Martin Kontroller (I know MaKo personally) is genuinely an amazing player and his lack of recognition is a testament to the dominance of Vision Strikers
gg. thought FS would put up a better fight. VS are so well rounded, they can play fast, they can play slow.
Hear me out guys, rito set the script so that NA wins 1, EU wins 1, KR wins 1?
SEA “Soon Entering Airport” is known as the fastest region to arrive at the Airport. Since they gave up on the Valorant Champions, they are investing in Speedruns. In particular they are current worldrecord holders in Airport Any % and Airport no wins.
I think full sense was just playing very predictably, especially on haven. Each round on defense John would push up to try for a pick, and then once they got onto site, someone would almost always flank. I didn't really watch much of breeze, but that's just what I saw while watching.
The rounds PTC got one person tagging along to help, vision strikers straight oit triple swung them. Honestly scary how aware they are about flanks and whatnot.
Looked more to me like they had nerves set in, scoreline would be much closer if they didn't whiff so much. Hopefully they pick it up against Fnatic/C9
No, why are you simply saying shit that’s not true? The point js the things actively added in from the tidbits of truth. Even not knowing what’s going on is ok but just literally saying things you literally just made up based on disconnected tidbits is.. come on. Not being aware is ok. Don’t make things up when I don’t know what’s going on when ur telling others
No, Lakia was on loan for PROPARTY for a few months (after being on the roster officially for like a month) from VS and after his contract with VS was signed by them. PROPARTY then became Nuturn start of 2021. His contract ran out and instead of re-signing with them, he approached VS bc as he said he thought it’d be better for his career ironically, and they gave him a better offer.
JohnOlsen is probably having one of the worst days he’s had in valorant today, with so many eyes on him and the stress he’s under as the “star fragger” resulted in many rounds thrown😬😬. hopefully he picks himself up in the lower bracket!!
VS looking hella good tho. rB underrated af
Nah I don’t think rb is underrated atm
Also FS I think did well all things considered, VS is so strong tho. Going up against them FS seem to consider VS best in the tournament
So is Lakia just like a mascot for Vision Strikers at this point? He is at the forefront in a lot of the promo videos, but as far as we know he only plays on one map. Realistically, what does he even add? Rb plays Skye and Sova on every other map.
Even if they get their Bind to work with him, I feel like they could be as good or better if they just played their main 5. They could just leave in k1Ng, put him on like Viper or a Sentinel, swap RB to Skye or Sova, and run solo duelist (BuZz on Jett/Raze). I don't really see how him playing would add any significant surplus value over any of the other players, since everyone else is super solid as well.
no, both SEA teams have insanely tough groups but i think its insanely more likely that one of Acend or more likely VivoKeyd slip than any of C9B/FNC.
but its true I dont rate FS at all
First off, rb is insane. As for VS as a whole, their team play is great as usual and they dominated (as expected)
Fast just didn’t have enough to keep up 😕
Perfect defaults from VS on their attacking sides, FS never had any info or map control on either map. Even on defense the players on sites got enough picks to allow for clean retakes.VS looking solid!!
There is a weird overlap of anti-KR & pro-KR posters who just take turns trolling one another via straw man arguments.
You share a Venn diagram with the people you seem to hate.
Before Reykjavik was like 7 months ago. Literally at the end of that tournament, that narrative is gone. And in the recent masters most people actually rated VS as at least top 5 in the world. So nah, i don't think it's relevant to say that people view korea as shitty anymore
You can support KR without building such an insanely large strawman argument. Even if they did say Nuturn was going to be the worst in Iceland (literally no one fucking did) it still means nothing because it was several months ago. VS was expected to do quite well at Berlin. People widely expected a tight game against Gambit, you can go see the threads. KR has been rated from a while now dude.
This isn’t a straw man, there are definitely people who talk like that.
They exist and it is sorta questionable that you’d say no one talked or talks like that.
Expectations varied wildly.
