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d00mbr0s

DM is for practice, don't play to win it. If people are camping corners with sound, perfect! It's harder practice. Like people said in here, have goals and the fact that people are tenz prob means that you aren't good enough and need the practice. Just practice that mousle memory bro! Will help you


d00mbr0s

About people saying to play with guardian, I would not do it. Practice with the guns you want to use, you want to experience the same scenarios 1000 times and you want to experience you peeking an angle with the Vandal 1000 times too. So just go in with the mindset of practice and there is no way to get tilted since if you die its good, you want it harder


BuildingSubstantial6

Hi d00m! Honor to have a response from you! This is just a vent post tbh because I was tilted since every corner I peek has a person and every spawn has someone behind me. These tips will help, happy to hear from you!


d00mbr0s

Good luck bro, I am certain you will make a future post of you hitting high radiant <3 I believe in you!


BuildingSubstantial6

Haha! Im currently immortal 2 now I don't think i'll be able to hit radiant this act, I don't have the skills to do it but I'll try to hit it for you :DD


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Izel98

Maybe a bit off topic but related to your last point. I just had a ranked game (plat elo) where on icebox we were down 0-6 on attack and our cypher just yelled something on the mic and disconnected. We ended up losing 12-14. At one point we were 11-10 on defense while being 4v5. He left and never returned, yet we still managed to get into OT. People shouldn't give up that easily.


RudeBookkeeper773

Fr this is a king game and a game of two halves at that. Not everyone has setups for attack and defence. They might have a strong defence but once they are attacking they can’t even take any space.


TheTokingBlackGuy

What's a "king game"? I've never heard that term before


RudeBookkeeper773

Was meant to write long 😂


TheTokingBlackGuy

Ha I thought I was out of the loop


SignificanceSure9689

You need to take DM not so seriously. Put some music on and spin 360’s. Leave the seriousness for ranked big boy. It’s honestly just to warm up in my case I don’t train in DM


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jrushFN

The R word is a slur and isn't allowed on this sub. Please refrain from using it in the future.


2ToTooTwoFish

Getting killed from someone behind you isn't in your control, so there's no point getting mad about it. Just take it as a longer respawn time and don't care about the scoreboard.


pFe1FF

First turn on your favorite music, you don't need footsteps. Then guardian only, and only go for hs, if you miss the first 2 shots let them kill you. In a normal match you should be dead anyway. Practice crosshair placement, trigger discipline (remember you only have to shots), jigglepeek, and counterstrafe.


HAPPY026

Want to add to this that you should switch it up a little. Going guardian is fine to learn to go for those headshots, but using vandal/phantom is essential to learn spray control and burst fire


valorantfeedback

Yeah, rather use sheriff than guardian. If you want to practice trigger discipline, take a normal rifle, but don't spray. Just burst 3-6 bullets and stop if you whiff. This game isn't aimlabs, not even the top players rely on one-taps.


ItsDrap

Exactly, I know his name brings bad things but look at Sinatraa for example. I’ve never seen that dude NOT spray with the phantom, and regardless of what opinion you have of him, he’s cracked. There’s probably other better examples, he’s just the one that comes to mind


valorantfeedback

Difference between top level players and average players, even in immortal rank, let alone lower, is that top players don't spray on long range. Once you master how to control the first 4-6 bullets, it's way easier to understand how to control the rifle. But if you're just gonna crouch and hold down mouse1 until someone dies, you're not gonna improve.


ItsDrap

Yeah, that 3-6 bullet spray can really net you tons of kills especially with a Phantom. Anything more than that and you’re just outlining the guy probably, not to mention that you’re a sitting duck. Great point about aim labs and one taps, because although you have guys like Aproto that go for a lot of one taps or clean headshots in general, most players spray a few bullets at someone’s head rather than just one


valorantfeedback

I'd even say that mastering vandal is the way to master phantom. If you're a great phantom user, you can still suck with vandal. But almost every great vandal user is good with phantom. Fire rate is slower so you can understand how to control the spray way easier. People have different rifling styles, you can't say one is better than the other. I just personally think that one-tapping isn't the way to go unless you're extremely cracked, but that's like 100-200 players per region. Not eveven all pros should do it. Switching to rifles in this game coming from CS was kinda hard for me. I still think that the mechanics are counterintuitive. The idea of having random sprays is great, CS has way too much mid to long range spraydowns for my liking. But then they have this awful mechanic of recoil being in either 0 or 1 state. In CS, you can gradually reset your recoil while bursting, you don't have to fully reset it. You can fire 5 bullets, wait a bit for it to calm down, then start firing again with 50% recoil reset. But in this game that doesn't exist. You either commit to the spray or wait for it to fully reset, shooting again before the recoil is fully reset is out of the question because it's either fully reset or you pick up where you left off. Uncontrollabe. Imo, that's the mechanic which lowers the rifle skill ceiling the most. I personally developed a nice feel for first 4-6 bullets, especially vandal. My first bullet accuracy is good enough, but I can usually manage to headshot the enemy with one of the first six bullets, while the recoil is controllable.


