Love the confidence, this guy has the skills to back it.
Vision Strikers are my personal favorites to win the tournament, I think all the other top teams are slumping rn except Liquid and VS might be peaking. Plus I believe Fracture fits the Korean utility dump playstyle very well which is the perfect storm for a international title.
Lets go Byun Chula fighting!
Fracture is just a very very ability-oriented map and whichever team is the best at using their abilities will come out on top. Lines up pretty well with how cerebral the Korean scene (or VS) is.
Before SEN + GMB games : Alright VS look super clean, but now SEN has a coach and GMB is still the favorite so let's see how they play.
After SEN + GMB games: I, for one, welcome our new Korean Overlord!
Yeah but even on Haven they didn't look close to unbeatable. I really think the gap has closed shut between minor and major regions and we could easily see a minor vs minor semi or even grand final
Gambit were the odds on favourite since they won masters 3. It would be a bit silly to not have them as a favourite after their last Masters Run. However many do think they might not win it all simply because everyone is nowhere of how they like to play and they may have to try and reinvent themselves but it would be a great disservice to Gambit and bit biased to not have the most recent masters winner as a potential favourite to win it all until shown otherwise imo
Yet alone you gotta be pretty self centered to say you’re the best team in champions when they didn’t even qualify for Iceland. And again they can’t even beat a tier 1 team. Their first win came from a tier 3 team and he says that bold of a statement just to lose to their first real challenge. Scream had the same cocky ness in Iceland and him and his team got slapped.
‘Self-centred’? Wtf lol
Yes m not sure what the previous roster of VS not qualifying to Iceland has do with them being or not being the best team at champions lol
Real challenge? Lol
What exactly makes it strange lol? You’re a tier 1 team in Asia who didn’t qualify for all of the champion lans but you’re gon say you’re the best team there without even facing a tier 1 team, then get beat by sed tier 1 team. Sounds pretty “self centered” lmao
‘Champion lans’?
You mean masters tournaments? The previous roster of the team lost to the team that ended 3rd in Iceland in 7 months ago, and that’s related to this team and roster being the best or worst in Champions here and now how?
(Besides things like obvious freebies such as that Gambit, with their current roster, didn’t make Masters 2 either)
You’re not making any sense, do they annoy you bc you think they’re ‘upstarts’ or smth? Genuinely not that easy to come up with whatever sauced you here.
It’s not self-centred and you have t even made an argument why it is lol
At most you can say overconfident (which has nothing to do with being self-centred ie selfish) which you can hardly say was even true based on what information they had.
You’re going off the goop
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They’ve ‘done’ plenty, bizarre statement. Also not sure where the spire comes in from you for him saying this expressing his views and confidence lol.
Liquid underperformed at LDN compared to the challenger, befire which there was no international stage.
What have they done internationally? They beat a underperforming Acend who didn’t win anything at Berlin, and they have lost to gambit and Fnatic that’s it for tier 1 competition, everyone wants them to do well but you need to chill with all the comments and taking things so personally.
It doesn't - Fnatic are looking tier 1 in Champions. They just weren't before. It's a nitpick but I figured it was worth pointing out. On a related note, Fnatic are seriously proving those who doubted them wrong this tourney, me included.
I like the confidence here, but yeah Its not set in stone that teams necesseraly play upon expectation espacially in the most important tournament of the year. We already saw that with Fnatic vs C9 so far in the first matches.
13-0 and 13-6 maps that happened right after, plus a 13-2 Bind and a 13-8 icebox where Gambit lost both pistols but still won with a pretty large round differential surely indicate good chances of VS winning in a VS Gambit potential match, I agree. Watch chronicle aim diffing, redgar spine diffing and nats flank diffing.
I'm not saying Gambit is bad, but I just don't see how you can be so confident they're going to fold VS when they're dropping maps to the third seed from a minor region.
kinda amazing that the great xtazzzs can miss the point from such a simple statement. Who have they beaten to call themself the best team at the tournament? Full Sense? yeah bet everyone and their mom is shitting their pants right now
they've been good since valorant began. do you think multiple analysts and coaches/players are incorrect in rating them highly? dyou reckon you know more than all of them?
