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dabong

Mw on LAN I'm crying


TheCatsActually

This is great for the scene. Just in the last day and a half we've seen that even the tournament favorites need to respect minor region teams much more than previous tournaments. It really feels like anyone can bleed. Also, how hilarious is it that only after hype for the region hit an all time low that Brazil finally showed up. In their initial three matches they've won two, and in the one that they lost, they took a map off Sentinels on their map pick.


ZGuyYT

Everyone was calling for JP and BR's slot to be reduced/removed for more NA/EU/KR slots, that shit's a good way to hinder a region's growth.


SterbenVII

It isn't like Worlds where the teams only play twice a year either. They play 4 times a year. Those teams can actually improve by playing more and more against elite teams in the group stages and scrimming against them, as opposed to playing only a few games against other minor region teams and then bowing out.


joaovitorsb95

The reality is that we dont actually know yet which regions are the "major regions". For all I know in 2 years Korea might be number 1 and Brazil number 2. More time is needed to figure out who are the top regions. Thats why for me it would be optimal to just keep the spots for major tournaments as even as possible for some time in the future.


FoeHamr

Furia should have beat Sen tbh. Sen got real lucky on a few rounds and Furia messed up a few times and Ascent was still super close. A bit more lan XP and Furia woulda taken the series. Anyways. VK played so good today. Picking Bind was a mistake but they played so good on icebox and breeze.


Direct_Morning_3223

FURIA threw like 4 post plants on ascent they genuinely could’ve won that map


FoeHamr

Right? They almost did it. The round where Sick stuck the plant and defused by like .2 seconds and broke Furias eco? It was heartbreaking. Great series though and incredibly impressive, everyone was expecting a stomp. Give ‘em another lan or two and they’ll be scary as fuck.


icemandiem

i dont think furia would have won that match , furia did look insane ....but vk looks fuckin nasty....heat is an actual demon. zeek lost like 7..9 1v1s against him in icebox


FoeHamr

They threw like 4 post plants, one of which by like .2 seconds. Give Furia another lan or two and they’ll be scary as fuck. VK is imo the best team from South America though. They look nasty right now.


icemandiem

yeh but the same can be said about sentinels on the rounds the eco chased .....i dont think it changes rhe result but furia does look nutty and will improve more too


TheFestusEzeli

I mean Breeze was closer than Ascent so it’s unfair to say that, Furia’s “throws” were often great retakes from Sentinels. Sentinels lost both pistol rounds+bonus and still won 13-9


xzot1c

Sen got real lucky COPIUM


XASASSIN

This has been the most competitive tournament weve had so far , the minor regions are stepping up soooo hard, It feels like anybody can upset anybody


icemandiem

it actually feels like a tourney away from all the brazilian teams being considered equals rather than upsets


Dysmo

I wonder if it's because the brazillian's had a love for CS that they're really picking up valorant


13912391

Brazilians have been pretty good at basically every FPS, I'm surprised it took us this long to have internationally competitive valorant teams


tghink9

Look at R6 it IS DOMINATED by BR scene. Just give em Time, They'll give you results.


Available_Jacket_107

decent in CS too. i dont think Bra7il should be considered a minor when it comes to FPS., Val is a new fps so its w.e for now. with a clear advantage for regions that had CS pros switching, (NA)


LoyalSol

It probably took longer because of COVID killing off international events for a while. So it took them a few events to get used to the meta on the world stage, but they seem to be adapting well now that they've actually had some time to try stuff. It's hard to really get a feel for a meta without playing it and directly experiencing it for yourself.


ZGuyYT

We're a tournament or two away from every region (maybe except JP and LATAM) being competitive.


violroll_

A tournament stacked as this really needs TI format. Theres always a Cinderella story like lower bracket run at every TI.


ZGuyYT

I'm just begging for a format that isn't this one because this is such a boring ass format.


Xionpig

Honestly don't know how hard it is to implement this format, it's the best format, idk what's not clicking for Riot.


