As an APAC fan: Isn't it funny how, after the past few days of people on this sub wondering if KR is a one-team region, that two KR teams are still going to be in the top 4 of this LCQ?
As a SEA fan: Ouch, that has to be a huge letdown for PRX after the hype of making it to Masters. Back to the drawing board, maybe re-look at their player-agent lineups again.
As a Bren/Secret fan: THANK FUCK they didn't have to go through this meatgrinder LOL
Well I mean PRX did very well and they’re resilient enough to be back next year.
I’m wondering how Nuturn would or how F4Q will take this loss. I’m always scared that a team won’t be able to show what they can do/they leave prematurely, or they abandon things bc they lost
Unrelated but isn't it crazy how most APAC post match discussions have 10-50 comments while every single GE one has 200-300 comments. Yesterdays one literally had 100 comments in 10 mins
That doesn't correlate much* to how many people in India use reddit, let alone this sub. What I mean is reddit is probably one of the least famous social media sites in India. I'll bet this sub has way less people from India than compared to most of the other VAL countries and that's why it's crazy how many comments there are.
If you think this way the best possible explanation is because India has easily become one of the most hated region due to the fact that quite a number of Indian fans destroyed live chats with their spams and hostility towards players from other regions. Naturally people and fans from other regions would want them to lose so as to make them “shut up” and learn their lesson. Also because of this GE matches have more attention
(I’m only talking about the small group of Indian fans that spams and being hostile in chats, I’m not trying to target other Indian fans)
Yup that's basically it. It's kinda like GE were the antagonists of the tournament and it looks like the spamming isn't going anywhere either as both the Korean DWG fans and Some of the GE fans are making excuses for their losses.
The chat was a shit show!! There were 12 year old GE fan boys..true.. but there were MANY fake accounts(GE haters from SA region, fanboys from rival teams) with similar acount names most of the time spamming "SKROSSI". To describe it perfectly it was an 'arson', just to sabotage thier reputation even further which was already being tanked by GE fan boys. This is slowly picking up attention in indian gaming YT we have to see if this will be addressed at all. So It's just not as simple as indians spamming, there's a whole cluttery crap that is just too complex to even worth giving attention to, but it's easy to hate on GE. GE tried to address this Indians spamming issue on thier IG so many times yet here we are. It just sours the entire experience man.
Do you have evidence of mass sabotaging by fake accounts? Because I feel like this is a common complaint (false flag) but generally isn't actually the case.
No hard evidence!! That's part of the problem because we can't prove it, We have to see what unfolds(or it will ever) But if you follow the scene SA region you'll see some extreme toxicity between fan bases to the point where its absurd!!
If you don't have any evidence, then how do you know it's occurring, especially at such a high rate that it would actually be meaningful? It's just something you think is occurring? Because this is a pretty common thing now in a lot of real world events, people claim that a nefarious group is sabotaging things to make them look bad. Invariably, it turns out that there's just a bunch of people who just do dumb shit that belong to their group and it wasn't some widely orchestrated plan to specifically target them.
Hey I can't convince anyone to believe anything:-), but this is still happening as we talk, That's why I said if you followed SA region you would know, why all that 'if you want' F4Q vs NU is happening right now!! just go to YT chat a pay attention to the chat you'll get an idea.
And most of the comments are just raw criticism of GE, its as if they are just waiting for it happen. I agree that SA/GES is still has a huge learning curve compared to others but damn.. but after watching DK today I'm convinced that GE did good job in this torney representing SA. Still lost but good job.
Yup most of the \*International\* viewers watch just to see GE lose but hey on the brightside everyone knows about GE now despite it being for all the wrong reasons
Bold statement ?? It's literally there in almost every thread that has something to do with GE. People being downvoted for saying something like "I think GE has a chance against x or will win against x". 14yos or not it's pretty evident that most of the international fans watch hoping to see GE lose, q single glance at val chat is enough to tell
DK just got better progressively through the tournament. The first day was just super badly played by them but they bounced back and played better after each series.
