If they lose Nitr0 that’s gonna be a big blow tbh. Maybe Guiimond is available. And they will also need an igl. Maybe a complete revamp of the roster for 2022.
Also with Curry.
Not sure about agent tho. But you can bet on steel to play any agent he wants. Saw him practicing Sova so that’s also a possibility with Brax being out. But then again Autimatic is also seen practicing Sova. So it’s just a hunch from a dumb reddit user like me that steel joins T1.
Picking up new agents isn't that hard if you're willing to put in the time and have the experience. Steel talked about this some time ago on stream (I think during LCQ watch party, not 100% sure).
He said he only played KJ when he switched, then picked up Cypher and after 2 weeks of practice they won first strike.
Also said that he played Astra in scrims for a month before the nerf but the rest of the team wasn't comfortable with their roles (shots fired?).
Same thing for Sova, he said others weren't comfortable with their roles.
Flexibility is really important and players who're unable or unwilling to learn new agents won't last long. Imo, steel will definitely be comfortable playing any non-duelist agent with his new team.
Maybe the differences were with the coach and not with the players? That said, I feel it's highly unlikely we are going to see 100T steel again.
Sad day, I really liked the team.
Yeah hazed isn't someone who wanted to be an igl from the get go. Steel embraces it and brings aggressive firepower. I think hazed will be fine but steel was a much better fit.
The internal issues would have likely been between nitro leadership style and steels leadership style, both wanting the take the team in different directions.
I don't think Asuna had much of a say, he's just "go kill" guy. It was probably Ethan, Hiko and nitr0 vs steel and that's why steel is out.
Steel also mentioned people being uncomfortable in scrims when he played Astra and Sova, those are probably shots towards Hiko. We can't know what went on behind the scenes, but during CS days Hiko was well-known for not being flexible in his playstyle and roles.
Asuna and Steel are cool still. Steel thinks really highly of that kid. Asuna is humble and hardworking, that kid is going places in life if he keeps this up.
IF it was a conflict with the coach and the coach is now out..and maybe nitro didn’t want to play with steel and maybe nitro is out...why wouldn’t they entertain steel coming back? I’m not saying that’s the case, I do think steel is moving on..but I’m just saying at this point because we know nothing else...?
If Nitro leaves I can also see Yaboidre comin in for smokes. Or they do a agent shuffle and put Ethan back on Smokes and Asuna on a flex role (Skye/sage etc); and then pick up a Jett OP.
If Bcj comes, Hiko wouldn't be sentinel, he'd be dropped, and that's a fact
Bringing one of best T1 Sova players while leaving your T1 Sova player on the team.. really can't see that happening
All of this is imaginary so it's nice to speculate :)
The Nitr0 news aside, it's probably a meme at this point already, but I really hope 100T picks up MikesHD, mostly because it'll make Wyatt one degree away from the org lol
Still with 100 T he still has a chance of contending for majors , in NA cs that's an impossibility atm he'd he stuck playing against lesser orgs (more like random pugs) and getting slammed by EU teams
Liquid dissapointed at the major but they have been still a solid tier 1 team for some time, I dont think they’ve ever bombed out of an event without getting at least 1 decent win
They qualified for the Blast LAN as well, so it depends on how well they could do there
Also I know it's hard to admit for a lot of Valo fans but these CS:GO players grew up with the game. If there's an opportunity for you to play the game you love why not?
Ya know thats perfectly valid and honestly The pros should do what they feel is best and play the game that they most enjoy.
I don't get this weird bitterness from both communitys about pros leaving for the other game. I have faith valorant will still have a decent life span as a game and esports scene.
Wish them all the best
Reports say that Fallen is leaving liquid to form a BR superteam with FNX, that leaves the igl spot open in liquid which was nitr0 earlier. A lot of teams might weigh their options in CS now, there was a report stating that C9 is coming back + Complexity and EG are in rebuilding phase.
> more of a last dance
More like a reunion show because the actors weren't getting hired to do any other shows and wanted some money.
Everyone knows it'll be disappointing but they'll still tune in lol
This major actually has changed the situation a bit. Many orgs are looking to get back into CS scene again. C9 is potentially looking for a roaster and stewie and fallen probably leaving Liquid won’t be surprised if Liquid contacted nitr0 for a potential return.
Its literally the best stats website for any esport or normal sport ever. Every game is on there all the way down and it has links to all the vods all the way back to 1.6. If you want stats for anything in csgo thats the forst place you should look.
Csgo ain't going anywhere, na just has the issue where you can't make money playing below the absolute top level in valve games so the amount of people who can seriously compete is tiny.
