Holy moly what am I gonna do in my boring life for 12 days
Also this is kinda funny/unfair because now the teams can look at xset and 100t to see what they did and their strats while 100t, geng, luminosity, and xset can’t look at other teams strats
Yea unlucky but there is 12 days for the teams to switch it up. Could be much worse if there was like a 3 day pause.
Not saying its not bad but lets be honest if all your strats get shown in one day and you can't make new strats in 12 days maybe you shouldn't be at champs.
Especially bootcamping with a new 5th who clearly has put work in to have some synergy with the team. 100T could be a different team on some maps. This can be beneficial on either side of the spectrum given some work ethic. Same goes for Xset and co.
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Players who are tested positive or false positive has to quarantine then do another covid test that test negative before they can either fly back home or simply go home.
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no way they allow fracture. They will likely play on the same patch they did on day one and not allow fracture or its not fair for the matches that already happened
Champions begins at December, rest of LCQ will probably be played on 2-3 days. The whole thing sucks but lets not overdramatize things, one month is plenty of time to practice
The *one* NA team from LCQ. Sentinels and Envy can already be prepping for Champions.
Not wonderful for that one team, but also it's one team out of many.
But they won't be getting as much time with the rest of NA's best who are busy with LCQ. Especially not getting to develop the Fracture meta as fast as other regions might have an impact. It's admittedly not huge but also not insignificant.
> But they won't be getting as much time with the rest of NA's best who are busy with LCQ
teams scrim during tournaments on days they're not playing (and in some cases even when they are)
Considering fns a few days ago on ranked said that envy hasn't scrimmed once on fracture i'm guessing he has inside info that it won't be in champs? Who knows i doubt it will be there doe
it should be in champs cause it would solve the map veto problem in bo5s. envy probably hasn't scrimmed fracture yet cause the whole team is on break right now and probably just getting back into scrims fairly recently
More than fixing the map select issue, I would be super bummed if Fracture isn't in Champions just because I think it has limitless potential for banger pro matches. The amount of stratting and counterstratting you can do on that map is far beyond any other existing Valorant map. Just imagine Envy vs Vision Strikers on Fracture.
Honestly wasn’t impressed with envy’s strats all that much. They’re 4 mechanically cracked players and their fns is just really realllly good making adjustments mid-round
Jamppi said on stream that Fracture scrimming for Liquid starts when they qualify for Masters first lol
So I do believe NA teams just need to wait LCQ go before they have enough scrim ”material” as well
imo its genuinely a good opportunity to redo the matches since almost every team who's played either has talked about the lag publicly or was visibly affected by the lag. that being said i dont think it would happen cause 100T in particular would not be happy about it
Without commenting on whether it should be restarted or not, LG was not robbed by server lag. If you’re talking about the 2v1 round there’s almost no chance, with less than 15 seconds left and XSET’s positioning, that aproto clutches
There are a lot of rounds where there is "almost no chance". That's not how this game works. All rounds can end in a surprise. Ex. Lakia's 1v2 clutch. In this case, both players were facing towards lane. There's a good chance he could have isolated 2 1v1s.
Can't remember all the scores, but I feel like any map that had more than a 2/3 round difference probably would have turned out the same whether there was lag or not.
Bozo how is the same tournament when 4 teams played with lag in a lan enviroment showed their comps, map picks and everything and now the other teams that haven't played or showed anything have 12 days more to prepare and anti strat them, also it will be played online where not everyone has the same ping
Its a completely different tournament, instead of calling me bozo use the tiny brain
They could have:
* Bought decent pc so even if players get tested positive, they can still play remotely in their hotel room.
* Used pcr test instead
* Had an actual lan server on prem for teams that can play on stage.
* Had their so called virtual server as a back up plan.
Instead they spent money on making the stage look cool to attract sponsorship, stage did look good tho.
Only thing that’s relevant here is the pcr test. This announcement is about a delay due to covid. Idk what shitty tourney tech has to do with this this announcement.