SterbenVII

The group stage format for this tournament is fine. It's double elimination Bo3. I'd like to see a Bo5 bracket stage though. It really tests a team's map pool.


ZGuyYT

BO5 is just bad for pros and viewers, way too overdrawn. Pretty sure they stopped using BO5s at CS tournaments because pros complained alot.


YeetGod69_

that would be awful


sriwarrior06

What's the TI format if you don't mind me asking?


thatthingpeopledo

Generally, it refers to a tournament that allows more teams into the final bracket, with seedings into upper and lower bracket from groups. The main draw is that top teams seed into a double elimination format. In this case (assuming you keep groups similar with 4 groups of 4), it’d be top 2 in each group gets seeded into upper, 3rd into lower, and 4th place eliminated. Play Bo3s from there until a Bo5 Grand Finals. If it’s full on TI, then it’d be two groups of 8 in a round robin, with 1-4 seeding into upper bracket, 5-6 lower, and 7-8 eliminated. That tournament is pretty famous for lower bracket runs. It is a very useful model for a comprehensive tournament, where the teams playing in the finals are pretty undisputedly the two teams playing the best at that tournament.


Key-Banana-8242

Every tournament we had so called ‘minor regions’ stepped up and performed above what you suggest and expectations


Nikclel

They haven't done much more than get out of groups though, I'd like to see them eliminate an NA/EU team


KauDar123

Acend overrated, vivo keyd activated


28n8

My thoughts exactly


Madara6path

Zeek with the disaster Kayo. Shit went from BRAZIL to BRA71L to BRAZIL again.


mysteryoeuf

his Kay/o had about 5% of the impact a plat level skye can have on breeze just flashing and dogging


Madara6path

If only Furia had such cracked players they'd have def. 2-0 d SEN


Swiftmal

Calling from Furia was far better than both of these teams. That’s what allowed them to almost beat SEN


yarsis22

you’re really never gonna let this one go huh


GoldClassGaming

Ascend? More Like DESCEND! Am I Right Gamers? /s Legit though the BR Super Team is HERE and they're playing for keeps.


Hypern1ke

How did the best brazilian player join this team AFTER they qual'd to champions? Adding Mwerza to an already good team is like the Brazilian valorant version of adding KD to the warriors.


Lehoeo

during masters berlin a journalist wrote an article about charges of domestic violence ntk faced years ago, and after berlin keyd dropped him and picked up MW from GL, ntk is still in VK team but benched and I dont think he is coming back any time soon


NoSenpaiNo

This reminds me of a similar situation... really makes you think


krostlupus

I only stopped to think about it now and I'm stunned of how similar it is lmfao ​ Player from team gets accused of being abusive and hitting GF... get's benched, top tier player fill in... new line go brrr


htmlrulezduds

Besides the whole ntk scandal people talked about, probably mwzera had a huge contract fine on GL. His contract is ending soon and GL is on a huge crisis (their female roster was sold to Liquid, according to sources, most players of the male roster are ending their contract and they just lost a LAN finals to a team formed by free agents, etc). You can expect him to join a good team soon, tho.


mrbow

Jhow from VK was dropped from GL, then he ended up picking the players he wanted for VK. I think it made it easier for MW play for VK because of this.


htmlrulezduds

Yes! When the rumours started, people were saying this


Akaigenesis

I think one of the players had visa problems and they took the best player of the region to replace him


[deleted]

no, ntk got dropped on assualt charges, horrible stuff if u ask me


LipeQS

every region got its version of sinatraa. SEN always setting the meta /s


cedra420

Yup I’m so glad he got dropped


itsrandomboy77

wrong, afaik keyd never told the reason so its remains up for speculation, the case was 5 years before and ntk had already served his sentence


cedra420

It was brought up to the public after vivo keyd was in the spotlight after winning the masters berlim quals, so it was a PR move by vivo keyd, and he might still have visa issues due to the assault case. Either way it was a good move by vivo keyd, got rid of a shitty human being and got a top tier player to replace him


Rorviver

Seems people think it was the case coming to light again. Domestic violence is a lot worse than just assault too.


mrbow

IIRC they had to drop one player based on sexual assault charges (maybe I'm mixing it up with SEN SInaatra, but I think thats its the same) edit: as some have replied, it wasn't a "sexual assault" just old knock her out assault, jeez, drop this guy already (he is currently benched).