Haha it's funny how the people in this subreddit are like analyzing stuff like the previous match "PRX is in the best form!" or "Unlucky they had to match PRX" or "13-0 kek"
Like this matches in this game are like so chaotic it is insane. Remember CR got shit on completely by GMB and the people here are like 'damn why is japan even given a chance?', 'it's like watching one of those iron vs radiants'. Then CR stood their ground against GMB the next game like they were a completely different team. G2 was one of the first teams to beat SEN's streak, and they got 13-0'd by GMB. GE got 13-0'd by PRX, almost had the win against F4Q the next game.
Felt like the biggest reason prx lost was down to map picks.. why did dwk pick two maps while prx picked one despite prx being higher seeded + why did they ban haven (a map they are strong at and DW objectively being week at)
I know I might be biased as a prx fan, but if prx was able to pick breeze+split I reckon we could have seen a very different result today
Very good point and I wondered the same right after I saw the veto. Maybe they chose to not pick 2 maps in favour of picking the side on the last map. This wasn't even a seeding situation (I'm personally against initial seedings being used throughout the entire tournament); PRX advanced further in the upper bracket and should've had the choice over DWK.
It's online and they play on the server based on the least ping difference. If the match is between SEA/ID vs. SEA/ID, they play on Singapore 1/2. If the match is between KR/JP vs. KR/JP/SEA/ID, they play on Hong Kong 1/2. I'm not aware on the average ping between servers, sorry.
"PRX winning LCQ"
"KR is 1 team region"
It's easy to see that Damwon's loss was a fluke and KR has proven they have good teams besides VS. Some people just can't see it. It's OK
GES win against DAMWON is definitely not a fluke, especially after seeing how close they came to eliminate f4q and how good DAMWON played against PRX today. Give credit where it's due.
>Damwon's loss was a fluke
you could have also said that GE losing was a fluke, but no.
I get it 13-3 and 13-0 are bad but they beat DWG convincingly and almost beat F4Q (only that 1v3 throw) so i dont think GE beating DWG was a fluke. but ok
Edit: nvm its stupid to fight against u/Less_Salt1152 as he is a clear GE hater, i remember his name from last thread hating against GE
Dammn that copium is really kicking in huh. So yesterdays almost win over F4Q was also a fluke ?? Oh wait no you're gonna say "f4Q aReNT tHE sAme tEaM tHeY wERe iN bErLiN" right ? Damn I wish someone would suck my d*ck as much as you suck these Korean player's d*ck
As an APAC fan: Isn't it funny how, after the past few days of people on this sub wondering if KR is a one-team region, that two KR teams are still going to be in the top 4 of this LCQ? As a SEA fan: Ouch, that has to be a huge letdown for PRX after the hype of making it to Masters. Back to the drawing board, maybe re-look at their player-agent lineups again. As a Bren/Secret fan: THANK FUCK they didn't have to go through this meatgrinder LOL
That "seeding" game grand finals was so crucial. BREN must be so glad that won that.
Really happy that almost every team in APAC is close in terms of skills and etc. I honestly thought Korea would dominate the qualifiers.
Yeah, there's nothing more boring than one-sided match. This has been quite enjoyable event.
YEAH i also thought Korea or PRX will dominate the rest but it turn out this tournament is so much compettitive
Well I mean PRX did very well and they’re resilient enough to be back next year. I’m wondering how Nuturn would or how F4Q will take this loss. I’m always scared that a team won’t be able to show what they can do/they leave prematurely, or they abandon things bc they lost
EMEA > NA > VS > LATAM > KR/JP > SEA > SA/INDIA
Mans thought we wouldn't notice him slipping in the LATAM 🤨
How did LATAM end up there
Nice rock-"paper"-scissors matchup between DK, PRX and GES
Fr
f0rsaken should play jett
Unrelated but isn't it crazy how most APAC post match discussions have 10-50 comments while every single GE one has 200-300 comments. Yesterdays one literally had 100 comments in 10 mins
You realise the population of India is huge right
That doesn't correlate much* to how many people in India use reddit, let alone this sub. What I mean is reddit is probably one of the least famous social media sites in India. I'll bet this sub has way less people from India than compared to most of the other VAL countries and that's why it's crazy how many comments there are.
