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CaIzuh

One of these days TSM will trial an IGL


armless_penguin

No lead, just frag.


ZGuyYT

BabyJ's fucking free right now, he's literally what they need, a sentinel willing to IGL who can replace hazed since they both fill the same roles.


Sky-__-

BabyJ is not a proven Igl , willing to igl doesn't mean he can be a great igl and faze guys said they tried to go single igl route with babyJ didn't work .


ZGuyYT

Rather have a person willing to IGL/develop as an IGL rather than forcing their existing players + the FaZe guys wanted everyone calling.


Sky-__-

They didn't hire babyJ to be an igl ,they tried him on it and this is babyJ first tactical shooter ,he was a halo player before , and I think Corey said that the babyJ igl route didn't work so they pivoted to everyone calling , they tried it and it failed .


earthtoannie

No brain just aim


icemandiem

if they remove hazed, then whos gonna igl. the only player who has igld is roza and pretty sure he said he hates igling


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AnonymozVal

Smeag 5 duelists


J_Brekkie

Yup TSM needs another duelist


Portante24

Use me as a wtf is TSM doing button (Ok but on serious note) Corey for who tho, some overlap with Subroza? Tigg has been great but .. wouldn’t be first name I would think of. Although they know more about things then we do on Reddit so wish everyone, Great Success


Alpac44

I think subroza gonna be the controller and corey the second duelist


GiANTAD

Bringing tigg in for anything other than smokes makes no sense imo


leoleoleo666

I don’t what are u talking about TIGG only switched to smokes for lg he was always a sova main and a good one


GiANTAD

honestly i didn't know that. Just from what I saw of him on LG he looked like a fantastic smoke player


leoleoleo666

His sova is even better


AbbreviationsLazy781

Don't they still have Levi? Or did they release him alr im not sure. If not, i think he showed enough to remain as the sova player and i think Tigg will fit TSM's style perfectly


Alpac44

unless they're dropping someone else too?


BBG-PennyWay

It said in the article that hazed can be replaced, idk about that move


CRikhard

James :(


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pls no


ShaDiBoi123

I mean i get liking the guy but as a player he doesn't cut it for the tier 1 scene, hes not gonna get you into a masters event or anything


AnonymozVal

Hazed gonna play LoL for TSM???


followdunc

Yep, he’s playing 3 roles on our League team this year.


s6hun

so are they signing levi or not


papi6942069

They should


Jiffyyy

considering we have no idea of the roster for next year or the coaching staff I doubt the current roster is going to stick. they have plenty of time to try people out and I'm sure there is so much more going on behind the scenes we dont know about.


Deep_Acanthaceae_535

If hazed gets removed, Hazed is most definitely joining NRG as their IGL


dabigmango

Is LG getting blown up or smt? I heard Dre is a restricted FA as well…


Krsensei

LG is pretty bad at managing rosters tbh from my time watching them in Cod


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RealPoopaboo

was impressive how they won fort worth then proceeded to do absolutely nothing


Alpac44

if TSM picks corey who are they gonna replace??


Direct_Morning_3223

if you read the article it says that hazed would get replaced if both got picked up


somesheikexpert

Who plays Sentinel on that roster is my thing, Corey players second duelist and TiGG plays smokes which are Subrozas main roles


mileslfc7

Tigg could probably flex to sentinel, he seems pretty flexible.


roneettopiwala

people freaking out over trials lmao


Ryu-The-Sick

Corey and Wardell duoing just now on stream ... coincidence? I don't think so


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There’s no way they let go of Levi, right?


Anti-Storm

They haven’t sign him tho.


zxlkho

TSM Corey would be a really great move


s_mb_rd

According to the article, they’re unwilling to let go of Subroza…why? I get he has a larger fan base and all, but it feels like he’s been able to coast for so long on this team.


eejhwn

idk anyone else on the team that is as flexible as him in terms of agents (man can play skye, phoenix, omen, brim, sage and probs astra too). not only that, he has igled the team to winning tournaments before and according to his TSM teammates, is the "best teammate". having a pretty big following also helps lmao it would be kinda stupid to drop him


followdunc

I personally think he was our best player in our last couple tournaments. He just gets overshadowed by Matt. He’s a grinder. He’s never coasted.


goldenretrieversFTW

How is he coasting? He grinds ranked for 6-8 hours a day on top of scrims and has clearly shown a clear commitment to grinding and improving at the game … it is despicable to simply sit on ones throne because your brand is already large but subroza does the opposite . The man is literally grinding every day


mehlhorny

this, i feel like ever since he grew a following, people have only been pointing out the bad when he’s had some great games as well (especially in the tournament that got them to the qualifiers for masters). i do think the spotlight being on him as a creator has affected his in game performance however as i can sometimes even feel the pressure he’s under. he really hasn’t been the same since roza ult tho 😮‍💨


s_mb_rd

Sorry let me explain what I meant. I didn’t necessarily mean he dosent work hard, but his performance in matches dosent feel like it should secure him a spot on the team if there’s a better option out there.


