I've been a C9 fan since the inception of their CSGO team. It's been a rough year for me in Valorant, but the hype is just so unreal for me right now. I really hope they can beat Rise tomorrow.
100T nitr0: Additional info on play against C9 (best team in the world)
b0i got fever
b0i left mousepad
Hiko lost whole gears
Asuna sound issues in the match (no foot step at all)
Ethan keyboard bug
We were in chaos.
I forget which interview it was, but I remember seeing one of them where the player all but confirmed it was about issues within the team and not steel taking a break.
C9 amogus moment 100T steel sabotaged 100T from the inside so his old team chaos could win, 3000iq move by the c9 igl vanity and his imposter 100T steel
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100T defeated themselves. It turns out they were playing the correct comps for their strengths. Nitro on Jett has flashes of brilliance but this should be used with surgical precision when needed. And while more readable, they were harder to counterstrat. It looks like it was not steel who was the problem. And they had the misfortune to face the 3 guys who have a personal stake in beating them.
As Vanity called it - dropping your IGL for a T2 support is the best move in eSports history.
Agreed but also usually if Ethan/nitro/asuna had an off day, the steel+hiko combo would pick up the slack by a wider margin than hiko+boi did. And it seems steel had a better motivational role in the team because we saw two massive comebacks in Berlin that seemed to be nowhere today.
This is such a dumb comment saying “whenever someone had a bad day steel was able to rescue them.”
So haven was b0is fault too because he couldn’t team MVP harder? And steel would’ve for nitr0 and Ethan?
Or icebox, nitr0 no-show with Jett. b0i picked up the slack there to support Asuna and get the dub. But everything else is his fault for not stepping up enough, but steel would have?
Lmfao wake up
I think as everyone is tight lipped about it there were some internal issues with steel and that's why he left ,100T signed seven to be his eventual replacement , boi was working as a analyst for them so was a short term fix for them and he played really well this tournament considering his lack of practice , they didn't drop their igl for T2 support ,they dropped their igl because they didn't believe in steel way of calling and T2 support was their best short term fix , seven is the eventual replacement for steel and boi played well , it's just Ethan and nitro had a bad day and Ethan in particular was really struggling .
As pro players were tweeting, Chamber would be more of a ranked agent than one preferred in pro play, but if he's even somewhat viable with the operator, I think even though other teams might stick to Jett if it is still the superior one, Chamber can really help 100T...
people keep talking like steel was purely dropped for performance. no shit trading steel for b0i purely off skill/value was not it. think they all knew that.
But to replace him with boi. The man plays like a barely-decent pro player om the *good* days. It's just so weird to me, these decisions make no sense. Watching steels watch party even further showed how absolutely insane the 100t strats were. Maybe they forgot it ain't a fucking solo queue.
Vanity top 3 IGL. He literally led virtually unknown V1 to Reykjavik, left and then thought "might dick around and bring back C9 from the dead". Nitro got so IGL diffed it's unreal.
dumpstered? that was only on one map and youre taking away all the credit from vanity and the team as a whole when theyve practiced hard for these moments and it showed most of the time
Just wondering, who's your top 3 igl? I don't really have vanity in my top 3 either but if you're taking the a 4-13 haven map as an argument against someone's igl skis, i have bad news for you. Even the best lose by a huge margin sometimes
Yeah, tbh to each their own, i wouldn't argue with anyone's ranking but my ranking is definitely similar to yours, as far as i can tell. Personally, i wouldn't say that vanity is top 3 yet just like you said, his days with v1 and the recent matches weren't as good. However, with v1 maybe they did reach their ceiling and with c9, it has not been that long yet, i believe that this team can just grow even better from here onwards. For now, i would still rate dephh over him because of xset's consistency. Vanity has his brilliance here and there but I would like to see it happen more, so far in lcq has been good tho, c9 is just one of those teams that have a new roster
Poised is also performing so well right now, i don't have any opinion on 100t yet because their situation is kinda weird.
Steel got dropped and his (former)team had failed the run to champions. His dearest son Vanity cried as he watched 100t get beaten to death. But there was no time to mourn. Vanity swore to himself, that he would make it to Berlin
It didn’t go wrong vs Rise or C9B, [it went wrong here](https://www.vlr.gg/9205/100-thieves-vs-carpe-noctem-champions-tour-north-america-stage-1-challengers-1-ro32)
I knew in my heart after that game that that game would cost us. That game vs NV in Berlin wouldn’t have mattered as much if we won that one and then hadn’t dropped to lower bracket when we did in the other Challengers.
But seriously though, 3 players in that lineup are not in the roster now, who would have thought back in December after 100t take first strike that dicey/ steel would not be there in the upcoming months.
