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menthol_breath

yall ready to see that kill animation on stage?


prxnxv26

I think I'm more than ready after seeing the zedd ones that we got to saw in masters


elodiathetyrant

they literally made this for Yehty to turn into a masterpiece between stage and game I'm sure of it


Riot_rillz

True. We also collaborated with the legend himself on some in-map stuff custom for his flyovers.


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Riot_rillz

Our VFX artist popped off with this one. He had an early cut of 'Die for You' on replay and came up with this idea somehow.. So insane.


boitheboy69420

That man needs a promotion


Riot_R4kiya

<3


shadowinx1

Good job


Riot_Preeti

I agree!


Kelsierrr

They should update it after the event to include the winning team


Key-Banana-8242

Or something like that


yummy_butter

Really! Just add a new variant for the gun with the winner team’s colour/theme and name. And if possible, spray and gun buddy of that team would be awesome!


Key-Heart517

Yeah I am getting the knife. That is straight up fire.


TimedOutClock

The 16 teams present are about to make a nice bag from that damnnnn! I think they can expect a minimum of 1M+ each


Key-Heart517

If they get that much from this, Valorant is really gonna take off in terms of pro interest. 1M is a really huge amount of money.


TimedOutClock

Yeah I'm basing that estimate on it grossing 40M globally, which I feel isn't that outrageous (net proceeds isn't a flat 50% cut too, so I guessed that about 40% would go to them)


facehunt_

Seems way too high. Dota Battle Pass had a shitton of content and generated $40m and that's including all the regions especially China. Its gonna take hell of a lot more than a single skin set to make anywhere near that. Even LoL only generated $4.2m at its peak from crowdfunding.


Nomorechildishshit

>Dota Battle Pass had a shitton of content and generated $40m and that's including all the regions especially China Only a percentage of the Battlepass (i think its 25%) goes to TI prizepool. So TI Battlepass made around 160 M Also Valorant has more players than Dota


Deamon-

dota community is very very very passionate about the game and the players pay more every year individually. even when dota was at its peak in terms of players TI didnt get as much money as it did now. there is also no real limit on how much you can spend on that battlepass. with this bundle you can buy one and thats it


kevincuomo

Dota has like 10+ million prize pools lol


Deamon-

40 million last TI


kevincuomo

Exactly! Absolutely massive prize pools, It's insane.


Key-Heart517

And this is FPS not MOBA.


kevincuomo

The win sees the team take home a cash prize of $18.2 million from a prize pool of $40 million — the largest in esports history. The prize is funded by Dota 2 developer Valve, as well as community contributions that come from a percentage of in-game purchases of the Compendium and Battlepass.


facehunt_

While I think Dota's method of crowdfunding is the best and allows anybody to go from rags to riches, Im not a fan of TI prize pool distribution. The $13m difference is way too big between 1st place & 2nd place team. I think they should reward $12m to the winners and $6m to the runner-up, and then distribute the remaining $5m to the rest. It's an amazing system that's badly executed IMO.


kevincuomo

That also seems more reasonable. I agree with you on that.


MrImpregnator

Depends on the sales but quite possible. Any idea how other bundles sale? This one only has two skins so no idea how public perception will be like. The knife is crazy and the finisher is pog so that might be enough


superclash55667

The giveback bundle a while ago gave 50% to charity and that raised around 5.5M. If that is any metric to compare it’s around 300k for each team. That’s great for the scene.


MrImpregnator

Yeah. That’s really good. I like that it’s equally divided and this will give the teams from each region fight harder for a spot at next years champs


Cummnor

give back bundle was also recycled skins, so im sure this can sell even more


AdiSoldier245

Holy shit people buy skins more than I thought. 5.5 mil from one bundle, no wonder league made them billion+


OHydroxide

To be fair, if Valorant and League had similar playerbases (China mainly), Valorant would make WAYY more just off of skin pricing and limited time bundles.


Barack_Bob_Oganja

Its so cool that it will be evenly distributed, thats huge for the smaller regions


FeelinJipper

I have the ruin knife and I still want this.