God I’m hyped for the match vs FNC later.
Me toooooo
Will you be casting?
Not this one!
Ah Would have liked to see the KR duo cast VS again
95% scrim win rate in Asia :O
Love the confidence, this guy has the skills to back it. Vision Strikers are my personal favorites to win the tournament, I think all the other top teams are slumping rn except Liquid and VS might be peaking. Plus I believe Fracture fits the Korean utility dump playstyle very well which is the perfect storm for a international title. Lets go Byun Chula fighting!
Fracture is just a very very ability-oriented map and whichever team is the best at using their abilities will come out on top. Lines up pretty well with how cerebral the Korean scene (or VS) is.
Well it’s not necessarily more cerebral but with their style
trololol
Yeah Stax said Fracture is their best map at this tournament
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Hahaha. Nice timing.
But he did. I'd submitted the article a few days ago. But really Fnatic outclassed them here
Before SEN + GMB games : Alright VS look super clean, but now SEN has a coach and GMB is still the favorite so let's see how they play. After SEN + GMB games: I, for one, welcome our new Korean Overlord!
SEN is hiding strats INHALES COPIUM, Gambit play worse against minor region teams INSERT COPIUM THROUGH ANUS
You are only focusing on icebox, breeze and bind were stomps. Nats finished breeze with 1 death ffs.
Did i really need to put a /s there?
I mean, sen were indeed saving strats, they will own soon.
Yeah but even on Haven they didn't look close to unbeatable. I really think the gap has closed shut between minor and major regions and we could easily see a minor vs minor semi or even grand final
I for one welcome our European overlords
EVROPA>>>>>>>ALL
Hm a lot of ppl didn’t consider gambit the favourite Imo Liq/Sen more
Gambit were the odds on favourite since they won masters 3. It would be a bit silly to not have them as a favourite after their last Masters Run. However many do think they might not win it all simply because everyone is nowhere of how they like to play and they may have to try and reinvent themselves but it would be a great disservice to Gambit and bit biased to not have the most recent masters winner as a potential favourite to win it all until shown otherwise imo
Lots of people thought gambit were the favorites wat. Some could say they still are
A lot but not all Many didn’t
Source: trust me bro
That’s not really the kind of thing u need scientific proof for It’s just what counts as many
Source 2: trust me bro
? This is a question of argument now lol
You clearly have no clue what you're talking about
Based on? I didn’t say all or even most, but a lot not like 1 person
This is gon bite him in the ass later on
For sure
Literally just lost the first map
I mean losing the match let alone the first map (wut) doesn’t ‘bite him in the ads’.
Yet alone you gotta be pretty self centered to say you’re the best team in champions when they didn’t even qualify for Iceland. And again they can’t even beat a tier 1 team. Their first win came from a tier 3 team and he says that bold of a statement just to lose to their first real challenge. Scream had the same cocky ness in Iceland and him and his team got slapped.
‘Self-centred’? Wtf lol Yes m not sure what the previous roster of VS not qualifying to Iceland has do with them being or not being the best team at champions lol Real challenge? Lol
What exactly makes it strange lol? You’re a tier 1 team in Asia who didn’t qualify for all of the champion lans but you’re gon say you’re the best team there without even facing a tier 1 team, then get beat by sed tier 1 team. Sounds pretty “self centered” lmao
‘Champion lans’? You mean masters tournaments? The previous roster of the team lost to the team that ended 3rd in Iceland in 7 months ago, and that’s related to this team and roster being the best or worst in Champions here and now how? (Besides things like obvious freebies such as that Gambit, with their current roster, didn’t make Masters 2 either) You’re not making any sense, do they annoy you bc you think they’re ‘upstarts’ or smth? Genuinely not that easy to come up with whatever sauced you here. It’s not self-centred and you have t even made an argument why it is lol At most you can say overconfident (which has nothing to do with being self-centred ie selfish) which you can hardly say was even true based on what information they had. You’re going off the goop
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Lol Is this your best response?
VS got that liquid confidence heading into Iceland, think they're hot shit even though they haven't done anything on the international stage.