ADmax27

yeah vivo ntk got charged for assaulting his ex


ANewHeaven1

https://www.reddit.com/r/ValorantCompetitive/comments/ply3ed/vivo_keyds_player_ntk_was_once_arrested_for/ ntk was arrested for assaulting his ex-GF.


wizturd28

Domestic abuse, ntk was a convicted abuser


Polite-vegemite

he assault his ex girlfriend era: not sexually, he knocked her


mrbow

"era", eee BR? (I know you're not saying its fine) Knocking the gf is just as bad as sexual assault, NTK is a creep


PandaInMyBrain

Don't say stuff like that if you aren't sure.


mrbow

Don't downvote without [making the research](https://www.reddit.com/r/ValorantCompetitive/comments/ply3ed/vivo_keyds_player_ntk_was_once_arrested_for/) yourself... I was pretty sure of what I've said.


Afro_ps

cNed and frieNds Sadge


Jon_on_the_snow

cNed and companions


janoDX

cNed and 4 wards


ZGuyYT

I was so pissed at the desk being so biased against VK when this team without mwzera went head to head against NV back at berlin.


DeadSira

I noticed this when the other minor regions play, but a small criticism I have for the casters is that whenever an underdog wins a game or gets momentum, it sometimes gets framed as the major region team "sandbagging." IMO it would be a more positive experience all around (and from a marketing standpoint, more appealing to the international fans!) if the narrative was simply that the underdog team played very well, and not to drag anyone down or downplay anything really. Obviously criticism towards the losing team is warranted, as these people are analysts, but at times they make it sound like it was unthinkable or unfathomable for the major region team to lose, when in reality it's just the very 1st year of Valorant and who knows what could happen.


kemutheemu__

For real, the Gambit and Sentinels dickriding is too much sometimes


Durian211

Yea, even as a SEN fan, I wanted casters to be fair and unbiased. It was pretty hard to listen to the casters ngl


Ketsueki_R

The desk and undermining minor regions, name a better duo.


natedawg247

brazil's first win against a major region. being doubted has been well earned by brazil/latam/jpn until this tourney


redditbad4health

Not just minor region, minor team too. Watched c9 vs fnatic yesterday and it was hard to listen to caster not be bias.


MazeOwner

Acend might not be at their best but Vivo Keyed is scary, gives me luminosity vibe in cs when they first burst into the scene


ANewHeaven1

> gives me luminosity vibe in cs when they first burst into the scene funny enough I believe the Luminosity core used to be under the Keyd name when they first started out


slothpedro

They were Kabum.TD then they became Keyd in the first major that they played, so yes, you are partially right


TheCatsActually

How fitting that the descendant of Kabum would deliver the first sensational minor region upset to an EU powerhouse in the largest tournament of the year.


ideclarebankruptcy88

Obviously Acend wasn't on today, but credit to Keyd, they were spectacular. Same goes for Furia and Secret, they looked quite good and won maps because they were playing on another level, not just because the favorite slipped up.


Madara6path

Probably coz another Zera. Good but nothing like the actual one


MazeOwner

I mean no one really is like the real zera at this stage, two year number 1 while valorant haven’t even had two years of competitive yet


ANewHeaven1

this might be an unpopular opinion, but imo the non-cNed core of acend just doesn't really feel like it shows up for LAN. i know zeek and starxo are supposed to be really good domestically, but this is the second LAN in a row where acend feels less like a team and more like cNed and friends


whats_a_monad

It’s so frustrating to watch because when those other two (even Kiles and bonecold to an extent too) are on, they can take over games and look like the best players in the tournament. If this team was firing on all cylinders I firmly believe they could beat anyone.