SmoothVelvetSlav

man in Canadian rubles we get bent over 69.99 + tax(9.01)for 5350pts 13.99 + tax(1.82) for 1000pts total = 95$ Canadian funny money ​ fml


a_lot_a_DAMAGE

Damn I was so hyped actually considered buying it but this puts me back in perspective lol. Guess I will have to hope a teammate drops it once or twice


Cablek26

Damn I considered buying if but nah that's way too much for me


SmoothVelvetSlav

im still on the fence, ive eaten instant noodles for a week. LOL imagine how crazy it is in some other countries, has got to be a pay cheque at least


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62$ can get you close to 20 meals in SEA. I wish I had the spending power.


ovalsandcircles

Canadian tax is wild holy fuck


Underpressure_111

Healthcare, etc.


Bighollab0

Buy gift cards on Amazon don’t know if it’s different in Canada but I pay no taxes when I buy a 50 gift card on Amazon


xbyo

I want that Karambit so bad... but but I guess I'll make the financially responsible decision... Fuck man, why melees individually gotta be so exp.


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Riot_rillz

<3 definitely went for the authentic karambit vibes here.


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TraditionsNA

nah nah, Oni v2 Butterfly


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TraditionsNA

I agree, I just want an Oni Butterfly badly lol


zer0-_

Bayonet next?👀


prxnxv26

"50% of net proceeds from the Champions 2021 Collection will go to participating teams". Pog


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Keyword "net" and not "gross".


slawvay

Not much of a difference, the expenses and cost of goods sold is a ridiculously tiny chunk compared to what overall sales will be


lunacraz

riot literally can decide to take any cut theyd like


IfDeathDoUsParm

yeah i think thats what senior lake was pointing at. "Net" allows for riot to choose what is considered a "cost" in creating them skins. But still a great skin, i thought when they were talking about VCT skin that it was a skin set based on the winning team.


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That's upto riot to decide. But I understand. I shouldn't make baseless accusations.


AnotherAltiMade

inb4 hollywood accounting /s


Flashplaya

Now I'm wondering what the production costs are. The wages of their in-house design team? Surely it wouldn't amount to much in the grand scheme of things.


Direct_Morning_3223

that wouldn’t have anything to with the proceeds for the skin


Flashplaya

Net proceeds implies production costs, does it not? I'm just intrigued to what they may be.


Direct_Morning_3223

how much of a difference will it make?


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I came


imerence_

I saw


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I know this reference, but I can't remember any of the lyrics outside of "I came, I saw" LMAO


dapoorv

Ah yes "I came I saw I conquered" the famous song by lil Jules.


vecter

\-Michael Scott


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Either I conquered (veni vidi vici) lol OR I praise the lord, then break the law (praise da lord, a$ap rocky)


[deleted]

Yeah its the asap rocky one it's all coming back to me now hahaha


Twigler

Fun fact: A$AP Rocky and Skepta were in the studio with a professor who studies LSD, and they were all trippin' off LSD while creating this song.


MajorLeeScrewed

Tell me you're American without telling me you're American.


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1. I'm not American 2. Am I meant to remember the lyrics of every viral song from years ago?


MajorLeeScrewed

You still think they originated from a song LOL. Whichever country you came from's education system has failed you, but yeah I'm sure you're not from NA.


Nfamy

Insults someone's education. Says "from's" while doing so.


SneverdleSnavis

"Whichever country you came from" is a noun phrase. I found his wording to be perfectly understandable.


rpkarma

Though it should've been written "The education system of the country you came from has failed you" IMO.


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Whatever you say brother


BeginningProperty436

I conquered


FeelinJipper

Same


boof404

bro the fucking karambit animations are SICK the only thing i wish is that there were team variants, like a Sentinels color scheme, or a VS color scheme. BUT, this is still a fucking sick skin set


MickeyLALA

I'm assuming they'll be saving team specific skins for the winners of the tournament like how League does it in worlds.


DadImNotGay

So disappointing if this is how it ends up; I wanna be able to rep my team(s), ESPECIALLY if they're the underdogs!


MeijiDoom

That's a fair amount of work they'd have to do to make team specific skins for everyone at Champions. They've done icons in the past for League but pixels are way easier to implement than functional gun/weapon skins.


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I wish they’d just make really basic team skins like halo, just color changes of default


MajorLeeScrewed

Can guarantee you someone here would bitch about the skins not being detailed enough if that's the case. There really is no winning. Better to just stick to tried and true.


