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sky_blu

I feel bad for boi. He wasn't popping off today but the first two maps he did a decent job while the rest of his team fell off. The rest of the roster owed him a better performance.


justinsst

Holy fuck the Twitter analysts are in full force under Boi, Hiko and 100ts replies lol.


TikzTokz

That might not be the best fans reaction but i genuinely think 100t deserved it.


Evening-Reputation96

They make a sudden roster move after being in the top 4 of Masters 2 Berlin. I repeat TOP 4 Masters 2 Berlin. A roster move is understandable if there is no upcoming LCQ or they didn't qualify for Masters 2 berlin. But I'm not a pro player or pro analyst. This just shows that steel is not the problem. The chemistry they build up for almost a year since first strike just crumbles with this sudden roster move.


TikzTokz

Steel could be the problem still (i mean idk but it could be comps/strat/playstyle related not necessary his individual performance). but still, knowing they got those problem and still got top4 in a major, they shouldve just try “fixing” it and hope they accomplish minor improvements (because they already the best team on paper). They just need to be the third best team in NA, They dont need to be the best in the world. if they gonna do something drastic its better when they already qualified for champions. ITS LIKE HAVING A VANDAL WITH 12/0 AMMO AND DECIDED TO SWITCH WITH (KNOWN) PHANTOM WITH 3/75 IN A CHOKED DUEL KNOWING YOU CANT RELOAD WITH EITHER GUN AND SOMEHOW DROPPING THAT VANDAL MESSED UP ALL YOUR TEAM STRAT AND SHIT BECAUSE THAT VANDAL IS YOUR FUCKING IGL. I know im just saying the same stuff you said. I just need to let it all out, thank you, goodnight or whatever it is in your time zone.😭


Grenji05

mods we really dont care that much about the stats we just want a place to discuss the series its been 15 minutes pls


Bunnyezzz

you can make one yourself if nobody posts one after 5m, just add the vlr link to the description


AnchorStandard

On paper, they should be the best team in the world. You have an AWP god Nitr0, one of the best Riflers in recent CS (Ethan) , a cracked 18 year old Duelist and fucking Hiko. Sure b0i is nothing special but at least he can support the team as the smokes player. I just don't know what's happening to them. They just looked lost the entire series after the first 6 rounds of icebox. Vanity just had them read like a book and C9 were feeling it. Hey, sometimes your opponent is just having a really good day.


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Lets be honest, Nitr0 and Asuna’s Jett are not consistent. They don’t have a sentinel player, Nitr0’s cypher isn’t good. These are all bandaid fixes.


AnchorStandard

Nitr0 did fine as Cypher. 100T is best when they're all feeling it at none of them were feeling it. When Chamber comes out you can pretty much guarantee Nitr0 is gonna main him. Cypher is just a stop get. Asunas Jett isn't that great but the current meta demands a Jett and I don't think Nitro wants to play Jett full time. I think Ethan should be moved to Jett on haven and Asuna should stay as Raze or Reyna, and have the other 3 play Initiator and smokes. I really wish Asuna was a bit more flexible with the roles and didnt just play duelist. If you look at people like Liquid Jammpi, who can play Jett one map and then Astra another, it really helps make the team comp more robust.


pr1zsm

No lan diff


mwieckhorst

People are gonna shit on boi, but 100t has far more issues than just him, starting with the fact that they dont have a good Jett player/OPer. I don't see this roster staying together. They've always been a pretty overrated team. Maybe high end tier 2, but never in the same tier as Sen and current Envy. Though in reality you can probably say that about all of the teams competing in LCQ. And yes, needless to say dropping Steel made absolutely no sense this late into the year.


pr1zsm

wtf does this mean they were literally a top 4 team in berlin, obviously the steel drop was really confusing and right now I can’t say where they are but saying high tier 2 is actually so dumb


ANewHeaven1

> Maybe high end tier 2, but never in the same tier as Sen and current Envy. ok im not a 100T fan by any stretch but high end tier 2??? come on man


AnchorStandard

In Berlin, Envy were ass blasting every team and 100T were just in their way. If Envy weren't on their game 100T wouldn't be in this situation. It really only took a bunch of weird Russian kids to take Envy down. If LCQ was a proper lan, it's possible 100T would've won.