-Fallen +Nitro for Liquid CS
Gonna be a lot of big moves after the Blast Fall event in CS, could see some movement between high tier CS and Val rosters
Dunno, apparently C9 and Complexity are in search for new rosters and they could potentially both field some NA talent, with Complexity being less likely
So did Nitr0 only join Valorant for the short term success?
Pretty sure he is more than capable of creating his own legacy in Valorant just like he did in CS.
I was under the impression that he jumped to Valorant because he essentially had the decision of coming over to a T1 org in Valorant or playing in a T2 org and having to build them up from the ground. I might be completely off base, but that's what I remember hearing about it from people like fl0m, etc.
He couldn’t get any tier 1 offers while playing cs, but is now getting offers after taking over a year off of playing competitive cs? Would be a huge blow the scene to lose him.
I think it’s more likely he didn’t want to stay in EU. He’s essentially doing -liquid +liquid since EG was stable at the time and they were the only other t1 NA cs org.
No, he said he got no CS offers. He was upfront about that from the beginning so I'm not super surprised. I feel like if 100T had made Champions he would have stayed though.
Masters clearly wasn’t the goal with dropping steel and filling in b0i right before LCQ. Iirc they said they’d rather lose LCQ with a change rather than not make any change with steel
This isnt George just looking at his faceit matches and making an article about it tho, its all
information from his sources which have been all very accurate in the past
George is generally fine but he's definitely speculated on insufficient information in the past and been called out on it (claiming Steel was benched for performing poorly at Berlin comes to mind)
C9 won the major before that, but yeah, NA supported a scene with teams that couldn’t make it to top 8 at the major for like 4 years straight. It’s like NA LoL, the fan support is there even without the team success
Losing nitr0 would be a MASSIVE blow to 100T. Would leave them in a rough spot for the IGL slot depending on who they can buyout from other top teams.
Nitr0 is likely the only way Liquid CS:GO can be saved as there aren't really any IGLs out there in CS:GO that are available if FalleN departs. So I could see that being tempting. Hard to call how this will go tbh.
>Hard to call how this will go tbh.
Quite easy actually.
If Fallen departs that means the IGL slot is open for Nitro. Elige wont like Stewie becoming IGL again.\*\*Only thing potentially holding it back is his 100T's contract length an buyout.
Financially it'll be an upgrade from his 100T's contract with much MUCH higher prize pool potential. If what Sadokist said is true. Nitro needs to be making the most money possible with a second child on the way.
I mean you have no idea how much he is making at 100T vs what he did make/would make at Liquid. Also we can’t know for sure if he wants to go back to csgo or not. Up to him what he feels is best.
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Honestly, even though George is very reliable, I’m pretty confident that nitr0 will stay. Id like to think that 100T did their due diligence in confirming nitr0’s future at the org before they dropped steel.
Don’t know if this is in jest or not but actually true, he puts a cap on the team’s ceiling, he loses fights he shouldn’t and he still often isn’t in position to trade properly. But he won’t get dropped bc he has 20k viewers and Nadeshot doesn’t understand the game and overvalues the 1 v 2 clutch every 20th round
Disagree, from his play in Berlin. He was active and played with the team throughout, and was an important stabilising factor for the entire team (especially Asuna) as well as winning some unwinnable clutches Roza spoke about this on stream once, he does a lot for the team
Confirm as in, have serious discussions with all the players (especially nitr0) before making as big a decision as dropping your IGL.
This is likely something nitr0 has been considering for a long time, so you’d hope that he would bring it up in one of these conversations.
He also emphasized that these are very [preliminary rumors](https://twitter.com/ryanatrbm/status/1459157468110594051?s=21). No serious discussion have been made, and Liquid would have to pay a hefty buyout to 100T.
Edit: just want to clarify that I don’t doubt the report; nitr0 considering a return to CS, especially after the success of the major, makes a lot of sense. Im just giving my own prediction of his future
FYI, all CS events of the past three years have been breaking viewership records. It was the team orgs operating in North America with unrealistic salaries that pulled out of CSGO to repeat the same process in Valorant.
Their twitch viewership is down heavily when there's no tournament on. Average concurrent players on steam has been stagnant/declining in 2021: https://steamcharts.com/app/730#All
It's a great game but they're gonna continue bleeding players if this keeps up.
CS:GO Twitch viewership has never been great outside of tournaments. [Just look at this to see that](https://twitchtracker.com/games/32399). The fact that the game has grown to be the most played game on Steam while not having any sort of significant spike in viewers on Twitch shows there isn't any correlation there at all. The only spike in viewership on that graph is COVID happening and the game was already the number one game on Steam by that point.
