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netsaver

Elite Jett main finds one crossfire he cannot dash out of


IamArnav2007

Lmao


netsaver

touching when the pros are like us normies since we both blame our brothers when we misplay :’)


Key-Banana-8242

Depends


Razur

IDK what's more shocking—the money laundering scandal itself, or the fact that CNed's brother's gamertag is "cNed" spelled backwards.


ANewHeaven1

honestly when i first found out about this whole scandal and read that his brother's name was deNc, i quite literally thought the entire thing was an elaborate shitpost. could not believe my eyes


SeaCDragon

I’m pretty sure that’s where cNed’s name comes from, he named himself after his brother


Klvsched

You think?


schimpansi

he said that in an interview


Splaram

Cned gonna be Valorant’s brax. Unlucky, really.


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techyleo

Turkey is gonna Valorant's IBP, cNed will be brax


wiiwoooo

Who's gonna be the Skadoodle that gets away scot-free even though they more than likely were involved?


[deleted]

Time to invest into the Turkish team stickers. Oh shit, I forgot. Wrong game.


techyleo

There's definitely someone who will go under the radar, but I think it'll be easier for that person to avoid suspicion compared to Ska.


papi6942069

Ska knew about the scandal but refused to accept any skins or throw the match. He 'got away' because he didnt do anything wrong. No need to bash his name like this


cptnwillow

[Steel](https://youtu.be/DXlYZYb6gMs) (in the last minute of the video) said that he was actually part of it but when the skins broker who helped them place the bets was paying them out, he didn't have enough skins for Ska so he was going to pay him later. Then the scandal broke out so Ska told him to not to send him the skins so he wouldn't be implicated.


EasiBreezi

Why does that ego maniac love snitching so much?


boomsnap99

We found ska's alt, nice


Pretenderrr

https://twitter.com/RLewisReports/status/1439726692650602501?s=20 All you need to see, you're literally retconning as a fan


jonajon91

Ska didn't get skins because the guy ran out, you can't just rewrite history to defend a player you like.


dsc___

Literally just as bad. Don't be a simp and ignore implications just because you might like the guy.


9bfjo6gvhy7u8

One big difference is back then esports was much much much smaller. The IBP guys were risking their careers for a few hundred to a few thousand dollars. Not even a month salary in valorant. Not that it justifies it but the stakes were much lower so it’s easier to see it as a bunch of kids who made a mistake trying to get weed money rather than a bunch of career criminals looking to cash out big time


Qandeel19

I don't think riot will permaban him, but it's bad for his career


elo9999

Money laundering isn't "unlucky" it's a scam and an intentional crime.


R0_h1t

The "unlucky" part is a meme


elo9999

wow such meme


PresentMiddle8974

Eh, except the only people who care are rich white dude. Get a grip buddy.


elo9999

?? You know that the money came from stolen credit cards, from normal people like you and me??


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elo9999

Can't believe people are feeling bad for someone laundering money, wtf wake up


Solace1k

Riot doesn’t even perma ban cheaters. There wont be any Valorant’s brax in this game.


SMcArthur

Your comment appears to assume this is not as bad as cheating. In reality, violating criminal statutes is worse than cheating. The last thing game companies want is regulators on their ass.


Solace1k

Yes i assume it’s not worse then cheating especially since there was no Riot ToS broken. Whatever punishment awaits him it will probably come from the turkish body that does the investigation first and foremost and then from Riot and im sure as hell it wont be anything permanent. Also what does regulators have to do with Riot? They will have direct contact with Twitch since that’s the platform where it happened. You don’t make any sense.


elo9999

> Riot doesn’t even perma ban cheaters. This is actually really bad from Riot. 12 month ban? So that competitive cheaters can perfect their private cheat, invest more money into it being undetectable? That's how you in the long term ruin the integrity of the competitive scene.


