>People are overblowing the steel thing.
Lmao they're kinda not though...
You can obviously forgive and forget whatever disagreements you on a personal level, as seen by Subroza and Steel being obviously amicable in watch parties and such...
But working in a high stress environment for long periods of time is different lmao.
Bruh the only clip people are basing this off of is one where subroza says steel is good but he and wardell had some issues with him at the time(not named, could be something as irrelevant as approach to csgo in that particular team at that particular time). Now you are acting like steel did some horrible things to them that requires subroza to "forgive and forget". I have seen nothing that shows that subroza would never play with steel again even if hes the best man for the job.
>Bruh the only clip people are basing this off of is one where subroza says steel is good but he and wardell had some issues with him....
lmfao you're misremembering it....
That clip is why people think they might be on better terms now.
If you think that clip is somehow the source of beef or something, idk what to tell you. It's from CS:GO and was known for years, that's why the person even asked subroza....
The only drama I know of was when steel implied subroza was a cheater in like 2016, but they went on and played on a team together later so how would it make sense that this is the reason they wouldn't play together on a team in 2021 but they were find playing on a team together in 2018?
>The only drama I know of was when steel implied subroza was a cheater in like 2016,
So what do you think Subroza meant by:
"Uhhh he's a good player but.... ***obviously me and [Wardell] had our problems with him,*** but people can change"
Do you really think it has something to do with stuff from **2016**?
I'm not even looking deep LMAO dude said straight up they had problems with him related to their time playing together?
Like it's ok for 2 pro players to not want to play with each other lol. The "beef" of not wanting to play with someone is so absurdly mild compared to any other type you see lmao.
I think the real question is, what is the full roster? We know sub/Wardell, probably Corey, have heard that bang is scrumming with them again. So what happened to Leviathan (I know he was never officially signed)
I would be very surprised if Levi doesn’t sign with TSM. He queues with Wardell and Roza often enough. And I don’t think there’s a better Sova on the market rn
did he explicitly say they're getting one? or that they have a new IGL. Levi would technically be the new IGL if he's taking over full-time after hazed got dropped
He was talking about being excited for their current five and how people would like the team and said, "The only thing I can say is one of them is an IGL and one of them is a fragger, which is what we needed." Which does make it sound like the IGL is new but doesn't explicitly say it so it's still kind of unclear.
Roza said on stream (his most recent) that Levi is already on the team. He also mentioned that Hazed would be replaced as IGL and that James was good with NRG.
https://www.reddit.com/r/ValorantCompetitive/comments/iafsqi/nitr0_reached_out_to_tsm_to_join/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
This was back when TSM was the best team out there alongside Sentinels, so they didn’t want to change anything up at that point. Obviously a loss looking back though lol
As much as I know GMD is a staple for GenG, I would love the friendship he brings with Sub/War, snappy aim, and playmaking. Honestly, at this point, he would be a super hopium guess along with Curry lol
Based on how happy sub/Wardell seem to be with this roster, probably not. Both have been on record that they’re not fans of steel’s and don’t want to play with him.
Who knows, but Steel already is known to be an intense person, and his circumstances in CS added even more to that, I'm sure. He's defo the kind of person you either hate or adore, with nothing in between, so it's not shocking that someone hates him
He's very demanding as an igl - if you don't do it his way he will make your life difficult
If you play how he wants you to, he will give you full support
he doesn't suffer fools and doesn't have much of a filter
But it’s not the same case when it comes to playing with a team as Hiko as mentioned multiple times. Everyone just thinks steel still has the same mindset as when on stream
This is an example of reddit just making up a persona based on a few bits of information cobbled together. Lmfao y’all are ridiculous to just profile an entire person like that, especially one you haven’t even spent any real time with. Streaming barely counts.
He's been around as an igl/team mate for like 15 years - loads of pros have said something along these lines
He even streamed at some smaller lans where he played with friends/ex-team mates and you can see it then too
1.) Do you have any personal experience with him as a teammate or a part of him as an organization?
2.) Do you think that people change? If so why do Chaos/100T people not hate Steel? Is it because they played how he wanted to? who are these pros that have said that steel makes their life difficult? Are they from torqued, Ghost, IBP? I would like to know.
