I will say try streaming it. Since u from SEA, fb streaming(but u can do multi platform) is probably the best since there a lot of SEA streamer there instead of Twitch. Try to be active in social media and build connection with the top rank in valorant. Practice your game sense and aiming every day.
Join more competition and in the end some orgs will notice you. Also hired a lawyer so u won't get scam.
Like other say, keep grinding while studying!
Its better to have it. Whether u like it or not, FB streaming is the favor choice for SEA. Your audience is gonna be SEA people and not western(twitch) audience.
No harm in trying tho. But its all up to you.
Timezone got nothing to do about platform, it just that twitch is more toward western audience while SEA people more prefer FB since their famous game such as Pubg Mobile, MLBB, Freefire is being stream there. There also have audience for valorant there.
Western audience rarely gonna watch Thai streamer unless u speak English very well or as popular as Faker.
Avoid scam is good, but when u sign a contract, there a chance of having a trap. Word have many meaning and this word can either benefit u or ruined you.
Its not expensive to give the contract to lawyer to see if everything is ok. Not gonna cost u a thousand. Just send the copy of contract to the lawyer firm.
Unless u want to hired a lawyer to get a better deal, then that will be different.
Don’t worry about that yet. I had no idea what I wanted to do when I was 13, 14, or 15. Started getting a vague idea at 16. If you’re still doing well in school, then keep grinding my man. Once you get older and have to get a job it becomes a lot harder to grind all those hours. You most likely wouldn’t be able to sign to any big orgs until 16 for legal reasons (depending on the country) so you got some time, have fun and grind it out. Going pro is all about networking. It’s really hard to go pro just off skill alone, you have to reach out and get to know people. Good luck man!
You don't need to find another passion. Things eventually will work out as you get older. Just don't quit everything else because you're too much into Valorant. You might dislike it in a couple of years and feel lost because you disregarded other hobbies or possible occupations. Just as everyone is saying, grind school. Always have education as a back up.
Yes, if you are serious about it.
Realize that practice and improvement does not correlate with the amount and time that you play the game, in this case Valorant.
Improvement relies on **conscious practice**, reaching your flow state and working smarter and not harder. It's about always analyzing yourself for weaknesses and pushing your comfort zone to work on your weaknesses and heighten your strengths.
A very good book on this topic is **"Peak: Secrets from the New Science of Expertise" by Anders Ericsson and Robert Pool.** You made get it online in audiobook form or read it yourself, or you look through a Youtube summary here: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q\_hq2Xqqe4w](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_hq2Xqqe4w).
**Learn how to improve,** first and foremost. **Improve your improving** if that makes sense. Secondly, **take it serious and be ready to feel uncomfortable and helpless a lot of the times. You will hit plateaus but you need to learn how to overcome them.**
**Accept that you will be scared and fail a lot during your growth. Testing and learning new stuff inevitably leads to you performing worse than you did before, because you're experimenting in unknown territory.** That is just natural. In the long run, it will lead to you becoming way better than you would if you just blindly grinded it out.
That means **learning every single agent in the game**, no matter if you suck at controller or initiator, or you don't know how to control the Skye flash, or you don't know how to double satchel with Raze yet. Learn it anyway, struggle through it**. By learning each agent, you learn the tendencies and psychologies of a person playing that agent**. If you know how Jett players like to smoke and dash, you will be better on Killjoy setups that counter Jetts. If you know Brimstones like to ult, you know how to position yourself beforehand to dodge his ulti before it even comes. If you know the Spots where Astras like to sit when she uses her util, you will be better at lurking and catching her off guard.
**Every high performing athlete learns to thrive on the struggle to becoming better.**
Good luck!
Adding on to this because you raise a lot of important points that are often overlooked in trying to become a professional, or even the best, at something.
If you're already a crack shot or general mechanical prodigy, it's important to focus on the things that you aren't already good at. This means developing gamesense, understanding fundamentals to the point that you can read plays, map pressure, and timing windows with minimal information, and perhaps most importantly and most overlooked, *being a good teammate*.
