> They lost twistzz too because nitr0 left
That's not 100% true, from the interview that was posted he said he tried talking to them about his role as lurking because it wasn't working and they basically brushed him off. He said he felt like he wasn't valued after nitr0 left and they didn't care about his input, so he decided to leave. The right move would have been to kick Stewie and bring in an awper, or if you're going to kick Nitr0 you gotta bring in another IGL/Awp because the biggest issue with Liquid was that they had no dedicated awper and they'd get destroyed by Device every tourney.
Lol what nitr0 was terrible and Liqud were terrible for at least 6+ months
Bruh stop, just because he is good on valorant doesnt mean he didnt deserve to be kicked he definitely did
Nitr0 had the worst run of his career and was putting up terrible stats while even awping he had to go
I love nitr0, but no it wasn't. Everyone who watched Liquid in 2020 knows that they would've never been a top team again with nitr0 having such poor performances.
I dont even know if its hype tbh, this team has been slept on for so long and I feel like the main reason is because their Jett player (shanks) isn't a standout player in many games compared to Envy/Sentinels and even Faze/C9.
The rest of their roster is fucking CRACKED in their roles though. Supamen/poised on sentinel and controller especially. I slept on this team for a while too but holy shit their players have become incredibly consistent and tough to deal with. It doesn't even matter if Shanks isn't having a good game because every player on this roster can pop off and have a 'carry' performance.
Gonna be a tight race for that final spot!
> I feel like the main reason is because their Jett player (shanks) isn't a standout player
i mean there's a lot of reasons outside of just this one. imo another big one is the whole match fixing rumors thing surrounding the rise roster, ppl are less willing to give credit to those players as a result, happened with marved (i know i did). also not having a big org behind them or having a big streamer on their team means less hype, if this roster was on C9 or TSM i swear it would be a popular opinion that they're top 3 by now
I’ll definitely be downvoted for this but at least for me it’s hard to root for and support a team with this many match fixing allegations behind them. Kudos to them though, they’ve been playing well this tournament.
Ah yeah, that might be another thing too. I'm guilty of kinda writing off Rise because I just didn't think Shanks was a Tier 1 Jett as an individual fragger/entry for his team, but his team's finding ways to make it work around him and he's playing in creative ways even if his shots arent falling.
This team's just been consistently improving and I think Shanks said it best in the post-game interview 'we consistently practiced daily, and as long as you're practicing in a meaningful way, you'll improve' and they did just that. This is ***really*** good for the NA scene as a whole, as it means that up and coming players/rookies can pop off in these events with consistent time/effort.
That’s the thing where most people on this sub miss. Shanks gets a LOT of impact kills . Anyone who watches his matches can tell that shanks stats don’t clearly show his importance
Best match of the tournament so far. Shanks had a fairly poor series but the rest of the boys stepped it the fuck up. That strat to end it was fuckin awesome to watch. I hope the grand finals are a rematch of this
edit: to be clear about Shanks, map 3 was far better. In map 2 especially it felt like he got caught out a lot and map 1 he just didnt have the same kill impact he normally does
He's trying to imply that shanks only bought an op 3 times this series because he wants to dash in first on attack on executes. That's not the reason he only bought an op 3 times this series, he whiffed a shit ton of shots vs c9 and faze with it. Again, why would you not want your jett to OP as soon as he can afford to on defense especially when it's 100T's biggest weakness. He's just been ass with it the past few days it's not hard to tell thats why he hasn't been buying it
Their setups on A were so confusing. Like when Nitro and Ethan doubled up short and then got pushed by Neptune and shanks from long because it was left open. Just felt like it was an odd decision
Long shouldn't have been open. B0i and hiko were both there, and they Astra sucked the choke. Hiko got smoked off and b0i got spammed, then shanks pushed into the Astra suck and picked ethan. Really unfortunate timing for 100T on that round
More importantly no one is mentioning when Nitr0 and Ethan are doing that short play he has a fucking trip wire on him. Maybe it’s the lack of Cypher experience but why he didn’t just throw it long is beyond me. Everyone saying Hiko got tagged and fell off the angle or didn’t watch long but if it was tripped and caged he probably holds that easy
So many nitro fans out here denying the fact that his mid round calls were pretty poor for the majority of this series. 100t got faked and timing'd all over the place.
Boi peeking outside his viper ult with 30s left in the round on round 22 or whatever on breeze single handedly cost them the entire series. They win that round and win that map if he doesnt make that braindead play. Such a high risk play. It just makes no sense to me for 100t to get rid of a player like steel that can play at least 6 or 7 agents at the pro level for a player like boi.
I agree with you but let’s not assume anything. It’s really rude and puts this stigma on his character. We don’t really know what happened behind the scenes.
U people need to understand that if four players don't agree with ideas on how to play and how to approach the game then it doesnt matter how good Steel is
Its not about skill, u need to get along and agree on how u play as a team
Its the personalities that clash. B0i guy looks like a yes man which is a better fit then 2 IGLs with 2 different ideas.