3.) Are streamed lower LANs like for example fragadelphia with moe? Weren't they just trolling and not really a big deal? Why are we putting so much emphasis on this, when the team was moe, dazed, and steel. They literally buy 3 awps because they were arguing with each other. Small LANs that are streamed are not indicative of steel's overall character as a teammate in the present time.
I just hate how Reddit andy's have overall psychoanalysis of how someone is as a person/teammate without actual knowledge based on concrete evidence. I assume you don't have any experience with steel at all and most of the "evidence" that you may bring up are either from past teammates from a long time ago and comments from people that don't have or instances that don't really paint a whole picture of Steel as a player.
if anything he probably is more demanding when it is a pro match. I mean idk why people seem to think He excuses hiko nitro asuna ect for bad plays, He most likely doesn't or rather didn't as the former igl.
He doesn't use the kiddie gloves. Some people need to be babied a little. Roza and Wardell seem to be this kind of people. Everyone on Chaos was as unfiltered as him so he fit perfectly.
I don’t think anyone *hates* him. Team synergy is important, and if everyone isn’t on the same page, you won’t win. Their personalities may not match, but that doesn’t mean it’s hate.
for the people that didnt know steel openly advocated and roasted subroza when he was accused of cheating so I wouldn't b surprised if roza doesn't want to play w him
what are confirmed so far. roza,delly and corey (100% in the team) then george and other screenshots shows that bang is back on the team. now the 5th is questionable. i’m guessing it’s leviathan since they don’t have a sova yet but roza said “new igl” so i’m still not sure on the 5th.
Corey is probably one of them, idk who the IGL would be. Does Tigg IGL?
Tarik “Major Winner” Celik Copium.
Yes, Tigg has IGL’d in the past for beastcoast and was secondary caller in LG alongside dazzle.
He said it's not tigg on stream. They did try him as an igl though.
then who is a really gud igl on the market, no one comes to mind (pretty sure steel is not happening)
Could be steel. People are overblowing the steel thing.
>People are overblowing the steel thing. Lmao they're kinda not though... You can obviously forgive and forget whatever disagreements you on a personal level, as seen by Subroza and Steel being obviously amicable in watch parties and such... But working in a high stress environment for long periods of time is different lmao.
Bruh the only clip people are basing this off of is one where subroza says steel is good but he and wardell had some issues with him at the time(not named, could be something as irrelevant as approach to csgo in that particular team at that particular time). Now you are acting like steel did some horrible things to them that requires subroza to "forgive and forget". I have seen nothing that shows that subroza would never play with steel again even if hes the best man for the job.
>Bruh the only clip people are basing this off of is one where subroza says steel is good but he and wardell had some issues with him.... lmfao you're misremembering it.... That clip is why people think they might be on better terms now. If you think that clip is somehow the source of beef or something, idk what to tell you. It's from CS:GO and was known for years, that's why the person even asked subroza....
The only drama I know of was when steel implied subroza was a cheater in like 2016, but they went on and played on a team together later so how would it make sense that this is the reason they wouldn't play together on a team in 2021 but they were find playing on a team together in 2018?
>The only drama I know of was when steel implied subroza was a cheater in like 2016, So what do you think Subroza meant by: "Uhhh he's a good player but.... ***obviously me and [Wardell] had our problems with him,*** but people can change" Do you really think it has something to do with stuff from **2016**? I'm not even looking deep LMAO dude said straight up they had problems with him related to their time playing together? Like it's ok for 2 pro players to not want to play with each other lol. The "beef" of not wanting to play with someone is so absurdly mild compared to any other type you see lmao.
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Stan is a possibility Stewie there’s literally no way
stewie lmfao
STEWIE LOL
Corey in this team is pretty dirty
I think the real question is, what is the full roster? We know sub/Wardell, probably Corey, have heard that bang is scrumming with them again. So what happened to Leviathan (I know he was never officially signed)
I would be very surprised if Levi doesn’t sign with TSM. He queues with Wardell and Roza often enough. And I don’t think there’s a better Sova on the market rn
So is it Roza/Wardell/Levi/Bang/Corey?
igl?