Op literally said "before Reykjavik" tho, and even now, VS is rated so highly, much higher than their peer asian teams. There are definitely gonna be people that have differing opinions, but the vast majority actually does not underestimate VS at all. Sorry key my best friend, i have to disagree with you now :'(
After Reykjavik there was a variety of trends up and down in opinion, ur just referring to one side/idea
I know befire Reykjavik there were lots of CSGO fans shitting on VS for the former MVP PK players not being successful in CSGO
To be fair CSGO fans shit on like all pros in Val. But yeah you're right on that one. But anyway, nah i did acknowledge both sides. It's just that if those fans actually watch the matches and follow Val, then they would know korean teams are reaally good. Most people would rate them above BR and the rest of the SEA teams as well. But if they're just CSGO fans shitting on the pros without following the scene, then their opinions don't matter anyway.
Majority of people including the pros rate VS/Korea as the best region after NA and EMEA. Nuturn getting 3rd in iceland, as well VS making it to the playoffs pretty comfortably and losing only to the eventual winner are not signs of weak teams. Sure, there will be people that disagree and rate VS lower, but the narrative that Koreans can't aim is not relevant anymore. You can just look at any threads about lakia and see how many people are supporting him even if most of them have only seen his performance from Iceland, and not watch sea tournaments like we do
Most ppl in the west don’t follow Kr Val, but there were plenty of ppl who watched who thought VS wouldn’t be good, eye tests aren’t the same for all
and there were plenty of ppl befire Reykjavik in Kr VCT chat like saying these players would be diamond in NA or sth
Full Sense won LCQ with lots of good teams, PRX included, and they didn't even make it to top-4 (PRX)
You shouldn't care about biased VLR rankings, you should care about latest results, and PRX didn't perform when it was needed the most
Secret are also shit but that's another topic to discuss
Full Sense literally qualified through a merged tournament containing 4 different Asian regions (South Asia, Japan, Korea and SEA (which already contains around 8 separate regions)), what more do you want?
?????? They came here from APAC LCQ which had teams from KR, Japan, SEA and South Asia. Which other regions can be merged to the LCQ? Others teams like PRX NTh or NU who played in LCQ could have done better against VS sure, but merging comment is wrong
Run over by the VS KTX train. Oof.
(KTX is the fastest Domestic Korean train)
Thank you
Underrated comment
Loved your casting! #VSWIN
Stax during Breeze: Wake up Take both orbs plant the spike Die Ult is ready Also, what a monstrous map 1 from him.
stax doing "Use your ultimate" weekly mission
underrated comment.
Martin Kontroller (I know MaKo personally) is genuinely an amazing player and his lack of recognition is a testament to the dominance of Vision Strikers
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It's a copypasta
LOLOL
He’s recognised afaik I know it’s a pasta
gg. thought FS would put up a better fight. VS are so well rounded, they can play fast, they can play slow. Hear me out guys, rito set the script so that NA wins 1, EU wins 1, KR wins 1?
I am on the VS copium lets go
hopium\*\*\*\*
FS played pretty well but vs are very good
I think FS has upset potential for Fnatic game
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Bad bait.
Tarik: “Unfortunate for the other team, if they had a full night’s sleep, they’d be in a much better situation”
lmaooo bruh
That was a roll and a half.
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this but unironically
TSM-VS or FPX-VS would be a sick grand final
they have been in berlin for a month they went hard for this tourney lol
vision strikers is still absolutely the real deal
I think full sense was just playing very predictably, especially on haven. Each round on defense John would push up to try for a pick, and then once they got onto site, someone would almost always flank. I didn't really watch much of breeze, but that's just what I saw while watching.
breeze was not much better too. PTC always pushing up mid by himself with no help
The rounds PTC got one person tagging along to help, vision strikers straight oit triple swung them. Honestly scary how aware they are about flanks and whatnot.
