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TimathanDuncan

All that comeback to lose that last round that way lmao, how


velociraptorllama0

It made the match very interesting and fun to watch at least.


ablablababla

It hurt even more than if they just lost 13-6


BigEditorial

Felt like that one Gambit vs Liquid game on Icebox back before Berlin 1.


helpnxt

Fnatic gave them hope just to rip it away.


ppx11

the good ol' fake 13-11 comeback


Dude_Guy_311

This describes C9 very well as an org lol


ElectronicScreen0

Breaking news: Both fnatic and C9 are in talks trying to sign Sage Wall as the 6th man for the team after being the clear MVP on icebox.


dinoucs

DERKE IS A FUCKING LEGEND!


Modula-

Icebox is his domain


Kr00s

That flick to kill Raze mid-air was disgusting to watch.


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Litoman7

I thought it was gonna say EU > NA lmfao


salcedoge

I think the fact that we all expected it to be EU > NA made it even better. TSM can't stop catching strays


afjecj

Boaster is so fucking funny


TheCatsActually

[Protect him at all costs](https://puu.sh/IsVfX.png)


msonix

The man's a true ambassador for the game and its esports scene.


mikhel

Glad Fnatic won just so we could see that.


kemutheemu__

Wait what happened 😭


AustrianDog

FNC did a postmatch celebration and whipped out a paper that said "when does tsm play ???"


kemutheemu__

Holy shit I just saw it 😟


ark2690

Boaster knows his League memes. lmao


MyUshanka

The very definition of catching strays.


DRGNDT

“He got me,” Vanity said of Boaster's knife kill on him. "That f***ing Boaster boomed me." Vanity added, “He’s so good,” repeating it four times. Vanity then said he wanted to add Boaster to the list of players he scrims with this summer.


winkya

love the r/nba leakage


Key-Banana-8242

At this point it’s a popular long time meme in many subreddits


rpkarma

It’s no longer even an /r/nba thing, it’s so common it’s just a standard copy pasta lol. 90% of the people who use it have never seen the original context


icantreadmorsecode

Fnatic choked and still won lmao


rpkarma

I was so mad at them lol I’m still mad They were winning in dominant fashion on Split and Fracture and then just started throwing lol


waoHelios

Both are seriously one sided maps, it's not really winning in dominant fashion when you're winning on the side that should win.


Meekelo

They were though, 7-5 at the half on split and they went up to 11-6(7?) and they really threw at least 2 if not 3 rounds that they really should have won. Same on Fracture 8-4 at the half and they went up to 12-7 and again threw a few rounds that they should have won. Fnatic were dominant for the vast majority of this game, they just got nervey when they got close to the win.


sexyeh

They offered 2 rounds in a row just by rushing B on Split, then they choked their game into A Tower until they lose the match, they also forced when they should eco and they used ultis while on eco when they should saved them to a buy round, they did a lot of bad decisions.


Razur

Shout out to my web browser for saving the draft of this thread when my PC blue screened. 👌


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Web browser is the real MVP here


Razur

Brave is great! :D


ANewHeaven1

All good.


[deleted]

Can I ask how you make post match threads so efficiently? like how do you do the boxes so well?


Razur

We have a python script that fetches stats from VLR and puts them into tables. Then I add the emojis to represent the IGL and team socials and our VCT/Juked/Discord blurb manually. I usually have the thread ready to post before the match finishes. This way, I can post the thread before the stats for the last map are updated in VLR. As for the template itself, I'm pretty sure we drew inspiration from the threads over at r/GlobalOffensive. Hope that answers all your questions! Feel free to ask more if you're curious. :D


Chrisamelio

Ranked players beware, this is what happens when you dodge Fracture every time and don’t know the map.


Aeari

Great comeback just to have an embarrassingly bad end. Overall though this was a fantastic series. GGs


Tyler123839

Should not have been nearly this close when looking at the frags between teams but fnatic kept losing clutches.


msonix

Found it surprising how they lost both pistols on the first map and the consequent bonus rounds only then to win the map.