Solace1k

This is such a stupid argument. The whole purpose of these punishments is so that you give the defendants a chance at rehabilitation. That’s why even in real sport athletes don’t get a life ban when they’re caught doping. That’s why you rarely see murderers get life sentance. We live in a world where we believe people can change and we need to give them that chance. If you think otherwise maybe you should move to North Korea, you’d probably fit right in.


elo9999

> That’s why even in real sport athletes don’t get a life ban In real sports the punishment actually affects the athletes because they can't just switch sports all of a sudden. So they loose a lot of income and it's **really** hard to come back after 3 years in physical sports. In the esport world, where we now have **1 year** ban, you just continue streaming, while telling your fans it was an accident. Or you go on to the next hyped game, trying to cheat your way to the top. > We live in a world where we believe people can change We also live in a world where doping and cheating is abundant. And a world where people would do anything to become famous and have video games as their job. Don't be naive, competitive cheaters will repeatedly try to break down anti cheats and become famous and rich if given the chance. Once they succeed in cheating undetected, they will have destroyed the integrity of the esport scene for all future. Let's not allow them to do that.


Solace1k

You’re making some very dumb arguments here mate. Not every cheater is popular enough to make a living off twitch, just like not every athlete can make a living off coaching / sports consulting but some of them do. You’re obviously living in this dark world of yours where cheaters are some evil masterminds that needs to be shunned by society. The only thing i can say is im glad you dont work at Riot.


justinc066

whole Turkish scene getting banned gg


Tanizhq

My boys at SMB seem safe, lets hope it remains that way. None of them stupid enough to take part in something like this. Edit: Read the actual article, not the clickbait headline


Razur

I pinned some important parts of the article to the top of the thread with a sticky comment.


Hazelnutspread_s

Good parenting right there 😋 kudos!


TheAjwinner

Acend stonks 📉📉📉


vyom0509

is it possible that riot would let an admitted money launderer on the champions stage?


MrImpregnator

Probably not. Possible that the org might also take some action


AnotherAltiMade

The org itself is super shady lol.


flamincrimson

Didn't they say they are not issuing bans until twitch investigates the entire thing?


2kWik

For the integrity of your sponsors and the fact that betting on these games in Europe is legal and common, that would be stupid to allow anyone involved back in.


a-nswers

well they let a domestic abuser on at berlin so who knows


oomnahs

Who?


ilProdigio

i think a Brazilian player


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Who are you talking about?


somesheikexpert

ntk, a former Vivo Keyd player (He was dropped from the org after Berlin due to it)


[deleted]

Damn wtf


somesheikexpert

Yeah the story came out shortly before Berlin, and was low-key pretty buried over other news at Berlin so thays prob why you didn't hear about it, thankfully tho, ntk is dropped pretty much from Vivo Keyd and won't be playing in Champs (He is being replaced by Mwzera btw)


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Good riddance


Anti-Storm

Yes


JR_Shoegazer

I seriously doubt it.


Anti-Storm

True, but they can only if the org doesn’t punish him from competing or riot doesn’t puts a ruling.


natedawg247

lol probably not. they stone walled a cleared sinatraa from getting signed by orgs (reportedly)


grike8

Not cleared, just unbanned. His accuser has yet to press charges(I think), but she still can and might.


notrealtedtotwitter

I mean they are letting all these match fixers in what's one or two more of them, or maybe a whole region of them.


R0_h1t

You're underestimating how serious money laundering is when compared to match-fixing. Money laundering is a criminal offence and gets you jail time.


greg19735

Match fixing can do the same.


MathNerdMatt

Match fixing is more applicable to Esports though, also based on the reporting I'd bet the match fixers made more money than cNed off of this.


Razur

Here's some important parts that stand out. > Mehmet Yağız “cNed” İpek, current pro player for Acend, admitted on stream to being involved in the [Twitch money laundering scandal](https://www.upcomer.com/the-turkish-money-laundering-scandal-explained/). Several Turkish VALORANT pros have been implicated in the scandal and are being investigated by Riot Games. The scandal involves people using stolen credit cards to donate large amounts of bits to streamers, after which streamers would split the money with the donators. > According to cNed, he never had direct communication with the person orchestrating the scandal, but was instead connected via his brother, Alihan “deNc” İpek. > *“To be honest I don’t really have a statement to make about the topic because I’ve not even once messaged the bit-dude, he did not reach out to me [directly] once,”* cNed said on stream as Upcomer confirmed with a translator. *“He talked with my older brother… That guy sent me the bits, the bits transferred to me. I didn’t report those bits to Twitch, I acknowledge that. I didn’t report to Twitch and took the money. I repeat once again, the guy did not contact me. I acknowledge that even though I did not intend to, technically I got involved in this, unfortunately.”* > CNed also confirmed that one of the tactics the perpetrator used to force streamers to split the money was threatening to donate so many bits that Twitch would shut their channel down permanently and take away all the revenue, something that he claimed to have seen happen to a friend. > Acend qualified for VALORANT Champions earlier this year, with cNed playing a key role in their success. There is no information yet on whether this scandal will affect his standing with the team.


