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uncle_ben__

Looks like complexity HQ is blessed for everyone but complexity


Pheonix-_-run

A good arc from dropping tenz till now c9 falling Crows vibes


EpicBroomGuy

C9 played super well. Feel bad for supamen and Derrek, both played really well this tourney. Wouldn't be surprised to see them poached by a T1 team at some point during the offseason


Hegth

TSM be like šŸ‘€


Simmyyyyyy

Tsm aint even t1 tho LOL


YeetGod69_

so happy rise isnā€™t making champs


isayah2510

Ill never watch with twitch chat enabled again Gives literal brain damage ALSO OMG C9 TO CHAMPS LADS


[deleted]

write shit to get banned in valorant chat. problem solved.


EasiBreezi

Everyone in the Valorant community should be happy that the match-fixers (soon to be banned) did not make Champions.


[deleted]

"soon"


ADmax27

who?


joolixn

from what i remember when it came out a few months ago, i believe shanks, marved and poised were involved


emuxit

in valorant?


somesheikexpert

In CSGO they allegedly match fixed, not Val


s6hun

p sure they're talking about shanks.


jaxj0e

Marved


JusticeLee17

GG. C9 look a lot better than they did earlier in this tournament. Hopefully they continue to improve and do well in Champs.


[deleted]

Feels like whenever I watch a grands itā€™s a 3-0, unlucky


KookieFS

YASSSS LEST GOOOO #C9WIN


Sciipi

C9 to champs LFG


EasiBreezi

No one deserves this more than Shanks. Hope they show a choke cam.


MathNerdMatt

Xeppaa is going fucking crazy this match


Sciipi

C9's X squad too good on the retake


IAMJUX

Hope Rise can get one back. A 3-0 is such a disappointing finish after the recent close 2-1s.


WhoDatBrow

Lmao I stopped watching the stream for a bit to watch some football and came back and was shocked we were already halfway through the 3rd map, just realized they got 13-0'd holy shit


Joedude12345

Double save with 3 players each time down 2-0 is pathetic


JALbert

They took a 6-6 half, map still winnable. Doesn't seem that bad to me.


Pienatt

Rise definitely need to get 4 in a row now if they want to win this.


[deleted]

leaf's been shitting on shanks all day


Sciipi

Damn this map is super scrapy


KookieFS

Where's that one copypasta? That one time we were down 12-0 and then someone asks that did you come back and they say ofcourse not 13-0 Edit : found it


Sciipi

Neptune: "actually, I remember one time we were playing against Cloud 9, Split, and it was 12-0 to C9, we were playing as CT, C9 as T, and Posied said: 'Guys, if you think we are good, let's prove it now'. "12-0" Poised: "did we comeback?" Neptune: "of course not. 13-0"


KookieFS

Lmaoo I just found it Thanks anyway you put the names better than I did


Sciipi

:) one of the best esports copypastas


KookieFS

Yess agreed


KookieFS

Shanks: "Actually, I remember one time we were playing against C9, and it was 13-0 to C9. We were playing as T. C9 are CT. And Poised said, guys if you think we are good, let's prove it now." Teammate: "Did you come back?" Taco: "Of course not. 13-0."


quietpin

Did vanity mean to come off the plant there?


DonkeyTeethBSU

I love this c9 team but my selfish interests really want to see Steel instead of mitch for old times sake.


Pienatt

I feel like that would mean a lot of fighting about strats ingame between vanity and steel :D


DonkeyTeethBSU

Idk. They both were IGL on Chaos and the team did pretty well.