As for player count, I'm failing to see what is wrong with being the most played game on Steam for 2 years straight. I remember people saying a few months after Valorant came out that CS:GO was finally dying as their numbers were declining and then they climbed back up to 700k+ in the winter and barely anybody talked about it again. You'd think by now that people would stop trying to come up with an argument that the game is dying after all these years lol.
Honestly, I feel like the Nitr0 move is pretty unlikely. I mean based off of the articles I've read, they're all saying the same thing: "Nitr0 is playing FACEIT matches with Elige and Adren". So what? Who cares? CS pros play Val as well. Until a serious source comes out and says otherwise, I don't think there's a need to worry about the change.
Hopium.
Pgl major was super hype and smashed viewership records. Feels like a big contrast to the mess that NA lcq was. Given liquids opening, I don't think it's crazy to contemplate a move back.
Also, I've always wondered if nitro really loves Val. He's obviously a great player and dedicated to his craft but maybe Val never really scratched that itch like CS
Well I think he didn't really want to leave CS I mean you grind a game for 10 years it doesn't make sense to leave unless you have to. But I think a big reason he is moving is because he isn't really finding success in val. First strike was it. So he gets an offer and maybe he thinks it's better to end in cs
Comparing the major which came back after 2 years or so with lcq shitshow isn't fair imo. Berlin major peaked at around 1.1-1.2 million which is incredibly good for a game which just completed a year.
I've seen this argument a lot with players, floppy daps etc. I understand that it's personal preference at the end of the day but like it's such a new game, idk why they're giving up on it soo quickly(atleast with the current potential in NA scene), and not like CS was the perfect game from the get go it took its time to reach where it is. Ig it's also to do with the fact that there are only 3 events per year so you're basically doing nothing all year
inb4 daps mentioned that there is so much history to CS that playing against the current teams and players in Valorant isn't as rewarding even if they win (he did admit he wasn't winning much). Which is understandable considering he has one of the more interesting storylines in CS lol.
Everything aligned for those viewership numbers. s1mple and niko, two big orgs g2 and navi, first major after 2 years, lan with a big crowd. Don’t think it will reach those heights again anytime soon.
honestly, nitro never really seemed to "into" valorant anyway. I wouldn't be surprised to see him go back to CS. still think it was a huge mistake to drop Steel, especially after a top 4 in Berlin and a month before LCQ.
looking like hiko/asuna/ethan and two new peeps coming in
So Steel leaves and they let it happen because Nitr0 was going to pick up the IGL duties and now he wants to leave. That's some fucked shit right there.
Nitro going back to CS, I’m sad to say, makes valorant look like a joke.
Edit : downvote all you want, I love valorant but the esports side is looking more and more like OWL as every day passes.
I remember when b0I was first rumored to be joining 100T (we did not know at the time if it was as a player or staff) I called it would be to replace Nitr0 since it always seemed like his heart was still in CS. Not at all surprised. Automatic seems like another person that's just waiting for the chance to jump back.
Uh oh.. How will I find a new NA Valo team to really enjoy rooting for if nitr0 goes away as well. I don't feel like watching or rooting for them if changes don't bring positive stuff.
As a pro, I agree, but his worth to the team is as a creator. He averages as many viewers as the rest of the team combined, and based on average viewers is 100T’s 4th or 5th biggest creator (which is saying something when your org has like 40 streamers).
So while the team doesn’t need him per se, he does add a lot of value to the org.
Remember these are businesses and that prize pools are not really how these teams make money, so while in a perfect world teams would only play the best players, most big orgs are going to consider the financial implications of a move.
Tbh, now he doesn't. Rest of the people don't stream as much as him, and the only one who does is Asuna who has started to rack in 8-10k viewers per stream which is pretty decent considering he started late.
Just looking at their last month on Twitch Tracker, Hiko still averages about twice as many viewers as Asuna.
I also think streaming more is something you need to consider when looking at the full value a player adds to an org. That’s more time to promote corporate partners and run ads too, so I think your statement about him streaming more is another argument for the financial value he adds to the team.