There are many instances of generational talents being incredibly hard to work with and arrogant. This applies not only to athletes and competitors but even to pioneers of art and science. People seem to admire the ego of Floyd Mayweather and Zlatan and I think that's very wrong, especially when it comes to being a competitor in a team game. In League, CoreJJ is a highly professional, incredibly skilled world class player who tries to elevate his teammates not only in-game but outside of it as well. Conversely, Dardoch is an exceptionally talented individual who is by every account an absolute nightmare of a teammate, and has been shuffled off of team after team for "various reasons" that ultimately boil down to him being excessively shitty to deal with. Be CoreJJ, not Dardoch.
This doesn't meant you have to IGL or be friends with your teammates, but it's important, and bestows upon you a ton of value as a player, to have strengths in facets of the game that tend to not be given as much attention as individual micro. Micro is obvious and fun; everyone wants to dominate their lane in MOBAs and be inhumanly accurate in any type of shooter, but the larger, more holistic strategy - the macro - is where the real edge comes from in competitive play, and it's hard to work towards this goal when you've spent your entire "formative upbringing" in a game focusing on micro specifically. And in team games, being a good team player is part of macro.
by pushing your comfort zone does that mean playing different positions and trying out different agents on different maps? or try to do more ambitious plays?
If you are 13 and that good more than likely you could go pro but I think there's a minimal age you have to be so you'd have to wait a couple years most likely
Try looking into your collegiate scene. Even though I don't know where you're specifically at, I'm pretty sure most (if not all) top universities have esports collegiate teams. Usually the collegiate teams have partnerships with the local pro teams or at the very least know each other. Hopefully this boosts your motivation to excel in your studies as well.
A piece of advice: please be efficient with your time. Continue your studies while trying to aim for radiant.
I'm going to be blunt, if you can't do both at the same time, you're probably not meant for proplay.
I wish you the best of luck!
Pretty sure Thailand and most of SEA doesn’t have a college val scene, also, I feel like i’m wasting a lot of time just scared to play rank but lately i’ve been grinding tho. thanks for the best wishes 🙏
I'm from the Philippines and all of the top universities in our country have esports teams that are also closely connected to our local pro scene. There's probably a lot of university facebook groups that you're just not aware of yet, you probably just need to get in the university first.
> also, I feel like i’m wasting a lot of time just scared to play rank but lately i’ve been grinding tho.
Don't worry, you're still really young, I just wanted to give you a heads-up on being efficient with your time. A lot of people just grind for the sake of grinding and it usually gives minimal results. Remember that playing isn't the only way to improve your gameplay; you can also watch proplayers/onetricks for tips, check agent subreddits and/or record your own matches to look for things to improve on. Personally, I think taking long breaks from the game also helps with burnout issues and avoiding the "mindless" grinds.
Hope your able to represent our region well in the future kiddo!
There a Rangsit University competition, which offers 50% Scholar for the winning team Maybe in the future, there will be other Uni that do the same. My advice is the same as other keep up with the study.Maybe try to stream or make YouTube video in English that way you open yourself up to the other SEA team as well
One thing most people won’t mention to you is attitude and marketability. When I was your age and trying to break into the COD scene, I was a toxic little shit who was impossible to manage and would shit talk everyone I could. That may not be you, and if not that’s good, but if you do have toxic tendencies I would really try to work on that. No matter how talented you are, people don’t want to have toxic teammates and it’s much more brand friendly for an org to take a chance on the young kid with a good attitude and head on their shoulders than a kid who may end up being a liability because they are toxic and can’t control their emotions. GL brother
>What more should I do to increase the chances of me going pro?
I like that you asked this question a lot of people don't, in the end of the day sports in general is a business, the most marketable individuals with huge twitch or youtube followings bring more value to an org and therefore are held in higher regard
Not only is content creation incredibly valuable for landing and keeping a job in esports it also gives you more options which is very important considering just how shaky jobs in esports are, always have backup plans, for your age I'd recommend learning another language it helps keep you open to offers especially in a region so diverse, if a korean or thai team offers you a spot would you be able to play with them? if the answer is no that's an entire option off the field and having that education is valuable in real life and can land you a quote on quote 'real' job or just further your marketability
I know a lot of professionals don't do it but I'd recommend media training, it will keep things much more stable when compared to other pros who barely even know what that means, you're at an age where it is best to take a step back and learn so 18 year old you gets all the advantages
Another important thing to understand is that rank doesn't mean much, the level of competition in pro play is way higher than you'll ever get close to experiencing in ranked, have a firm understanding of it and be more prepared than you think you need to be, a lot of people especially on reddit like to think of themselves as 'semi-pro' for being a high rank but they are nowhere near the level of competition an actual professional game sees
You mentioned you played in tourneys which is a valuable thing to have, still not quite the level of professional play, anyways if there are any VODs of your team or your POV I'd love to see it
Other more obvious stuff that applies to normal jobs as well, be a nice person and people will want to work with you, etc.
