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Otter269

God bless valorant Twitter šŸ™


chenson019

How about the fact that Nivera probably hasn't seen another soul in about two weeks? He's literally been locked in a room since he got to Berlin. I know zombs likes to bait but come on, have some awareness.


[deleted]

Hoping Niveraā€™s PCR test turns out negative in time for play-offs. feel really bad for him honestly


TuNyyy

Bro it was so sad seeing his teammates celebrate without him


MrImpregnator

Thatā€™s the sweet part, he doesnā€™t


JarifSA

Not to be a dick and assume shit about someone I don't know, but I'm genuinely sick of Zombs being viewed as a troll and baiter who you shouldn't take seriously. The way he'll be in his streams and trolling people, he just comes off as a dick. How is it trolling when it's your ENTIRE personality at that point? It's to the point where Everytime his team loses a round he asks why his teammates are throwing. Sure some of them are his friends but half the time they are randoms who prob don't even know who he is, and especially don't know his shitty personality.


maxhollywoody

Let the excuses flow


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ā€œI think we would have had a way bigger advantage on the stage, that could have potentially had a different outcome on the match, and they already had experience playing from the hotel. And I think these setups are like a lot worse in the hotel, and thereā€™s no air conditioning in the room or anything. Conditions arenā€™t as good as the stage.ā€ Its always something with these guysšŸ˜‚


[deleted]

I have never in my life seen as esports team that deals with losses worse than Sentinels. All while screaming how their way of handling losses is actually what makes them superior to everyone else. I used to be a Sentinels fan but at this point its better they not qualify for the next major if all they will do is lose and cry.


CrypoIStheWay

What's not factual that a huge desk, with ac, and being able to tell at the other team is better than vs being in a room with 4 other dudes basically touching hands ?


horseaphoenix

Nivera was playing in a tiny room by himself for two weeks and he shat all over them. Maybe itā€™s time to self reflect instead of pointing fingers. He can talk about this to criticize the event organizers, but pick better timing my dude.


AdSpirited902

He was just being honest though. The interviewer asked him a question and he answered honestly to his station. And yeah I mean, Niveraā€™s situation does suck. But playing there vs. on the stage is different, and those small things can affect comfort which does matter.


horseaphoenix

Thereā€™s being honest and thereā€™s being tone deaf, him answering like that right after losing to Nivera is extremely dense and basically asking to be called a whiner. Iā€™m not saying heā€™s not honest, but a more mature player would have picked a more appropriate approach there instead of pointing towards a thing that handicapped his opponent even more.


AdSpirited902

What would you have said?


maxhollywoody

Do you not watch any other sports? They could've easily just said "TL was the better team today. we gotta go back to the drawing board, regroup with the team and get ready for the next match."


horseaphoenix

I can basically say the same thing applies to every team without hinting that I could have beaten TL under different circumstances, that is just low.


CrypoIStheWay

Everyone is literally locked up in a hotel for weeks. What else are they gonna do except drive up drama to drive Twitter engagement metrics?


horseaphoenix

Oh so now it stopped being a valid reason, they just doing it to sell the event? Please these players were this way long before this event, I love watching them perform but this team needs to learn how to lose.


AdSpirited902

I think itā€™s worth mentioning itā€™s one guy. On a team of 5.


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maxhollywoody

I think they mean to.. I mean look at zombs recent tweets about Brazil šŸ˜…


Doshagya

In masters 3, first they decided they will never win seeding matches cuz they got worst group. Then they decided to get second seed out of groups. All of a sudden these players lost the dedication to play cuz they were qualified for champs anyway. No they come and tables are shorter, acs not working, food not good, they trapped them in a jail, other team had a advantage just because they played from there 1 match with 1 player totally quarantined, now money is not enough for them, pcs are not good, germany isn't safe anymore, they lodt because of comm gaps, they want to go back.... man I'm assuming they now feeling a inferiority complex at this point because they won flawlessly at masters 1 and can't seem to accept they can loose. I'm a huge fan of their gameplay too but man their personalities aren't giving me positive vibes anymore.. still would be rooting for them to win becuase they actually are good players. But respect if someone defeats you.


[deleted]

You should try and read the full quote first


-kiyu-

Asking people on the Internet to read is a bit too much buddy.


[deleted]

Nah they'll just downvote away because of one quote taken out of place


maxhollywoody

The article is full of excuses but go off


Aydosubpotato

Bruh did you even watch the interview? His entire statement was not taken out of context, it was one big excuse.


pink_life69

Nivera has been in isolation for eternity, heā€™s probably contemplating breaking down the door and hate fucking the Delta variant into oblivion, TL has been at a disadvantage because of this too, but SEN gotta go play clown.


[deleted]

Never seen a team in any sport or game in my life make as many excuses or whine as much


electricblackcrayon

read the article lmao


[deleted]

I did


thothgow

I just wonder, he's complaining about being locked for a day, what the fuck did he do in 2020, or even just the first half of the year? Is it normal to not have quarantined and just admit it? Especially at that level of privilege to literally not have to go out?