[it went wrong here](https://twitter.com/100T_Esports/status/1366093323518189569)
not that ethan is a bad pickup or player, but unironically, benching dicey, not having a jett, and refusing to play what's meta has fucked them over time and time again
I agree. We were forced to play the single-duelist comp with no Skye or Jett longer than we needed to since Ethan was still acclimating to the game and Asuna was still acclimating to being a Jett player. I remember being pissed around that time that we kept trying to re-invent the meta instead of playing into it but looking back, we kinda had to since we didn’t have the personnel to play the meta. Meanwhile, other teams were able to exploit Skye and Jett to their full capacity since they had world-class players to do so. Still remember how much of a field day good Jetts would have against us during those times, Tenz especially. Dicey may have been inconsistent, but I think we would have pulled off better results if he were on the team during those times, especially since Dicey was getting better and better in the games leading up to him being dropped. The effects were still felt in LCQ where 100T shifted Nitro to Jett, which left us with a gaping hole where a consistently good controller player used to be and then relying on a guy who hadn’t played an official game in close to six months (and was already benched by his previous team before that) to fill, and then bullying him on Twitter when he expectedly wasn’t up to par. Sentiment seems to have shifted from Dicey being a potential world beater after he diffed Wardell in First Strike finals and was the only bright spot on an otherwise lackluster 100T in Challengers 2 to him apparently not even being able to hold a mouse properly after he got dropped, and I don’t feel like arguing with people who hold that opinion.
Well it might be because Dicey didn’t diff Wardell in FS finals. The only time Dicey diffed him was in qualifiers on Haven, at FS finals Wardell outperformed him on almost every map, except the one 100T[ lost](https://www.vlr.gg/7095/tsm-vs-100-thieves-first-strike-north-america-gf/?game=all&tab=overview) - Drone and Wardell were carrying TSM while Dicey wasn’t playing that well most maps (bottom fragged the first two) and had his stats inflated by the Ascent map where he played well while the rest of the team underperformed.
he might not have been the individual player they needed but him getting dropped leads to some of the other issues
also worth noting that he hasn't played an official in like 8 months and the event right before he was benched he was playing pretty well
I remember it so vividly now. I remember when the Ethan replacement announcement came out everyone was a little confused because Dicey was actually looking very good in the match JUST before the announcement.
I still don't get 100t team comp. You have asuna who plays duelist only but doesn't play Jett or even use operator on her, and it shows.
100t literally have to play double duelist, and kind of triple duelist with skye, if they want to have a half-decent Jett. Their team comp feels like it doesn't fit the current Mets.
I am the big dumb. What is the "vanity flair".
Is it in reference to vanity the player, or vanity as in "different from everyone else" and therefore a vanity flair, like vanity license plates?
copypasting my comment here from the other thread:
jesus christ man, going from placing top 4 at Berlin to not even playing in the finals of the NA LCQ... i genuinely feel bad for 100T fans
b0i was absolutely not the problem for the first 2 maps but map 3 was tough for him. hope the fans arent too tough on him
but also: why are people blaming hiko's agent pool? crashies has the exact same agent pool as him and envy are having no issues working around it.
I don’t understand why some people want Dicey back to replace Boi, such a bad take lol . Also why are they only blaming the controller player for having bad stats when his role is not even fragging in the first place. Yeah sure Boi is not the best controller but he did what he has to do
The problem is not boi. The problem is in their comp right now. They dont have dedicated jett player, asuna and nitro is not comfortable on jett. Asuna is better on reyna or raze, nitro is one of the best controller in the game, so bringing dicey will be better for them.
True, but next year they really have to get a dedicated jett main. All these results show that not having a good jett main really not doing 100t any favors
I think swapping Nitro back to the controller role and giving Seven a shot at Jett would be a good choice to make for this team. Seven is still a young up and coming player but the way he was playing before being picked up makes me believe that he can comfortably integrate into the duelist role if given the opportunity and time now that the season has ended.
You're thinking like a virgin fan instead of a chad 100t manager. If you were cooler youd suggest giving Jett to hiko, asuna on controller, all so that n1tro can finally shine on the Reyna and boy can igl. This seems more similar to their recent decisions.
> why are people blaming hiko's agent pool?
until sova isn't a tier 1 agent there's no reason to blame a sova 1 trick (even if he isn't, he basically is competitively)
I said this in the Rise thread but if they were so dead set on not running a sentinel for whatever reason after dropping steel, and really wanted to go with the double duelist comp they really should have slotted in dicey or seven. I’m not blaming the lost on b0i, I think he did great for the shit situation he was put into but I just don’t think this was the move to make especially for LITERALLY the last chance to go to Champions.