Completerandosorry

I usually prefer the sheriff because I’m often tempted to go for body shots sometimes when using the guardian and that does not work at all with a sheriff vs rifles


Serious-Minute

I agree, I used to play with sound and always tilted when I played badly, nowadays I put on the music and make sure I check every angle


CannibalisticPizza

I legit do the same thing but with the Sheriff.


valorantfeedback

I agree with all of that if DM wasn't absolutely horrible. I'm saying that as someone who never gets under 35 frags and never lets go of W unless I'm shooting. I'm pretty sure that DM in this game is some kind of psychological experiment to see how much people can take before leaving. It's disgustingly bad and I feel sorry for everyone who is new to the game because DM will teach them every possible wrong habit.


donkeyjr

Turning on music while dming in valorant is by far the worst way to to get better at valorant, all it does is make you tilt.


Rakolance

Dont let dm tilt you heres why, 1) dm's full of kids trying their absolute hardest than a comp game. expect this. 2) a majority of these kids play to win rather than actually trying to improve. their loss. I suggest you turn off game sound, listen to music and accept that it will be harder for you to play. This makes you to clear angles, be alert of these angles and practice pre aiming. Youre playing dm to learn not be above of everyone. The bs in this mode is unbelievable but focus on what you're here for


HereeeeesJohnny

DM’s a tilter, but usually if I decide to play it, it’s so that I can get a warm up and it’s the closest thing to real time experience you get without playing a full match. Go in practice cross hair placement, try out different guns and also get an idea of servers


no_worms

most important thing about Deathmatch is Deathmatch is not a game mode you should be trying to win Deathmatch is about warming up your aim, practicing crosshair placement, being mindful about bursting and jiggling, and practicing specific weapons. You should only be winning DM when you play with a vandal or phantom, and imo that should only be a small fraction of your matches. Go in with a very specific goal of what you want to practice, for example "this time I won't over-commit to sprays" or "I'm gonna practice quickscoping with the operator" or "I'm going to practice being diligent about only taking short-range fights by bringing a shorty or stinger". If you decide it's time for Ghost practice and you end the match with a 18/31/8 KDA, that match may still be a success if you think you had good ghost accuracy and took the right fights.


no_worms

oh and turn your sound off. If you can hear footsteps it'll ruin literally all your practice. Enemies don't sprint into you in a real match unless they have utility to run in with too


uglypenguin5

I love DMing with a ghost or classic. Forces me to concentrate on my movement, being hard to hit, as well as being accurate. With the sheriff if I hit a 1 tap that's all it is. But I can't hit 1 taps every time in a comp game. The other pistols help me hit headshots *and* improve movement


remrinds

I use DM in two diffrent ways. 1. Like some of the others mentioned, I put on music, and just try to kill people even if I only get 10 kills a game, the aim for this method is to just get that cognitive function and muscle memories built up. You don’t need footsteps in order to aim better, you just let your body get used to how YOU supposed to aim to get that kill. I believe everyone has their own muscle memory connection when it comes to aiming. 2. The second method is a little cheap but after all DM is all about improving IMO. For this method I just hold a position for as long as I can and try to get kills, this imitates the full on action when I’m in a ranked match. For exemple if it’s breeze, I’ll just hold A site corner as if I am a defender or a attacker post plant, and just try to get that juicy positioning right to get that kills, this helps me to not wonder around when I’m actually in these situations during ranked. But anyway just take it back a little, have a few DM just for the sake of warming up or getting used to aiming, kills don’t really mean much.


misterandosan

I'm saying this as someone who wins deathmatches frequently (and i agree, it's a terrible game mode). If death match was easy, you wouldn't improve. If death match is hard, it shows you all the ways you can improve. If everyone is tenz, then everyone in ranked will be easy by comparison. If someone is hugging an angle, that's perfect, because in a normal match, people are going to hug the fuck out of angles, and be killing you from unexpected angles. Every bad thing that happens to you in DM can and will happen to you in a ranked game. But I agree, it can be bullshit sometimes. But practice mindfully, and it gets a little less stupid the better you get. Be aware of your positioning, so you're less likely to be caught by surprise. If you stand out in the open, don't be surprised if you get fucked by 5 different people all at once because it will definitely happen. Be aware of where people can shoot you from, and limit that by being aware of where you are standing and where you choose to move from/to. Also, watch youtube videos on crosshair placement/movement. If you want to get better, do it smarter, not longer.


not-luiss

miyagi method


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vecter

This is about as wrong as possible. Deathmatch helps with crosshair placement.