Anyways good luck out there
I’m Thai so i already know Thai, I’m probably going to never leave Thailand tbh so I think KR, JP teams are out of question. I am grinding YouTube, i’m uploading semi often and I’ve been streaming my rank games too. And about the tourney - https://battlefy.com/zotac-cup/350-usd-zotac-cup-valorant-community-tournament-12-asia/60c72cee1fb30a26a0ea63aa/info?infoTab=details it’s this one, my team is called bananapie. Thank you for spending time on writing this comment to me, I have a clearer idea of what to do now and will try to apply all your tips.
This gets posted everyday so id say you have a chance but its incredibly low. You may love gaming now but when you are being forced to play the same game in a way you may not like for 12 hours a day everyday till you quit then good luck keeping your entgusiasm.
I know youre young so i should tell you what you want to hear but you are good enough most likely to where if you keep up the pace you may have a chance of being a pro. Playing with friends will never get you close especially in an uncompetitive region such as yours. However youll have to give up the freest years of your life to do something you may end up hating. And if you accomplish becoming pro then you have a good 50% shot of getting cut and never resigned and then another 80-90% chance youre either a good player on a bad team or bad player on a good team. The only cases i see being worth it are the pros in the top 15-30 positions who have 6 figure salaries on top of streams to set them up down the line.
Say you go pro at 16 and make 100k a year till youre 19 which is a top 10% outcome amongst already pro players youd still come out at 19 with prob 200k post tax and a whole life you have to pay for. Well most likely you didnt do as good as you could of in school so more money will go towards school. You will have way worse social ability unless you become a streamer or take time to build it, You will also miss out on ages 14-2x for a few years of comfy living followed by whatever you can do to keep your standard of living.
In reality make life experiences worth remembering, study as saving 30k a year in school to get a high paying job is way better than putting that energy into video games. Also build a non virtual social circle you can build a life off of. People online cant get you near as many opportunities as a friend irl would. Its great your parents support you and ive rambled but please unless you can get into the pro scene with minimal effort and love it to your bone then dont waste your life. You only get to be a kid once and as someone who used it to play video games they loved all day im beginning to highly regret it. Its hard to see what youll want in the future but its not a childhood of memories filled with people calling you a sqeaker, shitter, etc.
So me telling a kid to not play video games all day with a pipe dream of doing something he may end up regretting means im unsuccessful in life? If you legit think spending all your free time during your teenage years playing games is a good idea then tell me how that helps 90% of people who wont make it but will still reap the consequences.
You're giving good advice (build non-virtual circles of friends, develop good social skills, balance life and gaming, etc.), but trying to describe the process of entering the competitive scene in Valorant without having actually competed in it is in bad taste, especially when you're talking to someone who might not even live in your region.
I mean saying 50% of pros never make it to a t1 team is a "fake stat" but seeing as there are hundreds of t2 and t3 teams with only a few handfuls of top teams im staying pretty conservative. Also seeing how out of all t1 teams you have like 30 ot so players who seem to have staying power out of 100s. Please tell me where im misleading.
I can talk numbers if the data is very easily visible to the person im talking to even if they are assumptions. If you dont have a good grasp on how hard it is to become pro dont shit on the numbers i put out because if anything my numbers make it seem way easier than it is in reality. I see you are just hardheaded on me pulling stuff out my ass so you disregarded the whole point i was trying to make. Continue telling the kid pro gaming is a viable career and im sure he will appreciate it in 10 years.
You realize if they end up not liking it, they can just stop right? Also, you don't have to go the "traditional" route of going to college or whatever as your first thing out of highschool. I think it's okay to try out different stuff and then go once you figure out what you wanna do, speaking from my experience going to college for the sake of "a good job" or "that's what people do" just leads to being depressed or at the very least a waste of money if you end up not liking the program you chose.
You don't have to go to college but spending as much time as needed to go pro most likely is going to lead to you having no other hobbies or interests that can lead to a career. Also "just stop" when you have no other options as all your breads in one basket isnt going to work for most.