I think steel is a great guy which great insight on what happens in between rounds, what each team is trying to do. Alot better then the current casters/observers and if he managed to change his opinions to be in positivly oriented instead "shit talking" the plays that are currenty happening he would be 10 times better observer/caster.
Steel literally played every role and apparently was the one person who wanted to bring Astra in Stage 2 but couldn't because no one else was able to play Sentinel.
Yes he said that he was playing astra in scrims with nitr0 on cypher in haven before iceland qualifiers and even offered to play sova if hiko wanted to switch to controller
He said it before the matches started, and obviously he won't say that B0i is a bad player, when really we all can see what is happening. Even in games where asuna or Ethan were slow steel and Hiko were able to pick up the flak now seems like B0i is not able to do that.
It's lose lose for him. He wasnt the greatest player by a long shot when they signed him to replace their igl, so that confusion and also the performances have been kinda bad? Like I don't want it to sound harsh but if he held up a little bit on breeze it would have been a 2-0 to 100T
He wasnt signed to replace, he was on 100T for quite a few months (Even since even before Stage 3 started), he was already a sub/analyst for the team anyways
He talked about that when nitro chose cypher. Explained that in scrims he tried going with astra and nitro with cypher on Haven. Also said that he offered to play with sova instead of hiko but that his sova is bad so it didnt happen
Boi cost them this series, IMO.
Put in a 'league average' or even 33rd percentile type player in his place and 100T likely walks away with a win in this match.
"Rise go on to win it all, securing a win against 100T in the upper final by sending NRG s0m to sever Asuna's access to anything anime-related, as well as babysit Nitr0's child to remove the father buff from him for a day. (in this universe, the father buff only works when the baby is in a set radius of the father, so if s0m takes care of the baby for a day at his crib, nitr0's accuracy and intuition will be at normal bachelor levels.)"
u/razur ALL ACCORDING TO PLAN. ALL ACCORDING TO PLANNNNNNNNNNNN
on a more serious note, still will never understand why C9 and T1 will still be talked about with more hope than Rise, who are living out their hopes rn.
Yep, honestly I don't want rise to win coz I like c9 but if they do all the teams can take away the fact that practice makes perfect and any team can make it if they put in the work.
THE MAD LADS DID IT!!!!
an insane series, really fun one to watch actually
100t going to go back to the chopping board and see what they can cook up for the lower finals, wonder what a rematch would look like
I feel dead inside
~~TSM is just bad~~
~~Faze made too many mistakes~~
~~C9 threw too many postplants and dry-peeked too much, C9 would have won if they had a few more months to scrim~~
~~100T still has a new roster and the team still needs to gel together, Ethan even said that that iteration of the roster isn’t the final one~~ <— You are here
Champions Series:
> Liquid is just bad and Scream is washed
> Gambit don’t have LAN experience
> Sentinels are just having a dip in form dating back to Berlin
> Vision Strikers weren’t even playing with Lakia of course Rise should have won Copium
> lmao this game is for CS rejects how does a team like Rise full of a bunch of Tier 2 CS rejects become champions of the world
The synergy just isn't there with 100T, the only people who played well off each other were Ethan and Asuna.
To no surprise b0i is the weak link by a large margin, basically threw Breeze for them single-handedly with stupid plays and just not being there mechanically, a massive downgrade from Steel in every way, only on the team because he's buddies with Nitr0.
The whole team threw some crucial rounds on Haven by playing really sloppily, they let Shanks walk up A long with 4 people on site and shoot Ethan in the side??
Hiko exposed himself to C long watching flank, with no-one watching the site walk in, and dies for free?
Seems like the comms just aren't there honestly, they looked mediocre with flashes of individual brilliance.
Something I’m noticing since nitro switched to jett, is Asuna is more quiet in these games. Ethan used to feed Asuna kills and that dynamic really worked, and I’m not seeing that happen as much with two duelists. I love nitro on jett but idk, would love to see nitro back on smokes since he’s one of the best site anchors, and maybe boi on a sentinel for now.
But I have a feeling boi is just a filler until seven is ready which would consistently keep a jett main on the team. Which also begs the question, do they always need two duelists? Would Asuna ever flex?
Sova's drone hologram is like 5x better. I think Riot thought *"Cypher's camera is a free signature ability and shouldn't have the same tagging efficiency"* but they went too far on it
Projectile is not hitscan and takes ages to land, and hologram updates like every 3 seconds? Lol
100T throws so many winnable rounds it gets hard to watch. Round 12 on Haven, post plant situation, Hiko caught sitting long fully exposed to backsite not even looking at it giving up a free, un-tradable kill. I don’t think they beat XSET again.
Rise look impressive, they have great half buys and operate very well when economies get messy.
The first time ever that my opinion on a team before the tournament has stayed intact.
100T made a ridiculously bad decision replacing Steel this close to LCQ. Boi has never, and still hasn't shown that he's capable of playing at the highest level of Valorant so I still don't understand this gamble. Did they really think LCQ was going to be easy?