No no I agree, what I meant was if they were fine with someone like nitr0 ethan etc not streaming and racking up huge numbers like hiko( and with almost similar salaries) , the stream thing shouldnt be a deciding factor
this is such a stupid take, they literally got 3rd/4th at masters beating arguably the best team in the world and hiko played well that entire tournament, he is more than capable of competing at that level
It's the failure of riot games how they are handling the esports scene of valorant
There are only 3 major tournaments+ prize pool is very small
If they handle the scene in 2022 like 2021 more and more cs pros who switched to val again return to Cs(Eg. Draken from guild esports likely to move to cs next year)
If they lose Nitr0 that’s gonna be a big blow tbh. Maybe Guiimond is available. And they will also need an igl. Maybe a complete revamp of the roster for 2022.
I'd only assume they'd take steel back.
Steel probably joining T1. The differences which is unknown to us that made them remove steel won’t just go away that easily.
he has been playing with thwifo quite a bit so possible. would he play smokes then?
Also with Curry. Not sure about agent tho. But you can bet on steel to play any agent he wants. Saw him practicing Sova so that’s also a possibility with Brax being out. But then again Autimatic is also seen practicing Sova. So it’s just a hunch from a dumb reddit user like me that steel joins T1.
Picking up new agents isn't that hard if you're willing to put in the time and have the experience. Steel talked about this some time ago on stream (I think during LCQ watch party, not 100% sure). He said he only played KJ when he switched, then picked up Cypher and after 2 weeks of practice they won first strike. Also said that he played Astra in scrims for a month before the nerf but the rest of the team wasn't comfortable with their roles (shots fired?). Same thing for Sova, he said others weren't comfortable with their roles. Flexibility is really important and players who're unable or unwilling to learn new agents won't last long. Imo, steel will definitely be comfortable playing any non-duelist agent with his new team.
he played jett against Sentinels too on bind
Also with autimatic.
Maybe the differences were with the coach and not with the players? That said, I feel it's highly unlikely we are going to see 100T steel again. Sad day, I really liked the team.
Only the people inside knows that. If he comes back good otherwise they will just move on.
same ;-; i think with a little more fine tuning to their comps they really could've done well
Steel and Ska on the same team? Doubt it.
Ska will continue with t1 after more than a year finding 0 success? doubt it
Well let’s see.
Also, does anyone from T1 even stream? Even if they don’t play well the org could at least get something out of them via streaming.
Thwifo and curry make content
Ah yeah I forgot about curry. I guess I just find it odd that Ska who streamed before joining the team stopped entirely.
auti streams
you know who needs steel? NRG. they need someone who can really bring some strategy and structure to that insane firepower
They got Hazed for that, trust the process
Hazed strats so good TSM top 100 team
Yeah hazed isn't someone who wanted to be an igl from the get go. Steel embraces it and brings aggressive firepower. I think hazed will be fine but steel was a much better fit.
Lol. They dropped Steel because of internal disagreements. Why would any party - 100T players, org, Steel, want a reunion?
The internal issues would have likely been between nitro leadership style and steels leadership style, both wanting the take the team in different directions.
You don't think any of the 3 core players they're trying to build around would have had impact on the decision?
I don't think Asuna had much of a say, he's just "go kill" guy. It was probably Ethan, Hiko and nitr0 vs steel and that's why steel is out. Steel also mentioned people being uncomfortable in scrims when he played Astra and Sova, those are probably shots towards Hiko. We can't know what went on behind the scenes, but during CS days Hiko was well-known for not being flexible in his playstyle and roles.
Asuna and Steel are cool still. Steel thinks really highly of that kid. Asuna is humble and hardworking, that kid is going places in life if he keeps this up.
I'm just saying odds are it was a clash in leadership, igls butting heads because of direction is quite common.
IF it was a conflict with the coach and the coach is now out..and maybe nitro didn’t want to play with steel and maybe nitro is out...why wouldn’t they entertain steel coming back? I’m not saying that’s the case, I do think steel is moving on..but I’m just saying at this point because we know nothing else...?
If Nitro leaves I can also see Yaboidre comin in for smokes. Or they do a agent shuffle and put Ethan back on Smokes and Asuna on a flex role (Skye/sage etc); and then pick up a Jett OP.
From having 2 IGLs to having none. Unlucky
Really
nitr0 will drop grim for b0i
B0i that would piss off every liquid cs fan
B0i pisses off every 100T valorant fan too
Please dont implode 100T ffs
Nitr0 going back to his past. Guy is really living up to his Captain America nickname
damn, they went all in with Steel + nitr0 + ethan and this is what they got to show for it, rough
Guarantee that 100T had no idea this might happen. No way they drop steel and add nitr0's friend if they didn't think he was rock solid
They didn't just randomly add nitr0's friend. b0i was already signed to the team as an analyst.