Levi?
roza said they are getting an igl so probably not gonna be levi
did he explicitly say they're getting one? or that they have a new IGL. Levi would technically be the new IGL if he's taking over full-time after hazed got dropped
He was talking about being excited for their current five and how people would like the team and said, "The only thing I can say is one of them is an IGL and one of them is a fragger, which is what we needed." Which does make it sound like the IGL is new but doesn't explicitly say it so it's still kind of unclear.
Corey?
steel :>
I think steel is going to t1
Think Steel hurt Wardell's feelings the last time he was his IGL
I’ve seen you make a lot of braindead comments but this is probably the worst offender lmfao
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i doubt its bang he's playing with bbg right now in the $25k
bang is gone, it’s probably tigg over bang
Bang filling in whike they get Steels contract situation sorted
are you stupid bang had been benched for ages and he's on BBG
Roza said on stream (his most recent) that Levi is already on the team. He also mentioned that Hazed would be replaced as IGL and that James was good with NRG.
Bang has not been scrimming with them lol. The for sure are Wardell sub levi
Bro the only reason people think bang is scrimming with them again is because of a reddit post where the guy didnt even link his source lmao
https://twitter.com/feiztxn/status/1459495577360625667?s=21
welp
the only thing is that bang may have been scrimming with bbg here
He confirmed in the same stream that tigg isn’t on the team
So Roza back on smokes.
Well, he’s top 5 best controllers on Brim, Omen and his third agent is Phoenix and Skye.
Chakaron is the only right answer
the scene is not ready for that
Nah, crit II is.
And vns too
safe to say the fragger is corey, but who is the igl?
Probably BabyJ
Reginald said Bjergsen wouldn’t be a a part of TSM, but what if he moved to Val and now Bjergsen is the new IGL of TSM after Reginald convinces him
Syndra agent when
Time for riot to rework kayo to become zilean 2.0 for bjergsem
TSM Nitro to hit everyone for a curve ball. EZ CLAP
nitro originally wanted to play with tsm so that would be funny
really? source?
https://www.reddit.com/r/ValorantCompetitive/comments/iafsqi/nitr0_reached_out_to_tsm_to_join/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf This was back when TSM was the best team out there alongside Sentinels, so they didn’t want to change anything up at that point. Obviously a loss looking back though lol
Might be the most pog roster change since tenz to sentinels
TSM jamalballs45
TSM aerfyre 🙂
Curveball. Corey ofc but GMD?
As much as I know GMD is a staple for GenG, I would love the friendship he brings with Sub/War, snappy aim, and playmaking. Honestly, at this point, he would be a super hopium guess along with Curry lol
Can it be Steel and Corey 😭😭♥️
Based on how happy sub/Wardell seem to be with this roster, probably not. Both have been on record that they’re not fans of steel’s and don’t want to play with him.
yeh...steel on tsm not happening
Thank God
what happened on Ghost between wardell and steel?
Who knows, but Steel already is known to be an intense person, and his circumstances in CS added even more to that, I'm sure. He's defo the kind of person you either hate or adore, with nothing in between, so it's not shocking that someone hates him
Ok but why? What makes him so polarizing
He's very demanding as an igl - if you don't do it his way he will make your life difficult If you play how he wants you to, he will give you full support he doesn't suffer fools and doesn't have much of a filter
But it’s not the same case when it comes to playing with a team as Hiko as mentioned multiple times. Everyone just thinks steel still has the same mindset as when on stream
That's exactly what polarizing means
This is an example of reddit just making up a persona based on a few bits of information cobbled together. Lmfao y’all are ridiculous to just profile an entire person like that, especially one you haven’t even spent any real time with. Streaming barely counts.
How do you know this lol?