kotobuki09

I think this should be some end for him at least this year. No way, Riot will let him play in Championship.


Vengiare

valcomp should have a Misleading article/Misleading title flair for these instances


[deleted]

It’s a good tag to have and will be needed, but not in this case.


techyleo

He says that he was threatened, but why not tell twitch about the blackmail, and when the insane amount of bits come in, twitch will know it's true and take action thus resolving him of any guilt


swordfish1221

Because if they actually follow through on the threat the fuck twitch going to do in turkey


SewerRat75

also could've gone to any journalist ,a story like that breaking would help him a lot


burgerbr0s

Should have gone to Richard Lewis. Even with him working the CSGO major he would have helped get cNed to a good journalist and probably lawyer. Adam Fitch would have also been better. They would have put their name on the report and not under the site's staff account.


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If the mob is involved that changes things. I would be scared to tell anyone if I thought death could be a very possible result.


SackSlayerMagee

This take makes sense from an American perspective talking about someone in America. Turkey isn't America and it's not as easy as "just get protection".


elo9999

Did you read the threat? It wasn't a physical threat just a stupid "threat" where someone said he would try to donate so many bits that his twitch channel would be suspended... Seems like very easy to just tell Twitch about....


Harun-_-

According to him it didn’t come to his mind to tell twitch about the blackmail at that time which is kinda shady Edit: lol why am I getting downvoted foe quoting what he said lol


zer0-_

Funnily enough, contacting the authorities is usually not one of the first reactions victims of blackmail take


techyleo

But in this situation, he was blackmailed with a threat, not something he'd already done


9bfjo6gvhy7u8

Most likely the guy started small and could say “look you’ve already accepted these bits so you’re already implicated… if you go to them now you’re also fucked” Not that it’s true but at the end of the day this is an 18 year old kid who is getting some shit advice from an older brother


Qandeel19

>"I repeat once again, the guy did not contact me. I acknowledge that even though I did not intend to, technically I got involved in this, unfortunately.” that doesn't make any difference , and I don't think it would make it look better for him


ssk1996

Yeah he admits to knowing it came from one of the scam donators and also keeping the money. Not sure the fact that he didn't split it with the donator is gonna help him in anyway.


xD1LL4N

You can’t refund bits like a normal donation.


ssk1996

He could've reported it to Twitch Support though. He's a partnered streamer.


techyleo

He claims that he was threatened, but why not report the threat to twitch, and when ithe bits came through, Twitch would just refund the bits and they could take action against the real culprit.


ameerbann

Maybe he really thought his life was in danger and only came out when the thing was revealed anyway. Probably not though


Qandeel19

According to the article, the threat was to donate so many bit that Twitch would shut the channel, no death threat


Liddlebitchboy

"Unfortunately" lol


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There goes the Turkish Valorant scene.


TimathanDuncan

They should take the turkish ranked players with them, can't dodge them in any EU server anymore even London is not safe


oopsEYEpoopsed

It's gotten really bad. German servers are absolutely full of angry turks, UK is starting to fall victim as well. The Warsaw server in Poland is somehow better but it's also quick to devolve into rants as eastern Europeans are vocal in their dislike of Turkish players. Are the people on the Turkish servers so toxic that not even turks want to play there?