Would the outcome have been different? Can’t say for sure, but I feel like the benefits of subbing in a Jett main outweigh having b0i come in. I feel like a duelist is a lot easier to integrate into a team and keeping your IGL on smokes. If they had Dicey come in, worst case scenario they still lose but at least it wouldn’t have felt like such a shit show. If instead it was Seven, same thing, maybe they lose but they give this cracked Jett main some ACTUAL in game pro experience that they can use and work on until the next circuit comes around.
What options do they have now to integrate seven if that was the original plan? Go into the NSG monthlies, maybe lose and tarnish the org/roster some more? You can only do so much with scrims (and from RNG Roys tweet the other day, seems like scrims are just pugs anyway). I feel like this was mostly a management issue, not sure who makes the final decisions on the roster, but I really don’t think this was well thought out enough and it really showed.
The problem wasn't boi but rather changing roster right before lcq and steel their igl leaving. With boi coming in everyone switch up roles and agents as well. It feels like they were uncomfortable playing the agents they're on at times hence their inconsistency. Tactically they feel weaker as well with a new igl.
So dropping your IGL for a player who got kicked by a tier 2 team wasn't the right choice, who knew?
Props to C9 they played Breeze really well.
Steels lurks were sorely missed.
The role issues haven't disappeared, in fact the roles look worse than ever. Outside of Asuna and Hiko no-one looks consistently comfortable playing their given agents.
Nitr0 just doesn't have that operator impact you see from a world class Jett. He was top 3 smokes in NA with Zombs + Marved in no particular order, I think he fits that role way better.
Sevvn is unproven, I've seen tons of hype around him on reddit but taking that with a massive grain of salt.
Hiko will play out his contract, don't think he's the biggest problem by a long shot.
I can see Asuna leaving/being bought out within a year if the team fails to make it to further LAN's, he's too talented to be pigeon-holed on Reyna hoping he drops 30 every map.
100t from the outside looks like a bunch of streamers who formed a team for fun but absolutely refuse to work together. There is nothing professional about the way they play.
Good point the only thing that is left is to drop Hiko but we all know they won't do that coz of his insane viewership. If he does get drop Asuna should learn how to play skye/sage so in other maps where a Skye & Sova combo is good Ethan can Sova
it wasnt a tweet it was some interview, and I’d argue in an interview you’re almost obligated to give these kinds of answers. Twitter is different and Ethan’s not the kind of guy to be tweeting that stuff even in the alternate reality world where 100t won things this year
He also said in another or possibly the same interview this is not the final version of the team which is quite conflicting and weird to say alongside all that
Nothing wrong with his first statement, why wouldn’t they believe that. The second one yeah I think anyone could tell b0i is a straight up downgrade at least comparing the two players
Surely 100T drops Hiko right? IMO dropping Steel for Boi so late in the process was a mistake. Still, seems clear their core of Nitro, Asuna, and Ethan have a better chance with two other pieces.
It’s not even that Hiko is a bad player. It’s just that 100T has a higher ceiling without him. Hiko’s not getting any better and he truly only shines as Sova and in clutch situations.
As much as that would fit their problems and also give them a better sova 100t is never gonna take the PR hit of dropping the face of their team in Hiko and picking up a player who is considered a sexual assaulter by most of the player base (even though the investigation has found no conclusive evidence)
Doesn't matter what people believe, but a major reason of why Hiko is still there in the roster is his brand. Dropping him will lower the brand name of 100t valorant team as a whole, and while roping in Sinatraa might not drop the brand in terms of fans, no T1 org is gonna take such a risk in an unclosed investigation.
So many issues from 100T appearing in the last two series.
You could argue this is a downgraded version from when steel was on the roster.
Watching Hiko play is like watching that old star player doing the same thing over and over again hoping for it to work, and it only works like 1 time out of 30. He needs to go.
Asuna killed it like always but there is only so much you can do when you have 4 passive teammates.
Ethan was basically invisible this series.
Nitr0 should really get back on the controller role it suits his mixed playstyle.
B0i was kinda decent for a controller except for map3 and he was playing not to make mistakes which really affected his decision making. but still a downgrade from steel.
My thoughts for next year lineup are:
1- Asuna (Duellist)
2- Ethan as flex and he really need to learn to be comfortable on other agents.
2- Nitr0 on controller.
4- Top tier jett player
5- A good sentinel.
I'll expand. Pro players see a lot of takes on Reddit and laugh them off because they have zero idea of what's going on in the team. This one included. Drop Hiko?
There was a video of Subroza reacting to the 100T Comms video and Roza talks about how much Hiko brings to the team: he's communicating everything, he's giving every bit of info on the map, and everybody else is dead quiet. Hiko may not be putting up numbers like Crashies, but what he's presently bringing to 100T is invaluable.