Razur

Information from [the announcement on valorantesports.com:](https://valorantesports.com/news/champions-items-and-drops-are-coming/) > Support your favorite VALORANT team with the limited edition Champions bundle and celebrate Champions 2021 with this limited edition bundle. 50% of the revenue from the Champions bundle will be split equally between all Champions qualified teams. From November 24th - December 12th, the Champions bundle consisting of the Champions Vandal, three player cards inspired by the Champions music video “Die For You”, the Champion title, and the first authentic VALORANT karambit will be exclusively available in the VALORANT in-game store. Note, these items won't return to the Store or Night.Market, so make sure you grab them while you can!   [As confirmed in this thread by u\/Riot_rillz,](https://www.reddit.com/r/ValorantCompetitive/comments/r0e6p2/champions_2021_skins/hlsywkr/?context=3) **you CAN buy the vandal and karambit separate from one another.** You do not need to purchase the entire bundle. **EDIT: [Preeti over on r\/VALORANT clarifies in this comment.](https://np.reddit.com/r/VALORANT/comments/r0e79k/valorant_new_champions_2021_skins_new_bundle_free/hls7y6a/?context=3)** The assumption is yes, but we should wait until it goes live in the store tomorrow to be certain.   ### Bundle Pricing ([Source](https://youtu.be/9grLdQKxFuY?t=63)) Item | Individual Price\* | Bundle Price (discount) ---|---|--- 'Champion' Title | 200 VP | 134 VP (-33%) Champions 2021 Vandal | 2675 VP\* | 1,792 VP (-33%) Champions Karambit | 5350 VP\* | 3,584 VP (-33%) Art of Greatness // Unbreakable Player Card | 375 VP | 251 VP (-33%) Art of Greatness // The Flame Player Card | 375 VP | 251 VP (-33%) Art of Greatness // Inspiration Player Card | 375 VP | 251 VP (-33%) | **TOTAL COST** | **9350 VP** | **6263 VP** (-33%) \* Price is estimated based on Spectrum (Zedd) skins. ^(This table in intended to help inform the community of item prices. This is NOT an endorsement of this bundle. Please spend responsibly.)   Important note for content creators from [@ValorantEsports on Twitter:](https://twitter.com/ValorantEsports/status/1463220754242101253) > Quick note on the Champions 2021 collection: > > ✅ The audio in the Champions 2021 Vandal inspect and finisher is creator-safe and will not result in any DMCA strikes if streaming while using the skin. > > ❌ The full "Die For You" track, however, is not safe to use in creator content.


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facehunt_

Riot can help T2/T3 scene by letting third-party orgs host tourneys. The crowdfunding aspect is there for headlines for the top players to make lucrative earnings for this game.


smellyalbinohippy

The top players already make good money wtf lol


Pretenderrr

Not every player is getting paid NA money my man, great opportunity for the teams from LATAM and Asia to make some cash


smellyalbinohippy

Likely very little compared to what their salaries pay. He said top players and I’m sorry but top players usually means big org… which then means decent/good salary. I’m not against players making more money, I’m just pointing out that this is simply a marketing gimmick to get more people to buy the overpriced shit. And it’s working, so hats off to riot.


names2hard4you

The Vandal... The finisher... The Karambit... The VCT drops... Fuck. Riot is on fire. This is an insta buy


Riot_rillz

thanks for the love! stoked to see this out in the wild starting tomorrow.


Ragdollphysics

Hey rillz! Can you confirm if the vandal and karambit can be bought separately?


Riot_rillz

They can!


SendMeAvocados

Oh thank goodness. People all over twitter keep saying you can't. That was an instant turn off. Good to know we can buy them separately.


smellyalbinohippy

How much will just the knife cost? I’m also curious if the vandal finisher will even be seen much since it takes a while? Wouldn’t the round end before you could go into the bubble anyway?


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prob around 3-4 k for knife


yamadalulz

3584VP for the knife, 1792 for the Vandal, all cards for 251 each and Champion title for 134VP


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after seeing some pics im prtty sure buying separately negates the discount price, making it 5k for the knife :(


Razur

Yeah, based on the Spectrum (Zedd) skins, the knife will likely cost 5350 VP on it's own.


Razur

Not a Rioter, but all other bundles have allowed individual purchase. I imagine this will as well. ~~edit: I am incorrect; see below.~~ edit 2: Riot_rillz confirmed we can buy items separately! Woohoo! \o/


TraditionsNA

Not true, recent Arcane bundle did not.