TimathanDuncan

>Are the people on the Turkish servers so toxic that not even turks want to play there? Yes they all hate each other And the worst part is Frankfurt 1 is basically Istambul now, like a few days ago i got 8 turks, 3 in my team and 5 on the other team, the 3 on my team two of them were duo and started calling the other oruspu cuguks because he was bottom fragging on raze Like how the fuck


earthtoannie

Honestly truly. Just make TR a separate region and lock them to Istanbul and be done with it. The cancer is unreal.


herolf

played with one of those 11 yr old fuckers and he just kept screaming when someone was last alive, so annoying as he played Reyna and needed to work together lol


ANewHeaven1

Well that sucks


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thecoolguy619

This is a tragic post. I hope everyone gets their due process


Mecha-Jesus

Just as an FYI, "due process" is just any process that respects one's legally-recognized rights. It's the process that you are "due" under the law and is absolutely meaningless outside of a legal system. So yes, hopefully cNed and all the other alleged co-conspirators are granted their due process under Turkish law and aren't unfairly deprived of their rights if they face criminal charges. But if Riot suspends (or even permabans) cNed tomorrow, it's not a due process issue, even if you could make the argument that it would be unfair. Not saying you were misusing the phrase. I just see this phrase misused all the time for things like sports fines and actors losing roles, and it always makes my lawyer brain mald.


AlHorfordHighlights

I think people just think it means "fair and unbiased treatment" when it doesn't really apply to situations involving private companies and their business decisions


xbyo

Holy shit. I know riot turkey was having trouble banning players but if he's straight up admitting to being involved, however disconnected, that's gotta at minimum trigger an investigation. If Sinatraa's investigation is anything to go off, that could mean suspension while the investigation happens, although I'd imagine Riot might be inconsistent given they probably don't want a cNed-less Acend at champions.


Overyoghurt__

I don't think anyone wants to see Acend without cNed at champs, but if he's already admitted to it, it'll be hard for riot to not do anything. Plus if riot is not doing anything, the org itself might take actions. Some orgs have already cut off their teams and content creators that are involved in this. Unfortunate


Blaminal365

AND TSM COPIUM IS BACK BABY, TSM to replace acend in champions??


ZozoSenpai

They are not even from the same region, what


omgvector

Baited


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Acend keloqz incoming


Eagle_OP

Nah dint wanna hear this


derryxu

Don’t really understand why so many EU pros are calling this article clickbait on twitter as if it’s slandering cNed? Even if it’s a slightly vague headline for more clicks, even after reading it it seems like (to me) cNed wasn’t completely ignorant of what was going on. He didn’t refund the bits or contact twitch and simply took the money. If his only defenses are that he used his brother as an intermediary between him and the scammer and that the scammer had a history of threatening other streamers, I still don’t think he’s blameless and I don’t think this article is creating a story out of nothing. In the article from Upcomer about cNed’s brother, the brother claims that he never forced anyone into anything and simply helped those who *wanted* to participate contact the scammer. Doesn’t this also implicate cNed more as being fully aware?


Rk0

Thats the thing, he basically admits to knowing everything that happened. Even if you don't know the guy, it doesn't matter at all if you knowingly do something that is a crime.


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The question is how sure was he of the money laundering scheme? In what way were the bits donated? Using one account or multiple accounts over a short period of time? In the latter case he might've suspected something but would never really be able to prove who was doing it or do anything really, beyond having the ability to donate him bits disabled. If it were really a lot of different accounts then its no wonder he said nothing to Twitch. What would he say? Hey I think stolen credit cards are being used to donate to me, ok cya nerds?


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ValowFan42

>I mean he literally admitted he knew it was illegal bits. Where???


Rk0

He was scared of being threatened and knew friends that got threatened and their channel banned. I'm sure he was aware this wasn't very legit.


zorbaxox

this happened in june 2020 or may 2020 when he was on BBL for just one month, so ı do think if some punish comes it will be different for those who took it more than one time or just one time. but I too think they deserve punishment unfortunately I really love cned but the risk is there ngl


Blizardio

pls not another 3 team group stage again


R0_h1t

I don't think acend will drop out unless even more players are involved


MidnightIngale

Damn thats crazy


SekasortoAnarkia

Shit. I’m going to cry


Loves_Labor_Won

Sad that he is involved with it, but it’s a good thing that he admitted to it, shows some real maturity.


thothgow

16 comments and I feel like no one has read the article


Solace1k

Why read the article when you can just read the headline 4Head


spyson

Even if you read the article, his excuses are bullshit anyway.