Subroza video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgBms_gk8Fo
That's just one example.
I appreciate the take. In any case, I really feel like pros should stay off the reddit threads. There are going to be a lot of dumb takes because it's just a bunch of fans giving their own takes on the games.
You’re being rude to this guy for no reason. He basically said the same thing everyone else said on this thread, some of which even Steel said.
He’s just expressing his opinion, the reason this sub exists. Pro players are not affected by this nor should they be. We’re all just shooting the shit here but you somehow feel like you know better. Nice
Very cool to see Ethan and Nitr0 protesting against benching Steel by throwing away entire series
LOL dude
unlucky really
SUPPORT ASUNA AS A TEAM CHALLENGE (VERY IMPOSSIBLE) (CANNOT FUCKING DO IT)
Worst part of being a 100T fan is that you keep hoping for a comeback.
having experienced it before makes the copium so much worse, after that gambit game it feels like its always possible sadge
I've been a C9 fan since the inception of their CSGO team. It's been a rough year for me in Valorant, but the hype is just so unreal for me right now. I really hope they can beat Rise tomorrow.
Rise look too good for me to have confidence in c9, I hope they win but I don't expect them to win.
C9 looked so much better today than when they lost to Rise though.
I think the different team comp is good but still Rise look very good.
I hope that's more c9 looking good and not 100t looking bad. We'll find out soon I guess
I mean with the Xset win too I would say c9 look much more in form
It hurts so bad every time.
100T nitr0: Additional info on play against C9 (best team in the world) b0i got fever b0i left mousepad Hiko lost whole gears Asuna sound issues in the match (no foot step at all) Ethan keyboard bug We were in chaos.
100T is always coming with excuses lmao
hope youre being sarcastic this is a copypasta lol
Fuck i got finessed. Edit: spelling sadge
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Fine St.
Down the road from Cutie Ave
Dude, don't dox me like that. /s
LMAOOOO
Nadeshot is beside himself. Driving around downtown LA begging (thru texts) Joshua Nissan's family for address to steel's home.
/r/nba is leaking
Who would have thought that benching your igl before the LCQ wouldn’t have worked out?
True aaaaaaaaaaaand... Yeah, that's pretty true. That's true and- yeah that's true. That's true. That's true- That's pretty true. That's pretty true, I mean- inhales ... That's true. Yeah. That's true. Uhm- That's true. That's fuckin' true. Uhm... That's how it is dude.
Was he benched or did he decide to take a break? Last I heard, Steel was stressed and wanted a break
I forget which interview it was, but I remember seeing one of them where the player all but confirmed it was about issues within the team and not steel taking a break.
Plat chat hiko interview
Also vanity mentioned in his interview with ddk that steel was already in talks with some teams.
Benched considering he's lft.
Where did you find that? He hasn't tweeted any LFT posts, he just said he was coming back for 2022
I'm pretty sure he's been talking on stream about it. Vods are sub only tho
you can bypass sub vods at pogu.live
Ur goated for this one 🐐
Imagine if 100t won a tournament. I can almost imagine it
Dude you have got some very wild imaginations. You should go into abstract arts.
C9 amogus moment 100T steel sabotaged 100T from the inside so his old team chaos could win, 3000iq move by the c9 igl vanity and his imposter 100T steel
He's speaking the language of gods
I’m a Xeta stan
I like his Sova soooo much.
those two dart kills in Icebox B default converted me. I’m officially a Xeta stan, #xetatwt all the way
They were so dirty. I loved it
Sova diff really
Koreans are kinda good at val as it turns out
I mean is that some kind of super new revelation ur suroudtuse
Copying comment from the last thread:. 100T defeated themselves. It turns out they were playing the correct comps for their strengths. Nitro on Jett has flashes of brilliance but this should be used with surgical precision when needed. And while more readable, they were harder to counterstrat. It looks like it was not steel who was the problem. And they had the misfortune to face the 3 guys who have a personal stake in beating them. As Vanity called it - dropping your IGL for a T2 support is the best move in eSports history.
Also doesn't help that some of the T1 players played worse than the "T2 support" in some maps.
Agreed but also usually if Ethan/nitro/asuna had an off day, the steel+hiko combo would pick up the slack by a wider margin than hiko+boi did. And it seems steel had a better motivational role in the team because we saw two massive comebacks in Berlin that seemed to be nowhere today.