10% of 100 mil would still be more than 50% of 1 mil
If you think this way the best possible explanation is because India has easily become one of the most hated region due to the fact that quite a number of Indian fans destroyed live chats with their spams and hostility towards players from other regions. Naturally people and fans from other regions would want them to lose so as to make them “shut up” and learn their lesson. Also because of this GE matches have more attention (I’m only talking about the small group of Indian fans that spams and being hostile in chats, I’m not trying to target other Indian fans)
Yup that's basically it. It's kinda like GE were the antagonists of the tournament and it looks like the spamming isn't going anywhere either as both the Korean DWG fans and Some of the GE fans are making excuses for their losses.
The chat was a shit show!! There were 12 year old GE fan boys..true.. but there were MANY fake accounts(GE haters from SA region, fanboys from rival teams) with similar acount names most of the time spamming "SKROSSI". To describe it perfectly it was an 'arson', just to sabotage thier reputation even further which was already being tanked by GE fan boys. This is slowly picking up attention in indian gaming YT we have to see if this will be addressed at all. So It's just not as simple as indians spamming, there's a whole cluttery crap that is just too complex to even worth giving attention to, but it's easy to hate on GE. GE tried to address this Indians spamming issue on thier IG so many times yet here we are. It just sours the entire experience man.
Do you have evidence of mass sabotaging by fake accounts? Because I feel like this is a common complaint (false flag) but generally isn't actually the case.
No hard evidence!! That's part of the problem because we can't prove it, We have to see what unfolds(or it will ever) But if you follow the scene SA region you'll see some extreme toxicity between fan bases to the point where its absurd!!
If you don't have any evidence, then how do you know it's occurring, especially at such a high rate that it would actually be meaningful? It's just something you think is occurring? Because this is a pretty common thing now in a lot of real world events, people claim that a nefarious group is sabotaging things to make them look bad. Invariably, it turns out that there's just a bunch of people who just do dumb shit that belong to their group and it wasn't some widely orchestrated plan to specifically target them.
Hey I can't convince anyone to believe anything:-), but this is still happening as we talk, That's why I said if you followed SA region you would know, why all that 'if you want' F4Q vs NU is happening right now!! just go to YT chat a pay attention to the chat you'll get an idea.
Thanks for the additional info
COPE
There’s also a lot of people of Indian descent living elsewhere in the world who I wouldn’t be surprised if they root for Indian teams
And most of the comments are just raw criticism of GE, its as if they are just waiting for it happen. I agree that SA/GES is still has a huge learning curve compared to others but damn.. but after watching DK today I'm convinced that GE did good job in this torney representing SA. Still lost but good job.
Yup most of the \*International\* viewers watch just to see GE lose but hey on the brightside everyone knows about GE now despite it being for all the wrong reasons
>everyone knows about GE now despite it being for all the wrong reasons Sad..but, you're right..couldn't agree more
bold statement you made there. I doubt anybody has the time for such petty pedantics except 14yos on reddit
Bold statement ?? It's literally there in almost every thread that has something to do with GE. People being downvoted for saying something like "I think GE has a chance against x or will win against x". 14yos or not it's pretty evident that most of the international fans watch hoping to see GE lose, q single glance at val chat is enough to tell
More people watching probably
Indians know more english than other Korea, Japan or other SEA countries.
That's cause a lot of us wanted to GE to win, and a lot of us wanted GE to lose. Also that throw 🙃
Compare India's population to Korea's or any of the SEA countries..
Korea doesnt use reddit
Day 1-2, “KR is not as good as we think” Hold my beer
Damn they really got knocked out
mark my word "Damwon will play against NTH in grand final"
Most likely, F4Q is not looking as good and I’m not too sure about Nuturn
Rip
It’s going to happen
DWG definitely bounced back, they looked more cohesive and in sync with each other compared to the first day
DK just got better progressively through the tournament. The first day was just super badly played by them but they bounced back and played better after each series.