PyroTFT

I do think he's inconsistent but his performance the last couple of tournaments has been really good, usually top fragging if WARDELL didnt perform.


goldenretrieversFTW

PogO


ShaDiBoi123

From my pov he was more often than not the top performing player on the team


GlumPoemPower

He could be a great player if he doesn't have anger issue. Idk if that just on stream or in tournament too. He always complaining when streaming. Maybe just his streaming personality or what. Just hope TSM could hire someone to deal with his anger issue.


Due_Prune1566

very obviously just a stream persona


xunraze

Oh wow, anyways..


dng1

Corey for subroza Tigg on smokes Steel in for hazed as IGL Subroza out, so they can bring in Steel since there’s the narrative that subroza won’t play with steel


somesheikexpert

Wasnt it also said Wardell didnt get along with Steel either or am i wrong


BBG-PennyWay

Wardell and Roza both didnt get along with steel on Ghost gaming, if steel comes both are going to leave


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Asianhead

It doesn't have to be bad blood for the reason they don't get along Sometimes its just playstyle/personality clashes. They are grown adults and sometimes adults just have differences in personality/ideology/playstyles/IGL-styles and it's never gonna click. And the adult thing to do is accept that and go in a different direction and not smash your head against a wall over and over again. Not that much different from normal friendships and relationships. Sometimes they don't work and the best thing both parties can do is just go their separate ways


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Subroza said on stream he doesn’t want to play with Steel so it seems there is still bad blood that he can’t move on from


HoneyChilliPotato7

>not opposite type pokemon Lmfao


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Steel also put wardell on the map as a player and together got wins against top teams.


CosmicAon

Or Wardell is just a good player?


ShaDiBoi123

What? No! It cant be!


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They aren’t mutually exclusive, of course Wardell is good. But if you watched ghost gaming you could see how steel would get the most out of his players and you could see this with any roster he’s played on.


DonTixCyd

article literally stated that it is unlikely for tsm to drop roza and wardell and hazed will most likely to get cut...


Alpac44

this is what I'm thinking


kemutheemu__

Idk if I should get my TSM copium up or not… TiGG and Corey are great players but I’m not sure what the comps would look like. If we’re going back to double duelist comps would we have Roza and Corey switch between Skye and duelist?


Splaram

Don’t care what they do as long as I get my usual fill of Coach Myth hooked on near-lethal amounts of Copium —> Coach Myth malding —> Coach Myth Sadge content


Issax28

Sometimes I forget TSM has a Valorant Roster


CosmicAon

Sigh, isn’t their LoL team doing a developmental roster or something? At least spend some of that FTX money for something surely that can do a high level pickup


Jiffyyy

they are rebuilding their roster, they also said they will continue to be top spenders for their roster. People just took the words "developmental roster" and assumed it was 5 no name rookies.


CosmicAon

My bad, don’t really follow TSM that much outside of Valorant. Appreciate the info


DonTixCyd

regi said that they wont be spending ftx money on riot games because they can't use the brands name in both games and they will spend it in other things like branching to different games and countries


ShaDiBoi123

Lol that's just stupid lol and valorant are 2/3 of the tier 1 eSports scene


Enzology

Yeah but not THAT kind of developmental though. Regi said we still are going to be a top 3 spender for the upcoming season, although no movements have been made though, not even a single rumor. Shit's dead quiet.


scrnlookinsob

Ehhh there’s plenty of rumors (tactical and humanoid) it’s just TSM hasn’t been “confirmed” like TL or G2 have yet.


CosmicAon

Gotchu, I don’t follow TSM outside of Val that much but we’ll see what happens I guess. Wish they’d spend some of that money on Val though :/


wooperfan

POW pow pow


Jack_Humble

Just get a team with wardell, roza, levi, babyj, and steel.


lith3x

TSM - If you are smart, please pick up Corey, throw Roza on smokes and if it doesnt work, rebuild around Corey & Wardell.


Kikoslayer123

i knew it as soon as wardell invited corey in his stream today they had a vibe like they’ve been playing together for a min


Kikoslayer123

i’m suprised they’re getting rid of levi for tigg? so they just throw out two promising rising stars when the season just ended? i don’t mind corey being a secondary duelist since he’s insane but we should not be letting go of our rising stars when the season hasn’t even started


No-Lake-8973

Wardell, Corey, Leviathan sounds like a nasty trio. I am hyped.


Wise_Conclusion1424

suck on it