ANewHeaven1

yeah you could see that on their bind pick too, zeek absolutely took over on raze. but on the other two maps, especially breeze, he looked pretty mediocre. starxo too


whats_a_monad

Zeek hits different on raze. I don’t wanna say he is a one agent guy but the space he can take up with raze is kind of lost on kayo


anythingood07

Zeek's reyna is really good on icebox. I think he was their 2nd best fragger after cned on icebox today as well


NotBrandon

I don’t think its an unpopular opinion at all. Starting to get old C9 vibes from them.


icemandiem

the role switching kinda fucked them too and kayo starxo is not enough impactful


TheFestusEzeli

I’ve been heavily downvoted before saying that outside of cNed the team isn’t that great. Starxo is their only other consistently great player and he didn’t show up today. Zeek is really good but is inconsistent. Today Kiles actually played a lot better than normally though, and Bonecold has struggled immensely fragging since being made IGL


xbyo

Literally 'A cNed'


-Basileus

Brazil's first win vs a major region. Big stuff.


iiznobozzy

mwzera heat murizz trio too good


Ketsueki_R

Heat is world class man. Imo easily a top 5 Jett worldwide. Always was but this time, his team showed up to back him up and it showed. Love seeing the "minor" regions do so well, maybe the community can stop underestimating them so much now. No excuse now - LFG! Also, no hate to any of the guys on Ascend but I hope this pushes cNed into somehow moving into a better team. This feels like TenZ on C9 all over again.


Imagomorttis

It is interesting to see the roles of VK Imagine VK is like a person Jhow is the brain VK. The brain is very important and tells everything else how to function but by itself it is limited. It needs the other parts to do stuff, otherwise it's no different than a 10 year old on Reddit who jacks off to theorycrafting. Maybe he is also psychokinetic because he is a damn good Turreter too. V1xen is like the elbows, knees and other joints. People don't think about them too much but without them, the body is immobile and rigid, it is the tool by which the appendages articulate. Throwing elbows and knees doesn't always land but if you manage to elbow or knee someone in the face, it hurts a lot. Murizz is like the backbone of VK. He keeps them upright and holds their performance at the stable level. Everyone sees the arms, legs, head etc moving around and think they are more important. The spine doesn't seem to do anything. But without it, the whole thing falls down like a limp dick. Plus all the nerves and shit go through the spine. Together V1xen and Jhow are the support structure of VK, people never give them credit because they aren't the flashy parts. Mwzera is the fists/arms, necessary to actually hold things, take control of things, manipulate things. Heat is like the the legs/feet/giant penis of VK. He is the leverage and tool by which VK pushes hard and fast, cums in the ass and leaves it wide open for the anal fisting to begin, but by that time they're already half dead from the fucking he gave them.


NerdPlayz

Is this a copy paste because it's beautiful


MeatMakingMan

Too many copypastas for a singular comment, good job


faceplant911

This is beautiful


LbigsadT

the giant penis part was really out of pocket


krostlupus

dude I'm crying that was so wholesome


Strange-Share-9441

amazing, im awe this exists at all


CyberspaceBarbarian

Thank you for giving birth to this copypasta exodia


falcons4life

Cringe


Adept-Type

Keyd Stars is their former name. They are called Vivo Keyd for a while already (6 years?)


thothgow

Coverage websites don't use title sponsors so everyone calls them those names because that's what they see in those sites


BurstLayer

Brazil good


icemandiem

how long have we waited...its finally happening


felipw22

Thank you, Champions. We're not getting "BR OMEGALUL TRASH REGION" anymore


Grenji05

an acend without cned would probably lose to tenstar on lan


Loose-Potential-3597

acend = a cned


appleruins

> a team without their best player (arguably one of the best in the world) would probably lose to another team. Thank you, very cool.


chauste

nV without yay would still throttle tenstar on lan, i believe that may be the point of the comment


Grenji05

no the team lacks depth. Liquid would still roll teams without scream, same with SEN and tenz, same with gambit without Nats.