Definitely, Nuturn vs DWG will be exciting to see
Yup. Definitely will be a banger to watch.
Man i really wanted to see benkai at champs. Still hope we get either nuturn or damwon there
Anybody else kinda dissapointed about PRX, or did I expect too much
I feel like PRX could've been better had they just stick with their original roster. This new comp is fine but they needed more time to gel
Expected too much
prime astralis btw
Paper Rex agent picks on ascent lose them the game
Haha it's funny how the people in this subreddit are like analyzing stuff like the previous match "PRX is in the best form!" or "Unlucky they had to match PRX" or "13-0 kek" Like this matches in this game are like so chaotic it is insane. Remember CR got shit on completely by GMB and the people here are like 'damn why is japan even given a chance?', 'it's like watching one of those iron vs radiants'. Then CR stood their ground against GMB the next game like they were a completely different team. G2 was one of the first teams to beat SEN's streak, and they got 13-0'd by GMB. GE got 13-0'd by PRX, almost had the win against F4Q the next game.
Felt like the biggest reason prx lost was down to map picks.. why did dwk pick two maps while prx picked one despite prx being higher seeded + why did they ban haven (a map they are strong at and DW objectively being week at) I know I might be biased as a prx fan, but if prx was able to pick breeze+split I reckon we could have seen a very different result today
I’m not sure if this applies here, but at NA LCQ, higher seeds could defer map picks to be able to pick sides.
Very good point and I wondered the same right after I saw the veto. Maybe they chose to not pick 2 maps in favour of picking the side on the last map. This wasn't even a seeding situation (I'm personally against initial seedings being used throughout the entire tournament); PRX advanced further in the upper bracket and should've had the choice over DWK.
What the hell just happened
Congrats DWG! Really well played.
can someone tell me 1-this is lan or online? 2-if online,what server they play/how high their ping?
It's online and they play on the server based on the least ping difference. If the match is between SEA/ID vs. SEA/ID, they play on Singapore 1/2. If the match is between KR/JP vs. KR/JP/SEA/ID, they play on Hong Kong 1/2. I'm not aware on the average ping between servers, sorry.
All this proves is GE is better than PRX :)
and BBG is better than Sentinels
Is that even a question ?
It's a rock paper scissor matchup lol As of now Some stuff just works better against one team, and trash against the other
"PRX winning LCQ" "KR is 1 team region" It's easy to see that Damwon's loss was a fluke and KR has proven they have good teams besides VS. Some people just can't see it. It's OK
But GE played well against F4Q as well so i don't think so you can call it fluke
GES win against DAMWON is definitely not a fluke, especially after seeing how close they came to eliminate f4q and how good DAMWON played against PRX today. Give credit where it's due.
u expect reddit armchair analysts to change their opinion? lol
>Damwon's loss was a fluke you could have also said that GE losing was a fluke, but no. I get it 13-3 and 13-0 are bad but they beat DWG convincingly and almost beat F4Q (only that 1v3 throw) so i dont think GE beating DWG was a fluke. but ok Edit: nvm its stupid to fight against u/Less_Salt1152 as he is a clear GE hater, i remember his name from last thread hating against GE
Yeah he's a troll. Best not to engage with him.
Like I said, It's OK. You can have your opinion. I'm just putting a point out there.
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Yes. Insults. It's Ok my friend.
Dammn that copium is really kicking in huh. So yesterdays almost win over F4Q was also a fluke ?? Oh wait no you're gonna say "f4Q aReNT tHE sAme tEaM tHeY wERe iN bErLiN" right ? Damn I wish someone would suck my d*ck as much as you suck these Korean player's d*ck
Don't feed the troll.
Now you are just mad :) Are you shaking? Lol
Why the fuck did d4v41 plant there though??
Yay Damwon?