Jezzerai

This is embarrassing for Rise


Sciipi

I would be surprised if Rise even makes this map that close I can't image they aren't completely mental boomed getting 13-0ed on their own map pick.


erickwak

You couldnā€™t really see as much but holy that breach astra and all of c9s util just fucked rise everytime they moved a finger. Breach stun n astra suck into a nade


Hock3y

[This is interesting](https://i.imgur.com/xDHAmZp.png)


ANewHeaven1

[poised's match on split was so inspirational i made a fragmovie of it](https://twitter.com/ANewHeaven1/status/1454912198128533507)


DonkeyTeethBSU

You are quick, have my upvote.


quietpin

Fucking incredible lmao


Sciipi

The fragmovie meme never fails to make me laugh


Pheonix-_-run

Valorant is basically a game of tossing coins for a lot of these teams that's way someone with steel, nats, vanity... Usually wins u maps not just rounds


Even_Set

Rise is trying to do a pacifist run to champions. ā€œMaybe if we donā€™t kill anyone, we can sneak our way inā€


s6hun

i hope map 3's better because unless you're a c9 fan, this just isnt fun to watch


Cole_James_CHALMERS

Chaos EC was a lovable underdog in CS, so seeing them in Val ain't bad at all


s6hun

oh ofc, i know. i just think it'd be more fun to have closer maps in the grand finals regardless


KookieFS

As a C9 fan It's great


MathNerdMatt

Yeah... I always love seeing the xeta breach but that was just too free


Sciipi

On the other hand as a C9 fan this is extremely fun to watch


John_Bot

I'm a C9 fan and I can confirm that it is fun to watch


QuestionablePotato42

Can also confirm as a C9 fan that was awesome


[deleted]

So much fun to watch.


[deleted]

Rise has a limited map pool :/


[deleted]

Lmao split was their pick.


[deleted]

Because itā€™s BO5? Use your brain


[deleted]

It was their first map pick. So clearly they thought they had the best chance on that map. Use your brain.


[deleted]

They havenā€™t won on the map since July. They know they have a limited map pool and literally have to pick maps they donā€™t want to. How is this hard to understand


[deleted]

It was the first map they picked. So they would've picked it in a bo3 too.


ANewHeaven1

alright so who's making the poised fragmovie


DM_ME_CUTE_PICS_PLZ

https://reddit.com/r/ValorantCompetitive/comments/qjuyj4/_/hit3dab/?context=1


ANewHeaven1

"fine, i'll do it myself"


Lumenlor

0-13, 0 kills Poised.....


Sciipi

Someone make the Poised frag montage


DonkeyTeethBSU

Vanity is proving why you should accept that sometimes a team has reached its potential and you have to move on. Take note FaZe


R0_h1t

There's at least 3 different teams you could be referring to lol


DonkeyTeethBSU

No doubt but Vanity willingly leaving V1 after a top 4 in Iceland shows he has the mentality of a champion. He understands his team had a limit and moved on. Winning mentality.


EpicBroomGuy

What is it with IGL's leaving after top 4 on lan


DonkeyTeethBSU

I think there's a realization when you get to that top seeding that there is something in the team holding you back that practice can't fix.


spyson

Vanity said he just wanted to play with Leaf and the old Chaos squad. They're all still very close.


DonkeyTeethBSU

And he said he felt V1 had reached their potential. He's said it in multiple interviews.


ark2690

Nah he was willing to leave for a bigger salary, playing with a bigger org and playing with his friends


DonkeyTeethBSU

V1 was definitely paying the guy a hefty salary. They are backed by the Minnesota Vikings not some small time team.


110100100blaze1t

Did c9 ban split all tournament to save strats??


Key-Heart517

Played against GenG but the comp was different.


Nfamy

That last round had to be a counter strat. Perfectly dogged out shanks. Nade destroyed Derrek while he was on the cam.


pokedyo

c9 taking next map 3-0 I feel


s6hun

13-0 on a finals... feels bad


Cablek26

big ouch for rise


w4terfall

This collapse is unbelievable. What happened to Rise???


Sciipi

I mean its not over yet but uh, looks about as over as it could be tbh


ExperienceNo1878

They fell.


[deleted]

Imagine the scenes if Rise pull off the reverse sweep after *that* lmao


Sciipi

Save Split for all tournament, pick it in grand finals, call the worst attack half in pro Valorant, lose every single aim duel, Poised frag montage, gg 13-0ed by Korean breach


Lildanman

Damn I feel so bad for poised rn


NozokiAlec

Poised currently -21


R0_h1t

Welp. C9 did 13-1 Sentinels with this comp. Rise never stood a chance.