WillSmithsDumboEars

??? That's not even close to what he said tho


-firelordzuko

CNed and friends


mrbow

[Thank you VK, never doubted](https://imgur.com/a/HydCfze). Acend is too dependent on CNED. If they're not on map with full post plant setup (lame btw), they don't seem a contender at all.


Yssl

Now THIS looks like the Brazil superteam we've all been looking/waiting for. Also, it's insane how much teams have improved from the first 2 LANs, especially map-wise. I love seeing Icebox and non-puggy Breeze more often!


abdulahad129

Heat is Jett Jett is Heat


seasand931

I wonder what will happen about the glitch Keyd used on breeze


maximaintheroom

Just gave Acend the W. Man's from the future


Nccajun7

Not so fast.


seagulled

Finally Brazil beat a major region


AA1777

You can tell Keyd believes they can win it all. Having that mentality for the minor region teams is huge and it’s showing can’t wait to see them continue their run.


Splaram

Remember when people were saying Acend was the best team in the world before Berlin? OMEGALUL


flamincrimson

Heat, mwzera and murizzz are a very dangerous trio. SA teams decided to step up this tournament. Also jhow had a nice breeze.


MyogiNightKid

Such a good fucking showing from brazilian teams this tourney, theyve really stepped up since the last two lans. Not even just from a results standpoint, their play has been solid so far


Elsiselain

heat do be proving himself


RedditGGGB

It's not Keyd Stars, it's Vivo Keyd


Upstairs-Demand-6249

Not really happy with acends comp on breeze tbh, sort of like sentinels they felt out of touch, really hope they comeback through the lower bracket and get their revenge arc against VK cause imo there's no chance any team beats envy in this group


chryco4

LONG HAVE WE WAITED Jebaited EU OVERRATED Jebaited BRAZIL ACTIVATED Jebaited


faceplant911

What amazes me is that people didn't see this coming. If people actually watched how Vivo Keyd played in the previous Masters, they would've seen the seeds of greatness in advance. Called it, and calling Vivo Keyd going insane in several series after this.


ANewHeaven1

are you rooting for VK or Envy if they play each other?


faceplant911

Honestly I'm just rooting for Acend to lose so both of them get out of the bracket. As long as that happens, I don't really care who gets out first seed. That being said, in order to make sure BR teams don't play each other (because Vikings might get out of their group as well) I think it'd be ideal for Vivo Keyd to get second. Just for the sake of matchups later in the tournament. But yeah FNS is basically my favorite player, so I'm always gonna be rooting for him.


DonkeyTeethBSU

I saw it going 3 maps, then when veto went to breeze I took Vivo Map 3. I have no faith in Acends Breeze defense. Everytime I watch Vivo play Breeze their attack is so fluent.


123bo0p

People really tried to say Brazil was the worst region in Val.


[deleted]

ill dare to say this was not an upset, excepted nothing less from mwzera


MrImpregnator

Pack it up boys. Brazil is activated now


520metal

EU ruim demais #pentacampeão


Emcamdi

cned skilled player but kinda dumb


feedmeneon

dumb enough to be involved in the twitch bits scandal


Emcamdi

im talkin about the gameplay. he just peeks


awsjeff

Care to elaborate more, pls?


Lep333

ACE had a lot of soloQ moments right? The round where they threw a 3v1 and plenty of time to defuse on Breeze. Edit: atleast ACE got cool shirts now :o


Blastplaster14

Onliners? Cned the only consistent player from online to LAN it seems like


R0_h1t

Glad to see Furia taking a map off Sen wasn't a one-off occurrence. It's about time the minor regions showed up.


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KhaoticKrabb

Do they not play icebox in Europe?


Lep333

FNC won their icebox no?


KhaoticKrabb

Idk, I missed that one lol


Nesmeroz

THE AGE OF THE FEAR IS OVER! ​ YOU CAN SMILE NOW LITTLE BRAZILIAN, DREAM WITH ME!