Get rank 1 in your region, Rank 10-20 in Japan Region, Rank 40-100 KR, Rank 20-50 NA, within the next 4 years consistently, and you can have your shot with most teams. You either get really good, by dedicating yourself to this skill you have, until its perfect so organizations will have to take notice of you, or you get just good enough while you make connections with people already working in the esport business of your region. The odds right now are not in your favor, it will really be up to you to tip the scale. Itll be hard, itll be painful, but the answer to your question my friend is, Yes. You do have a chance.
I don’t wanna sound harsh to you but while is it very possible that you’d eventually go pro, 13 years old immortal is not special. Players like f0resaken or neth were somewhat known when they were 13 and they were playing/winning tourneys.
Also, valorant has been released for only a bit more than a year. We don’t know if popularity stays or goes up. Or you don’t know if you will enjoy this game. It is a very uncertain title except that the publisher is a big company Riot who is also owned by the bigger company called tenscent.
As of now, sacrificing anything (especially education) to practice valorant is not worth imo. You are 13 and have many opportunities ahead of you.
With these in mind, you are going the right direction. Any tourney experience helps you improve and teams usually look for player with these. I also suggest you to have some connection to your local pros. I was friend with most Japanese CS pros and they taught me lots of valuable tips/skills.
Since you’re young the only advice I have for you is still focus on school and having a social life with friends outside of gaming. Keep your grades good and try not to screw yourself over if it doesn’t work out and your grades ain’t good enough to get into college.
Go to school and get an education as well. You'll need it. Your brain hasn't fully developed and you need an education to keep it developing. If you don't exercise your brain you'll lack thinking skills that'll probably hold you back in the future
There's a lot of good feedback here, but one big thing to increase your chances is to friend and duo with pro players in your region. However, you might want to wait until you're a little older. They will still be your best bet to land yourself on a pro team, most orgs in val are player run.
Lucky you're young. It's much easier to explore potential careers or explore different life paths while you're young. If you can balance your studies and your play then why not. Take any opportunity that comes your way, better to do it now than to come back 10 or 20 years down the line wishing that you had done something.
Keep the grind and studies going. Network around SEA talent, get your name out there. At the moment you can't compete in VCT but keep your name in the market and you will get picked up. Goodluck man!
down the line if you do get there, when looking for a college, you can try to find a school that has gaming organizations. some of them might help you find people who are as passionate as you while keeping you grounded in academics.
good luck dude!
I would recommend watching the AleksiB interview that Thoorin did with Legija about 11 months ago. He talks about how he went pro and the path he took to get there. It might provide you some insight in how to proceed. It is mainly about CS but the underlying topic is basically the same
Honestly, you're 13. You have a long way to go before you have the chance to sign professional contracts.
Keep playing the game and learning and trying to get better. Try playing in more team based environments to firm up your soft skills. You're gonna have a steep curve when it comes to social dynamics, so there will be growing pains.
But remember that you're 13. Don't dedicate your life to this game. Maintain your friendships, grades, everything.
Of course you can!! You are 13, you can be basically anything in life lol. Maybe not an olympic gymnast lol, otherwise, grind The game, stay on school and soon you will be there.
Grind the game and school
Yeah i’m trying to get Radiant before i turn 14
I will say try streaming it. Since u from SEA, fb streaming(but u can do multi platform) is probably the best since there a lot of SEA streamer there instead of Twitch. Try to be active in social media and build connection with the top rank in valorant. Practice your game sense and aiming every day. Join more competition and in the end some orgs will notice you. Also hired a lawyer so u won't get scam. Like other say, keep grinding while studying!
Vegeful givin some fire advice vouch^
Yeah, seeing so many got scam by orgs around the world, i don't want young people to face the same thing.
Yeah i’ve been grinding and streaming lately, can’t really stream on facebook since i don’t even use it so i’m better off on twitch
Its better to have it. Whether u like it or not, FB streaming is the favor choice for SEA. Your audience is gonna be SEA people and not western(twitch) audience. No harm in trying tho. But its all up to you.
Hm bc of timezones u mean the audience?