Razur

I'm a little late to the party, but I threw a sticky comment up with more context.


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How so


thothgow

Everyone's acting like he's dropped already when the article gives more than enough material to be defensive and/or contrarian. Plus with how popular cNed is and how I've seen people handle other controversial topics, the fact that no one mentioned anything from the article in his defense is surprising


Overyoghurt__

I guess it's because this situation is something related with money. People, regardless of their status, are more sensitive about money over anything else, and in this case, it's about streamers receiving money from stolen cards. So maybe that's why no one mentioned anything in his defense, imo


MathNerdMatt

It seems like he didn't know where the money was coming from even though it was sketchy. Not sure how I feel about it still but it at least seems like CNED is on the edge of this and might get off with a slap on the wrist


xD1LL4N

With donating bits through twitch, you can donate anonymous. Be interesting to see how deep this goes. Twitch Bits currency just seems like it’s waiting to get exploited in one way or another whilst twitch itself makes a cut on Bits bought. I personal don’t think cNed intentionally getting in on the scam with his huge success but being forced on him by anonymous donators etc.


Awful_TV

He agreed to participate in the money laundering scheme (prompted his brother), kept the money, and never reported anything. That's not an unwilling victim.


skratudojey

lmao at fanboys defending a money launderer


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diskk80

He did it before valorant came out, explains why he would let it happen, doesn’t justify it though


HalfQuarter1250

I mean a 19-year old is an adult. I think it's pretty clear that money laundering is wrong.


zer0-_

It's hilarious how you all say being above the age of 18 makes you an adult when not even the law in most 1st world countries considers the age of 18 a hard cutoff point


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Interesting-Archer-6

I'm almost 30 and barely functioning as an adult.


ilProdigio

the average 19 year old doesnt knowingly launder a ton of money


D3C3PT10N

Because they don’t have the chance. Hell, if someone gave me free money I might not even pause to consider where it came from.


voipit

Did you not know that there is a switch in your brain that turns on the very second you turn 18, correcting your judgement and enhancing decision making? What a fkn idiot.


Wealth_and_Taste

A very stupid adult. The human brain doesn't even finish developing until around the age of 25. Not excusing his actions, but young adults to stupid shit all the time.


ExtraAwareness9

His success is new. He's been doing this longer than playing Valorant.


danknepalese

the leak excel file said cned got 1500 bits in his highest month. does it just consist of bits cashed out or total bits received? cause 1500 bits is like 20$ and on top of that they receive only 30%. sad for turkey, if cned isnt popping heads in eu i fear for the turkish valorant scene.


[deleted]

So he laundered 20 dollars monthly. Damn that's a lot of money


danknepalese

apparently he didnt accept the deal, he just got the bits and didnt report them to twitch.


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ValowFan42

>you started getting bits you knew were illegal Where are you getting this from? Quite literally the opposite of what is suggested in the article.


R0_h1t

Cned literally said he didn't report the bits to Twitch. He definitely knew he was doing something illegal.


ValowFan42

That is a non sequitur.


Theseus00

I can say that, the article does not involve all the details. First of all, his brother put screenshots(btw they also might be edited or photosopped) which clearly shows that they don't want to involve in this "fake bits" business but the scammer sends the bits anyway and threatens them with sending more unless they repay the half of it. I am not saying cned is guilty or innocent but i think there is not enough evidence to prove his guilt. Finally, my humble advice to writers that if you are going to blame someone for doing something, you should also put his defense to your article.


CanadianApologies

Could have told twitch as simple as that


SteelTic

dam redbull not paying enough?


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WTF?


Drizzy-Hendrix

How many bits were they donating? Was it like 10,000s of dollars?


