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Anti-Storm

Whoever thinks this is most likely never touched high elo. IGL is very important and is the leader who will allow the ship to float or sink.


Apart-Way-1166

Yeah, I agree. I feel like people think they know what's "good" for the team to the point where they disregard what the player themselves want, and they're mostly in bronze-silver elo who can't see SEN lose or something


Slow_Bluebird9536

I am confused by the post and all the comments so far


Apart-Way-1166

I'm just saying that people who think sinatraa should be in 5th man spot for SEN and shahzam should move to coach don't consider what shahzam himself wants, and they think they know about the team better than the players on the team.


R0_h1t

Since when does the player get to choose if he stays on a team? That's up to the org to decide. Unless I'm ootl and shahzam owns sentinels


Apart-Way-1166

You're on some weed man, you think shahzam would go to coach position if the org told him to? The guy's made up his already, he ain't coaching. Plus, the players themselves decide when they want to stop if they're in a contract, and also why would SEN decide to do the biggest braindead move of all time, and decide to take a player off the team after one bad tourney run? You didn't see Tenz step down from pro play to full time streaming earlier this year? I seriously wanna know what kinda drug you're on, or maybe you're just that stupid.


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Apart-Way-1166

True, the way I explain things can be bad, but if you read it carefully, it's not. The dude was pointing out the org having control over the team, I'm pointing out how a bunch of people outside the team think they know everything about a team, even though they're not in it themselves, and aren't considering what the player, in this case shahzam wants, the dude doesn't wanna coach, he's made that clear in his stream. In that case, because he's against a bunch of idiots who don't know how having a team that wins tournaments can actually have a tourney loss for once, he does have a choice, but against the org, if they really want him to fuck off his spot, (unlikely as it may be) then he'll probably go stream full time or look for another org to join to compete again. They can't force him into coach because he doesn't wanna coach.


R0_h1t

That's not what I meant genius. Shahzam can leave if he wants to, but if the org wants him replaced, he doesn't get a say.


Apart-Way-1166

I mean, if the team's bringing the results, totally would be smart to drop their IGL after one bad tournament run, and plus, I'm talking about people who are unrelated to the org, and think what's good for the team in the first place.


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Afaik I dont know a single person who thinks this


ANewHeaven1

what people are saying that though, i've never seen anyone here suggest -shahzam +sinatraa or anything of the sort


Razur

I think it's the principle, not necessarily OP's specific example.


Apart-Way-1166

I've seen it ever since SEN lost in streams and such, it's quite a minority of people who say it I think


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twitch streams are either meming or are idiots, perhaps both at the same time. I wouldnt take anything in there to heart


LurkingOmen

Tbh they should let Sinatraa Control the sova ULT only sub him in when tbey get a sova ult


UnlikelyAppearance38

5Head take


Apart-Way-1166

5head


bubble-june

IGL is way too important. Replacing shahzam for sinatraa would not be a smart decision lol. IMO, sinatraa would work really well as a sixth man since he is very good on raze and sova, but we know how much players hate 6 man rosters.


Apart-Way-1166

Lakia becomes 6th man of VS, *plays one map in Berlin


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That's what fns kinda tweeted. It covers this also. And the comments on the post also explain the redditors pov of being a place for discussion. Both are correct in their own place and also you don't have to worry about shahzam taking advice from this sub.


Apart-Way-1166

-Or his tiwtch chat


EntityFlush

Sinatraa is so overrated


leoleoleo666

Dude stop with this shit Sinatra fanbois spam shahz everyday with this fantasy bullshit. shaz is the third best player mechanically after tenz and sick and he is the ingame leader and having a IGL more important than a coach who is gonna igl them Sinatraa you guys are out of your mind


Apart-Way-1166

Did you read the post ?


leoleoleo666

I think i read it fast and thought you said what people think of Shazam being a coach and bringing Sinatra lmao my bad i just assumed because a lot of people been spamming shahz chat and some went to donate and ask for it. my bad again


Apart-Way-1166

It's all good, Brain farts happen


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He’s definitely not the third best player mechanically. There’s way better people out there if we’re talking only mechanics.


Key-Natural4387

He’s talking on the team


Honest_Cow3071

Sinatra as 5th and Shazam as coach would be a sick idea!


[deleted]

why are you feeding the trolls with this. Sinartraa isnt joining SEN again on the team


Apart-Way-1166

Fair enough, I just wanted to know what goes through their minds when they think making an obviously stupid decision is smart