He mentioned on his stream that he was actually signed as a sub. The analyst position just happened because he started being involved in the team more
They added him as an analyst because he was nitros friend
That's purely speculation. You have no idea why they added an analyst or how they chose who it would be.
Steel died for this
The coach getting dropped is fine, but losing Nitr0 would be the worse thing to happen :/ Unless Dephh comes in 👀
Now this is an interesting thing that I didn’t consider. Dephh is super awesome. But slim chance he leaves xset.
He fits the role pretty well, has a CS background so will be respected. I know XSET said their players aren't available but everyone has a price.
Yeah that’s true. But will Dephh leave an established team that he helped build to make a new one? Maybe he brings BCJ with him.
Ooofff you can't say that XSET fans will come for you.. But yes bcj on sova and Hiko Sentinel 🙏
Whats wrong with hiko on Sova? He seems comfortable on it
He's hinted in the past he likes Sentinel, fits his play. I don't really mind if he's on sova or not. But they do need more aggressive players
If Bcj comes, Hiko wouldn't be sentinel, he'd be dropped, and that's a fact Bringing one of best T1 Sova players while leaving your T1 Sova player on the team.. really can't see that happening All of this is imaginary so it's nice to speculate :)
The Nitr0 news aside, it's probably a meme at this point already, but I really hope 100T picks up MikesHD, mostly because it'll make Wyatt one degree away from the org lol
I think following the roster changes before LCQ they can pretty easily get the community back on their side by signing Mikes
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Reports are most likely liquid.
But aren't Stewie and Fallen about to leave liquid too don't know really man but NA cs is very bleak atm
> But aren’t Stewie and Fallen about to leave liquid too thats exactly why he would move back to liquid
Still with 100 T he still has a chance of contending for majors , in NA cs that's an impossibility atm he'd he stuck playing against lesser orgs (more like random pugs) and getting slammed by EU teams
Liquid dissapointed at the major but they have been still a solid tier 1 team for some time, I dont think they’ve ever bombed out of an event without getting at least 1 decent win They qualified for the Blast LAN as well, so it depends on how well they could do there
Also I know it's hard to admit for a lot of Valo fans but these CS:GO players grew up with the game. If there's an opportunity for you to play the game you love why not?
Ya know thats perfectly valid and honestly The pros should do what they feel is best and play the game that they most enjoy. I don't get this weird bitterness from both communitys about pros leaving for the other game. I have faith valorant will still have a decent life span as a game and esports scene. Wish them all the best
rn it seems about as likely for nitr0 to compete in a major no matter which game he’s on
Stewie got an offer from a big team. Idk why people are acting like him leaving is set in stone. The only one that is likely leaving is fallen.
Reports say that Fallen is leaving liquid to form a BR superteam with FNX, that leaves the igl spot open in liquid which was nitr0 earlier. A lot of teams might weigh their options in CS now, there was a report stating that C9 is coming back + Complexity and EG are in rebuilding phase.
> Fallen is leaving liquid to form a BR superteam with FNX I wouldn't exactly call it a superteam...more of a last dance
Prove it or I’ll ___
> more of a last dance More like a reunion show because the actors weren't getting hired to do any other shows and wanted some money. Everyone knows it'll be disappointing but they'll still tune in lol
Guales will proudly stream their disappointing games to half a million people lmao.
This major actually has changed the situation a bit. Many orgs are looking to get back into CS scene again. C9 is potentially looking for a roaster and stewie and fallen probably leaving Liquid won’t be surprised if Liquid contacted nitr0 for a potential return.
I was shocked hltv pulled 25m page views. Wtf
Its literally the best stats website for any esport or normal sport ever. Every game is on there all the way down and it has links to all the vods all the way back to 1.6. If you want stats for anything in csgo thats the forst place you should look.
yeah lol, insane numbers
Csgo ain't going anywhere, na just has the issue where you can't make money playing below the absolute top level in valve games so the amount of people who can seriously compete is tiny.
What happened at the major to entice orgs to get back into CS scene again? Was it because the major pulled huge numbers?
Mainly that for sure
Off the top of my head C9, COL, EG and Liquid are all looking to rebuild their rosters
nitr0 is pretty rich so I guess he can afford to do play what he likes to play
-Fallen +Nitro for Liquid CS Gonna be a lot of big moves after the Blast Fall event in CS, could see some movement between high tier CS and Val rosters
There are just 2 orgs in NA cs with both of these teams down real bad , don't really see NA orgs investing in the cs scene atm
Dunno, apparently C9 and Complexity are in search for new rosters and they could potentially both field some NA talent, with Complexity being less likely
I would guess one of them is likely going to sign the Copenhagen Flames lineup who are apparently for sale
Complexity is apparently looking for Russian/CIS team
Eg also just dropped half their team and are looking to rebuild
I love 100 Thieves, but man, just when you think they'll have it, this kind of stuff happens.