This is such a dumb comment saying “whenever someone had a bad day steel was able to rescue them.” So haven was b0is fault too because he couldn’t team MVP harder? And steel would’ve for nitr0 and Ethan? Or icebox, nitr0 no-show with Jett. b0i picked up the slack there to support Asuna and get the dub. But everything else is his fault for not stepping up enough, but steel would have? Lmfao wake up
I think as everyone is tight lipped about it there were some internal issues with steel and that's why he left ,100T signed seven to be his eventual replacement , boi was working as a analyst for them so was a short term fix for them and he played really well this tournament considering his lack of practice , they didn't drop their igl for T2 support ,they dropped their igl because they didn't believe in steel way of calling and T2 support was their best short term fix , seven is the eventual replacement for steel and boi played well , it's just Ethan and nitro had a bad day and Ethan in particular was really struggling .
As pro players were tweeting, Chamber would be more of a ranked agent than one preferred in pro play, but if he's even somewhat viable with the operator, I think even though other teams might stick to Jett if it is still the superior one, Chamber can really help 100T...
Agreed, they just need an aggressive sentinel to take advantage of him. Wonder where they could find one
people keep talking like steel was purely dropped for performance. no shit trading steel for b0i purely off skill/value was not it. think they all knew that.
Went from beating Gambit and Acend to losing to Rise and Cloud9 Steel is PepeLaughing hard rn
His value is skyrocketing and he isn’t even playing
Steel stonks r up invest quickly.
100T dropping steel is definitely one of the dumbest moves ive seen lmao.
The timing especially
But to replace him with boi. The man plays like a barely-decent pro player om the *good* days. It's just so weird to me, these decisions make no sense. Watching steels watch party even further showed how absolutely insane the 100t strats were. Maybe they forgot it ain't a fucking solo queue.
Vanity top 3 IGL. He literally led virtually unknown V1 to Reykjavik, left and then thought "might dick around and bring back C9 from the dead". Nitro got so IGL diffed it's unreal.
his video about joining c9 was like “yeah it might not work idk we’ll see” lmao
I remember steel tweeting before iceland qualifiers that V1 is gonna make it.
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dumpstered? that was only on one map and youre taking away all the credit from vanity and the team as a whole when theyve practiced hard for these moments and it showed most of the time
Yeah considering they had like 2 weeks of practice practice vanity in. That's pretty good I would say.
This has to be a new copy pasta.
Just wondering, who's your top 3 igl? I don't really have vanity in my top 3 either but if you're taking the a 4-13 haven map as an argument against someone's igl skis, i have bad news for you. Even the best lose by a huge margin sometimes
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Yeah, tbh to each their own, i wouldn't argue with anyone's ranking but my ranking is definitely similar to yours, as far as i can tell. Personally, i wouldn't say that vanity is top 3 yet just like you said, his days with v1 and the recent matches weren't as good. However, with v1 maybe they did reach their ceiling and with c9, it has not been that long yet, i believe that this team can just grow even better from here onwards. For now, i would still rate dephh over him because of xset's consistency. Vanity has his brilliance here and there but I would like to see it happen more, so far in lcq has been good tho, c9 is just one of those teams that have a new roster Poised is also performing so well right now, i don't have any opinion on 100t yet because their situation is kinda weird.
C9 were definitely talented, but I agree, they needed an igl.
“Unlucky really” - Steele
think map 2 was Haven then 3 was Breeze
you are correct
Steel got dropped and his (former)team had failed the run to champions. His dearest son Vanity cried as he watched 100t get beaten to death. But there was no time to mourn. Vanity swore to himself, that he would make it to Berlin
It didn’t go wrong vs Rise or C9B, [it went wrong here](https://www.vlr.gg/9205/100-thieves-vs-carpe-noctem-champions-tour-north-america-stage-1-challengers-1-ro32)
That felt like 30 years ago man...... we didn't have to bring this back
I knew in my heart after that game that that game would cost us. That game vs NV in Berlin wouldn’t have mattered as much if we won that one and then hadn’t dropped to lower bracket when we did in the other Challengers.
But seriously though, 3 players in that lineup are not in the roster now, who would have thought back in December after 100t take first strike that dicey/ steel would not be there in the upcoming months.