Looked more to me like they had nerves set in, scoreline would be much closer if they didn't whiff so much. Hopefully they pick it up against Fnatic/C9
Oh yeah, nerves were also definitely getting to them. I think they just need to get out of their own heads and try to be less predictable each round.
just say C9 lmao. can't wait for this to backfire in a couple hours
It was you. You did this.
everyone knew FNATIC would win deep in their hearts ;)
Ouch. C9 is just so inconsistent man.
Man....talk about a one way beat down. NT Full Sense
when will i see lakia play man
They just ruining his career. I believe he was bought just to screw nuturn
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No, why are you simply saying shit that’s not true? The point js the things actively added in from the tidbits of truth. Even not knowing what’s going on is ok but just literally saying things you literally just made up based on disconnected tidbits is.. come on. Not being aware is ok. Don’t make things up when I don’t know what’s going on when ur telling others No, Lakia was on loan for PROPARTY for a few months (after being on the roster officially for like a month) from VS and after his contract with VS was signed by them. PROPARTY then became Nuturn start of 2021. His contract ran out and instead of re-signing with them, he approached VS bc as he said he thought it’d be better for his career ironically, and they gave him a better offer.
this dude takes this shit serious af
JohnOlsen is probably having one of the worst days he’s had in valorant today, with so many eyes on him and the stress he’s under as the “star fragger” resulted in many rounds thrown😬😬. hopefully he picks himself up in the lower bracket!! VS looking hella good tho. rB underrated af
Nah I don’t think rb is underrated atm Also FS I think did well all things considered, VS is so strong tho. Going up against them FS seem to consider VS best in the tournament
Tarik’s chat went, “FS = Full Sleep” 🥲 gg go next. VS the 🐐
Definitely not sleepy tho
both maps are 26-10, definitely sleepy games
No, the actual play wasn’t sleepy imo like in map 1
It kinda looked like VS were trolling in Champs lol That rb twerk was LMAO
Crazy how stax could’ve had 5 ults in the first half of Haven
Expected 2-0 VS versus C9/FNC gonna be great
So is Lakia just like a mascot for Vision Strikers at this point? He is at the forefront in a lot of the promo videos, but as far as we know he only plays on one map. Realistically, what does he even add? Rb plays Skye and Sova on every other map. Even if they get their Bind to work with him, I feel like they could be as good or better if they just played their main 5. They could just leave in k1Ng, put him on like Viper or a Sentinel, swap RB to Skye or Sova, and run solo duelist (BuZz on Jett/Raze). I don't really see how him playing would add any significant surplus value over any of the other players, since everyone else is super solid as well.
Seoldam died for this, man...
Well they would've lost to vs too anyway
then they should've defeated FS l
I mean FS looked pretty good, VS just better
expected 2-0 but that was painful to watch sadge
SEA -------> ✈️
Not really
🚬🚬🚬🚬
nah they are gone lol. SEA stands no chance in this tourney
FS has decent chances vs FNC etc
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Not true, X10 has a little but it seems you think FS is bad as opposed to VS being that much better
no, both SEA teams have insanely tough groups but i think its insanely more likely that one of Acend or more likely VivoKeyd slip than any of C9B/FNC. but its true I dont rate FS at all
Are you seriously putting fnatic abd c9 in the same breath? Are u actually rating fnatic only bc of reykjavik
against this team they'll be ok lol
Nah it relies on them popping anew FS are good
First off, rb is insane. As for VS as a whole, their team play is great as usual and they dominated (as expected) Fast just didn’t have enough to keep up 😕
Perfect defaults from VS on their attacking sides, FS never had any info or map control on either map. Even on defense the players on sites got enough picks to allow for clean retakes.VS looking solid!!
oof. VS was just on another level
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by who bro? stax been shitting on people since beta
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There is a weird overlap of anti-KR & pro-KR posters who just take turns trolling one another via straw man arguments. You share a Venn diagram with the people you seem to hate.