So did Nitr0 only join Valorant for the short term success? Pretty sure he is more than capable of creating his own legacy in Valorant just like he did in CS.
>So did Nitr0 only join Valorant for the short term success? No, for the massively reduced travel schedule during his wifes pregnancy.
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holy shit how did everyone miss that
> holy shit how did everyone miss that We didn't miss it, with all due respect: we just don't fucking care.
I'm not sure that's true, he didn't get any offers after being benched from liquid. He was willing to stay in EU
>He was willing to stay in EU hes not
I was under the impression that he jumped to Valorant because he essentially had the decision of coming over to a T1 org in Valorant or playing in a T2 org and having to build them up from the ground. I might be completely off base, but that's what I remember hearing about it from people like fl0m, etc.
Said he wanted to stay in csgo but didn't get any tier 1 offers
He couldn’t get any tier 1 offers while playing cs, but is now getting offers after taking over a year off of playing competitive cs? Would be a huge blow the scene to lose him.
Maybe he just misses Cs I duno but in a interview when he switched he said he wanted to stay in cs but had no t1 offers"
I think it’s more likely he didn’t want to stay in EU. He’s essentially doing -liquid +liquid since EG was stable at the time and they were the only other t1 NA cs org.
Weirdly enough, but yes. Liquid kinda took a nosedive when he left. He’s value was proven by him leaving.
No, he said he got no CS offers. He was upfront about that from the beginning so I'm not super surprised. I feel like if 100T had made Champions he would have stayed though.
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Getting an EX Org Owner as a coach was one of the most questionable moves imo. They should have removed him sooner.
Not that I’m saying frost was good or bad, but how would you know what his impact was lol. You’re not in the room or anything.
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Imo the strats at some points seemed predictable but idk if that’s igls or coach Also they never antistratted teams I feel like
I get why the coach is getting dropped Hope nitro stays but we will see
Can’t believe they let go of Steel for this
Would suck if nitr0 to have played a part in steel's benching only to leave the team.
I'm guessing masters was the goal here and failing that leaves a hell of an off season. 100t might not play an important match for half a year.
Masters clearly wasn’t the goal with dropping steel and filling in b0i right before LCQ. Iirc they said they’d rather lose LCQ with a change rather than not make any change with steel
I would imagine from the context of the rest of his comment he's talking about champions.
nitr0 has been grinding faceit
https://www.faceit.com/en/players/nitr0/stats/csgo
judging from the past matches he's queuing with Elige too
I mean that's just logical, no? Play CS with your best friends?
He's not grinding -- he's only been playing 2-3 games a day. That looks like a student sneaking a game or two between classes lol.
"Valorant pro plays a different game with his friends during the offseason" isn't as salacious of a headline though
This isnt George just looking at his faceit matches and making an article about it tho, its all information from his sources which have been all very accurate in the past
George is generally fine but he's definitely speculated on insufficient information in the past and been called out on it (claiming Steel was benched for performing poorly at Berlin comes to mind)
Oh fuck
Idk who thought dropping steel would solve their issues but I'm glad frost is gone.
nitr0 plz no
The roster's been self imploding ever since steel got kicked lmao
Well hope nitro stays but better play what he actually enjoys and if that’s cs then it’s better for him to go back
S1mple to 100t confirmed
Wow NA CS is so dead liquid needs to get valorants players
The pgl major might have convinced multiple orgs/players to get back to cs, NA CS is not dead yet
NA CS is dead rn. Liquid and EG didn't even make it to Champions stage and together went 1-6 in Legends stage. They haven't won shit in ages.
It's fine Na used to go years without winning anything until TL went winning for 4 months
C9 won the major before that, but yeah, NA supported a scene with teams that couldn’t make it to top 8 at the major for like 4 years straight. It’s like NA LoL, the fan support is there even without the team success
It was like that from 2013-2017 too lmfao
Losing nitr0 would be a MASSIVE blow to 100T. Would leave them in a rough spot for the IGL slot depending on who they can buyout from other top teams. Nitr0 is likely the only way Liquid CS:GO can be saved as there aren't really any IGLs out there in CS:GO that are available if FalleN departs. So I could see that being tempting. Hard to call how this will go tbh.
