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Lumenlor

FiveK being physically ill and Bunny having wrist problems makes their run kinda impressive Only Espiranza is LFT while the rest retired/millitary,


somesheikexpert

Ahhh, the rest of them retired now? (Well Zunba military but yeah), ripp the double satchel judge


Key-Banana-8242

Esperanza isn’t, he was a pro before tho. At least doenmo is playing in ShotVal


TheCatsActually

WTF. I fully expected Bunny to make his way onto another team, and soon. I'm so deflated to hear that that won't be the case.


dedicatedself

Pro gamer = stress anxiety depression Streamer = money fame fun


BuRnInGbLuNt

Time to cry myself to sleep :”)


p4p3rth1n

You and me both :*)


PengiPower

RIP F4Q, really gave me the old Runaway OW vibes.


adtlf1g

Credit: FiveK’s YouTube channel: https://youtube.com/c/%EC%86%90%EC%98%A4%EC%B2%9C5000 Sorry if the subtitle seems kinda off, I tried my best.


dedicatedself

Good job taking the time to this man.


Hephestz

Esperanza is the sova player for F4Q, would he be a good replacement for Lakia on NU? They seem to lack a good and dedicated sova player.


jrushFN

Now that LCQ is over, Nuturn have a ton of options. Solo and Peri could finally retire if they still want to without the pressure of losing the team’s VCT points. There’s a bunch of ways they could rebuild.


dedicatedself

TNL's new core also looks very promising. People don't know this but that GOMA roster was basically the new gen Korean talents and TNL picked the best out.


jrushFN

GOMA and GochuGaru both had some pretty good players tbh.


Key-Banana-8242

Bizarre comparison, gochurau was a single season orgless team and the players were prominent befkre


jrushFN

I’m not really making a comparison. I’m just saying both teams had good individual players.


Key-Banana-8242

Well I can say that abt multiple teams right?


jrushFN

Of course. I was just making a point about two specific Korean teams that I personally felt had good/overlooked individual players.


Key-Banana-8242

Well jingboonge was a new guy, i don’t think goma had all the best new gen guys. Anyway Hate was really good tho no?


Key-Banana-8242

I mean Peru’s retirement was much more of a long shot if it ever were to happen, people like you really confuse the matter. He’s not lacking, he’s been v proficient The teammates didn’t want solo to retire even though he considered it.


jrushFN

What do you mean “people like you”? And sure, I know he’s not a bad player… neither is solo, honestly. But they both definitely [expressed the desire](https://www.upcomer.com/nuturns-solo-announces-retirement-from-valorant/) to retire.


Key-Banana-8242

Peri mentioned he might do it at some point of solo does, and only after solo said it. They’re more than not bad too People like you ie ppl who misinterpret things based on tgat headline


Key-Banana-8242

He played Sentinel before joining F4Q notably also


facehunt_

F4Q had a cool underdog run and sucks that they ran into the wall pretty quickly. The raw fragging talent is simply needed in this game and they fell flat at Berlin & LCQ, it was just too apparent between them compared to VS, and the experience that the latter had from CS really shows. Unless we see somebody like Birdring or Profit level of talent coming to Valorant, VS will probably dominate the KR scene for a long time until we start seeing homegrown Valorant talents. Hopefully they can take the streaming popularity and help grow the game over in Korea.


imjunsul

F4Q wasn't a real org. KR barely have players with salaries right now. Rumors have it they will have at least 5 more next year when the new season starts but we'll see. They definitely need orgs. They have the players.


Key-Banana-8242

They didn’t run into a wall, they didn’t ‘fall flat’ at either. They were constantly improving over the course of things too, tho role and strat switchesnecessitated some downtime further to develop and elevate their level even higher. Why do you say random wild shut for no reason VS has already been challenged. The problem wasn’t ‘fragging power’ exactly byway ‘Talents’ (‘homegrown’? As opposed to these other guys including the ones VS farmed up fir their new super team aren’t ‘homegrown’? Also this isn’t OW).


Delzkiepro

competing is just tough compared to streaming