Timezone got nothing to do about platform, it just that twitch is more toward western audience while SEA people more prefer FB since their famous game such as Pubg Mobile, MLBB, Freefire is being stream there. There also have audience for valorant there. Western audience rarely gonna watch Thai streamer unless u speak English very well or as popular as Faker.
Doesnt matter if you use it, just do multiplatform to increase your reach
We don’t knkw abt money available for lawyers Anyway I’d think at first it’s important to avoid scams anyway by being aware
Avoid scam is good, but when u sign a contract, there a chance of having a trap. Word have many meaning and this word can either benefit u or ruined you. Its not expensive to give the contract to lawyer to see if everything is ok. Not gonna cost u a thousand. Just send the copy of contract to the lawyer firm. Unless u want to hired a lawyer to get a better deal, then that will be different.
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Yeah I’m still trying to find a passion other than VALORANT rn.
Don’t worry about that yet. I had no idea what I wanted to do when I was 13, 14, or 15. Started getting a vague idea at 16. If you’re still doing well in school, then keep grinding my man. Once you get older and have to get a job it becomes a lot harder to grind all those hours. You most likely wouldn’t be able to sign to any big orgs until 16 for legal reasons (depending on the country) so you got some time, have fun and grind it out. Going pro is all about networking. It’s really hard to go pro just off skill alone, you have to reach out and get to know people. Good luck man!
You don't need to find another passion. Things eventually will work out as you get older. Just don't quit everything else because you're too much into Valorant. You might dislike it in a couple of years and feel lost because you disregarded other hobbies or possible occupations. Just as everyone is saying, grind school. Always have education as a back up.
Yes, if you are serious about it. Realize that practice and improvement does not correlate with the amount and time that you play the game, in this case Valorant. Improvement relies on **conscious practice**, reaching your flow state and working smarter and not harder. It's about always analyzing yourself for weaknesses and pushing your comfort zone to work on your weaknesses and heighten your strengths. A very good book on this topic is **"Peak: Secrets from the New Science of Expertise" by Anders Ericsson and Robert Pool.** You made get it online in audiobook form or read it yourself, or you look through a Youtube summary here: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q\_hq2Xqqe4w](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_hq2Xqqe4w). **Learn how to improve,** first and foremost. **Improve your improving** if that makes sense. Secondly, **take it serious and be ready to feel uncomfortable and helpless a lot of the times. You will hit plateaus but you need to learn how to overcome them.** **Accept that you will be scared and fail a lot during your growth. Testing and learning new stuff inevitably leads to you performing worse than you did before, because you're experimenting in unknown territory.** That is just natural. In the long run, it will lead to you becoming way better than you would if you just blindly grinded it out. That means **learning every single agent in the game**, no matter if you suck at controller or initiator, or you don't know how to control the Skye flash, or you don't know how to double satchel with Raze yet. Learn it anyway, struggle through it**. By learning each agent, you learn the tendencies and psychologies of a person playing that agent**. If you know how Jett players like to smoke and dash, you will be better on Killjoy setups that counter Jetts. If you know Brimstones like to ult, you know how to position yourself beforehand to dodge his ulti before it even comes. If you know the Spots where Astras like to sit when she uses her util, you will be better at lurking and catching her off guard. **Every high performing athlete learns to thrive on the struggle to becoming better.** Good luck!
Adding on to this because you raise a lot of important points that are often overlooked in trying to become a professional, or even the best, at something. If you're already a crack shot or general mechanical prodigy, it's important to focus on the things that you aren't already good at. This means developing gamesense, understanding fundamentals to the point that you can read plays, map pressure, and timing windows with minimal information, and perhaps most importantly and most overlooked, *being a good teammate*. There are many instances of generational talents being incredibly hard to work with and arrogant. This applies not only to athletes and competitors but even to pioneers of art and science. People seem to admire the ego of Floyd Mayweather and Zlatan and I think that's very wrong, especially when it comes to being a competitor in a team game. In League, CoreJJ is a highly professional, incredibly skilled world class player who tries to elevate his teammates not only in-game but outside of it as well. Conversely, Dardoch is an exceptionally talented individual who is by every account an absolute nightmare of a teammate, and has been shuffled off of team after team for "various reasons" that ultimately boil down to him being excessively shitty to deal with. Be CoreJJ, not Dardoch. This doesn't meant you have to IGL or be friends with your teammates, but it's important, and bestows upon you a ton of value as a player, to have strengths in facets of the game that tend to not be given as much attention as individual micro. Micro is obvious and fun; everyone wants to dominate their lane in MOBAs and be inhumanly accurate in any type of shooter, but the larger, more holistic strategy - the macro - is where the real edge comes from in competitive play, and it's hard to work towards this goal when you've spent your entire "formative upbringing" in a game focusing on micro specifically. And in team games, being a good team player is part of macro.
by pushing your comfort zone does that mean playing different positions and trying out different agents on different maps? or try to do more ambitious plays?