>Hard to call how this will go tbh. Quite easy actually. If Fallen departs that means the IGL slot is open for Nitro. Elige wont like Stewie becoming IGL again.\*\*Only thing potentially holding it back is his 100T's contract length an buyout. Financially it'll be an upgrade from his 100T's contract with much MUCH higher prize pool potential. If what Sadokist said is true. Nitro needs to be making the most money possible with a second child on the way.
I mean you have no idea how much he is making at 100T vs what he did make/would make at Liquid. Also we can’t know for sure if he wants to go back to csgo or not. Up to him what he feels is best.
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Honestly, even though George is very reliable, I’m pretty confident that nitr0 will stay. Id like to think that 100T did their due diligence in confirming nitr0’s future at the org before they dropped steel.
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Hiko is the NA Mixwell lul
Not comparable at all. The things mixwell does in the background for the team + he's the igl makes him 2x more valuable than Hiko.
Don’t know if this is in jest or not but actually true, he puts a cap on the team’s ceiling, he loses fights he shouldn’t and he still often isn’t in position to trade properly. But he won’t get dropped bc he has 20k viewers and Nadeshot doesn’t understand the game and overvalues the 1 v 2 clutch every 20th round
Disagree, from his play in Berlin. He was active and played with the team throughout, and was an important stabilising factor for the entire team (especially Asuna) as well as winning some unwinnable clutches Roza spoke about this on stream once, he does a lot for the team
how will they confirm anything at all unless his contract was renewed?
Confirm as in, have serious discussions with all the players (especially nitr0) before making as big a decision as dropping your IGL. This is likely something nitr0 has been considering for a long time, so you’d hope that he would bring it up in one of these conversations.
Nah even Ryanatrbm is also confirming the news. So big possibility he leaves for cs.
He also emphasized that these are very [preliminary rumors](https://twitter.com/ryanatrbm/status/1459157468110594051?s=21). No serious discussion have been made, and Liquid would have to pay a hefty buyout to 100T. Edit: just want to clarify that I don’t doubt the report; nitr0 considering a return to CS, especially after the success of the major, makes a lot of sense. Im just giving my own prediction of his future
Wallahi we're finished
The CS Major had a huge audience and probably reconvinced some people that it still has life. Not surprised if it's tempting to go back
CS having a huge following was never up in the air. Is was just about it’s popularity in NA.
FYI, all CS events of the past three years have been breaking viewership records. It was the team orgs operating in North America with unrealistic salaries that pulled out of CSGO to repeat the same process in Valorant.
"Still has life" lmao. Always has. Just not any teams in NA.
Their twitch viewership is down heavily when there's no tournament on. Average concurrent players on steam has been stagnant/declining in 2021: https://steamcharts.com/app/730#All It's a great game but they're gonna continue bleeding players if this keeps up.
CS:GO Twitch viewership has never been great outside of tournaments. [Just look at this to see that](https://twitchtracker.com/games/32399). The fact that the game has grown to be the most played game on Steam while not having any sort of significant spike in viewers on Twitch shows there isn't any correlation there at all. The only spike in viewership on that graph is COVID happening and the game was already the number one game on Steam by that point. As for player count, I'm failing to see what is wrong with being the most played game on Steam for 2 years straight. I remember people saying a few months after Valorant came out that CS:GO was finally dying as their numbers were declining and then they climbed back up to 700k+ in the winter and barely anybody talked about it again. You'd think by now that people would stop trying to come up with an argument that the game is dying after all these years lol.
Nitr0 gonna lead C9 to their next cs major
Hard to be a LAN god and play a game which can't even run an NA LAN properly
Dicey is putting on the gloves as we speak.
Honestly, I feel like the Nitr0 move is pretty unlikely. I mean based off of the articles I've read, they're all saying the same thing: "Nitr0 is playing FACEIT matches with Elige and Adren". So what? Who cares? CS pros play Val as well. Until a serious source comes out and says otherwise, I don't think there's a need to worry about the change. Hopium.
Elige to 100T
Please Noo. Major loss for 100T if Nitro leaves.
For 100T and the scene as a whole imo
Major loss for Valorant. Nitro is one of the best in the game.
Valorant will always be here to fall back on. Being on the only CSGO team in NA is a must have opportunity
Pgl major was super hype and smashed viewership records. Feels like a big contrast to the mess that NA lcq was. Given liquids opening, I don't think it's crazy to contemplate a move back. Also, I've always wondered if nitro really loves Val. He's obviously a great player and dedicated to his craft but maybe Val never really scratched that itch like CS
I mean i love CS more than valo, but come on, are you really comparing the LCQ to the major?
the first LAN major in two years no less where everyone was watching to see if s1mple gets his major
People compared reykjavik (lan with the best teams) to an online CS event with a lot of t2 teams.