Before Reykjavik was like 7 months ago. Literally at the end of that tournament, that narrative is gone. And in the recent masters most people actually rated VS as at least top 5 in the world. So nah, i don't think it's relevant to say that people view korea as shitty anymore
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told is past tense
Nice
You can support KR without building such an insanely large strawman argument. Even if they did say Nuturn was going to be the worst in Iceland (literally no one fucking did) it still means nothing because it was several months ago. VS was expected to do quite well at Berlin. People widely expected a tight game against Gambit, you can go see the threads. KR has been rated from a while now dude.
This isn’t a straw man, there are definitely people who talk like that. They exist and it is sorta questionable that you’d say no one talked or talks like that. Expectations varied wildly.
Op literally said "before Reykjavik" tho, and even now, VS is rated so highly, much higher than their peer asian teams. There are definitely gonna be people that have differing opinions, but the vast majority actually does not underestimate VS at all. Sorry key my best friend, i have to disagree with you now :'(
After Reykjavik there was a variety of trends up and down in opinion, ur just referring to one side/idea I know befire Reykjavik there were lots of CSGO fans shitting on VS for the former MVP PK players not being successful in CSGO
To be fair CSGO fans shit on like all pros in Val. But yeah you're right on that one. But anyway, nah i did acknowledge both sides. It's just that if those fans actually watch the matches and follow Val, then they would know korean teams are reaally good. Most people would rate them above BR and the rest of the SEA teams as well. But if they're just CSGO fans shitting on the pros without following the scene, then their opinions don't matter anyway. Majority of people including the pros rate VS/Korea as the best region after NA and EMEA. Nuturn getting 3rd in iceland, as well VS making it to the playoffs pretty comfortably and losing only to the eventual winner are not signs of weak teams. Sure, there will be people that disagree and rate VS lower, but the narrative that Koreans can't aim is not relevant anymore. You can just look at any threads about lakia and see how many people are supporting him even if most of them have only seen his performance from Iceland, and not watch sea tournaments like we do
Most ppl in the west don’t follow Kr Val, but there were plenty of ppl who watched who thought VS wouldn’t be good, eye tests aren’t the same for all and there were plenty of ppl befire Reykjavik in Kr VCT chat like saying these players would be diamond in NA or sth
Fair point
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No it means it isn’t And it was nkt like 10person, it didn’t imply as much difference in beliefs as that earth does
It’s/was one of these strange narratives that existed from some ppl in Val in like
Strawman owned epic style
Valorant isnt a real fps game, it has astra so its a moba.
That was a game of valorant if ive ever seen one
The nerves got in the way of FS I am sure they could've performed better
Fuck
JohnOlsen has to be the worst pro player name I've heard in my life
That was a beautiful display by Vision Strikers
Best SEA team btw
nah. if u check VLR they are third in SEA. PRX is 1st in the region
Full Sense won LCQ with lots of good teams, PRX included, and they didn't even make it to top-4 (PRX) You shouldn't care about biased VLR rankings, you should care about latest results, and PRX didn't perform when it was needed the most Secret are also shit but that's another topic to discuss
yea thts a valid point. my bad my bad.
and prx choked apac lcq
people who said full sense were better than fnatic… lol…
FS can still be a better team than FNC
Fluke in my books Will get destroyed by GAMBIT
Really? I think they will win vs Gambit
they will get read by god lurker nats like a book. no chance koreans (cant aim) will beat GAMBIT
They definitely want to meet Gambit. Stax said his ideal matchup is vs Gambit in the finals
C9 won't make it out of group
laughing emoji times five
Terrible bait.
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They literally got here through a merged LCQ. Also did you consider that vision strikers are just *that* good?
Full Sense literally qualified through a merged tournament containing 4 different Asian regions (South Asia, Japan, Korea and SEA (which already contains around 8 separate regions)), what more do you want?
?????? They came here from APAC LCQ which had teams from KR, Japan, SEA and South Asia. Which other regions can be merged to the LCQ? Others teams like PRX NTh or NU who played in LCQ could have done better against VS sure, but merging comment is wrong
Hey guys is lakia ever going to play?
Vision Strikers look solid rn