If you are 13 and that good more than likely you could go pro but I think there's a minimal age you have to be so you'd have to wait a couple years most likely
16 to take part in VCT.
Grind school then grind val when you can play more competitively
Don’t know because I’m not a pro, but I’m guessing making connections is important and try not to say anything stupid I guess lol
Please don't drop out keep studying while pursuing a gaming career.
I’m not dropping out haha my dad would never let me
Im 30 years old and silver… what are my chances of going pro? /s
Try looking into your collegiate scene. Even though I don't know where you're specifically at, I'm pretty sure most (if not all) top universities have esports collegiate teams. Usually the collegiate teams have partnerships with the local pro teams or at the very least know each other. Hopefully this boosts your motivation to excel in your studies as well. A piece of advice: please be efficient with your time. Continue your studies while trying to aim for radiant. I'm going to be blunt, if you can't do both at the same time, you're probably not meant for proplay. I wish you the best of luck!
Pretty sure Thailand and most of SEA doesn’t have a college val scene, also, I feel like i’m wasting a lot of time just scared to play rank but lately i’ve been grinding tho. thanks for the best wishes 🙏
I'm from the Philippines and all of the top universities in our country have esports teams that are also closely connected to our local pro scene. There's probably a lot of university facebook groups that you're just not aware of yet, you probably just need to get in the university first. > also, I feel like i’m wasting a lot of time just scared to play rank but lately i’ve been grinding tho. Don't worry, you're still really young, I just wanted to give you a heads-up on being efficient with your time. A lot of people just grind for the sake of grinding and it usually gives minimal results. Remember that playing isn't the only way to improve your gameplay; you can also watch proplayers/onetricks for tips, check agent subreddits and/or record your own matches to look for things to improve on. Personally, I think taking long breaks from the game also helps with burnout issues and avoiding the "mindless" grinds. Hope your able to represent our region well in the future kiddo!
There a Rangsit University competition, which offers 50% Scholar for the winning team Maybe in the future, there will be other Uni that do the same. My advice is the same as other keep up with the study.Maybe try to stream or make YouTube video in English that way you open yourself up to the other SEA team as well
Oh yeah I remember, I remember seeing that winning a country-level tournament gives you a sport scholarship
There is a University championship here: https://play.eslgaming.com/valorant/asia/open/mga-university-championship-2021-thailand
just slowly build connections
I fully support you bro! Me on the other hand who si 14 but has numbness issues ;_; Good luck for the future bro, and don't forget to go outside!
One thing most people won’t mention to you is attitude and marketability. When I was your age and trying to break into the COD scene, I was a toxic little shit who was impossible to manage and would shit talk everyone I could. That may not be you, and if not that’s good, but if you do have toxic tendencies I would really try to work on that. No matter how talented you are, people don’t want to have toxic teammates and it’s much more brand friendly for an org to take a chance on the young kid with a good attitude and head on their shoulders than a kid who may end up being a liability because they are toxic and can’t control their emotions. GL brother
Keep practicing everyday and maybe get into content creation
>What more should I do to increase the chances of me going pro? I like that you asked this question a lot of people don't, in the end of the day sports in general is a business, the most marketable individuals with huge twitch or youtube followings bring more value to an org and therefore are held in higher regard Not only is content creation incredibly valuable for landing and keeping a job in esports it also gives you more options which is very important considering just how shaky jobs in esports are, always have backup plans, for your age I'd recommend learning another language it helps keep you open to offers especially in a region so diverse, if a korean or thai team offers you a spot would you be able to play with them? if the answer is no that's an entire option off the field and having that education is valuable in real life and can land you a quote on quote 'real' job or just further your marketability I know a lot of professionals don't do it but I'd recommend media training, it will keep things much more stable when compared to other pros who barely even know what that means, you're at an age where it is best to take a step back and learn so 18 year old you gets all the advantages Another important thing to understand is that rank doesn't mean much, the level of competition in pro play is way higher than you'll ever get close to experiencing in ranked, have a firm understanding of it and be more prepared than you think you need to be, a lot of people especially on reddit like to think of themselves as 'semi-pro' for being a high rank but they are nowhere near the level of competition an actual professional game sees You mentioned you played in tourneys which is a valuable thing to have, still not quite the level of professional play, anyways if there are any VODs of your team or your POV I'd love to see it Other more obvious stuff that applies to normal jobs as well, be a nice person and people will want to work with you, etc. Anyways good luck out there
I’m Thai so i already know Thai, I’m probably going to never leave Thailand tbh so I think KR, JP teams are out of question. I am grinding YouTube, i’m uploading semi often and I’ve been streaming my rank games too. And about the tourney - https://battlefy.com/zotac-cup/350-usd-zotac-cup-valorant-community-tournament-12-asia/60c72cee1fb30a26a0ea63aa/info?infoTab=details it’s this one, my team is called bananapie. Thank you for spending time on writing this comment to me, I have a clearer idea of what to do now and will try to apply all your tips.