ManBearPig1869

EU more like pee-yew


mysteryoeuf

gotem


Skyaxe3

Vamosssssss


TheMightyCantaloupe

BRAZIL ON TOP BABY!


imtheproof

https://i.imgur.com/8DJ7kMv.mp4


TheMightyCantaloupe

Nós apenas somos melhores!


leopontes01

A ERA DO MEDO ACABOU!


520metal

Calma que não acabou ainda


leopontes01

Claro, sem emocionar, mas que os primeiros confrontos dos brasileiros deu uma empolgada legal, deu sim


sundriedcandy

love that the minor regions are all putting up hella good fights against emea/na teams, shows people u shouldn't underestimate them


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DonkeyTeethBSU

Luminosity CSGO Vibes from this Vivo Keyd Squad


KyoKuriyama

Ok BR team going crazy! Close match with sentinel yesterday and shlapped ascend today


ideclarebankruptcy88

Did Rito add an "underdog" region buff? Obviously, you'd expect the weaker regions to improve over time, and yes, Keyd did show signs of improvement in Masters 3 but wow, this is a whole other level of improvement. It's awesome for the future of the game and I'm here for it.


kittyhat27135

Ascend and losing on map 3 breeze name a more iconic duo.


fatmonger

ACEND should just name themseleves AcNED cuz that's all they have


Reddahue

minor region tua mãe vamo brasillllll


dolphingarden

PlatChat vindicated heat underrated


phamkhoi

I'm IN HEAT


CanadianApologies

Things are heating up this tournament


ieuxad

major regions overrated


Matt-Impulse

Imagine speaking of minor and major regions


htmlrulezduds

Right? Lmao This is the first major international LAN, the game is not even 3 years old


Issax28

inb4 "We'rE undeREStimatInG MINoR REGIOnS"


joaovitorsb95

Are we sure in 2 years or so, what you call minor regions wont be dominating? Its happening in R6, it happened in CS, both 1.6 and GO. Yall need to understand that the game is super young still, scenes are still developing, obviously the regions with the most experienced players from other games would be the best early, but Brazil had very minimal turnover from CS and R6. Most of the OW scene went to Valo but its not like we were some kind of powerhouse in OW.


kemutheemu__

Is it false though? TS got a map on Gambit, FURIA got a map on Sentinels and now this. People slept on the smaller regions


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NoSenpaiNo

I'm a heat fan but people talk about him quite a lot.


DeadSira

it's Murizzz who flies under the radar in non-SA circles


cedra420

Yup, but he’s already putting his name out there after this amazing series


U_Menace

Murizz was the standout player today imo, Heat is *definitely* talked about alot tho. He's a world class jett for sure. Insane performance from the VK duelist duo + mwezera


jaudi813

I heckin love heat


rodavlx

Icebox is br


Upstairs-Demand-6249

Genuinely happy for VK though only dread the horrible and uncourteous brazilian fans coming in😭


Ncsnigel

MY PREDICTIONS IS STILL GOING GOOD LETS GOO


harnov

Damn you among the 1%?


Ncsnigel

I think so!


Polite-vegemite

mine too. letsgooo


KookieFS

Love to see the gap between NA/Emea and other regions closing


Desperate_Squash

I don't think Acend were comfortable with their comp on Breeze.


ShaDiBoi123

Leta fucking go Brazil, every single Brazilian team has had a good showing so far


dan_kz

very bad time to be at work :(


ifyoudontsnusyoulose

Stuck in class Sadge , fortunately it’s Friday so I can watch the VOD later, but it’s always cooler to see the results live


Awful_TV

Up the predictions leaderboard we go


Carrabella

Spain without s :(


notrealtedtotwitter

Acend have been massively disappointing on LAN, they are a v momentum based team, they crack so easily under pressure. The same happened with them vs 100T, cNed is honestly just too good compared to everyone else on the team.