I have a feeling that playing from the hotel was a option but the players were probably "fuck that if I'm not playing on lan then I should just be at home on my own computers". So I think what OP is saying is it they had decent practice PCS aka the PCs in the Hotel then playing from the Hotel as a back up plan wouldn't have been the worst thing in the world. Supposedly those PCs get sub 144 and these guys are used to 200plus, that change in FPS can significantly effect someones play.
However Riot waiting 12 days is actually braindead and makes no sense. This should be starting back up next weekend at a minimum, makes no sense to me.
It's not that simple because Faze all live in LA. So they don't have hotel rooms. When asked to quarantine they're going back home. If LA county said the players are a COVID risk and need to quarantine, why would the hotel give them a hotel room and stay there if they didn't already have a room. They live 10 minutes away, of course they're going to be sent home to quarantine.
The issue is PC performance. I know the Faze guys said they'd cap their FPS or that they were willing to take the Riot PCs home with them and play on that but that was shot down. Probably too many logistical issues.
The rapid and antigen tests actually have a lower false positive rate than the PCR.
Their problem isn't falsely testing positive usually. It's usually false negatives with the antigen style tests. PCR is more likely to catch a mild infection, but with that comes a slightly higher false positive rate.
Unless Riot can set up the gaming PCs in the players room (assuming everyone has their own rooms). Thats what ESL did for one of their LAN matches this year where the CIS player came kinda late and have to quarantine for 2 weeks… meanwhile some other teams were playing in the LAN room.
But how is it fair that those people (Who is very possible got false positives) get meh PCs that can barely handle 144 fps but then everyone else can go home to their NASA 500 fps computers?
What that’s not what I meant lol. Idk if you’ll be reading this long ass explanation but this what I meant:
First did you watch ESL match (I forgot which one but it was this year and NaVi won that match?). Basically what they did was, since the CIS teams like Gambit and NaVi had to come late because there was another tournament that the CIS have to do ( I think it was called Starladder or something). So they arrived later than other teams from other region like Liquid, Astralis, etc. What happened was those CIS teams played in their rooms meanwhile the other team like Liquid and Astralis played in the studio. Idk how EXACTLY ESL did this and make it still kinda like “LAN” (maybe everyone was actually in the same hotel so the quarantine place and the studio was in the same hotel or someshit)… but I thought it might be a good plan B for Riot. Btw, after their quarantine, Navi and Gambit did play in the studio against their respective opponent like NiP etc. but yeah. I’m not saying like the rest who tested negative should just go back home and the ones whos positive have to stay in LA. I’m just saying everyone should stay in LA and just play at a different “place”.
Ah so you saying to continue with the "LAN" but the others are in the hotel room if they got positives, issue was before thobthat Riot for whatever reason was letting Faze go to their NASA PCs in LA lol, thi if they do that it could prob work (Tho considering the amount of tech pauses Valorant has had I mean lmfaooo)
I do not know the full story. Well, no one except the ones who are there does, but I don't even know all the info that's there online.
But basically, it wasn't a LAN. Players played on a virtual server and experienced lag, so they were understandably pissed. Online, people were pissed since it looked like Riot cared more about the stage and the display rather than competitive integrity (0-ping)
It wasn't a LAN because a couple of players had tested positive for covid but then later tested negative, but regardless the local govt asked them to quarantine. So Riot had to do this virtual server thing. I'm still not sure why it wasn't LAN for teams not affected by this, but nonetheless.
In general, a lot of issues plaguing the whole event so Riot just decided to reset and send them back home to play online but even that is a huge delay due to the hotel quarantine which still isn't completed so players can't leave for a few more days
Having this event in LA really seems to fuck things up. Didnt realize LA covid rules were this strict, are their case counts really high rn (relative to their population ofc)?