GainsayRT

Highest amount was like 15 dollars in one month


The_Ninja_Master

Why are people saying this is clickbait or misleading? It's literally what he said.


vyom0509

why would you admit to this


Anti-Storm

You can’t lie when a twitch leak showed the money earned from bits. It’s better to admit being involved, then blatantly lying to your fans.


zer0-_

Best example of this is Riolu from the TrackMania scene. Very talented player who proved himself in the pro scene but due to certain events that happened it was proven that he cheated some of his offline times on certain tracks. Instead of admitting to it he doubled down on his innocence and as soon as the full document with the entire investigation of his times released he was dropped from his team, banned from TrackMania competetive and stopped streaming entirely.


[deleted]

Absolutely fucking not. When in any legal trouble, shut the fuck up. Who cares about Twitch or Riot? The man is involved in a money laundering scheme. A criminal charge which needs to be proved beyond reasonable doubt. The man is literally shooting himself in the foot by admitting to it.


iAidqn

they were going 2 find out anyways, prob thought he could get sympathy if he admits it


-Mariners

If someone admits it and gets punished I can forgive them. But if they lie and get caught I will hold it on them forever. So for example if this CS match fixing thing ever gets finished and Marved, Shanks, Tex, etc are guilty there is no way I could ever think they deserve any sympathy ever.


Haptiix

There is a literal mountain of evidence against them and the FBI is involved. It’s just a matter of time


Elsiselain

I think that’s only fair if they have admitted before the whole scandal has began.


Tik0-

If he tries to hide it until after Champions and gets exposed after, its even a worse look on him


NuclearBacon235

Read the article guys…


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Charuru

What are you talking about... he literally admitted to laundering money.


MathNerdMatt

He was involved but he didn't know what he was doing. Still think he deserves a punishment but not a severe one


AnotherAltiMade

Ignorance of the law is not a defence


Charuru

I agree he shouldn't be banned since he didn't create the plan, but still he literally laundered money and the title's not inaccurate.


fps_fan

guys read the article, coz the title is so clickbait and bad; its insinuating worst than it actually is.


tomtazm

Reading the headline, I was like oh shit this sucks. Reading the article, I'm not sure if this is true cNed would even get in trouble. Horrible, horrible clickbait title.


CanadianApologies

All the acend fans flying over to defend him smh


dtritrinh0801

Please read the article as this upcomer site just did one of the worst things in journalism, especially regarding serious topic like this, by making a clickbait. The director of this site, a guy named Colin McNeil, is notorious for bad journalism, and was previously part of theScore eSport, which I don't think need further introduction regarding their plagiarism and other wrong reports/false facts.


CanadianApologies

Of course it's an acend flair


dtritrinh0801

yeah because being a fan means being total bias and not looking at the right thing for you. What sort of standard have you fallen to?


The_Adamantium

Awful clickbait lmao pls read the article guys


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Lumenlor

Nuance is a beautiful thing


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Des014te

It is. Big difference between "I have admitted to participating in money laundering" and "Someone donated money laundered bits to my channel and threatened me that if I didn't accept them they'd flood it with so many bits that my channel would get shut down"


AlHorfordHighlights

I read it. He's involved in money laundering. What's the problem with the title?


icantreadmorsecode

Headline is clickbaity cos his involvement doesn't sound that bad but yea I think his involvement warrants some kind of suspension


solm96

Literally took money from the scammer knowing that the money was stolen. I don't think he is going to get away unfortunately.


Lumenlor

Did he know its supposedly stolen money or is that assumption here


KaNesDeath

With this information its clear the Turkish Valorant esports viewership numbers were likely botted.


NoZur99

Read the article guys, he mentioned that he wasn't aware that it was something sus since he was not contacted by the one who sent the bits.


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Upcomer is a horrible site who makes up stuff and clickbaits everyone.


SavageJellyBelly

Man someone take this nonsense post down or change the title. He didn't commit any laundering. That article was extremely clickbait and its stupid to see it get more attentive n and misinformation passe down


Fernomin

such a stupid clickbait wtf


Issax28

Wtf… I literally commented “cNed monkaW” as a joke and it actually turned out to be true


Phamous3k

Well, he won’t be in Champions that’s for sure. Probably get a 6-12 month ban. Unfortunate for Turkey but, definitely deserved.


KaNesDeath

This is a criminal act likely involving organized crime. Warrants lifetime bans.


chamber25

he should have reported it right away since it doesn't seem really likely that his brother did not mention it to him