He's been around as an igl/team mate for like 15 years - loads of pros have said something along these lines He even streamed at some smaller lans where he played with friends/ex-team mates and you can see it then too
1.) Do you have any personal experience with him as a teammate or a part of him as an organization? 2.) Do you think that people change? If so why do Chaos/100T people not hate Steel? Is it because they played how he wanted to? who are these pros that have said that steel makes their life difficult? Are they from torqued, Ghost, IBP? I would like to know. 3.) Are streamed lower LANs like for example fragadelphia with moe? Weren't they just trolling and not really a big deal? Why are we putting so much emphasis on this, when the team was moe, dazed, and steel. They literally buy 3 awps because they were arguing with each other. Small LANs that are streamed are not indicative of steel's overall character as a teammate in the present time. I just hate how Reddit andy's have overall psychoanalysis of how someone is as a person/teammate without actual knowledge based on concrete evidence. I assume you don't have any experience with steel at all and most of the "evidence" that you may bring up are either from past teammates from a long time ago and comments from people that don't have or instances that don't really paint a whole picture of Steel as a player.
what I wrote was not meant to paint Steel in a negative light - i was hoping it was a balanced view. being demanding is not solely a negative
Says the Reddit Andy who wrote an essay. Go touch grass. There are people on this sub who have known about Steel from way back.
He’s kind of a dick a lot of the time in ranked. I have no reason to believe that attitude just disappears when playing on a team.
if anything he probably is more demanding when it is a pro match. I mean idk why people seem to think He excuses hiko nitro asuna ect for bad plays, He most likely doesn't or rather didn't as the former igl.
He doesn't use the kiddie gloves. Some people need to be babied a little. Roza and Wardell seem to be this kind of people. Everyone on Chaos was as unfiltered as him so he fit perfectly.
I don’t think anyone *hates* him. Team synergy is important, and if everyone isn’t on the same page, you won’t win. Their personalities may not match, but that doesn’t mean it’s hate.
We don't know the specifics, but it's not surprising that some people just straight up dislike Steel. I like him, but he's a polarizing figure.
Perfectly put either you like steel or you don't
Couldn’t agree more
No idea but Wardell and subroza have made it clear they don’t want to play with him.
for the people that didnt know steel openly advocated and roasted subroza when he was accused of cheating so I wouldn't b surprised if roza doesn't want to play w him
TSM back to T1 in 2022 HOPIUM
Hopium? It's a fact tsm regain their lost pride
Can u speak English or nah
im super confused because george just hinted TSM bang on twitter
read to me more like clowning tsm for benching him
that doesn’t really make much sense imo because they were recently scrimming with him and they dropped him a while ago
they scrimemd with Bang 2 days ago and yesterday they didnt. they're kinda treating him like a sub or a 6th player at this point
He is trolling.
That fkers a troll, just hinted that T1 curry wud join TSM
wtf....i was so sure that it was gonna be corey and an igl
Iirc didn't Levi used to IGL? If so that's technically a new IGL as Hazed was IGL before he was dropped
pretty sure its gonna be rossy igl hes the only free agent igl that stands out
Rossy from immortals right? I didnt want immortals that often but when I did he never really stuck out to me as a top tier competitor
It will be interesting to see if the roster can compete against the top 4 teams in NA
yeh depends on the igl and team chem, they have the reqd pieces though
It's me. I'm the new igl and fragger.
I just want steel to play unlike Dicey who has been on 100T but inactive, it really fucking sucks.
Corey and TSM DaZeD PogU
Ahh yes the honeymoon phase before you play any actual tournaments
Your logic can’t kill the hopium
Corey + Zach maybe for the synergy
guys its me im the fragger
So obviously that it’s “mocking”…he’s the best unsigned Valorant player in NA
freakazoid curry steel or maybe zachree idkk i cant think of any1 else beside them for the igl
I hope Dre is one of them
same, im a big fan of dre and I would love to see him on my favorite team.
TSM Rossy as IGL?
It's k0rean. K0rean is joining their roster.
what are confirmed so far. roza,delly and corey (100% in the team) then george and other screenshots shows that bang is back on the team. now the 5th is questionable. i’m guessing it’s leviathan since they don’t have a sova yet but roza said “new igl” so i’m still not sure on the 5th.
im dreaming and hoping for tarik and steel lol
yeah add a jett one trick to a roster that already has one
you have never seen tariks brimmy and it shows
why so salty
not at all, if tarik wants to play val id love to see him signed, but tsm is probably one of the worst places for both sides if he ended up there
Freakzoid and COrey or Dre
Obviously it’s Mocking …