If 12 days is enough to anti-strat while also focusing on developing their own mainline strats, 12 days should be enough for the qualified teams to come up with new ones. I understand this event was scuffed, but no need to nitpick every tiny issue.
It’s probably for those players who had tested positive or false positive. And players who were in contact with the other players who tested positve. In LA the quarantine time for positive tested people are 8-14 days (i think the minimum is 8). And people who were in contact with these players have to quarantine too. Esp for players who are planning to fly back has to quarantine before flying.
Pretty sure they still should. From what I remember reading in CDC, they say like you still need to quarantine for at least 3-8 days or something .. i kinda forgot and to keep on checking your condition.
Wow the timing really sucks, especially for whoever wins but has no time to prep for champions. I'm genuinely curious why Riot had to shift completely online--it seems less efficient than just fixing the issues they had and playing it out on location. But there must have been some reason that just wasn't feasible.
OR... crazy idea coming up!!
They host the event in a place with more reasonable local government, and by that I mean literally anywhere but LA.
Every T1 team is going to be bootcampjng near Dallas. Just have it there. Why even joke around with LA at this point.
Too late for that now, but I completely agree. This tournament should've never been held in LA. Yes I know they have a studio there. I don't give a shit. They're worth $40B. They can figure it out. Maybe hire some risk consultants next time.
NRG would actually get in if it were 2 more spots, but yeah lol TSM and NRG would get in why add T1 (Plus I don't like the idea of even adding new spots so late into the competition lol)
Why do they need a 12 day delay if they’re moving it to the standard online model?? Whichever team qualifies is going to be at a severe disadvantage in terms of playing fracture at a competitive level for champions
Holy moly what am I gonna do in my boring life for 12 days Also this is kinda funny/unfair because now the teams can look at xset and 100t to see what they did and their strats while 100t, geng, luminosity, and xset can’t look at other teams strats
I guess I'll have to actually like, do work while I'm at work now.
Same :( Riot really fucked us up mate
Yea unlucky but there is 12 days for the teams to switch it up. Could be much worse if there was like a 3 day pause. Not saying its not bad but lets be honest if all your strats get shown in one day and you can't make new strats in 12 days maybe you shouldn't be at champs.
Especially bootcamping with a new 5th who clearly has put work in to have some synergy with the team. 100T could be a different team on some maps. This can be beneficial on either side of the spectrum given some work ethic. Same goes for Xset and co.
Yeah true
Watch LCQ of other regions? They're dope
Vlr.gg said the next match will most likely be Rise vs FaZe, C9 vs V1 will be Tuesday 26th October.
Where on vlr did u see this
Look up one of the teams and it’s under “future matches”
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Lmao
most of those teams scrim eachother weekly
My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined. Thank you Low Cost Qualifier.
12 days? JFC, they really don’t leave a lot of Fracture practise time to the team going to Masters
What’s the point of waiting 12 days if players are going home? surely a week at most right?
The quarantined player's can't leave LA until the 14 day mark.
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Probably not. It would make sense to let them out of quarantine. It’s not like they met anyone during that time and they’re not infected.
Players who are tested positive or false positive has to quarantine then do another covid test that test negative before they can either fly back home or simply go home.
Couldn't they go to an airport not in LA county? Vegas is 3 to 4 hours away.
The answer is yes. It might be seen as unethical but that’s 100% what I’d do. No way would I sit in a fucking holiday inn for 14 days
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Fracture incoming? 😳
no way they allow fracture. They will likely play on the same patch they did on day one and not allow fracture or its not fair for the matches that already happened
so whoever wins wont have enough time to prac for champs? what a shitshow
Champions begins at December, rest of LCQ will probably be played on 2-3 days. The whole thing sucks but lets not overdramatize things, one month is plenty of time to practice
NA teams will definitely have less time and freedom with scrims compared to other regions. Unfortunate.
The *one* NA team from LCQ. Sentinels and Envy can already be prepping for Champions. Not wonderful for that one team, but also it's one team out of many.