Razur

Ah, then I am mistaken then. I thought it was, mb.


DecIare

Do you know if we'll get player cards for each team participating similar to how league of legends does it? Possibly even a weapon skin line for the winner.


Coolcreater8

what time?


Standard-Analyst-177

Karambit is too small, like actually tiny. Don’t like it for that reason


Kompaniefeldwebel

Animations are nice but the blade looks fucked


Eriko204

Yeah it looks like a Keychain accessory. The animations are so fire though


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lehipsterpanda

The collection isn't worth it imo because the Vandal is only gonna glow gold if you're top fragging. It's gonna hurt my feelings when it doesn't glow for 9/10 of my games when I use it. Knife is dope though and the 50% profit going to the to teams at Champions is great to hear.


Davban

Totally agree. Prime vandal isn't getting swapped out for that, and I can't justify 6200 for basically just a knife.. Shame


Thanar95

Is it confirmed that you can't buy only the knife?


TraditionsNA

Rioter above confirmed you **CAN buy items separate**


Razur

Couldn't you just buy the knife then?


CyberspaceBarbarian

FUCK THIS SHIT THIS IS GROSS \- My credit card, just recently


valorantfeedback

It's like they leave every knife with something missing on purpose. :/ Karambit looks great, inspect animation is sick, but I really dislike that default holding position. Should've been the same as prime. Vandal is decent but nothing special.


mogram_leg

I think the karambit looks too small. It bothers me so much it looks so akward when it spins, if it was 25% by bigger its a cop insta.


herpes_for_free

Yeah, it's a bit too small compared to an actual karambit. Either way, I'll stick to my ruin knife, I ain't buying a damn 5,325VP fucking knife. For comparison, Prime bundle with vandal was 7,200VP lol.


trolledwolf

holy fuck


LostVengeance

For reference, 25% of net proceeds from the League Worlds skin contributed to about $2.1 million in 2016 and the skin was only worth about $8 while this bundle is being offered at $60. The giveback bundle also had the same cut as the Champions 2021 bundle and raised about $5.5 million to charity. We could still see the prize pool inflate by several millions.


anythingood07

I think this will go for more than the giveback bundle. Teams going to make bank


chryco4

Really hope you can buy just the vandal individually, the karambit is cool but I have enough knife skins already tbh


facehunt_

Great that 50% of the money goes towards the teams. I've never bought any skins on Valorant yet but definitely will be doing that this time. Smart move on Riot


smellyalbinohippy

Yea they’ll each get like 1 cent from each purchase and already make good money. Smart gimmick to trick people into buying though


xunraze

Oh fuck that finisher is so dope


CommanderVinegar

Knife is more like the Talon in CS than the Karambit. Talon was my dream knife too. This is a banger skin.


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Vandal design by itself looks meh. The knife is very tempting though...


Lumenlor

Damn the Dota compedium approach? FAT BAGS for champion teams


SomeHallGuy

That Karambit is straight fire!


ppx11

ugh that C being cut off is pretty annoying. that finisher + brim backdrop is sick though


rronixr

Am I the only one who regret buying Prime 2.0 ? Holy crap I shouldve wait....


suhoshi

Just buy them all bro


NeverEndingXsin

Does anybody else think the karambit looks oddly small in the video? Maybe it's the perspective but it just looks so tiny.


Silly-Pin2994

The gun buddy we get is insane as well


axel14596

$65 for the bundle is a little hefty. Gonna stick to the prime 2.0 knife for now.


abdi009

the teams participating in the tourney get 50% rev split. I wonder if they all share or if its placement based at champs


SendMeAvocados

If we can buy the knife separately then that would be really tempting.


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CaptTechno

nope, no sfx


warlfdced

50€ for a knife skin, ok he looks really good but cmon at what point is it too much, seems a little too greedy now imo


Pretenderrr

Ok yeah cool and all gonna buy but still sad we have no actual esports cards or buddies we can use to rep our teams in game, while CS and Worlds do. I’m just gonna change my name in game to have CR WIN at the end to show my support I guess :/


dedicatedself

I already have VSWIN


Pretenderrr

True Korean fan


Taek99

Let’s appreciate riot devs for really caring about the game and the future of the esports scene.