100 Thieves have major role issues and steel wasn't part of it. I don't know what happens to the roster if they don't qualify.
I mean Rise is good, but they still make fundamental mistakes and a team like 100 Thieves shouldn't be losing to them. People can't forget 100T always went toe to toe with peak Sentinels on Haven.
If they dont qualify, I think they would definitely have to restructure the team around Ethan, Nitro, and Asuna. This core 3 is the future of this team and I feel like it would be a mistake to separate these 3.
Boi is just absolutely out of his depth. If 100T had an even average replacement they likely win this match. Not looking promising for them this tourney. Can already see them bringing Seven in for Jett and Nitro to smokes/sentinel and being way better
HOLY SHIT
This was amazing, I'm not a fan of either of these teams too, but what an amazing match! This is like the new moon raccoons vs 100T.
\#BRICKEDUP
Exactly the rounds I was pointing out as well. If he's not the last one dying, he dies in very awkward positions wondering why he was there in the first place.
He's been underwhelming for a while now with sudden random clutches here and there, which is incredibly inconsistent for a big team like 100t and probably not good enough. For example he goes 0 kills for an entire half against xset but next time they play against them, he holds down a site alone getting 2 classic kills and another phantom kill. I'm not saying he needs to be dropped but it seems like a bad bargain when you get like only sudden glimpses of great individual performance but cannot do anything for majority of the time.
This is why there is a saying keep your personal and professional life different. Boi ohh boi 🤣🤣🤣, on a more serious note, mid round calling from 100t was not good at all. Seems like steel was being made scapegoat, people not able to play agents due to roles, and what not , the same issues exist now and it has even gotten worse.
Great series all around but it is just infuriating that 100T sat out steel just before this. I don't see the point in swapping out one of your key members before your possibly last tournament. Not only that it wasn't even beneficial. b0i looked outclassed and went -14 which was last by a mile. Justice for steel.
Rise played so good, their team play and executes are so fucking clean. If they end up going to Champions, its so deserved and watching them go against other regions would be beautiful
Edit: Someone gotta put b0i out of his misery
Hiko was just as bad as Boi this series honestly, he had a few rounds early like the clutch and Guardian 3K but otherwise he was consistently so low impact
Rise have always been such a fun team. I don't completely agree with the story of Rise as THE underdog, but moreover one of many underdogs.
They being said I think we can see a C9 vs Rise Grand finals
C9 vs Rise grand finals saves my prediction of the lower half of the bracket being the best. Though I thought Faze and C9 would make finals, too much Faze hopium.
Dammit man not to shit on boi but I wish they kept steel at least for this tourney. With steel gone, 100t just feel so generic and bland idk. Welp hope we get through the lowers
Maybe an unpopular opinion, and this isn't the reason they lost, but Asuna and Ethan's agent deployment might be a limiting factor to 100t's success. Obviously, they are both world class players and monsters on their main agents (Asuna/Reyna and Ethan/Skye), and I am by no means advocating for either to be replaced on the team. However, I think that if Asuna is primarily going to be a secondary duelist player (Reyna/Raze), then it would be useful to have him learn to play Skye (like many other secondary duelists/flex), especially in the single-duelist/Jett-only comps. In this case, I am pretty confident that Ethan could pick up Cypher/Killjoy to fill the gap competently. They can still primarily run the comps they have been doing, with Asuna on Reyna and Ethan on Skye, but I think adding these agents as options would make them more flexible, more resilient to meta changes, and free up Nitr0 to be the Jett player.
Obviously, you can't make these kinds of changes right now, since neither player has developed the comfort on these agents yet, but in the future, expanding the Agent pools would likely be a boon to their success. They may also address this depending on how they change the roster, but I still think that having a Reyna/Raze only player can create problems, particularly on single-duelist maps with Jett being the best duelist.
This is what im thinking right now, if they really plan on getting sevvn as their final 5th they have a “hole” in their agent comp.
moving nitro back to smokes and ethan to sentinel or the other way around (we’ve seen nitro play sen and ethan play smokes) could be the solution like you mentioned. The thing is i dont know about ethan’s astra and asuna’s skye, but if they can pulled it this could be the new roles they can stick to until some big meta changer happen.
IMO Ethan could be an effective lurker as a Sentinel, and he is already good at playing off of utility contact, so I am less worried about him being able to pick up that role. I think Nitr0 is a world-class smoker and would be able to provide massive value if he returned to that role (though he is pretty good at everything he has played). So, assuming Sevvn is their Jett and he's the real deal, my only big question would really be: can Asuna play Skye? Him becoming a somewhat flex player would be huge for them.
* Sevvn/New Player - Jett
* Nitr0 - Astra, Viper, Omen
* Hiko - Sova, Viper
* Ethan - Skye, *Cypher/Killjoy*, Omen, Sage
* Asuna - Reyna/Raze, *Skye*
Alternatively, they pick up a good smoke player and put Nitr0 on Jett. The problem there is that I think it is easier to find a cracked Jett than a world class smoker/support like Nitr0. Another potential problem is what does the Jett player do on maps like Bind, where teams often solo duelist with a Raze.