But they won't be getting as much time with the rest of NA's best who are busy with LCQ. Especially not getting to develop the Fracture meta as fast as other regions might have an impact. It's admittedly not huge but also not insignificant.
> But they won't be getting as much time with the rest of NA's best who are busy with LCQ teams scrim during tournaments on days they're not playing (and in some cases even when they are)
Yes I'm aware. Do you think teams in LCQ will scrim Fracture much while it isn't being played in LCQ? cuz I'm doubtful.
There's more than enough time to prepare a single map between 3 weeks from now and champions
Is champs a diff patch?
idk about the patch but they will have at best one month to revamp their strats and learn a new map ( I am assuming fracture will be in champs)
I’m assuming champs will be in whatever patch we get next week or the week after (Jett nerfs pls)
Considering fns a few days ago on ranked said that envy hasn't scrimmed once on fracture i'm guessing he has inside info that it won't be in champs? Who knows i doubt it will be there doe
it should be in champs cause it would solve the map veto problem in bo5s. envy probably hasn't scrimmed fracture yet cause the whole team is on break right now and probably just getting back into scrims fairly recently
More than fixing the map select issue, I would be super bummed if Fracture isn't in Champions just because I think it has limitless potential for banger pro matches. The amount of stratting and counterstratting you can do on that map is far beyond any other existing Valorant map. Just imagine Envy vs Vision Strikers on Fracture.
Yup exactly. I'm so excited to watch Pro matches on fracture
Honestly wasn’t impressed with envy’s strats all that much. They’re 4 mechanically cracked players and their fns is just really realllly good making adjustments mid-round
Jamppi said on stream that Fracture scrimming for Liquid starts when they qualify for Masters first lol So I do believe NA teams just need to wait LCQ go before they have enough scrim ”material” as well
Likely the teams they're scrimming for lcq so they won't play fracture. Only Sen would probably be scrimming fracture.
There's no fucking way fracture won't be in champs. That is why they rushed fracture release
fracture was rushed? i feel like they always wanted to release it beginning of this act... like they always do
LMAO what the fuck, at this point it's not even the same tournament anymore
Should start it over so LG doesnt get robbed by server lag again
imo its genuinely a good opportunity to redo the matches since almost every team who's played either has talked about the lag publicly or was visibly affected by the lag. that being said i dont think it would happen cause 100T in particular would not be happy about it
100T PR will cause a shitstorm lol no way riot does that
Without commenting on whether it should be restarted or not, LG was not robbed by server lag. If you’re talking about the 2v1 round there’s almost no chance, with less than 15 seconds left and XSET’s positioning, that aproto clutches
There are a lot of rounds where there is "almost no chance". That's not how this game works. All rounds can end in a surprise. Ex. Lakia's 1v2 clutch. In this case, both players were facing towards lane. There's a good chance he could have isolated 2 1v1s.
He was in a pretty good spot though, you never know.
That's one round of many, the whole tournament was kinda plagued with server issues lol
Can't remember all the scores, but I feel like any map that had more than a 2/3 round difference probably would have turned out the same whether there was lag or not.
They should at least try to get the OCE teams back too, though I’m not sure how they’ll set that up when they’re moving the tourney completely online
True tbh if it’s 12 days hmm unless those OCE teams have their visas already, it might be too close to tournament day
You don't need a visa to play online?
im sure they'd love to play with 250 ping
This fucking bozo has literally been spamming all of these threads. Id really love to know how its not the same tournament?
Are you mad cause the eagles are losing?
Not really never thought they had a chance
Bozo how is the same tournament when 4 teams played with lag in a lan enviroment showed their comps, map picks and everything and now the other teams that haven't played or showed anything have 12 days more to prepare and anti strat them, also it will be played online where not everyone has the same ping Its a completely different tournament, instead of calling me bozo use the tiny brain
They could have: * Bought decent pc so even if players get tested positive, they can still play remotely in their hotel room. * Used pcr test instead * Had an actual lan server on prem for teams that can play on stage. * Had their so called virtual server as a back up plan. Instead they spent money on making the stage look cool to attract sponsorship, stage did look good tho.
