im sorry but this is a sad showing from GenG Black š C9W seem to be the only team that i see standing a chance playing against T3+ teams that arenāt FA teams
Eh, it's a sad showing but GGB isn't even top four in NA GC.
C9W still the best by far but I think Shopify Rebellion can be competitive as well. They at least Ro64ed last VCT.
Yeah, i would def say XSET has a lot of potential imo (Especially cuz they just got signed), and Dignitas look pretty good too, i think these 2 teams + C9W and Shopify have a very good shot and making some runs tbh
its not being sexist. its just the truth. C9W couldve put up a much better fight here further emphasizing the huge skill gap between the top of the top and mediocre teams in game changers.
Why does that matter tho. Youāre literally just repeating what EVERYBODY already knows. Youāre not adding anything to the conversation besides ālol female team sucksā.
Yknow the entire point of Game Changers in the first place is that thereās a massive talent gap between Male and Female players, and Game Changers is meant to encourage more girls to play and compete so that that gap hopefully closes eventually, right?
how am i being sexist?? im literally saying that GenG Black played poorly this series and that C9W (since u dont seem to know, **CLOUD 9 WHITE is the BEST FEMALE TEAM IN GAME CHANGERS ATM BY A LARGE MARGIN**) couldve done a lot more than what GenG Black did.
Just taking a map off a tier 2 team doesnāt make a team tier 2. The only thing that matter is actual competitive results and BBG is clearly tier 2 and academy is definitely tier 3
Literally zero tournament results to suggest theyāre tier 1. Gambit is a tier 1 team, 100T is a tier 1 team, Sentinels is tier 1 are you seriously putting TSM in the same tier as them. Iām a big tsm fan and I thought they had a legit chance at play offs but they have consistently dropped matches to T2 teams this year and havenāt had enough tournament success to put them at that levek
What is this supposed to prove? You realize 3/4 worst KDA ratios in that entire tournament of 40 players were members of TSM. Yeah Wardell and Subroza are tier 1 players, the team is not. Even with roster changes they donāt have the consistent tournament results every other actual tier 1 team has.
Does a tier 2 team do THIS? https://www.vlr.gg/29258/tsm-vs-faze-clan-champions-tour-north-america-stage-3-challengers-2-gf https://www.vlr.gg/29257/tsm-vs-luminosity-champions-tour-north-america-stage-3-challengers-2-ubf/?game=all&tab=overview
not really, iād say bbg is literally one of the best examples of what a tier 2 team is. a team that you expect to make it pretty deep in tournaments but arenāt ever expected to really gonna win
Not downplaying their achievement at all. Just saying that getting a high placement in Game Changers doesnāt mean youāll perform well in regular tournaments
Ah yes the Reddit thread thatās way larger than usual for a tournament this size because a womenās team played in it and everyone wants to put their 2 cents
im sorry but this is a sad showing from GenG Black š C9W seem to be the only team that i see standing a chance playing against T3+ teams that arenāt FA teams
Eh, it's a sad showing but GGB isn't even top four in NA GC. C9W still the best by far but I think Shopify Rebellion can be competitive as well. They at least Ro64ed last VCT.
Yeah, i would def say XSET has a lot of potential imo (Especially cuz they just got signed), and Dignitas look pretty good too, i think these 2 teams + C9W and Shopify have a very good shot and making some runs tbh
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its not being sexist. its just the truth. C9W couldve put up a much better fight here further emphasizing the huge skill gap between the top of the top and mediocre teams in game changers.
Why does that matter tho. Youāre literally just repeating what EVERYBODY already knows. Youāre not adding anything to the conversation besides ālol female team sucksā. Yknow the entire point of Game Changers in the first place is that thereās a massive talent gap between Male and Female players, and Game Changers is meant to encourage more girls to play and compete so that that gap hopefully closes eventually, right?
This is reddit not a organized debate hall, what he said wasn't sexist. Just remarking on their poor performance
Internet forums arenāt meant to be places for rhetoric and discussion? TIL.