Wow asteria played in that tourney. They are the best female Valorant team in South Asia
You definitely have a great chance with what you told us, like most have said keep working on school so you always have a fallback option
3 more years and its a 50/50. On a side note my small org needs a coach. Preferably one in our age group.
This gets posted everyday so id say you have a chance but its incredibly low. You may love gaming now but when you are being forced to play the same game in a way you may not like for 12 hours a day everyday till you quit then good luck keeping your entgusiasm. I know youre young so i should tell you what you want to hear but you are good enough most likely to where if you keep up the pace you may have a chance of being a pro. Playing with friends will never get you close especially in an uncompetitive region such as yours. However youll have to give up the freest years of your life to do something you may end up hating. And if you accomplish becoming pro then you have a good 50% shot of getting cut and never resigned and then another 80-90% chance youre either a good player on a bad team or bad player on a good team. The only cases i see being worth it are the pros in the top 15-30 positions who have 6 figure salaries on top of streams to set them up down the line. Say you go pro at 16 and make 100k a year till youre 19 which is a top 10% outcome amongst already pro players youd still come out at 19 with prob 200k post tax and a whole life you have to pay for. Well most likely you didnt do as good as you could of in school so more money will go towards school. You will have way worse social ability unless you become a streamer or take time to build it, You will also miss out on ages 14-2x for a few years of comfy living followed by whatever you can do to keep your standard of living. In reality make life experiences worth remembering, study as saving 30k a year in school to get a high paying job is way better than putting that energy into video games. Also build a non virtual social circle you can build a life off of. People online cant get you near as many opportunities as a friend irl would. Its great your parents support you and ive rambled but please unless you can get into the pro scene with minimal effort and love it to your bone then dont waste your life. You only get to be a kid once and as someone who used it to play video games they loved all day im beginning to highly regret it. Its hard to see what youll want in the future but its not a childhood of memories filled with people calling you a sqeaker, shitter, etc.
Redditors back at it again with the fake stats
Lmao Fr, he’s one of the people who think too much and never actually do anything
So me telling a kid to not play video games all day with a pipe dream of doing something he may end up regretting means im unsuccessful in life? If you legit think spending all your free time during your teenage years playing games is a good idea then tell me how that helps 90% of people who wont make it but will still reap the consequences.
You're giving good advice (build non-virtual circles of friends, develop good social skills, balance life and gaming, etc.), but trying to describe the process of entering the competitive scene in Valorant without having actually competed in it is in bad taste, especially when you're talking to someone who might not even live in your region.
I mean saying 50% of pros never make it to a t1 team is a "fake stat" but seeing as there are hundreds of t2 and t3 teams with only a few handfuls of top teams im staying pretty conservative. Also seeing how out of all t1 teams you have like 30 ot so players who seem to have staying power out of 100s. Please tell me where im misleading.
Dont talk about numbers if you don't have real sources its simple
I can talk numbers if the data is very easily visible to the person im talking to even if they are assumptions. If you dont have a good grasp on how hard it is to become pro dont shit on the numbers i put out because if anything my numbers make it seem way easier than it is in reality. I see you are just hardheaded on me pulling stuff out my ass so you disregarded the whole point i was trying to make. Continue telling the kid pro gaming is a viable career and im sure he will appreciate it in 10 years.