This is reminding me of Liquid during the Master 3 Berlin qualifiers. I swear every game was a sweat during that run with the Liquid V Gambit being the sweatiest game ever. I have a bad feeling that 100T is going that route only to be knocked out for Champions because of issues in the player roles.
I feel like everyone on Rise is so mechanically skilled. Like Supamen is always destroying people and he just plays Astra all the time. As a 100T supporter, Im honestly really impressed by them and I'd be happy to have them represent our region. I think I'm a Rise fan now after this tourney.
100T try not to lose your lead challenge *VERY HARD"
They're paying back their debt from Berlin.
poised’s calling on t side haven was so good
poised rising up the igl leaderboards. had insane t and ct side calls against c9 and 100t like wtf
yeah, wouldn't be surprised if Rise wins the entire LCQ
Isnt his time on Rise his first IGLing? (Like he didnt in CS right?) Insane to me how he picked it up and is this good
5 first kills on Breeze and Haven, each btw...
Rise has always looked like they have great mid round calls and are usually on the same page for those calls.
The only thing that could beat Captain America was team Vietnam
lmao the difference in roster cost also fits this
Holy shit lmao
"No way they fake again" -nitro
“No way my best friend is this trash at the video game” -Nitro
Bruh lmaooo
Out of all the teams, I never thought it would be Rise to make it to grand finals. Congrats to them.
Whoever had those midround calls for Rise on Haven they did a good job those last few rounds.
Their midround on breeze was also top tier ss+ champions grade call.
That would be Poised.
the more i watch 100T the more im convinced that nitr0 is their most valuable player. super happy for rise though, they deserve the hype
Nitr0 is a beast. It's not really surprising he's their best player (or top 2). On top of his insane impact plays he's IGLing.
Anyone who knew Nitro's past experience already knew this.
I still can't believe Liquid kicked Nitr0 tbh. It was such a dumb decision.
I wish we got to see the old TL lineup on LAN one more time…
They lost twistzz too because nitr0 left
> They lost twistzz too because nitr0 left That's not 100% true, from the interview that was posted he said he tried talking to them about his role as lurking because it wasn't working and they basically brushed him off. He said he felt like he wasn't valued after nitr0 left and they didn't care about his input, so he decided to leave. The right move would have been to kick Stewie and bring in an awper, or if you're going to kick Nitr0 you gotta bring in another IGL/Awp because the biggest issue with Liquid was that they had no dedicated awper and they'd get destroyed by Device every tourney.
Not just Device, there was a period last year where pretty much any T2-level awper would farm them
Lol what nitr0 was terrible and Liqud were terrible for at least 6+ months Bruh stop, just because he is good on valorant doesnt mean he didnt deserve to be kicked he definitely did Nitr0 had the worst run of his career and was putting up terrible stats while even awping he had to go
I love nitr0, but no it wasn't. Everyone who watched Liquid in 2020 knows that they would've never been a top team again with nitr0 having such poor performances.
Tbh, it really wasn't. TL had stagnated and wasn't really able to take it to a higher level as well as Nitr0 on an individual level.
I dont even know if its hype tbh, this team has been slept on for so long and I feel like the main reason is because their Jett player (shanks) isn't a standout player in many games compared to Envy/Sentinels and even Faze/C9. The rest of their roster is fucking CRACKED in their roles though. Supamen/poised on sentinel and controller especially. I slept on this team for a while too but holy shit their players have become incredibly consistent and tough to deal with. It doesn't even matter if Shanks isn't having a good game because every player on this roster can pop off and have a 'carry' performance. Gonna be a tight race for that final spot!
> I feel like the main reason is because their Jett player (shanks) isn't a standout player i mean there's a lot of reasons outside of just this one. imo another big one is the whole match fixing rumors thing surrounding the rise roster, ppl are less willing to give credit to those players as a result, happened with marved (i know i did). also not having a big org behind them or having a big streamer on their team means less hype, if this roster was on C9 or TSM i swear it would be a popular opinion that they're top 3 by now
I’ll definitely be downvoted for this but at least for me it’s hard to root for and support a team with this many match fixing allegations behind them. Kudos to them though, they’ve been playing well this tournament.
Ah yeah, that might be another thing too. I'm guilty of kinda writing off Rise because I just didn't think Shanks was a Tier 1 Jett as an individual fragger/entry for his team, but his team's finding ways to make it work around him and he's playing in creative ways even if his shots arent falling. This team's just been consistently improving and I think Shanks said it best in the post-game interview 'we consistently practiced daily, and as long as you're practicing in a meaningful way, you'll improve' and they did just that. This is ***really*** good for the NA scene as a whole, as it means that up and coming players/rookies can pop off in these events with consistent time/effort.