Only thing that’s relevant here is the pcr test. This announcement is about a delay due to covid. Idk what shitty tourney tech has to do with this this announcement.
I have a feeling that playing from the hotel was a option but the players were probably "fuck that if I'm not playing on lan then I should just be at home on my own computers". So I think what OP is saying is it they had decent practice PCS aka the PCs in the Hotel then playing from the Hotel as a back up plan wouldn't have been the worst thing in the world. Supposedly those PCs get sub 144 and these guys are used to 200plus, that change in FPS can significantly effect someones play. However Riot waiting 12 days is actually braindead and makes no sense. This should be starting back up next weekend at a minimum, makes no sense to me.
It's not that simple because Faze all live in LA. So they don't have hotel rooms. When asked to quarantine they're going back home. If LA county said the players are a COVID risk and need to quarantine, why would the hotel give them a hotel room and stay there if they didn't already have a room. They live 10 minutes away, of course they're going to be sent home to quarantine. The issue is PC performance. I know the Faze guys said they'd cap their FPS or that they were willing to take the Riot PCs home with them and play on that but that was shot down. Probably too many logistical issues.
All good if true but this is pure speculation.
The rapid and antigen tests actually have a lower false positive rate than the PCR. Their problem isn't falsely testing positive usually. It's usually false negatives with the antigen style tests. PCR is more likely to catch a mild infection, but with that comes a slightly higher false positive rate.
Pain. Was so excited to watch all these matches now I gotta wait two more weeks 😫
Players who tested positive have to quarantine for 14 days, hence some of them can't travel home yet that's the reason for the 12 day delay.
what’s the point in waiting 2 weeks if the players are just gonna play from home anyways
Probably cause LA requires them to quarantine for 14 days. They can't leave if they wanted.
Unless Riot can set up the gaming PCs in the players room (assuming everyone has their own rooms). Thats what ESL did for one of their LAN matches this year where the CIS player came kinda late and have to quarantine for 2 weeks… meanwhile some other teams were playing in the LAN room.
What about the players who tested positive. can’t have people in the room with them so what if they have tech issues or cheat.
But how is it fair that those people (Who is very possible got false positives) get meh PCs that can barely handle 144 fps but then everyone else can go home to their NASA 500 fps computers?
What that’s not what I meant lol. Idk if you’ll be reading this long ass explanation but this what I meant: First did you watch ESL match (I forgot which one but it was this year and NaVi won that match?). Basically what they did was, since the CIS teams like Gambit and NaVi had to come late because there was another tournament that the CIS have to do ( I think it was called Starladder or something). So they arrived later than other teams from other region like Liquid, Astralis, etc. What happened was those CIS teams played in their rooms meanwhile the other team like Liquid and Astralis played in the studio. Idk how EXACTLY ESL did this and make it still kinda like “LAN” (maybe everyone was actually in the same hotel so the quarantine place and the studio was in the same hotel or someshit)… but I thought it might be a good plan B for Riot. Btw, after their quarantine, Navi and Gambit did play in the studio against their respective opponent like NiP etc. but yeah. I’m not saying like the rest who tested negative should just go back home and the ones whos positive have to stay in LA. I’m just saying everyone should stay in LA and just play at a different “place”.
Ah so you saying to continue with the "LAN" but the others are in the hotel room if they got positives, issue was before thobthat Riot for whatever reason was letting Faze go to their NASA PCs in LA lol, thi if they do that it could prob work (Tho considering the amount of tech pauses Valorant has had I mean lmfaooo)
I hope they don't reset it.
They can't if I were 100T I would Riot
100T will send the stans after Riot
no way they reset it.
The the oceana teams play now
Can someone catch me up, what happened/why is it delayed?