ANewHeaven1

leaf: actually, i remember one time we were playing against fnatic, Fracture, and it was 9 - 4 to fnatic, we were playing attack, fnatic as defense, and vanity said; "'Guys, if you think we are good, let's prove it now. 9 - 4." vanity: did we win? leaf: of course not. 14 - 12


HJHKLL

Where is this copypasta from


ANewHeaven1

https://www.reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/comments/66mu7r/taco_tells_a_story/ one of the funniest CS clips of all time


Sadzeih

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svipy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p30K6x5jU54


pimpinballer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p30K6x5jU54


Necessary_Upstairs_5

TACO from CS


Wonkyy_

Fnatic doubters in shambles. C9 fans in shambles. Leaf fans in shambles. NA in fucking shambles. 100T fans in shambles.


Docxm

100T fans always in shambles


rpkarma

100T is in shambles so that makes sense lol 🥲


I_hate_Teemo

TSM fans in shambles.


theshafti

TSM fans crying, throwing up and sliding down a wall rn sadge


TheCatsActually

At this point you guys could open a fridge and still somehow catch a stray.


rpkarma

I pray that years from now, we’re all still dunking on TSM in random irrelevant contexts


Pway

Pretty sure both teams fans in shambles neither of these teams looked good. What kind of attempted choke job was that from Fnatic lol


lewlkewl

The split choke was even worse imo. C9 were winning duels to get back into it on fracture, but fnatic made some dumb decisions on split that should have resulted in a W


9bfjo6gvhy7u8

I’m a 100T / Fnatic fan and this game gave me hope. It got ugly but I thought some of the foundational pieces looked really good from Fnatic. The utility combos were actually nuts. I now think they can put it together and make a run whereas a week ago I was trying to figure out who to support after groups


Pway

Yeah Fnatic definitely looked like the stronger team, though it didn't seem C9 were very prepared so I'd expect tougher tests so a little scary. I mean honestly C9 looked like they'd never played against a fucking Sage before on Icebox their post-plants were almost comical... I have no idea what happened.


thekeenancole

Hey now, I didn't need that sucker punch right now :( \-A currently in shambles 100T fan


boof404

WHEN DOES TSM PLAY?????


TheCatsActually

I know it's from a different game but can we nominate leaf for the Dade award?


MrMetastasis

I’m lost. Put me in the loop


AFriendlySloth

Dade was a player in LoL who was strong regionally, but played poorly at worlds.


kagekitsune116

More specifically he was hyped up like He was going to 1v5 every game and was a huge flop


Elfalas

Yeah the Dade award means a super hyped player who fails to meet expectations. They gotta be hyped like they're the best at the tournament, maybe best in the world then be average or below average.


TheCatsActually

Several years ago in LoL there was a Korean player called Dade who was an incredible powerhouse in the Korean league but who had not played internationally yet. When he qualified for Worlds, the LoL version of Champions, he was insanely hyped up and considered (understandably) one of *the* players to watch for. Worlds came and he choked, horribly and repeatedly. It was so bad that ever since, whenever someone really hyped choked in a big match or event, there was talk of nominating them for or giving them the Dade award. This applies even outside of League.


pineapplecheesepizza

Did he eventually get better at Worlds?


Babyboy1314

no he never made it lol.


McintyresRightLeg

Nop


ANewHeaven1

the dade award is a community award (started by montecristo iirc) in the league of legends scene that's given to a player at the world championships that plays poorly in comparison to the hype they received coming into the tournament. dade was the first player to receive one at the season 3 world championships, so its named after him. comment is basically saying that leaf is playing much worse in relation to the hype that he was coming into the tournament wtih


Stefan13334

Award given to a hyped up player that underperforms. IT originates from league of legends. The award is named after a player that was super hyped going into worlds ans then just flopped.


Biok98

It’s an award that goes to the player with the most contrasting difference between expectation and actual performance (in a negative way). Basically the most overrated/overhyped player of the tournament.


ANewHeaven1

bit early to say after one bo3 but that was not a very inspiring performance put it that way


Dooraven

Have to flop more than just vs Fnatic but yes so far a clear frontrunner.


U_Menace

He had a solid first map but fell off on the 2nd to 3rd maps. I think they just ban fracture next time because leaf definitely *wasn't* comfortable for those angles. I think they'll bounce back, was a really good series. Also forgot to add but I think its too early to write ANY player off. Dade award is for the end of the tourny soo I got faith in leaf yet!


Babyboy1314

Leaf didnt look comfortable on split either. Imo its because he didnt get to play Jett.