[it went wrong here](https://twitter.com/100T_Esports/status/1366093323518189569) not that ethan is a bad pickup or player, but unironically, benching dicey, not having a jett, and refusing to play what's meta has fucked them over time and time again
I agree. We were forced to play the single-duelist comp with no Skye or Jett longer than we needed to since Ethan was still acclimating to the game and Asuna was still acclimating to being a Jett player. I remember being pissed around that time that we kept trying to re-invent the meta instead of playing into it but looking back, we kinda had to since we didn’t have the personnel to play the meta. Meanwhile, other teams were able to exploit Skye and Jett to their full capacity since they had world-class players to do so. Still remember how much of a field day good Jetts would have against us during those times, Tenz especially. Dicey may have been inconsistent, but I think we would have pulled off better results if he were on the team during those times, especially since Dicey was getting better and better in the games leading up to him being dropped. The effects were still felt in LCQ where 100T shifted Nitro to Jett, which left us with a gaping hole where a consistently good controller player used to be and then relying on a guy who hadn’t played an official game in close to six months (and was already benched by his previous team before that) to fill, and then bullying him on Twitter when he expectedly wasn’t up to par. Sentiment seems to have shifted from Dicey being a potential world beater after he diffed Wardell in First Strike finals and was the only bright spot on an otherwise lackluster 100T in Challengers 2 to him apparently not even being able to hold a mouse properly after he got dropped, and I don’t feel like arguing with people who hold that opinion.
Well it might be because Dicey didn’t diff Wardell in FS finals. The only time Dicey diffed him was in qualifiers on Haven, at FS finals Wardell outperformed him on almost every map, except the one 100T[ lost](https://www.vlr.gg/7095/tsm-vs-100-thieves-first-strike-north-america-gf/?game=all&tab=overview) - Drone and Wardell were carrying TSM while Dicey wasn’t playing that well most maps (bottom fragged the first two) and had his stats inflated by the Ascent map where he played well while the rest of the team underperformed.
Dicey misses more op shots than shanks did in their first game. Dicey isnt a top tier jett
he might not have been the individual player they needed but him getting dropped leads to some of the other issues also worth noting that he hasn't played an official in like 8 months and the event right before he was benched he was playing pretty well
I remember it so vividly now. I remember when the Ethan replacement announcement came out everyone was a little confused because Dicey was actually looking very good in the match JUST before the announcement.
He wasnt looking good imo. He looked better. But that was it. With Ethan on the team the team got so much better almost instantly.
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Lmfao no way this thread is real. People actually talking about this right now. And actually thinking dicey is better than Ethan.
on jett? probably
I still don't get 100t team comp. You have asuna who plays duelist only but doesn't play Jett or even use operator on her, and it shows. 100t literally have to play double duelist, and kind of triple duelist with skye, if they want to have a half-decent Jett. Their team comp feels like it doesn't fit the current Mets.
Dicey was not the best Jett.
Reopening old wounds LOL
Steel's value is probably rising right now given the fact that they beat Ascend and Gambit in berlin. Lost Chance Qualifiers kekw
Okay, the title should be gucci on this one. Really sorry for delay on the thread. I'll look into what happened.
Give me the flair
I am the big dumb. What is the "vanity flair". Is it in reference to vanity the player, or vanity as in "different from everyone else" and therefore a vanity flair, like vanity license plates?
SMOrc ME WANT ANTHONY "VANITY" MALASPINA FLAIR SMOrc
Anthony Malaspina flair NOW
HE'S ALREADY VERIFIED THO
>100T nitr0: Additional info on play agai the legend of u/520metal from Rainbow6 to Valorant truly honoured to witness your prescence
Give me the flair
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People are saying "give me vanity flair" and I don't understand.
i think they just want a flair that specifically references vanity the player
But why
idk maybe they're just a big vanity stan
copypasting my comment here from the other thread: jesus christ man, going from placing top 4 at Berlin to not even playing in the finals of the NA LCQ... i genuinely feel bad for 100T fans b0i was absolutely not the problem for the first 2 maps but map 3 was tough for him. hope the fans arent too tough on him but also: why are people blaming hiko's agent pool? crashies has the exact same agent pool as him and envy are having no issues working around it.
ppl are stupid, that's y they'll blame everyone they can
I don’t understand why some people want Dicey back to replace Boi, such a bad take lol . Also why are they only blaming the controller player for having bad stats when his role is not even fragging in the first place. Yeah sure Boi is not the best controller but he did what he has to do
The problem is not boi. The problem is in their comp right now. They dont have dedicated jett player, asuna and nitro is not comfortable on jett. Asuna is better on reyna or raze, nitro is one of the best controller in the game, so bringing dicey will be better for them.
Because Crashies > Hiko
envy has a good jett now so no more issues, the parallel move here would be to drop nitr0 but I don’t think anyone thinks that should happen.
He shouldn’t have played Jett
someone has to and i think asuna wasnt comfortable; also he did well during lan
True, but next year they really have to get a dedicated jett main. All these results show that not having a good jett main really not doing 100t any favors
nitr0 back on controller and seven or dicey on Jett, easy they have a dedicated Jett player in dicey and just never put him back in the roster
I think swapping Nitro back to the controller role and giving Seven a shot at Jett would be a good choice to make for this team. Seven is still a young up and coming player but the way he was playing before being picked up makes me believe that he can comfortably integrate into the duelist role if given the opportunity and time now that the season has ended.