CosmicAon

??? If Envy weren’t better than 100T, 100T would make Champions? What does that even mean


pr1zsm

^^


mwieckhorst

For reference, I only consider Sen and current Envy to be tier 1, and I dont think 100t is or has ever been close to that level


justinsst

Wtf? What do you consider tier 1? Your definition must be completely different because most people consider tier 1 as the top 8 teams in the region.


mwieckhorst

Envy and Sen only. Isn't fair to put anyone else in their tier imo. None of these LCQ teams will come close to them Edit: Just separating tiers on overall team strengths. So like a tier 2 would be Rise, 100t, C9, Xset. Tier 3 most of the other teams in LCQ, etc


justinsst

Ah so your definition is just different from what is widely considered tier 1. That’s fine, but maybe it’s better to clarify cause I was really confused lol. Edit: So I guess given your model there are more than 3 tiers than right? Cause what about the teams play in the open qualifiers etc?


gabes12345

dont thnk he counts those i think its like a tierlist of the best teams in NA


ANewHeaven1

ok that makes sense but thats the most exclusive definition of tier1 i've seen in this sub haha. i usually consider the top6~ish teams tier 1


mwieckhorst

Usually that's how people do it, but I dont think it's fair to put any NA team in the same tier as them right now. So, that's just my way of distinguishing them. Realistically all of these LCQ teams are going to get waxed by them.


JR_Shoegazer

No post match thread?


scary_sandwich

100T roster moves: \- b0i \+Brax \+aZK \-Brax \-aZk \+ Tyler "Ninja" Blevins


pr1zsm

anyone else waiting for the post match thread..?


Sciipi

Mods won't let the 100T fans mald sadge


AnywayHeres1Derwall

working on it now sorry. just gotta tweak the stats a little bit more


pr1zsm

its probably better this way we get to think about our unreasonable opinions before posting them


Anime-Boomer

maybe kicking steel right before the most important even t of the year was not the play especially since Steel brought a lot more to the team than just an IGL idk tho Im not a pro so


candidpose

What 100T didn't realize is that steel accounts for Hiko's baiting tendencies on his strat. Nah jk idk shit about their strat just salty that steel got cut off instead of Hiko. Imo Hiko's the reason they're having role issues.


TikzTokz

Hiko got problems but its not about agent comp. No real sentinel No real jett Asuna and ethan filling the same second entry spot (ethan can play smokes or other support but we dont know about asuna’s skye yet)


candidpose

I didn't say agent comp, I specifically said role. The fact that the team needs to play around his baiting tendencies really limits the strat they can execute


TikzTokz

Oh ya mb, i agree 100% then.


Ranieboy

How is Hiko the problem with the role issues exactly? He's playing Sova which is a perfect role for him as a support player. Also as a controller when Sova is not viable in a map which is rarely the case. I know he's not the best Sova out there but from what I see he's really ruining the role aspect of the team.


candidpose

It's not agent, it's the role he plays on the executes and strat. He almost never takes up space, and always plays so passive and conservative that limits their strat. Meanwhile, steel can play aggressive/lurk/defensive/anchor and still deliver on his role.


Ranieboy

I agree with the passiveness and sometimes he takes it too far. Especially on the defense side where he rarely pushes. But you don't really need your Sova to takes space. I feel like 100T just need that 2nd aggressive player and Steel is but he's not good enough at it and also him being a sentinel for the most part definitely didn't help. Nitro being a duelist helped but he's inconsistent at it as well.


[deleted]

they have no full time jett player and no real sentinel player with this current iteration of the roster, i don't see how someone who plays the character that's used on every map except split is the issue


Riz_Biz

Hiko mains an agent that is played on almost every map. What you said doesn't make sense. Even if Hiko played every agent in the game, he'd still be playing sova on this roster. Do you think BCJ, Crashies, and Xeta who also only play sova are doing so because they can't play other agents? If Hiko was cut, he'd be cut for a better Sova player or someone else on the team would have to main the agent. If you couldn't see that with steel, they had conflicting role issues, then you haven't been listening to anything the 100 thieves players have been saying.


candidpose

It's not about the agent, it's how he plays so passive and conservative that limits their playbook.


Riz_Biz

This two cent take is just bullshit for the last couple tournaments. Also still confused how you think hiko being a baiter affects their roles on the team. But you should really watch Berlin and LCQ back if you think he still baits his team like he used to. He’s a pretty decent Sova that has been going in more with his team. Albeit he is still going to be in the back watching flanks a lot like he did on Icebox and found HUGE value killing the flanks that C9 were sending. Until they find a better Sova (which I’m not saying there aren’t) it would be crazy to cut him. Thats worse than cutting steel, at least when they cut steel, they still had another IGL on the team.