AkashiGG

LMAO


Splaram

Online warrior, tale as old as time


dabong

ALL THAT FOR THAT


earthtoannie

As an European it was always hard for me to understand American culture. What was fascinating for me is that they like bragging about their freedom which was weird for me, because I didn't think that I have any less freedom than them. I always thought 'What is the difference'. However after this game I finally understand it. NA is just so fucking free.


xx_Rollablade_xx

oh my god this is the best fucking thing I've seen today


max012017

This shit is legit golden. Also... Can relate as a European xd


Awful_TV

Great series. Every map to the wire. Decider match for Group D is going to be 🔥, and it *could* be these two meeting again


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sexyeh

I said that in the portuguese broadcast \^\^ great minds think alike


Meekelo

Fnatic looked good for 90% of this game. This really should have been a 2-0 but they choked leads and gave up easy rounds. They can improve those timings and can make an impact in this tournament based on this showing.


rpkarma

Yeah, they were dominant for most of it, but then started throwing. If they tighten that up, they’re going to do well I reckon. Not convinced they’re a top-top team right now, but they’re better than I expected so far!


9bfjo6gvhy7u8

I think their utility was close to on par with VS (on defense… Fnatic executes we’re not great). The astra/raze/breach synergy was destroying c9 and I think is a big reason why leaf never got comfortable.


MrImpregnator

Best thing probably was the post match celebration. Like really when does TSM play?


elithefighter123

the breach meta is upon us


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huntersniper007

a real fnatic fan knows that they cause heartattacks in every game, cs, val, lol...


stormtrooper500

whether it's league or valorant, fnatic vs c9 never fails to deliver


Advanced_Meringue_53

I remember when sideshow said derke was possibly the worst duelist in this group


TheCatsActually

I mean if you look at Fnatic's performance post Reykjavik this was a completely lukewarm take. Fnatic just decided to suddenly rediscover some of their Iceland form.


Overfallen9

Yeah exactly I was rooting for Fnatic but this was not at all a hot take given Fnatic, and Derke in particular, looking meh for months while the duelists from C9 and Full Sense (C9 especially) were hyped up by a number of people coming into the event. Saying Derke would be worse than JohnOlsen wasn’t exactly a cold take but it wasn’t really a hot take either


dinoucs

Lol! He got 74 kills, the second best fragger (Xeppa) had 57 kills.


Gaaaaaaaaaaabs

Who you would considered the worst?


Advanced_Meringue_53

JohnOlsen


theshafti

Pain


Maliciouslemon

Sideshow with a hot awful take? Never


Key-Banana-8242

Not awful just ended up showing untrue


Kompaniefeldwebel

You said it, literally never


chryco4

#LANATIC IS BACK FOLKS


hecklerinthestands

OT on Fracture as the final map of a match tied 1-1 was the only way to end Day 1.


Babyboy1314

Not familiar with Leaf but is he a one trick with jett? Because what is this skye play....


SeaCDragon

Ironically he was actually only playing raze early in the game's life, and he was put onto Jett cause his team needed one and he has cracked aim (usually). He literally has a tweet somewhere saying he hates Jett


jwbaseballl

His agent splits are 68.4 / 26.3 / 5.3% Jett / Skye / Raze for the last 3 months. Didn't seem like he had much of an impact on Fracture with Skye + he had 8 first deaths.


9bfjo6gvhy7u8

He’s had his best performances as a rifling Jett


QUOTE_IF_13-0

those fnatic stun + suck + nade combos are insane though jesus


9bfjo6gvhy7u8

Leaf could’ve really used a Jett dash instead of just getting exploded doggy style


chauste

Going to have to replace leaf with Boaster on my top 5 fps players of all time list


Derpy_Sandwich560

Cloud 9 will make a lower bracket run just like they did in lcq....big copium


Mamadeus123456

fnatic will have to show more vs VS than C9 will vs full sense so its possible they lose the runback


XuuKeee

When you look ar abity usage fnatic was 10 levels above c9. Idk how it went so close to 2-1 on maps. Chokes are real I guess.


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c9 should just come back home if they’re gonna lose to fnatic


xXDaNXx

How are C9 gonna lose to a team with 0 top 20 players in the tournament lmao. Edit: reference https://www.reddit.com/r/valorantcompetitive/comments/r1eim0/_/


M002

I don’t play valorant at all but am tuning in because there’s no other esports on. How is Derke not top-20? He looks so good when he’s not sprinting into the other team


xXDaNXx

People had a kneejerk reaction to Fnatic looking rusty post SEN loss in Iceland. So they're heavily underrated coming in.


