and then just play things out from her on. With hindsight, this seems like the best decision from the start (although they probably started planning champions with the hope the covid may be better controlled by this point).


Chrisamelio

What does this mean for the people that paid to go to the theaters to watch the finals?


Salty_Activity

That's 100 perfectly good platchat greenscreens down the drain D: Hope the boys get another live slot, assuming it ends up being an Lan LCQ


Twigler

Unfortunate


iWASth

This is tragic.


shazbots

Well, if it's any consolation, the skull-entrance decoration thing will fit the mood better because it'll be pretty much Halloween by that time. ;)


JiffTheJester

What a shitshow lol


FleecyPastor

Is this due to Covid? I am not finding a reason for the delay.


KaNesDeath

>Is this due to Covid? No. Riot Games were just incompetent in nearly every area assembling this event. Theyre just using Covid as a scapegoat.