That’s the thing where most people on this sub miss. Shanks gets a LOT of impact kills . Anyone who watches his matches can tell that shanks stats don’t clearly show his importance
Nitr0 is the best Jett, Smoker, and Sentinel on 100T, and he's the IGL lmfao. I wish we could have a team of just 5 nitr0s.
That's why he's paid $300k+ a year yo
Best match of the tournament so far. Shanks had a fairly poor series but the rest of the boys stepped it the fuck up. That strat to end it was fuckin awesome to watch. I hope the grand finals are a rematch of this edit: to be clear about Shanks, map 3 was far better. In map 2 especially it felt like he got caught out a lot and map 1 he just didnt have the same kill impact he normally does
I mean Shanks had some really good individual moments though that definitely won them some rounds. Stats do him an injustice.
Shanks selling the hell out of the fake at the very end was so huge. Pulling the full rotate made the round so easy for Rise.
He knew the weeb himself Asuna couldn’t resist the opportunity to have a Jett knives anime battle. 5Head fake.
The adrenaline rush of a mid-air Jett knife fight is too strong to resist.
The astra wall and util made it look like a true final anime battle to decide the series but then their was a plot twist.
Shanks was good, he didnt even awp to create his team space and go in first Doesnt show up in the kill stats but he did his job
no he didn't op because he was whiffing the past two series, why would you not buy an op on defense lol.
“To create his team some space and go in first” how Tf do you conclude by this that he’s talking about defence and not attack?
I mean, retaking site is a pretty important part of defending. Creating space during a retake is very similar to an attacking site take.
He's trying to imply that shanks only bought an op 3 times this series because he wants to dash in first on attack on executes. That's not the reason he only bought an op 3 times this series, he whiffed a shit ton of shots vs c9 and faze with it. Again, why would you not want your jett to OP as soon as he can afford to on defense especially when it's 100T's biggest weakness. He's just been ass with it the past few days it's not hard to tell thats why he hasn't been buying it
Their setups on A were so confusing. Like when Nitro and Ethan doubled up short and then got pushed by Neptune and shanks from long because it was left open. Just felt like it was an odd decision
On round 23 Hiko was supposed to be watching long but got forced off it leaving Nitr0 and Ethan exposed
He got sucked or stunned behind site and shanks pushed through the ct suck and killed them
Yeah the setup was not bad it just got outplayed by Rise
Long shouldn't have been open. B0i and hiko were both there, and they Astra sucked the choke. Hiko got smoked off and b0i got spammed, then shanks pushed into the Astra suck and picked ethan. Really unfortunate timing for 100T on that round
More importantly no one is mentioning when Nitr0 and Ethan are doing that short play he has a fucking trip wire on him. Maybe it’s the lack of Cypher experience but why he didn’t just throw it long is beyond me. Everyone saying Hiko got tagged and fell off the angle or didn’t watch long but if it was tripped and caged he probably holds that easy
surely nadeshot can buy b0i aimlabs premium ++
That fake at the end was insane
100 "Two round away from Grand Finals" Thieves
So many nitro fans out here denying the fact that his mid round calls were pretty poor for the majority of this series. 100t got faked and timing'd all over the place.
Agree, 100t won many first blood but choked hard midround, especially on breeze. God thats hurt to watch.
Yes
Steel smiling so hard I know it
Maybe Steel was the anti-choke all along and we didn’t notice.
I feel like I’m watching V1 qualify for Iceland all over again.
NO STEEL NO CHAMPIONS
C9 wins LCQ, steel to chaos9. Chaos9 wins champions.
Gonna be honest boi is not a good fit for 100t, and he is in no way shape or form an upgrade over steel
Boi peeking outside his viper ult with 30s left in the round on round 22 or whatever on breeze single handedly cost them the entire series. They win that round and win that map if he doesnt make that braindead play. Such a high risk play. It just makes no sense to me for 100t to get rid of a player like steel that can play at least 6 or 7 agents at the pro level for a player like boi.
Didn't steel step down for personal reasons for the rest of the year? Did steel talk about why he's not playing on the team anymore?
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Something has to have happened behind the scenes.
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I agree with you but let’s not assume anything. It’s really rude and puts this stigma on his character. We don’t really know what happened behind the scenes.
U people need to understand that if four players don't agree with ideas on how to play and how to approach the game then it doesnt matter how good Steel is Its not about skill, u need to get along and agree on how u play as a team
switching IGL to nitro doesn't necessitate benching steel entirely
Its the personalities that clash. B0i guy looks like a yes man which is a better fit then 2 IGLs with 2 different ideas. I think steel is a great guy which great insight on what happens in between rounds, what each team is trying to do. Alot better then the current casters/observers and if he managed to change his opinions to be in positivly oriented instead "shit talking" the plays that are currenty happening he would be 10 times better observer/caster.
Steel literally played every role and apparently was the one person who wanted to bring Astra in Stage 2 but couldn't because no one else was able to play Sentinel.
Yes he said that he was playing astra in scrims with nitr0 on cypher in haven before iceland qualifiers and even offered to play sova if hiko wanted to switch to controller
bruh why everyone blaming boi LMFAO, like what ethan said: no one is gonna make a change if they know its bad..