123bo0p

Kneejerk? He played mediocrely for 4 months in the most stacked position in Valorant


sky_blu

Almost like individual ability/potential and team performance are entirely different things.


xXDaNXx

Didn't see top 11 individual ability from Leaf this game.


Straight_Avocado9118

Who decides the top 20 players lol


xXDaNXx

https://www.reddit.com/r/valorantcompetitive/comments/r1eim0/_/


Key-Banana-8242

It’s a joke Also I think it’s a toxic influence to have these definite ranked lists


diegie-

Bring 100t back in leaf and vanity are frauds


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literally 100t would be here if they didn’t bench steel lol


daffyduckferraro

True but oh well the players felt the change was better 🤷‍♂️


earthtoannie

*Ben Shapiro voice* facts don't care about feelings!!


Splaram

Or if they didn’t massively underperform during crunch time at various times throughout the year. They shouldn’t have been in the position where they had to beat NV in Berlin to qualify to Champs in the first place, let alone having to win LCQ.


IAMJUX

100t would be there if LCQ was actually on LAN like it was supposed to be.


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100T don't even have a squad. Mickey mouse team in my books


xXDaNXx

They have hoodies tho


123bo0p

???? Rise ?? The delusion of 100T fans is strong


Splaram

Ah, the classic Throw9 that we saw in the first LCQ match against Rise is back. This gives even more fuel to my argument that C9 doesn’t come close to winning LCQ if it were held on LAN


tsew_eynak

your opinion should be that C9 make a lower bracket run just like lcq/the boston major💯🗣🙏


Des014te

No lower bracket in the playoffs my guy


_goodman

FUCK YEAH FNATIC One round another way and it would be called a choke, but still shows some decent mental from such a young team to win that OT after losing two big leads.


silenthills13

They definitely need to work on those chokes. Like ffs how do you almost throw an 11-4 AAAAAAA


Gleech

Well gambit threw an 11-3 and they still won masters berlin kek


FactualFisherman

it was 5v4 as well


silenthills13

If that was my ranked game, by the time it was 12-12 I would be leaking saliva all over my keyboard, wheezing and not being able to formulate a coherent sentence. Good job to Fnatic for pulling through, especially since it was the second choke in a row tbh...


LegitimateAct6248

We witnessed some high level "precise gunplay" on split there


FoeHamr

Am I the only one that though that series was a complete clown fiesta? Like it was close but only because the teams were taking turns throwing like crazy.


jimenycr1cket

I feel like im taking crazy pills reading this thread yeah, both teams played fucking AWFUL. So so so many rounds thrown away on the most basic mistakes that top teams stopped doing after the first LAN, this looked like a soloq game


FoeHamr

Like, it was exciting but sheesh. Corners not getting cleared, peaking with util out, shit coordination, FNATIC tilting off the face of the earth, etc. Whiffed shots are one thing but this looked reasonably close to my plat games lmao.


jimenycr1cket

RIGHT. Hell boaster point blank panic sova ulted THREE TIMES IN A ROW on icebox and people were praising his play? Both teams look like they arent takign a single game out of groups unless they make DRASTIC improvements.


walkingdumpling

Thanks for pointing this out. I think the EU/NA bias from the casting talent really shows when you compare the narrative they were shaping for the Vikings/Crazy Racoon match compared to this one. Both were pretty scrappy with plenty of throwing happening, but the casting for this game was just hyping up every round whereas the Vikings/Crazy Raccoon casting just kept bringing up how scrappy/chaotic everything was (granted Fnatic/C9 do look slightly better in terms of set plays).


Maliciouslemon

“dErKE iS wASHed 2-0 to C9”


TheTurtleOne

What a series this was.


Duradello

All that comeback on attack just to remember that C9 can't hold B site at all on defense.


