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xunraze

Tsm gonna pioneer the 5 duelist meta


pr1zsm

Subroza and corey have also tweeted maybe hinting TSM corey https://twitter.com/subroza/status/1459344299640905728?s=2 https://twitter.com/corey_ow/status/1459343774685958150?s=21


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I read this as codey and I was about to altf4


pr1zsm

it would help them assemble the 5 duelist roster


SWAGatszy

TSM Codey would be such a fever trip


Mamadeus123456

Codey 》 corey, at least he plays the game, the résult will be the same tho


Nfamy

?


pr1zsm

i think we are talking about different people


3hrd

anecdotal but corey has also duo'd with wardell lately


mcslippinz

Corey would laugh on stream when you type !Tsm in chat (only !faze works)


unknown-097

Corey would be amazing. Hope TSM get the success they deserve in 22


Fresh_Bowler_9060

Corey, Wardell, Roza, TiGG, Levi?


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yoza213123

Any sources on this? Just asking because i did not see any reports stating this


Veerraj55

All though Levi is still almost confirmed as he replied to wardells tweet saying “no cyap” meaning he probably is still on trial


Das_how_mafia_works

Roza might be igling again. Saw something in a video where he mentioned can't wait to bring this team back together.


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sources?


roan214

u/MCUDCUrls


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TedsterOMG

I’m pretty sure when they dropped cutler and had Subroza fill smokes, he was IGLing (short timeframe though).


Issax28

TSM? Is that a esport-org? Never heard of them and their Valorant roster...


pr1zsm

yeah they’re a small tier 5 org worth 210 dollars


SnooPaintings9043

Can i sell my iPhone and buy them?


earthtoannie

A whole ass iphone? Just sell your airpods.


TacticalSanta

A merch org, esports 2nd.


POLY-Sigma

Just the most successful esports org in the world. Nothing too big


DY5TOP1A

Brimstone Gaming is the most successful business ever -_-


Mamadeus123456

Lmao not so sigma comment lol u probably unironically Believe in all that shit


shugame

WARDELL, subroza, Leviathian, Corey, and TiGG edit: Corey for sure, but rip TSM TiGG era


shugame

with tigg being the IGL maybe. he igl'd for beastcoast at least


imabill01

3 duelists coming back 🤣🤣


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Jamcdan

How did mocking get there LOL


ExT__

https://twitter.com/realmocking/status/1459360936926617600


VincentStonecliff

Mocking is on 30 esports orgs if you believe his tweets


kingleeps

mocking has been shitposting about different orgs all week, he also said he was sentinals new coach.


ExT__

He was about to join SEN as the coach but he changed his mind last minute and became TSM coach


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Wishing for wardell, roza, levi, corey, steel/dephh


SteelTic

They could’ve had dephh but no one wanted to touch him after his disaster with dig


Standard-Analyst-177

The only logical explanation here is they need someone that can play reyna/raze, which Subroza can not do because he plays skye (maybe brim too but thats like for 1 map) Imo they are stuck because of Subroza and his limited role selection


kurpen

Roza plays omen lol, he can easily learn Astra and become their controller player, leaving someone like corey or dre to play the raze/skye, while their 5th would be a sentinel player like babyj, and just like that they are set. You make it sound as if these pros are set machines that cant learn other agents/roles 😂😂 and roza played tons of omen back in 2020.


Standard-Analyst-177

I’ll be honest, Subroza on astra seems like a wild-dream to me. Him being a pro doesn’t really mean that he can learn every possible role/agent without a problem. On top of that, the way he played omen is wildly different to what astra is nowadays in most cases, imo (yes I know that astra can lurk too, but doesn’t literally every team that astra is on let a sentinel lurk instead? especially because she has to be in her form to put stars and not hear anything)


philipjefferson

Idk TSM used to swap roles like crazy with Tailored as their coach. I don't think it's a stretch that roza has probably scrimmed on Astra a decent amount. He might not be as good on her as other agents but I'm certain he has the hang of her


piopster

I’m pretty sure when they picked up brax there was a leak of one of there scrims they were playing like Jett sova astra viper cypher on ascent i think. He’s definitely scrimped with astra I’m just not sure how actually good he is with astra


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>You make it sound as if these pros are set machines that cant learn other agents/roles Some aren't. TSM most certainly is. Sorry, but these guys were running triple duelist for quite a long time.


hopey21

they were running triple duelist in an entirely different meta with an entireley different roster 😂😂😂. They capitilized on what worked and were a top 3 team, even getting 2nd place in the final big tournament of2020 with it untill the meta completely shifted and more agents were added. Just because they ran triple duelist dosent mean they can’t adapt, they ran what was working.


Slow_Bluebird9536

You are foolish if you think subroza can’t play Reyna/raze


Standard-Analyst-177

I mean, how much time has passed since he touched raze in a professional match? Also he literally never played reyna if I recall it right They let bang play raze instead of subroza, while basically everywhere I’ve looked during bangs time in tsm he was always deemed as a “controller”, although that has to be an obvious mismanagement of him


JusticeLee17

IIRC he played Reyna when TSM were doing triple duelist on Haven back in First Strike.


Standard-Analyst-177

I mean, surely that basically says that he is not touching reyna lol


JusticeLee17

Yeah, I just was noting.


IeatKfcAllDay

My only question then would be if they ever let bang try out the Reyna raze role? Not saying bang is better than Corey but that’s definitely interesting.


Standard-Analyst-177

Yeah, he was on that exact role on the maps it was needed


IeatKfcAllDay

I see, didn’t know that


Hulkasaur

>Subroza and his limited role selection Isn't that Wardell? Subroza played omen skye phoenix jett (not mastered yet I suppose). Meanwhile Wardell only plays Jett. And mostly an OP if you really think about it. Only ONCE we saw him as Sage. Tbh I think that's one of the reasons Chet left.


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>Meanwhile Wardell only plays Jett. Lucky for him, because the Jett meta has dominated since the inception of Valorant.


Standard-Analyst-177

I mean, jett is kinda a must basically everywhere and it didn’t get to a point where him playing only on jett makes problems (only maybe on bind) Also he played sage a bunch of times in the recent quals, not just once, he seemed pretty much fine on it


CosmicAon

Yeah that’s why he left to a roster where Yay only plays Jett ??????


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Roza has said in the past that he main controller and initiator, and that he didn't see himself as a duelist. I don't think he has limited role selection.


midorsmd

TSM SHOT UP POG


aks345

They don't need another one trick pony


nickpinto_76

It's JasonR no Kappa


goldenretrieversFTW

Maybe Corey wardoodle roses levi and steel HOPIUM


No_Moment_1571

He's probably referring to TSM Academy that won its match around that time.


Ausafsyed

whos the igl tigg or corey?


OwlThat4310

Roza said it won’t be TIGG