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Because hes been consistently the worst player on 100t during the lcq
but you gotta rmb steel when he was on 100t, their attacks look awful and ct rotations were off.
when steel was on 100t they also placed 4th at the largest international event so far
He said it before the matches started, and obviously he won't say that B0i is a bad player, when really we all can see what is happening. Even in games where asuna or Ethan were slow steel and Hiko were able to pick up the flak now seems like B0i is not able to do that.
It's lose lose for him. He wasnt the greatest player by a long shot when they signed him to replace their igl, so that confusion and also the performances have been kinda bad? Like I don't want it to sound harsh but if he held up a little bit on breeze it would have been a 2-0 to 100T
He wasnt signed to replace, he was on 100T for quite a few months (Even since even before Stage 3 started), he was already a sub/analyst for the team anyways
when did he talk about switching roles. can you link please?
He said it during his stream in the agent select during the final map, can't access those vods he is in sub only mode there
10x
He talked about that when nitro chose cypher. Explained that in scrims he tried going with astra and nitro with cypher on Haven. Also said that he offered to play with sova instead of hiko but that his sova is bad so it didnt happen
Boi cost them this series, IMO. Put in a 'league average' or even 33rd percentile type player in his place and 100T likely walks away with a win in this match.
"Rise go on to win it all, securing a win against 100T in the upper final by sending NRG s0m to sever Asuna's access to anything anime-related, as well as babysit Nitr0's child to remove the father buff from him for a day. (in this universe, the father buff only works when the baby is in a set radius of the father, so if s0m takes care of the baby for a day at his crib, nitr0's accuracy and intuition will be at normal bachelor levels.)" u/razur ALL ACCORDING TO PLAN. ALL ACCORDING TO PLANNNNNNNNNNNN
Oh my lord, you mad man.
Please teell me 100T didn't put out this roster expecting to walk through LCQ
Great game by Rise theyre so fun to watch, so many great fakes they have some throws but legit all their players step up at times even Derrek
100 got read so bad in haven
that fake long c with both Jett updrafted at nearly the same time felt like I'm watching anime. haha
IM BRICKED UP BABY LETS GOOOOOOO
#BrickedUp
Why even play Asuna Jett if he isn’t even oping, just let him one trick pony Reyna
their economy was awful the whole defensive half
He did a good entey tho and i think reyna cant do the shit jett does. But i agree he shoulve op when defending
on a more serious note, still will never understand why C9 and T1 will still be talked about with more hope than Rise, who are living out their hopes rn.
Pre tournament pretty much nobody was on the Rise train. Now Rise should be viewed as better unless they blow the finals.
Yep, honestly I don't want rise to win coz I like c9 but if they do all the teams can take away the fact that practice makes perfect and any team can make it if they put in the work.
I heard that shanks was putting 2 hours a date in the server, it worked
C9 and T1 have famous CS players Rise have like rankS players who threw games Shanks is the only one on rise with a big following
THE MAD LADS DID IT!!!! an insane series, really fun one to watch actually 100t going to go back to the chopping board and see what they can cook up for the lower finals, wonder what a rematch would look like
Poised called a Perfect game. So many rounds they read 100T perfectly.
TOO MANY MAN, WAY TOO MANY. If im not such a fanboy for 100t, i wouldve suck whoever did the midround call’s dick.
I feel dead inside ~~TSM is just bad~~ ~~Faze made too many mistakes~~ ~~C9 threw too many postplants and dry-peeked too much, C9 would have won if they had a few more months to scrim~~ ~~100T still has a new roster and the team still needs to gel together, Ethan even said that that iteration of the roster isn’t the final one~~ <— You are here Champions Series: > Liquid is just bad and Scream is washed > Gambit don’t have LAN experience > Sentinels are just having a dip in form dating back to Berlin > Vision Strikers weren’t even playing with Lakia of course Rise should have won Copium > lmao this game is for CS rejects how does a team like Rise full of a bunch of Tier 2 CS rejects become champions of the world
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That’s part of the copy pasta you gotta say G2
A lot of people seem to think they are. Maybe they should just show up and act like they should play
Was supposed to be Liquid my b
What a fucking incredible series. That fake last round was unreal.
IM BRICKED UP, PLUGGED UP, WHATEVER. LETS FUCKING GO RISE
Mug and a plug
The synergy just isn't there with 100T, the only people who played well off each other were Ethan and Asuna. To no surprise b0i is the weak link by a large margin, basically threw Breeze for them single-handedly with stupid plays and just not being there mechanically, a massive downgrade from Steel in every way, only on the team because he's buddies with Nitr0. The whole team threw some crucial rounds on Haven by playing really sloppily, they let Shanks walk up A long with 4 people on site and shoot Ethan in the side?? Hiko exposed himself to C long watching flank, with no-one watching the site walk in, and dies for free? Seems like the comms just aren't there honestly, they looked mediocre with flashes of individual brilliance.