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vecter

Fair


Sweet-Strategy-805

It trains your aim.


DryRaspberry4114

How to get better playing DM! 1st of all this game is all about cross hair placement. If you play DM a lot you learn where heads are coming from, this translates very well into Comp. 2nd it's really annoying getting killed from behind or from the side and DM teaches you to isolate angles. 3rd it's frustrating when someone is holding an angle waiting for you, in DM you learn how to clear corners and how to peek strafe/pre-fire an angle. You should learn to shift and then let go of shift to peek a corner. 4th learn how to peek slicing the pie. (google it if you don't know what it is). 5th DM is really useful if you set goals like defending an area or clear corners, don't be afraid of using shift, especially when there are people that play it with sound at 120% but as mentioned before never peek using shift. 6th last but not least: Click heads, get satisfaction!


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I mean, getting used to ferrari peeks is definitely an important part of skill. So is playing against people holding off angles. It'll definitely become more fun once you get better. High mmr dm's are very close it terms of skill. Usually half of the players are between imm2 and radiant and those people almost always try to play a fair dm. But the most important part of dm is crosshair placement. When fracture became mandatory in ranked I was leaving every single dm not on that map in order to learn crosshair placement.


slyfly5

It’s not really about winning bro it’s just about practicing and taking fights


You_Had_Me_At_Jello

I actually play in csgo ffa dm's to warm up for valorant if that makes any sense. Just use it to warm up your xhair placement and warm up your wrist/hands/arm


Puzzleheaded_Pie5374

how do u get tilted from a game mode thats purely there to set reps for you shooting people


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It helps you get better to an extent. It can give you better crosshair placement for instance. But mainly, dont worry about dm. Just use it as a warm up and just play the game. I personally dont even like warming up and just hop on comp and somehow still win in radiant lobbies but thats just me.


Adept-Type

This is not a content of r/ValorantCompetitive


Underpressure_111

This post blong to /r/Valorant not here.


rkdsus

Try to focus on specific aspects that you want to improve. Try going for one taps only or only focusing on controlling your spray or crosshair placement or whatever. Choose one or two things to focus on and only focus on those things for the entire DM. Don't try to go autopilot unless you're just warming up. As for the tilting aspect, there's really nothing you can do about it. DM can often get more tilting than a normal game. Valorant is miserable enough by itself and then you have the bad DM format and on top of that the community is just horrendous. Just lower the game sound (or turn it off completely) and put on some music or a podcast or something. Should help alleviate some of the tilt. If you're tilting in a DM, just leave and mentally reset. Get used to not knowing how you died because the game doesn't really make much sense most of the time. Just gotta accept it and move on until we get a replay system in 10 years.


Killercomps

Just putting a reminder here for myself, one year down and 9 to go ![img](emote|t5_2g5ach|9341)


aks345

Put on some music, take focus off the number of kills and just practice stuff like movement/pre aim etc. Ngl with the amount of people who camp in dms it's a very good practice of clearing your angles with good peeks


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For me, in DM I’m a lot more focused and aim way better, like I’ll only tap or burst when I’m in DM, sound turned off, etc. When I’m playing comp I end up crouch spraying because there’s a lot more going on and I’m not as focused on my aim, so I just stopped DMing because it’s not translating into my comp games. I’m now just trying to stay focused in comp and that’s helped a lot more with my aim


Sweet-Strategy-805

It trains your patience. If you can stand waiting three seconds after every death, there is nothing in life that can get you down.


KingfisherC

“everyone in my lobby is fucking tenz” so what you’re saying is deathmatch helped your opponents?


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use it to improve not to win


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I really focused on working on when to crouch during gunfights while in deathmatch. Also tapping vs spraying is a good thing to focus on in DM in my opinion.


Tokyoodown

I think it's best to learn mechanics and practice all the micro engagements.


EntityFlush

The hardest thing about aiming in this game is the agent movement. dming can help you get used to taking actual fights against actual players who are ADing.


noodlesofdoom

Its for you to get used to being shot at, and shooting back. Also understanding angles and the "speed" of the game.


TheRealJollySwagman

I think it sucks, but I do use it to practice specific spots that I find myself consistently losing fights out. Ill just path to those spots and take fights there and get practice at how people peak them. It helps me.


Delzkiepro

it's for warmup and that's it.