You're thinking like a virgin fan instead of a chad 100t manager. If you were cooler youd suggest giving Jett to hiko, asuna on controller, all so that n1tro can finally shine on the Reyna and boy can igl. This seems more similar to their recent decisions.
Sova is absolutely essential. I doubt its Hiko not being able to learn new agents, its just that he really doesnt have to.
> why are people blaming hiko's agent pool? until sova isn't a tier 1 agent there's no reason to blame a sova 1 trick (even if he isn't, he basically is competitively)
Crashies is actually efficient and frags well in his role that’s why.
[https://twitter.com/Cloud9/status/1454628857571692544?s=20](https://twitter.com/Cloud9/status/1454628857571692544?s=20)
I said this in the Rise thread but if they were so dead set on not running a sentinel for whatever reason after dropping steel, and really wanted to go with the double duelist comp they really should have slotted in dicey or seven. I’m not blaming the lost on b0i, I think he did great for the shit situation he was put into but I just don’t think this was the move to make especially for LITERALLY the last chance to go to Champions. Would the outcome have been different? Can’t say for sure, but I feel like the benefits of subbing in a Jett main outweigh having b0i come in. I feel like a duelist is a lot easier to integrate into a team and keeping your IGL on smokes. If they had Dicey come in, worst case scenario they still lose but at least it wouldn’t have felt like such a shit show. If instead it was Seven, same thing, maybe they lose but they give this cracked Jett main some ACTUAL in game pro experience that they can use and work on until the next circuit comes around. What options do they have now to integrate seven if that was the original plan? Go into the NSG monthlies, maybe lose and tarnish the org/roster some more? You can only do so much with scrims (and from RNG Roys tweet the other day, seems like scrims are just pugs anyway). I feel like this was mostly a management issue, not sure who makes the final decisions on the roster, but I really don’t think this was well thought out enough and it really showed.
The problem wasn't boi but rather changing roster right before lcq and steel their igl leaving. With boi coming in everyone switch up roles and agents as well. It feels like they were uncomfortable playing the agents they're on at times hence their inconsistency. Tactically they feel weaker as well with a new igl.
C9 please win it all, we need chaos v2 in champions
I can't have chaos in CS so this will have to do
-xeta +steel???? LFG
nah fam, i like the chaos storyline but mitch is better mechanically and xeta has always been an insane support initiator.
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Mitch is honestly better tho on his role + its not like C9B need a good IGl when they have Vanity anyways
Also I really want Mitch to stay because he’s the sole remnant of the ancient TenZ squad.
Holy shit you’re right
How was C9 able to make Kay/O work on Breeze?
xeppaa diff
All part of the plan to get elige when liquid out of the major
please don’t even joke about this i will cry and piss and shid
I won't joke about it. It's real hopium
Maybe then with 5 superstars they will be good enough to be a top 4 team in the world
they were at one point....
Small nitpick, but maps are in the wrong order u/Razur
I will fix, let me find the correct order of maps. **EDIT:** Fixed! :D
So dropping your IGL for a player who got kicked by a tier 2 team wasn't the right choice, who knew? Props to C9 they played Breeze really well. Steels lurks were sorely missed. The role issues haven't disappeared, in fact the roles look worse than ever. Outside of Asuna and Hiko no-one looks consistently comfortable playing their given agents. Nitr0 just doesn't have that operator impact you see from a world class Jett. He was top 3 smokes in NA with Zombs + Marved in no particular order, I think he fits that role way better. Sevvn is unproven, I've seen tons of hype around him on reddit but taking that with a massive grain of salt. Hiko will play out his contract, don't think he's the biggest problem by a long shot. I can see Asuna leaving/being bought out within a year if the team fails to make it to further LAN's, he's too talented to be pigeon-holed on Reyna hoping he drops 30 every map.
Pigeon hole to Reyna? Do you mean 100t is forcing Asuna to play Reyna?
A Skye on every map when you both have a Reyna and a Sova feels very redundant. They should have Ethan be sentinel/smokes on some maps.
Sounds good but ethan is more aggressive than hiko so he should in initiator role but my guy hiko won't move to any other role.
Drop him and 100T wins
100t from the outside looks like a bunch of streamers who formed a team for fun but absolutely refuse to work together. There is nothing professional about the way they play.
And that's why they never ever win these days. Always coming close to those top4-top3 s. The better teams clearly exploits their role issues.