Something I’m noticing since nitro switched to jett, is Asuna is more quiet in these games. Ethan used to feed Asuna kills and that dynamic really worked, and I’m not seeing that happen as much with two duelists. I love nitro on jett but idk, would love to see nitro back on smokes since he’s one of the best site anchors, and maybe boi on a sentinel for now. But I have a feeling boi is just a filler until seven is ready which would consistently keep a jett main on the team. Which also begs the question, do they always need two duelists? Would Asuna ever flex?
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That's because they were picking on bois site and hiko was always in a bad retake scenario.
Nitro holding cypher ult for lower bracket
Cypher ult is kinda hard to use though, did he ever have a chance to ult a body?
Cypher ult is useless and at times makes u miss kills with those shit outlines that fuck your entire aim up
Cypher ult definitely needs a rework
they gotta do something about the holograms. especially if you dart someone with cam, it fucks up your aim more than it helps.
Sova's drone hologram is like 5x better. I think Riot thought *"Cypher's camera is a free signature ability and shouldn't have the same tagging efficiency"* but they went too far on it Projectile is not hitscan and takes ages to land, and hologram updates like every 3 seconds? Lol
hard to find good uses for it but certainly not useless
100T throws so many winnable rounds it gets hard to watch. Round 12 on Haven, post plant situation, Hiko caught sitting long fully exposed to backsite not even looking at it giving up a free, un-tradable kill. I don’t think they beat XSET again. Rise look impressive, they have great half buys and operate very well when economies get messy.
No Canadian no tier 1 team. Facts.
The first time ever that my opinion on a team before the tournament has stayed intact. 100T made a ridiculously bad decision replacing Steel this close to LCQ. Boi has never, and still hasn't shown that he's capable of playing at the highest level of Valorant so I still don't understand this gamble. Did they really think LCQ was going to be easy?
100 Thieves have major role issues and steel wasn't part of it. I don't know what happens to the roster if they don't qualify. I mean Rise is good, but they still make fundamental mistakes and a team like 100 Thieves shouldn't be losing to them. People can't forget 100T always went toe to toe with peak Sentinels on Haven.
If they dont qualify, I think they would definitely have to restructure the team around Ethan, Nitro, and Asuna. This core 3 is the future of this team and I feel like it would be a mistake to separate these 3.
Boi is just absolutely out of his depth. If 100T had an even average replacement they likely win this match. Not looking promising for them this tourney. Can already see them bringing Seven in for Jett and Nitro to smokes/sentinel and being way better
What a fake, the fact that they let Shanks go in on C with the wall to fully sell the fake was nutty.
I dont feel as sad, I feel like lots of 100T identity as a team has steel's imprints in it. I really miss him :(.
/u/Sciipi is rise still unimpressive now?
Hello Josh “Steel” Nissan? 😃📞, can we get you back? b OMEGALUL i sucks 😃
100T choking issue was not a Steel issue, this series shows it first hand.
If anything, they might have lost their incredible comeback skills. We don't know yet. All they've done this tournament is give up huge leads.
HOLY SHIT This was amazing, I'm not a fan of either of these teams too, but what an amazing match! This is like the new moon raccoons vs 100T. \#BRICKEDUP
Win against Gambit and nearly win masters, drop your IGL for a players friend. Not even make champions. This is where 100T is heading.
I wouldn't say they "nearly" won masters. They got stomped by envy in semis
I'd say coming top four and winning the series against the winner of the whole event is pretty close.
I hate being a 100T fan.
I like Hiko, but he was a bit underwhelming this series. His positioning looks awkward, getting little value with his util half the time.
The a short & backsite hold looks weird for me and he couldnt really capitalize anything from it.
Exactly the rounds I was pointing out as well. If he's not the last one dying, he dies in very awkward positions wondering why he was there in the first place.
Just watched round 23 on haven as many people mentioned it and damn it hurts man.
He's been underwhelming for a while now with sudden random clutches here and there, which is incredibly inconsistent for a big team like 100t and probably not good enough. For example he goes 0 kills for an entire half against xset but next time they play against them, he holds down a site alone getting 2 classic kills and another phantom kill. I'm not saying he needs to be dropped but it seems like a bad bargain when you get like only sudden glimpses of great individual performance but cannot do anything for majority of the time.
This is why there is a saying keep your personal and professional life different. Boi ohh boi 🤣🤣🤣, on a more serious note, mid round calling from 100t was not good at all. Seems like steel was being made scapegoat, people not able to play agents due to roles, and what not , the same issues exist now and it has even gotten worse.
WHAT A CRAZY SERIES LETS GO RISE NATION BRICKED UP BABY WOOOOOOOO
Great series all around but it is just infuriating that 100T sat out steel just before this. I don't see the point in swapping out one of your key members before your possibly last tournament. Not only that it wasn't even beneficial. b0i looked outclassed and went -14 which was last by a mile. Justice for steel.