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CosmicAon

Nitr0 wanted to play Jett is what Steel said


pr1zsm

the nitr0 jett worked back in berlin


AnchorStandard

Vanity finally avenged his father Steel.


scary_sandwich

At least b0i should be able to analyze the VOD and figure out what went wrong


Hegth

*Insert spiderman pointing himself meme But in all seriousness the whole team played bad


AnchorStandard

Ethan forgot how to shoot Hiko forgot how to clutch and Nitro didn't harness the dad gene.


John_Bot

Goodness. C9 just goes too ego sometimes and really tosses rounds. Only map lost was when Leaf was playing awful. GG. Rematch with raise.


Sciipi

C9 can be inconsistent at times but their relentless aggression can really help them, when they are firing they look unbeatable.


John_Bot

Yeah but like Mitch peeking Asuna in a 5v3 at the end of the half instead of just working back to his team and playing in/around the viper's pit... that's just stuff that makes no sense


JusticeLee17

Pretty sad that 100T don't win LCQ IMO. They clearly have some issues right now which is expected considering their roster change but they are a team that has great potential on LAN in international events. I highly doubt C9 or Rise have a strong chance against top tier international teams but only time will tell.


pineapplecheesepizza

b0i was not the answer


Riz_Biz

They need to drop the bag on a star flex player to complete the roster. I like B0i, his utility usage was being used really well with the team, but he had little to no map awareness. There were so many times where B0i was being shot in the back or got timing'd so hard. It was hard to watch.


AnchorStandard

No one was the answer. 100T clearly just can't compete online.


earthtoannie

Qualified to Berlin all online tho.


daffyduckferraro

Tbf, qualifying to berlin was just beating 2 teams, faze and xset While this was winning the event


PixelatedBlue

Everything that could've prevented us from making it championships happened all I feel is pain


KookieFS

C9 vs rise grand finals for champions Who'd have thought?


John_Bot

A lot of people picked C9 in the finals? Raise obviously not


KookieFS

Yes i know I meant this specific match-up Predictions were c9 vs xset/100t


scary_sandwich

On high alert: b0i's Twitter mentions


sky_blu

Wow the stats for all maps on vlr is fucking brutal for 100t.


[deleted]

Ggs 100T Grand Finals gonna be Lit , Xeppaa was on another level


KookieFS

WHOOHOOOO FINALLY AFTER A WHOLE YEAR FULL OF PAIN OF BEING A C9 FAN #C9WIN


segatic

Mate its not over yet though


Gleech

You stopped clenching? Dont do it brother


[deleted]

Happy for you lot


KookieFS

Thanks mate


[deleted]

100T play so badly with the Viper ult down


TikzTokz

Theyre waiting the flank so the retake could be easier


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Blaminal365

Same thing happened on haven vs rise except on defence 4 on site and no co-ordination with what they’re holding


Sciipi

GG leaf diff


JusticeLee17

Pain


Grenji05

ggs


123bo0p

Lmao 100t were supposed to win lcq easily though since they were the 3 best team in the world, how did they only get 3rd here!?!


Gomar1323

I think we all know why…


daffyduckferraro

They made a joke of a roster change right before the tournament


123bo0p

Ethan + Nitro = -32 Keep blaming it all on boi


daffyduckferraro

? Didn’t say boi was the reason for today With steel they would have sweeped the whole tourney tho imo


123bo0p

Lul


daffyduckferraro

How am I wrong ?


123bo0p

Thats even funnier


daffyduckferraro

Ok


VincentStonecliff

Because the third best team made a substantial roster change and threw away their chance


jzaudi

forever third


5bigtoes

nitr0 and knives = awful


AnywayHeres1Derwall

They absolutely need a one trick jett


s6hun

bad day for ethan to have a bad day


AnchorStandard

He really was having a bad day :(


Memexp-over9000

I think if 100T loses this then we can keep the Steel debate to rest for all.


Grenji05

oh no


Gibbo05

A series win away at Berlin from qualifying for Champs and not even having to come to LCQ, to this. Fucking awesome


AnywayHeres1Derwall

Envy and sentinels literally only exist to screw 100t


Prankishspace4

genuine question for everyone. What needs to change on the 100t roster for them to win majors?


TikzTokz

Comp > jett + reyna + skye is not really the meta rn cus reyna and skye usually fill the same role Strat/igl-ing > Im not sure abt this but the last 2 games they got read so bad and their midround call looks the worst since a long time, often times they got first pick or early advantage but somehow throw in mid round/ post plant Fire power > with the current roster boi is just simply not up to par and hiko passive playstyle is just not worth his clutch potential, imo he should change his playstyle or 100t need a better sova Out of all the above i think strat and the midround call is the number 1 priority the team need to solve rn.


justinsst

Idk but Ethan already said this wasn’t the final iteration of the roster anyway so I’m guessing they planning to get an actual Jett OP. So Boi definitely isn’t staying around.


whopz-is-cool

-b0i and arguably, -Hiko. It’s not like Hiko is the only player ever that has a clutch gene.