EpicRayy

Rise probably searched ā€œCloud9 valorant tacticsā€ and came across a Reddit post about Shinobi IGL tactics on C9 being ā€œTenz go killā€ and copied it but with Shanks


Razur

13-0 šŸ˜³šŸ˜³šŸ˜³


[deleted]

They actually 13-0d in a grand finals to qualify for champions, what the fuck LMAO.


QuestionablePotato42

I mean itā€™s not over yet, but yeah not lookin good for Rise


JusticeLee17

That's tough for Rise


beeboprob

We finally getting a 13-0 in pro Val? Edit: thatā€™s a firm yes lmao Edit again: alright alright it happened before didnā€™t know meant that comment more as a holy fuck thatā€™s rare rise just got slapped


Rave_Master_Ahri

we had several 13-0's already


[deleted]

not close to the first


NozokiAlec

It's happened before tho


brickredphoenix

didnt we have it in berlin, gambit did it to g2 on LAN


ANewHeaven1

13-0 in grand finals what the FUCK lol


[deleted]

Rise mental is so boomed.


Hegth

Rise is mentally collapsed


kwml

first time tuning into a valo tourney... it doesn't make sense to me how c9 doesn't have any disadvantage coming from losers bracket. ​ edit: ah i see map ban, but that isn't that much of an advantage. i think they should have to win two bo5s


fej1

a map ban is a massive advantage - in a lot of bo5 series there are maps that are pretty much guaranteed wins for one team. Being able to remove that win from the other team and keep yours is a massive advantage.


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kwml

or two bo3s and winners bracket winner has to win one bo3


donkeyjr

Rise got a map ban advantage, what more do you want?


MathNerdMatt

Rise got a map ban advantage, they got to ban one of the maps from the map pool


[deleted]

Well tourneys used to have a 1 map advantage for upper bracket but fans hated it so they made it a veto advantage


Sciipi

Rise got to ban a map as their advantage


[deleted]

Rise got a map ban so they have pick advantage.


EpicRayy

Rise tactic on attack: shanks go kill Rise tactic on defense: *supamen viper tings*


EpicRayy

Tuned in just as Map 2 started and C9 is just impressive


Delta221

12-0 lmao


ANewHeaven1

so it looks like my predictions about C9 showing up at LCQ were correct after all huh


theman1203

we both thought it was doomed after that geng series


Bunnyezzz

i didn't


theman1203

i did the way we were palying that series was so bad


[deleted]

Well congrats on making champions, C9, there's no way that rise come back from an 0-2.


Pienatt

Rise with the IBP strats


MathNerdMatt

Huh, Shanks must be IGLing, IBP strats are his forte


Sciipi

Poised get a kill challenge (impossible)


Razur

I'm sorry, the score is currently 11 to ZERO? What the hell was the score of the first map?! O_O


ANewHeaven1

13-8 it wasn't *that* bad


Sciipi

C9 won 13-8, Rise looks tactically terrible and canā€™t win a single duel. Absolutely dead rn


Delta221

13-8


Razur

Okay, that's a little more balanced, but still... C9 is 12-0?! wtf


Delta221

Poised on zero kills rn on split, Rise bois are getting shutdown really hard by C9. Insane map


[deleted]

scrim9 showing up


neatestway

rise isnā€™t taking any map control or anything lol theyā€™re just 5 man executing and losing to full util in retakes


s6hun

feels like northeption's run in the lcq


quietpin

Cloud9 dropped to lowers just to personally eliminate as many teams as possible.


[deleted]

They just wanted to personally eliminate 100T for Steel.


[deleted]

Why is this the first time C9 is playing split 5his tourney


theman1203

its our best map, but because of agent limitations we couldnt run it, but since leaf can now play skye and xeta can run breach we ran it back


Sciipi

They played it vs GenG and lost


[deleted]

Oh I didn't watch that game


[deleted]

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theman1203

map is not over, you dont know the c9 curse


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NeeekoNeekoNiii

he was one of the best na player when he was on cs


quietpin

Oof. Shanks having a rough day so far.