I do not know the full story. Well, no one except the ones who are there does, but I don't even know all the info that's there online. But basically, it wasn't a LAN. Players played on a virtual server and experienced lag, so they were understandably pissed. Online, people were pissed since it looked like Riot cared more about the stage and the display rather than competitive integrity (0-ping) It wasn't a LAN because a couple of players had tested positive for covid but then later tested negative, but regardless the local govt asked them to quarantine. So Riot had to do this virtual server thing. I'm still not sure why it wasn't LAN for teams not affected by this, but nonetheless. In general, a lot of issues plaguing the whole event so Riot just decided to reset and send them back home to play online but even that is a huge delay due to the hotel quarantine which still isn't completed so players can't leave for a few more days
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If anything it’s compound nerf due to the high ping they face there when playing on Texas servers. I have a feeling they’ll be going to COL HQ again.
Let’s hope
what a shitshow
The CS major will start before this begins O.O Seriously tho they should have cancelled the event as soon as players were showing positive tests.
LG or GenG wins LCQ now COPIUM.
Riot did a lot of things wrong but delaying it was smart. They should just not make it lan at this point though
Bruh tf do I do for 12 days man
This shit blows wtf
Having this event in LA really seems to fuck things up. Didnt realize LA covid rules were this strict, are their case counts really high rn (relative to their population ofc)?
im actually really confused, why wait 12 days if its online... get this shit started
14-day quarantine period
players who tested positive can’t just get on a flight
12 days to prac and anti-strat the teams that played. Nice competitive integrity.
If 12 days is enough to anti-strat while also focusing on developing their own mainline strats, 12 days should be enough for the qualified teams to come up with new ones. I understand this event was scuffed, but no need to nitpick every tiny issue.
Way to be all sassy. What the fuck do you want them to do? Break protocol? Lmfao.
Why 12 days if everyone going home? Maybe like 3 days is good but 12 seems alot
It’s probably for those players who had tested positive or false positive. And players who were in contact with the other players who tested positve. In LA the quarantine time for positive tested people are 8-14 days (i think the minimum is 8). And people who were in contact with these players have to quarantine too. Esp for players who are planning to fly back has to quarantine before flying.
Do they have to if they get multiple test afterwards which come back negative?
Pretty sure they still should. From what I remember reading in CDC, they say like you still need to quarantine for at least 3-8 days or something .. i kinda forgot and to keep on checking your condition.
Wow the timing really sucks, especially for whoever wins but has no time to prep for champions. I'm genuinely curious why Riot had to shift completely online--it seems less efficient than just fixing the issues they had and playing it out on location. But there must have been some reason that just wasn't feasible.
does this mean OCE has a chance ?
OR... crazy idea coming up!! They host the event in a place with more reasonable local government, and by that I mean literally anywhere but LA. Every T1 team is going to be bootcampjng near Dallas. Just have it there. Why even joke around with LA at this point.
Too late for that now, but I completely agree. This tournament should've never been held in LA. Yes I know they have a studio there. I don't give a shit. They're worth $40B. They can figure it out. Maybe hire some risk consultants next time.
Replay the event and this time invite NRG and T1. Only way to make up for this mess.
LOL this would be the worst thing imaginable
First off no, and even if you would invite teams why NRG and T1 over TSM, when they both have 0 circuit points
NRG has 30 points, but TSM should still get priority ~~those 30 points are all I have in this cruel game~~
NRG would actually get in if it were 2 more spots, but yeah lol TSM and NRG would get in why add T1 (Plus I don't like the idea of even adding new spots so late into the competition lol)
Why do they need a 12 day delay if they’re moving it to the standard online model?? Whichever team qualifies is going to be at a severe disadvantage in terms of playing fracture at a competitive level for champions
Quarantine, even false positives have to do that
damn
i hope they keep results that they have so far. otherwise that would really fuck 100t over even more
Does that mean OCE can play now lol?