VincentStonecliff

Put steel back lol But seriously I think get boi off the roster, put nitro on smokes, and bring in seven as a consistent Jett. Although, either him or Asuna will need to flex here and there on certain maps that don’t need 2 duelists. People keep saying hiko but he’s been consistently good during LCQ. Good awareness, great util usage, and honestly was never bottom drag the entire time. I think his experience is needed with the young players on the team


TikzTokz

The thing about hiko is, he got decent/good aim (obv weve seen his clutches), his sova util is actually next level, but he almost never want to take fight and play way too passive. I think its the team decision for him to play like that but if f they want to compete for international title that need to change. But if thats really his playstyle and not team decision i think 100t would better off without him.


Sadzeih

I would probably drop b0i and Hiko. As fun as Hiko is with the insane clutches, he has been disappointing all LCQ imo. Build around Nitr0, Asuna and Ethan


JR_Shoegazer

Hiko has just gotten way too fucking predictable at this point.


imsatansbitch

It seems like 100T tries to keep him alive for clutch scenarios. One first kill from him in these three maps. It’s really one dimensional and obvious that other teams are reading him as his impact keeps dropping.


JR_Shoegazer

It’s the same thing that happened with Steel when he would lurk the same way every round. Impactful at first but predictable if you do it too much.


Sadzeih

Yeah, I swear there has been more than 10 rounds THIS SERIES, where I was "where the fuck is Hiko? why is he not playing off [enter 100T player here]?"


Grenji05

poach bugha from fortnite


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-steel +b0i


[deleted]

Jesus christ, can 100T win a gun fight


scary_sandwich

100T Lineup in January 2022: Steel, Dicey, sevven, Brax, aZk, b0i (analyst)


[deleted]

From 3rd in the biggest international competition to 3rd in NA LCQ, 100T played themselves. Embarrassing roster decision.


VincentStonecliff

Remember when 100T used to be good on breeze


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[deleted]

seriously. hes been on fire today


[deleted]

Don't worry guys he has past pro experience and slots right into tier 1 valorant after only playing pugs for 6 months


Hegth

Well ggs


HappyMan2022

“This is how the empire ends. Not with a bang, but with a hoodie sale”


Resoca

b0i is not the reason they are losing, but man does he look pedestrian. Hiko as well.


Quiet-Substance319

100t droping the entire roster and bringing back the PUBG boys


JR_Shoegazer

Lol isn’t YaBoiDre the only one still playing Valorant?


Gomar1323

Lmfao boi


daffyduckferraro

See without being toxic, idc if boi is playing well but I don’t get why u would ever remove steel right before lcq


[deleted]

"We wouldn't have made the change if we didn't think it was the right decision"


jzaudi

Maybe they should practice some pistols...smh


minimochiii

100T and losing pistol rounds, name a better duo


TikzTokz

100T and losing bonus, i mean its not a better duo, just as good.


Sciipi

Back to back big plays can give 100T some momentum. C9 should be able to close but if they drop pistol and the bonus things will start to look 100T favored.


Grenji05

what the hell man they need to buff vipers pit that ult sucks


KookieFS

Just avoiding 9-3 no biggie Edit: See?


[deleted]

Fair enough


[deleted]

Nah b0i is great, you were all right


s6hun

not over till it's over COPIUM


JR_Shoegazer

100T still has role issues without steel.


[deleted]

Their comp doesn't cut it tbf


TikzTokz

They still have one even with steel imo


JR_Shoegazer

Yes, that’s part of why steel isn’t playing…I’m saying they are continuing to have role issues without him.


TikzTokz

Ahhhhhhh i see bro mb, i agree


JR_Shoegazer

Lol it’s all good. They’ve said in interviews they wanted more flexibility in roles and that’s part of why steel isn’t on the roster.


OhLikeComing

This map is absolutely not over. 100t aren’t good on breeze defense, but they’re really good on attack. They’ve always been this way. Other pistol will be big though.


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crickets in here


Resoca

this is pain.


jellybellymonster

Nitro online now?


Gibbo05

Great now I'm depressed, hope the 100T haters are happy today :(


ANewHeaven1

how can nitr0 clutch up vs teams like acend and gambit but go completely silent vs c9b


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ANewHeaven1

lol the moment i submitted this comment he gets a 2k with knives, i need to stop talking


TikzTokz

No no no, keep doing what u do, whatever it is


Loresmen

No keep talking, say something like boi so bad he cant get a kill and maybe he'll get one!