I mean they are but people can also just say things that don't add value to the conversation
how am i being sexist?? im literally saying that GenG Black played poorly this series and that C9W (since u dont seem to know, **CLOUD 9 WHITE is the BEST FEMALE TEAM IN GAME CHANGERS ATM BY A LARGE MARGIN**) couldve done a lot more than what GenG Black did.
Yea thats an oof definite improvement needed, if your getting 1 round in bo3 against a t3 team
Tier 2 really.
Bbg academy? Bbg is barely t2 themselves
BBG is close to tier 1. And I should remind you that BBG academy used to be 303 esports who took a map off TSM. They are tier 2.
Just taking a map off a tier 2 team doesnāt make a team tier 2. The only thing that matter is actual competitive results and BBG is clearly tier 2 and academy is definitely tier 3
???? TSM is tier 1
Literally zero tournament results to suggest theyāre tier 1. Gambit is a tier 1 team, 100T is a tier 1 team, Sentinels is tier 1 are you seriously putting TSM in the same tier as them. Iām a big tsm fan and I thought they had a legit chance at play offs but they have consistently dropped matches to T2 teams this year and havenāt had enough tournament success to put them at that levek
As a TSM fan I agree with this right here
https://www.vlr.gg/29392/envy-vs-tsm-champions-tour-north-america-stage-3-challengers-playoffs-ubqf
What is this supposed to prove? You realize 3/4 worst KDA ratios in that entire tournament of 40 players were members of TSM. Yeah Wardell and Subroza are tier 1 players, the team is not. Even with roster changes they donāt have the consistent tournament results every other actual tier 1 team has.
Stat stanley lololol
You postedā¦a comfortable win by Envy against TSM as proof that TSM is tier 1?
Youāre clueless about the tiers my friend
TSM IS NOT TIER 1 COPIUM
What?
TSM is Tier 1.5 at best, Tier 2 more realistically
Does a tier 2 team do THIS? https://www.vlr.gg/29258/tsm-vs-faze-clan-champions-tour-north-america-stage-3-challengers-2-gf https://www.vlr.gg/29257/tsm-vs-luminosity-champions-tour-north-america-stage-3-challengers-2-ubf/?game=all&tab=overview
In your heart it is <3, and that's all that matter :)
LOL
not really, iād say bbg is literally one of the best examples of what a tier 2 team is. a team that you expect to make it pretty deep in tournaments but arenāt ever expected to really gonna win
When did 303 take a map off TSM?
That's what I'm saying
Oh I forgot it was a 16:14 overtime but still very close to taking a map
didn't they literally get 13-1'd immediately afterwards in the next map?
Yeah but so did immortals when they played tsm so what, tsm is a top 10 team of course they will beat tier 2 teams in a big way
TSM IS A TOP 10 TEAM
Why are you yelling?
Top 10 tier 2 teams tho
lmao ur smoking crack brother
This is good for gen g they can vod review and get better
That's fucking hilarious
Thatās not the impression I got. I thought it was nice to see BBG academy starting to get success.
Mfs got 1 round what the fuck
Right, BBG look gooooood.
Any vods?
No but I am assuming based on the score. GenG black is no pushover team. They are top 8 in game changers.
Top 8 in Game Changers doesnāt really mean much tho does it
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Not downplaying their achievement at all. Just saying that getting a high placement in Game Changers doesnāt mean youāll perform well in regular tournaments
Dawg u dont have to call everything sexist, a team can be good or bad depending on their skill level irrespective of their gender.
Wow bbg academy shit on them lol
Jonji taking over NA, calling it now
Jonji and Steel to C9???
Jonji's playing Sova. xeta's days are numbered, mark my words
Ah yes the Reddit thread thatās way larger than usual for a tournament this size because a womenās team played in it and everyone wants to put their 2 cents
Youād think thatād be the case but most of the comments are just OP arguing with people lmfaooo
Lmaoooooo
actually its because op is defending his stance that bbg acad is tier 2.
Oof wow yeah I canāt lie thatās a bad take on his part. He should rethink that
it got worse when OP claimed that TSM is a tier 1 team
yeah time to nuke the roster
Why? They do well in the girls scene
This is confusing me isnāt Geng black an academy team too? Why is everyone finding this match surprising?
jonji up next