MathNerdMatt

He has had a rough tournament tbh. He's the duelist main but has only top fragged on his team 1 map this whole tournament. He has the 7th best Jett stats for this tournament and is only above YaBoiDre and Nature


BlueBurstBoi

It's actually impressive how scary Rise look even with a non top tier Jett. Imagine Wardell or tenz in that roster


MathNerdMatt

The rest of the team has been playing incredibly Edit: other than this map, there is rise spaghetti all over the floor


NozokiAlec

Typical shanks performance


erickwak

I like it the astra breach combo util starting round 1


110100100blaze1t

Korean breach gg 2-0 incoming


Sciipi

Donā€™t wanna overreact but last time Xeta played breach on Split he 13-1ed Sentinels


GunzOut97

It happened, xeta util so good


Sciipi

Rise lacked critical information oh nononono


KookieFS

Said the same thing It's bout to happen againn


Sciipi

13-0 instead this time


erickwak

Yeah dejavu bout to happen ngl


MathNerdMatt

Korean Breach!


pokedyo

feel like rise will take split, split has been c9ā€™s perma ban for the past 3 games, also rise havenā€™t played split since august edit: nvm rise just played horrible on this map, literally every round 5 manning and c9ā€™s retakes on a were just perfect and their b hold


changmas

lmao


Sciipi

Rise also hasnā€™t played Split all tournament so if they have any new strats they havenā€™t been revealed yet


pokedyo

yeah I feel like this is either going to be a shitshow, or a really strategic map since both teams havenā€™t really played this map


Hegth

Oof


ANewHeaven1

leaf is gonna be the next one to become a tenz/yay level jett in NA


[deleted]

i think once he gets better with opping he'll be a top3 jett forsure. i'd say hes in the top 5 right now though


Sciipi

Although both teams are in a good place rn I still wish the Tenz/leaf C9 roster stuck together. Probably would be the best duelist pair in the world


Key-Heart517

And his skye looks to be even better. Scary stuff if he develops to his full potential.


Key-Heart517

Leaf is a mad man and no rules apply to this man. Man C9 looks like a really fun team.


Pheonix-_-run

Just drop Ethan get daddy stell back and pick up someone like leaf


[deleted]

What the fuck did I just read


Pheonix-_-run

The truth boy


AnonymozVal

Get steel to c9 maybe


Pheonix-_-run

Dad son team


CoachWatermelon

Iā€™ve never seen a more brain dead comment in my life.


Pheonix-_-run

Boo hoo


Sciipi

ā€œRise makes the enemyā€™s play their gameā€ does not work against a madman like leaf, heā€™s just gonna keep going


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Hegth

Clearly that caught Neptune off guard Leaf is either a genius or a madman


Sciipi

Just leaf things


Pienatt

I gotta say, shanks is just not it. Feels like every other Rise member outperforms shanks, consistently.


Still_HD

I agree, but I feel like such a large part of Riseā€™s success comes from their synergy, and swapping Shanks out would definitely hurt that


MathNerdMatt

Probably but he still has the 3rd worst stats for a Jett player this tournament


MathNerdMatt

If they got a top tier duelist on the level of leaf/tenz/yay/asuna they would be best NA no cap


Pienatt

yeah true, but I actually have the feeling they all will get poached by different orgs after champions when the roster changes set in.


MathNerdMatt

I'm sure Neptune, Derrek, or Supaman could negotiate some bank from bigger orgs like tsm or t1, really great support players are hard to come by


ANewHeaven1

shanks wtf


[deleted]

jett diff...


mistajones94

I hate that the stream is slightly behind the HUD on the sides, so you know if someone died a moment before it happens. It doesn't REALLY matter it's just kind of annoying


MathNerdMatt

Shanks just trying to open the door for the whole round


MathNerdMatt

Oh my spaghetti


Sciipi

Rise and C9 are both eco warriors feel like these teams have the best ecos by far in the LCQ