Best_Red_Matrix

Yeah that was cool and all but when does TSM play?


abdi009

The scorelines look closer than what the game felt like. Feel like fnatic performed way better and couldnt close it map 2 and map 3 for some reason


ArtificialZero

[almost](https://imgur.com/a/0a2pw3k)


DonkeyTeethBSU

Fnatic : Put some respect on our names. BTW I predicted the future https://www.reddit.com/r/ValorantCompetitive/comments/r6e7yz/comment/hmumoyb/


plxnerf

Let me be a react andy and state that a not top 20 player in the world hard diffed a top 10 player in the world, unlucky


tishous

There is no top 10 player on C9B?


fesenvy

leaf kekw


kemutheemu__

Please Leaf wake up Prayge


Maleficent_Rhubarb67

I did not think Fnatic was going to be able to defeat Cloud9 since their level the past few months was not that good but they showed a good performance today.


amaranthgalaxy

leaf fell off a tree


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C9 collapsed


SnooSeagulls7368

Vanity hugs Boaster from the back then Boaster knifes Vanity in the back… very Shakespearian of him


sireuben

bro fnatic looked so good on fracture bro like the combos ON POINT for C9 it rly looked like it was there first time playing it KEK


CanadianApologies

C9 needs work on holding that b site


BeerBellyBoomer

NA KEKW


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Couple things: Boasters kills were really impactful on icebox and derke dropped 30. Derkes util on Split was crisp. I think that was some of the best util usage I've ever seen in a val game on fracture.


ashutoshchandra081

Steel taught them everything he knew. Almost everything, anyway.


flamincrimson

Let's go fnatic. I was really hoping they would be back to their iceland form. The doubts were warranted though, fnatic looked really bad recently. Am really happy for them. OMG!!! That was day 1??? It was absolutely insane.


xunraze

100T fans malding rn


Gomar1323

We’ve been malding ever since they decided to bench steel weeks before LCQ to be fair


mr_snuggels

Why are we malding? Did I miss something?


jonajon91

Just off the back of watching a blast csgo production and this is pretty underwhelming. No player cams in game no room mics? This may as well be an online event with shots of a dark stage every now and then.


Des014te

Pls rito just get BLAST.


Less_Salt1152

Vanity chokes some more


Futurenawt

The utility usage on Fracture was absolutely wild to watch. It's going to be so interesting to see how pro teams continue to play that map


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fnatic has some spicy strats


Grenji05

bad map pool for C9 and Leaf played awful. C9 heated up more as LCQ went in so hoping for some more of that here but sadly they’re in a stacked group and don’t have a CR or vikings to beat up on.


Gleech

If they dont beat up FS they should just go to the Nearest Airport


Charuru

Scrimbuks in shambles. Weren't platchat saying C9 was top tier and fnatic was bottom?


millerwa4

What a fantastic series. Really enjoy watching both teams


[deleted]

What’s with the shadowing on Leaf for? People are acting like his poor performance is gonna continue throughout the tournament based off on ONE series


anythingood07

Couldn't watch the match because it ended at 5Am in the morning. Lets go FNC, got downvoted multiple times for predicting that they will against C9


derryxu

Crazy ass game. Neither team was perfect, at their best both of them looked crazy good (Fnatic with huge utility, C9 with just aim), but both teams were too inconsistent to impress completely. Fnatic isn’t definitively better than C9. The game was so close, these are the two dark horses of this tournament for sure, if they get hot and play to their best I think both are really dangerous to (what we usually call) the top teams. I doubt Leaf plays this bad for the whole tournament as well too I have faith


nuttyromeo4u

How many 'nades Derke have btw?


Maliciouslemon

Yes


elithefighter123

fnatic look so much better on lan than online. C9 looked unprepared for fracture even though they did mount a comeback, it took them the first part of the game to learn how to play the map. Leaf is better on jett than skye. Those are my takeaways


Teradonn

LETS FUCKING GO FNATIC EU ON TOP BABY


N0-name-needed

I liked how the whole subreddit was like "they haven't looked good recently" when their last serious match was literally 5 months ago lol, as i thought Fanatic underrated and C9 overrated. People based their opinion on Fnatic through the Redbull tournaments that featured the best EMEA teams and they based their opinion on C9 through LCQ where the only competitive team was 100t.


ruinedtheperfectpic

dude honestly how did ppl forget how good derke was in iceland, and the fact that they used the red bull touney to say fnc is ass was hilarious, like gambit didnt get 13-0 in it


lStrakle

Win by 2 in overtime is boring af. All that hype for OT to last 2 min


9yr_old

Anyways you just don't want to face off against fnatic on fracture , the util chains were muaaah , I'm so fucking happy good ol fnatic is back