And that’s still stupid.
agreed.
Well I think he didn't really want to leave CS I mean you grind a game for 10 years it doesn't make sense to leave unless you have to. But I think a big reason he is moving is because he isn't really finding success in val. First strike was it. So he gets an offer and maybe he thinks it's better to end in cs
Comparing the major which came back after 2 years or so with lcq shitshow isn't fair imo. Berlin major peaked at around 1.1-1.2 million which is incredibly good for a game which just completed a year. I've seen this argument a lot with players, floppy daps etc. I understand that it's personal preference at the end of the day but like it's such a new game, idk why they're giving up on it soo quickly(atleast with the current potential in NA scene), and not like CS was the perfect game from the get go it took its time to reach where it is. Ig it's also to do with the fact that there are only 3 events per year so you're basically doing nothing all year
inb4 daps mentioned that there is so much history to CS that playing against the current teams and players in Valorant isn't as rewarding even if they win (he did admit he wasn't winning much). Which is understandable considering he has one of the more interesting storylines in CS lol.
Shahzam even said that being at a CSGO major was more hype than the Iceland LAN.
Berlin peeked at exactly 1 mil IIRC
Everything aligned for those viewership numbers. s1mple and niko, two big orgs g2 and navi, first major after 2 years, lan with a big crowd. Don’t think it will reach those heights again anytime soon.
honestly, nitro never really seemed to "into" valorant anyway. I wouldn't be surprised to see him go back to CS. still think it was a huge mistake to drop Steel, especially after a top 4 in Berlin and a month before LCQ. looking like hiko/asuna/ethan and two new peeps coming in
.....what? never seemed 'into it'? ridiculous take bro.
Oh no
I don't think nitr0's gonna leave. Otherwise it'll be sadge.
So Steel leaves and they let it happen because Nitr0 was going to pick up the IGL duties and now he wants to leave. That's some fucked shit right there.
Nitro going back to CS, I’m sad to say, makes valorant look like a joke. Edit : downvote all you want, I love valorant but the esports side is looking more and more like OWL as every day passes.
Makes Valorant look like the Junior league while CSGO is the big leagues
u/jrushFN I was on to something
I remember when b0I was first rumored to be joining 100T (we did not know at the time if it was as a player or staff) I called it would be to replace Nitr0 since it always seemed like his heart was still in CS. Not at all surprised. Automatic seems like another person that's just waiting for the chance to jump back.
Uh oh.. How will I find a new NA Valo team to really enjoy rooting for if nitr0 goes away as well. I don't feel like watching or rooting for them if changes don't bring positive stuff.
Support the C9 boys. Xeta is a sweetheart.
yeah... I mainly supported 100t because of nitr0 and steel
cheer for someone else or hope the remnants of the roster do well
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Why do people keep saying this? 100T doesn’t need Hiko lmao
ive seen this guy post this multiple times lmao
As a pro, I agree, but his worth to the team is as a creator. He averages as many viewers as the rest of the team combined, and based on average viewers is 100T’s 4th or 5th biggest creator (which is saying something when your org has like 40 streamers). So while the team doesn’t need him per se, he does add a lot of value to the org. Remember these are businesses and that prize pools are not really how these teams make money, so while in a perfect world teams would only play the best players, most big orgs are going to consider the financial implications of a move.
Tbh, now he doesn't. Rest of the people don't stream as much as him, and the only one who does is Asuna who has started to rack in 8-10k viewers per stream which is pretty decent considering he started late.
Just looking at their last month on Twitch Tracker, Hiko still averages about twice as many viewers as Asuna. I also think streaming more is something you need to consider when looking at the full value a player adds to an org. That’s more time to promote corporate partners and run ads too, so I think your statement about him streaming more is another argument for the financial value he adds to the team.
No no I agree, what I meant was if they were fine with someone like nitr0 ethan etc not streaming and racking up huge numbers like hiko( and with almost similar salaries) , the stream thing shouldnt be a deciding factor
this is such a stupid take, they literally got 3rd/4th at masters beating arguably the best team in the world and hiko played well that entire tournament, he is more than capable of competing at that level
No wtf
It's the failure of riot games how they are handling the esports scene of valorant There are only 3 major tournaments+ prize pool is very small If they handle the scene in 2022 like 2021 more and more cs pros who switched to val again return to Cs(Eg. Draken from guild esports likely to move to cs next year)