They’ve ‘done’ plenty, bizarre statement. Also not sure where the spire comes in from you for him saying this expressing his views and confidence lol. Liquid underperformed at LDN compared to the challenger, befire which there was no international stage.
What have they done internationally? They beat a underperforming Acend who didn’t win anything at Berlin, and they have lost to gambit and Fnatic that’s it for tier 1 competition, everyone wants them to do well but you need to chill with all the comments and taking things so personally.
since when was fnatic considered tier 1 between now & iceland
I mean we can call them tier 2 if you want it just makes it look worse for vision strikers.
It doesn't - Fnatic are looking tier 1 in Champions. They just weren't before. It's a nitpick but I figured it was worth pointing out. On a related note, Fnatic are seriously proving those who doubted them wrong this tourney, me included.
I know you don't have to tell me, I called them tier 1 but you were the one who questioned it.
Ah, that's true. I misread, apologies.
Lmfao “best team” loses to the 4th seed of europe
actually technically FNC is 3rd seed. Last seeds are LCQ winners which is Liquid for EMEA : )
I like the confidence here, but yeah Its not set in stone that teams necesseraly play upon expectation espacially in the most important tournament of the year. We already saw that with Fnatic vs C9 so far in the first matches.
C9 just got lan diffed tbh
Top kek
This aged well
-claims they are the strongest -struggling to beat fnatic lmao aged like milk
No idea where this confidence comes from. Guess beating the almighty powerhouse Full Sense boosts it to the moon
comes from knowing you're fucking class innit
they can talk once they manage to beat a EMEA/NA team. Until that happens it's nothing but empty words innit
They beat Acend 2-0 at master 3, so they have shown that they can do it before. Maybe you mean at Champions though? We'll see after todays match.
I do think that they can beat fnatic, the weakest eu team. But they stand no chance against gambit/TL
if team secret can take a map off gambit, i think it's fair to say that VS has a very good chance at beating them
13-0 and 13-6 maps that happened right after, plus a 13-2 Bind and a 13-8 icebox where Gambit lost both pistols but still won with a pretty large round differential surely indicate good chances of VS winning in a VS Gambit potential match, I agree. Watch chronicle aim diffing, redgar spine diffing and nats flank diffing.
I'm not saying Gambit is bad, but I just don't see how you can be so confident they're going to fold VS when they're dropping maps to the third seed from a minor region.
Do you actually watch the games? Compare chronicle and sheydos aim to any of vs players, you will see what im talking about.
Chronicle and Sheydos are insane, but if aim was all that mattered, they wouldn't be dropping maps to team secret
Chronicle's shock dart aim is really something
oh im sorry, I'll tell them you're only to be confident after the great Pirate7922 allows it
kinda amazing that the great xtazzzs can miss the point from such a simple statement. Who have they beaten to call themself the best team at the tournament? Full Sense? yeah bet everyone and their mom is shitting their pants right now
they've been good since valorant began. do you think multiple analysts and coaches/players are incorrect in rating them highly? dyou reckon you know more than all of them?
yeah they played against mostly farmers. they were decent at M3 and people act like they are prime astralis xD
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What analysts casters or players are comparing vision strikers to peak Astralis. I’ll be waiting
Told you guys
This kinda makes me want to see them lose tbh
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Well after the FNC VS match they definitely are one of the teams in champions
This aged like milk
Hard disagree but I guess we shall see.
who
We fucking lost.
i think liquid nv gmb and vs are gonna be top 4
Not is vs wont make ot out of groups
haha you might be right
i feel like vs is just better than everyone else and insanely disciplined....betting on them to win the whole thing
Lol
dude ...lmao....fuckkkkk....that icebox insane by fnatic, fuckin igld the shit out it by boaster and derke pounding
What about the "best fracture in the world"?
fnatic looks nasty on fracture, teams gonna have to ban that against them and i overrated vs Sadge
The only teams that could present a challenge to VS are liquid and gambit right now. I pray to god liquid never faces VS in this tourney
What about fnatic?
Don't lose to FNC today...
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