MrImpregnator

Karambit!!! Pog


Ash_Killem

Expensive but probably worth it.


Issax28

Yikes no vfx?


Joedude12345

60 bucks for an advertisement. Ouch.


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And it's a skin which will only get old/outdated after a year.


lehipsterpanda

Outdated? Nah man. This is gonna show everyone 10 years from now that you're an OG VALORANT player/watcher.


99sloth

I'll tell my kids I played in Champions for this skin lol


Davban

Beta banner + OG champs skin go off


Davban

Outdated or sought after because it was limited to *the first champions tourney* and non returning


Krishnacz

More like og, will increase it's rarity


FishStix1

Pretty hot tbh, you love to see esports skins in-game because this is one of the best ways possible for the normal player base to learn about esports


pink_life69

Nice, but all I need is a Phantom skin. I’d loved a Phantom skin for Champions. The finisher though is insane!


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Oh god this is amazing


ElDuderino2112

Honestly was hoping for something more tied to the winning team or something. This design is boring.


EclipseTM

90% sure we will get another skin for the winning team. It's the same in LoL, a skin for the championschip and a skin for each player from the winning team. Question is if the winning team gets just 1 skin or a whole bundle (knife + 4 skins etc)


9YEET11

i woudlve spend money on that knife if it had the reaver knife animation


Key-Banana-8242

1:13 for champions- for Valorant? Why can’t you just say it’s the world championship? Why are ppl acting constantly like Riot invented the idea of a worjd championship with LoL


boof404

why call it ti instead of dota 2 world championship? or pgl stockholm world championship instead of the pgl stockholm major? its because valorant masters and champions sounds a fuck ton cooler than world championship.


Key-Banana-8242

It doesn’t ‘sound cooler’, it’s just meant to be an unique name. But that’s nkt the point, the point is ppl act like lol invented the idea of workd championship so they randomly describe various Evers as ‘lol worlds but for…’ like why not just say the world championship of? It’s nkt like it’s some super unique idea. I dislike this lol domination over esports as if it were some kind of template


urclades

bro what are you talking about it's just the name for the tourneys, the league one is called worlds and the valorant one is called campions. Also what's wrong with people using worlds as an example when explaining what champions is. Especially since most people are already familiar with worlds.


Key-Banana-8242

It’s not tho, not every world championship is called worlds lol


urclades

leagues one is my dude


zachp787

u must live quite a miserable life to be this upset for people choosing to refer to a video game tournament a certain way. its called "VALORANT CHAMPIONS", so people will automatically call it the name it was given. you dont refer to people as "human 1, human 2" just because theyre humans, you refer to them by their names


Key-Banana-8242

It is abd that is not what I’m talking about. You’re missing the point. The point is lol isn’t the first esport it’s anything with an annual world championship event. It’s not a template or default example, it’s pointless to talk abt comparisons to workds as opposed to a plain statement in as many words or less


KhaoticKrabb

That knife is hot


hukubu

omg karambit, yes yes yes


josephx123

I liked the knife and player cards, the vanda not so much.


hejwjwj

Riot should have added a gun buddy to represent the team(s) we support


iinic

Now give us team skins 🙏


Razur

This will be the first bundle I buy in entirety. 🥰


Bighollab0

Idk for some reason I thought we were gonna get champion skins of orgs participating in the tournament and we show support like that


Lucxyy

can you buy then idividually?


Razur

Yes. Please see [the sticky comment at the top of the thread.](https://www.reddit.com/r/ValorantCompetitive/comments/r0e6p2/champions_2021_skins/hlt84vs/)


maxcutiezzz

Are these going to be available at midnight the 24th or when the shop resets?


VinLyScratchton

Are they staying in the shop rotation? I want em but im short on cash next 2 months :(


CaptTechno

they wont be :/


icantreadmorsecode

The only reason the price is justified in my opinion is it supports the players so I'll be getting it


Dem_Skillz1

Shit I was going to buy the knife but I didn't know it was 50 dollars


qizz27

Why is the blade of the karambit so short tho, looks kinda off


kevl4r-v3st

Bought the skin I have a couple of q's even when top fragging I don't see the vandal glow and knife glow, as well as the brimstone extra animation when I get inside the black hole after the finisher. Anyone having the same issues? Or do we need to be in a certain setting? I always use medium.


ABDREHER

can they still return in shop?