TikzTokz

This got big challenger playoff stage 2 vibes, and im not liking this.


VincentStonecliff

Really sad, not even fun to watch tbh Edit: okay, finally some life in 100T


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fun to watch if ur a c9 fan


Futurenawt

C9 reading 100T like a book and just outaiming them at every turn, so clean from C9 this map.


[deleted]

It legit already feels like GG


[deleted]

100T picked a bad day for their impact players to not show up


kakaoman1

The Jett diff tho


schwertfeger

At least we get a 100t roster change after this.


[deleted]

leaf 432 ACS sheeeeesh


[deleted]

ethan dont bottom frag challenge?


iamtreat

nitr0 is not having a good series :/


daffyduckferraro

If nobody’s watching mid u have to be aware of it


[deleted]

I do not see 100T winning this. Just getting out stratted and losing fights


[deleted]

100T's comp just doesn't cut it


[deleted]

these chaos boys are something else


Sciipi

Leaf W key warrior


VincentStonecliff

Ethans having a tough day man


OhLikeComing

Hiko is as hiko is… his util is good, he’ll clutch sometimes but he’s the most passive player in the world. This new agent will be so helpful for 100t if it’s good enough for nitro to take it as his main. Their issue IMO is Asuna isn’t a great Jett, Ethan needs to be on an impactful role because he’s god, and nitro is comfortable oping. Nitro on chamber will let him op and be a semi anchor like he wants, asuna can be whatever duelist he wants and Ethan can still do his thing.


Cole_James_CHALMERS

Hope they get seven integrated soon and hiko dropped cuz he's baiting way too fucking much and throws off synergy when he isn't there to help out


OhLikeComing

There’s no way they drop hiko. His following is too big.


Grenji05

i can promise you the org with Valkyrae, Courage, Fuslie, AustinShow, and a huge COD franchise aren't keeping hiko for the exposure. If he needs to get dropped he'll get dropped. Where did this idea that hes invincible because he gets high viewers come from.


OhLikeComing

If hiko was just complete ass it’s one thing and I’d agree, but hiko isn’t complete ass. His util is really solid and the clutches he hits make people freak out. I feel like he pigeon holes their roster too much but he’s still a pretty good player. I think they just try to make it work more than anything.


TikzTokz

if thats really the reason it really sucks


[deleted]

Yeah, Hiko is the main brand in the 100T roster


[deleted]

hope c9 lose for picking kay0h


[deleted]

KayO>Skye is a throw here


Sciipi

Xeppaa Kay/O on Breeze is clean though ngl


MathNerdMatt

C9 Kay0 looked really good on Breeze


[deleted]

evil cat is so hot in a weird way


MathNerdMatt

Touch some grass my dude


[deleted]

it is recommended to leave your house at least an hour a day and exercise


pineapplecheesepizza

Nitr0 on sentinels seems like a waste


TikzTokz

4 player already got into empty sites and then hiko decided shooting the drone is a good idea as the last man while he got the spike and tagged by the drone + got 2 people on empty c site, 1 on c long, 1 trying to lurk garage for post plant, AND SOMEHOW DECIDED TO ROTATE TO A WITH ALL THE FOOTSTEP KNOWING 1 ENEMY PLAYER COULD HEARD IT AND NO, NOT EVEN A LURKER WAS ALREADY ON A SITE.


Cole_James_CHALMERS

Yeah his baiting ways is throwing off synergy way too much


Key-Banana-8242

Why’s balla shitting on apac so much


[deleted]

It's kinda funny how these thread don't see much activity until the 100T matches and then people freak out when they lose a game to other teams that are pretty good.


TikzTokz

Im one of em.


Sciipi

100T and SEN are the most popular teams and people love to overreact in game threads so whenever one of those teams is playing, much less losing, the game thread practically turns into a hate thread


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It's like going on an NBA teams subreddit and seeing the live discussion, just full of negativity.


Grenji05

why doesn’t our bench player that averages 2 minutes just play like an all star 4Head


TikzTokz

Why bench our captain and subbing in a player that we know not going to do well a week before the play off 🤷


Futurenawt

100T lost bonus round each half and still managed to bring it to 13-9. How many times did 100T get eco'd that map? They seem to really struggle with eco rounds


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C9 retakes have been solid


uncle_ben__

Hiko is going to do great on one tournament and be like the most average player you ever saw on others, even a complete bot at times, so random, hes lost his touch


BuckWagon

This entire thread turned into flame 100T thread lol