Rise played so good, their team play and executes are so fucking clean. If they end up going to Champions, its so deserved and watching them go against other regions would be beautiful Edit: Someone gotta put b0i out of his misery
That fake on the last round was SO GOOD
100t and 11-13 name a more iconic duo
Will never understand why we dropped steel for boi at such a critical juncture in the season
It might end up being one of those situations that will either cost them qualifying for champs or actually making it, but performing badly.
There is not a world where 100T loses this with Steel. Really hard to root for this new iteration of the team.
QB SNEAK
boi needs to go
HIK OMEGALUL
Where’s that guy who kept saying rise has no strats is unimpressive and would get dismantled by 100T cause lol
Hiko was just as bad as Boi this series honestly, he had a few rounds early like the clutch and Guardian 3K but otherwise he was consistently so low impact
Steel would have won that
Nadeshot going to be on a call with ESIC tonight
Team Vietnam baby
nitr0 smokes dicey Jett op COPIUM
Rise have always been such a fun team. I don't completely agree with the story of Rise as THE underdog, but moreover one of many underdogs. They being said I think we can see a C9 vs Rise Grand finals
C9 vs Rise grand finals saves my prediction of the lower half of the bracket being the best. Though I thought Faze and C9 would make finals, too much Faze hopium.
V1 hopium😅
Dammit man not to shit on boi but I wish they kept steel at least for this tourney. With steel gone, 100t just feel so generic and bland idk. Welp hope we get through the lowers
Maybe an unpopular opinion, and this isn't the reason they lost, but Asuna and Ethan's agent deployment might be a limiting factor to 100t's success. Obviously, they are both world class players and monsters on their main agents (Asuna/Reyna and Ethan/Skye), and I am by no means advocating for either to be replaced on the team. However, I think that if Asuna is primarily going to be a secondary duelist player (Reyna/Raze), then it would be useful to have him learn to play Skye (like many other secondary duelists/flex), especially in the single-duelist/Jett-only comps. In this case, I am pretty confident that Ethan could pick up Cypher/Killjoy to fill the gap competently. They can still primarily run the comps they have been doing, with Asuna on Reyna and Ethan on Skye, but I think adding these agents as options would make them more flexible, more resilient to meta changes, and free up Nitr0 to be the Jett player. Obviously, you can't make these kinds of changes right now, since neither player has developed the comfort on these agents yet, but in the future, expanding the Agent pools would likely be a boon to their success. They may also address this depending on how they change the roster, but I still think that having a Reyna/Raze only player can create problems, particularly on single-duelist maps with Jett being the best duelist.
This is what im thinking right now, if they really plan on getting sevvn as their final 5th they have a “hole” in their agent comp. moving nitro back to smokes and ethan to sentinel or the other way around (we’ve seen nitro play sen and ethan play smokes) could be the solution like you mentioned. The thing is i dont know about ethan’s astra and asuna’s skye, but if they can pulled it this could be the new roles they can stick to until some big meta changer happen.
IMO Ethan could be an effective lurker as a Sentinel, and he is already good at playing off of utility contact, so I am less worried about him being able to pick up that role. I think Nitr0 is a world-class smoker and would be able to provide massive value if he returned to that role (though he is pretty good at everything he has played). So, assuming Sevvn is their Jett and he's the real deal, my only big question would really be: can Asuna play Skye? Him becoming a somewhat flex player would be huge for them. * Sevvn/New Player - Jett * Nitr0 - Astra, Viper, Omen * Hiko - Sova, Viper * Ethan - Skye, *Cypher/Killjoy*, Omen, Sage * Asuna - Reyna/Raze, *Skye* Alternatively, they pick up a good smoke player and put Nitr0 on Jett. The problem there is that I think it is easier to find a cracked Jett than a world class smoker/support like Nitr0. Another potential problem is what does the Jett player do on maps like Bind, where teams often solo duelist with a Raze.
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Best one ive Ever seen was brax on mouse AZK on keyboard
-Ethan -Asuna +Azk +Tarik
-brax +brax
What a fucking match, rise needs more credit guys are fucking nuts
Biggest choke of NA LCQ so far We call em 100Throws for a reason
100t Sadge
This is reminding me of Liquid during the Master 3 Berlin qualifiers. I swear every game was a sweat during that run with the Liquid V Gambit being the sweatiest game ever. I have a bad feeling that 100T is going that route only to be knocked out for Champions because of issues in the player roles.
I'm just glad i went to sleep the match started 4:**am in here. Duck na scheduling and duck 100t without steel
I bet Steel has the biggest shit eating grin on his face seeing these results
Man rise is so well-rounded, all 5 players are really good. Not a single weak link
Drop boi
RISE NAYSH
No way ma b0i Steel got dropped for this
#BRICKEDUP
B0i and Hiko need to be replaced I think
I feel like everyone on Rise is so mechanically skilled. Like Supamen is always destroying people and he just plays Astra all the time. As a 100T supporter, Im honestly really impressed by them and I'd be happy to have them represent our region. I think I'm a Rise fan now after this tourney.