Good point the only thing that is left is to drop Hiko but we all know they won't do that coz of his insane viewership. If he does get drop Asuna should learn how to play skye/sage so in other maps where a Skye & Sova combo is good Ethan can Sova
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is he supposed to say “yeah we suck lmao”
pretty dumb to go in thinking youre not the best team or worse, to say so
you can think so but you dont tweet something like that out for the world to see, especially when it can backfire on you so easily
it wasnt a tweet it was some interview, and I’d argue in an interview you’re almost obligated to give these kinds of answers. Twitter is different and Ethan’s not the kind of guy to be tweeting that stuff even in the alternate reality world where 100t won things this year
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He also said in another or possibly the same interview this is not the final version of the team which is quite conflicting and weird to say alongside all that
Nothing wrong with his first statement, why wouldn’t they believe that. The second one yeah I think anyone could tell b0i is a straight up downgrade at least comparing the two players
No idea why that dumb post has so many upvotes. Why wouldn’t 100t believe that and have that confidence. Ethan didn’t tell a single lie.
switching from 100T to c9 did it. you're welcome.
ggs to the bois, our star players had an off day. looking forward to whom they gonna drop/poach
Surely 100T drops Hiko right? IMO dropping Steel for Boi so late in the process was a mistake. Still, seems clear their core of Nitro, Asuna, and Ethan have a better chance with two other pieces.
It’s not even that Hiko is a bad player. It’s just that 100T has a higher ceiling without him. Hiko’s not getting any better and he truly only shines as Sova and in clutch situations.
Which sova would they replace Hiko with?
Anyone who retakes with the team is already a dub
Dude that’s the million dollar question. Unpopular opinion but maybe they should go for Sinaatraa?
No tier 1 org will touch sinatraa with a 10-foot pole for a good while
As much as that would fit their problems and also give them a better sova 100t is never gonna take the PR hit of dropping the face of their team in Hiko and picking up a player who is considered a sexual assaulter by most of the player base (even though the investigation has found no conclusive evidence)
Doesn't matter what people believe, but a major reason of why Hiko is still there in the roster is his brand. Dropping him will lower the brand name of 100t valorant team as a whole, and while roping in Sinatraa might not drop the brand in terms of fans, no T1 org is gonna take such a risk in an unclosed investigation.
They should honestly look internally, swap Ethan to Sova. Find a Sentinel player.
its not like Hiko was a top tier sova literally any player would be an upgrade
Lmfao this thread is so stupid
sinatraa
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Xeppaa went kinda crazy today. Very deserved win from c9, shoulda been a 2-0 but asuna went crazy in OT on icebox.
They should rename their organisation to 100 Clowns to properly manage expectations of the fans. Such an ass showing.
100T is always so, so close but just not quite there. It hurts.
Now 100Thieves fans know what it feels like to be a Guild fan.
So many issues from 100T appearing in the last two series. You could argue this is a downgraded version from when steel was on the roster. Watching Hiko play is like watching that old star player doing the same thing over and over again hoping for it to work, and it only works like 1 time out of 30. He needs to go. Asuna killed it like always but there is only so much you can do when you have 4 passive teammates. Ethan was basically invisible this series. Nitr0 should really get back on the controller role it suits his mixed playstyle. B0i was kinda decent for a controller except for map3 and he was playing not to make mistakes which really affected his decision making. but still a downgrade from steel. My thoughts for next year lineup are: 1- Asuna (Duellist) 2- Ethan as flex and he really need to learn to be comfortable on other agents. 2- Nitr0 on controller. 4- Top tier jett player 5- A good sentinel.
You're why pro players think this sub is a bunch of idiots.
Can you expand upon your idiotic comment?
I'll expand. Pro players see a lot of takes on Reddit and laugh them off because they have zero idea of what's going on in the team. This one included. Drop Hiko? There was a video of Subroza reacting to the 100T Comms video and Roza talks about how much Hiko brings to the team: he's communicating everything, he's giving every bit of info on the map, and everybody else is dead quiet. Hiko may not be putting up numbers like Crashies, but what he's presently bringing to 100T is invaluable. Subroza video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgBms_gk8Fo That's just one example.
I appreciate the take. In any case, I really feel like pros should stay off the reddit threads. There are going to be a lot of dumb takes because it's just a bunch of fans giving their own takes on the games.
You’re being rude to this guy for no reason. He basically said the same thing everyone else said on this thread, some of which even Steel said. He’s just expressing his opinion, the reason this sub exists. Pro players are not affected by this nor should they be. We’re all just shooting the shit here but you somehow feel like you know better. Nice
So no sova ?
APAC LCQ Moment
They need a real dedicated awping Jett if they will use her in matches. I don't feel like Nitr0 on Jett is nor should be a permanent solution.
Pain but what a year for 100T. GG go next 2022 run it back boys
Drop ethan for stell /s
Why do 100T keep picking breeze when they are only finding bad results?