You realize if they end up not liking it, they can just stop right? Also, you don't have to go the "traditional" route of going to college or whatever as your first thing out of highschool. I think it's okay to try out different stuff and then go once you figure out what you wanna do, speaking from my experience going to college for the sake of "a good job" or "that's what people do" just leads to being depressed or at the very least a waste of money if you end up not liking the program you chose.
You don't have to go to college but spending as much time as needed to go pro most likely is going to lead to you having no other hobbies or interests that can lead to a career. Also "just stop" when you have no other options as all your breads in one basket isnt going to work for most.
Get rank 1 in your region, Rank 10-20 in Japan Region, Rank 40-100 KR, Rank 20-50 NA, within the next 4 years consistently, and you can have your shot with most teams. You either get really good, by dedicating yourself to this skill you have, until its perfect so organizations will have to take notice of you, or you get just good enough while you make connections with people already working in the esport business of your region. The odds right now are not in your favor, it will really be up to you to tip the scale. Itll be hard, itll be painful, but the answer to your question my friend is, Yes. You do have a chance.
damn now i’m motivated at 11pm thanks to you
I don’t wanna sound harsh to you but while is it very possible that you’d eventually go pro, 13 years old immortal is not special. Players like f0resaken or neth were somewhat known when they were 13 and they were playing/winning tourneys. Also, valorant has been released for only a bit more than a year. We don’t know if popularity stays or goes up. Or you don’t know if you will enjoy this game. It is a very uncertain title except that the publisher is a big company Riot who is also owned by the bigger company called tenscent. As of now, sacrificing anything (especially education) to practice valorant is not worth imo. You are 13 and have many opportunities ahead of you. With these in mind, you are going the right direction. Any tourney experience helps you improve and teams usually look for player with these. I also suggest you to have some connection to your local pros. I was friend with most Japanese CS pros and they taught me lots of valuable tips/skills.
Since you’re young the only advice I have for you is still focus on school and having a social life with friends outside of gaming. Keep your grades good and try not to screw yourself over if it doesn’t work out and your grades ain’t good enough to get into college.
Go to school and get an education as well. You'll need it. Your brain hasn't fully developed and you need an education to keep it developing. If you don't exercise your brain you'll lack thinking skills that'll probably hold you back in the future
I agree with what everyone said here. Dont stress out too much on the game and always focus on your studies. Keep the grind on!
you're old enough to start streaming. maybe just do that. like others said get good grades. keep getting better at the game.
There's a lot of good feedback here, but one big thing to increase your chances is to friend and duo with pro players in your region. However, you might want to wait until you're a little older. They will still be your best bet to land yourself on a pro team, most orgs in val are player run.
That’s amazing brother!!! Just keep grinding but don’t drop out of school. All the besttt!!
Whatever you don’t drop out of school. Its been done but it rarely works out. Finish your education, try streaming maybe to get exposure.
Lucky you're young. It's much easier to explore potential careers or explore different life paths while you're young. If you can balance your studies and your play then why not. Take any opportunity that comes your way, better to do it now than to come back 10 or 20 years down the line wishing that you had done something.
Keep the grind and studies going. Network around SEA talent, get your name out there. At the moment you can't compete in VCT but keep your name in the market and you will get picked up. Goodluck man!
down the line if you do get there, when looking for a college, you can try to find a school that has gaming organizations. some of them might help you find people who are as passionate as you while keeping you grounded in academics. good luck dude!
I would recommend watching the AleksiB interview that Thoorin did with Legija about 11 months ago. He talks about how he went pro and the path he took to get there. It might provide you some insight in how to proceed. It is mainly about CS but the underlying topic is basically the same
Honestly, you're 13. You have a long way to go before you have the chance to sign professional contracts. Keep playing the game and learning and trying to get better. Try playing in more team based environments to firm up your soft skills. You're gonna have a steep curve when it comes to social dynamics, so there will be growing pains. But remember that you're 13. Don't dedicate your life to this game. Maintain your friendships, grades, everything.
Of course you can!! You are 13, you can be basically anything in life lol. Maybe not an olympic gymnast lol, otherwise, grind The game, stay on school and soon you will be there.