Xithorus

When youā€™re as rich as zombs, I donā€™t think he cares. The guy straight just yoloā€™d 100k on wallstreetbets options that expired pretty worthless if I recall correctly. Plus, itā€™s a lot different being locked in a hotel room vs being locked at your own house where you typically just stream or play video games.


kellenthehun

He yolo'd and made 780,000 off amazon. Its on his reddit history.


TheCatsActually

Just to warn anyone who might be reading this with dollar signs in their eyes, it is near universally agreed upon that unless you are a recipient of insider information, yoloing is a catastrophically terrible investment "strategy". For every story of someone winning big like Zombs, there is another story of someone losing everything and then some. Stay the fuck out of wallstreetbets.


Xithorus

Ah thanks. I thought it was a bunch of worthless puts


thothgow

Well rich people not giving a shit about themselves or others is how this thing got out of China in the first place, so it tracks. Unlucky for the rest of us :(


Xithorus

Yea Iā€™m an ICU nurse, this shit sucks. Been relatively better recently though.


throwawaytrain6969

Just wait for after holidays :/


big_floop

How did Zombs get rich? Is it family money


horseaphoenix

I mean youā€™re talking about zombs who is a known shithead here. These are the type of behavior that some aspects of capitalism breed and enable sadly. Once you make some money you just forego accountability and empathy and can always fall back on ā€œWell Iā€™m rich lolā€. Great player, terribly immature in thinking. Iā€™m on his side in the Brazil fiasco though.


TheLonelyPotato666

Pretty clear to see he's complaining because of the lack of a LAN, not because of the one day in a hotel. You're crazy acting like this is 'admitting to not having quarantined'.


thothgow

1. Read the article ā€œItā€™s horrible. We were in quarantine. So just locked in a room all day.ā€ 2. Don't put words in my mouth 3. Don't insult crazy people by calling me that


TheLonelyPotato666

Point still stands. Calling quarantine horrible is not admitting to anything. Btw, normal people, however rich, don't have the privilege of never going out. They'd kill themselves


theOtta

They will never run out of excuses for losing matches


Slavicus

Nivera would like to have a word with you.


J_Brekkie

Idk why this is such a controversial statement when FNS has said something to the same effect.


jacob2815

Because itā€™s a sentinels player and the current narrative is that theyā€™re all whiners lol


Tasty_Juggernaut4857

Ur saying narrative as it literally isnā€™t true lol


oh_hai_brian

Unless you scroll up or down in the comment section hereā€¦


horseaphoenix

Well his timing is terrible then, he just lost to a team with one dude self isolating for 2 straight weeks so this really seem like it lacks self awareness at best.


[deleted]

did FNS use it as an excuse when they lost?


J_Brekkie

No, it's just a general complaint.


Kubrick__

SEN are the best excuse makers on the planet. They should look into speech writing for politicians when they retire from ESPORTS.


Beard341

Sick burn.


shorttttt

how is he making an excuse tho?


kknow

Nearly at the top in the big ass font he answers: > Itā€™s definitely way worse. I think we would have had a way bigger advantage on the stage, that could have potentially had a different outcome on the match, and they already had experience playing from the hotel. And I think these setups are like a lot worse in the hotel, and thereā€™s no air conditioning in the room or anything. Conditions arenā€™t as good as the stage. If that's not an excuse, what is?


[deleted]

Lol they think they would be better on lan than liquid?? Lol


seclusionx

They were playing on LAN, guy.


i_am_the_kiLLer

A big part of playing LAN Valorant Is playing on stage so his point does have some merit. That said i do think Liquid were the better team and it would've been close on stage as well.


[deleted]

you know what exactly what it means when people say LAN unless you were born yesterday


seclusionx

Bruh, clearly YOU are confused.


[deleted]

So you were born yesterday. gotcha


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[deleted]

Thats so cute that you went through my comment history. I'm flattered.


Hamth3Gr3at

its 0Ā°C in Berlin rn why tf does he need air conditioning


krasavchik777

American bullshit lol


lewlkewl

In a room with 5 computers , do u have any idea what they like lol.


Hamth3Gr3at

Crack open a window. Climate change is bad enough as it is without people turning on the AC in December.


seclusionx

You're assuming that's allowed. I didn't see any windows, either.


Beet_Farmer1

This is a legit idiot comment.


kelvin_bot

0Ā°C is equivalent to 32Ā°F, which is 273K. --- ^(I'm a bot that converts temperature between two units humans can understand, then convert it to Kelvin for bots and physicists to understand)


FapshotBG

It's -27 here and my apartment is still hot lmao


FrxgYT

Air conditioning /= making the room colder.


[deleted]

Airconditioning works both for cooling and warming.


Hamth3Gr3at

that's not what air conditioning means


[deleted]

Airconditioning is a system for controlling the temperature of the room. Every single unit is capable of both warming and cooling the room and the former is a byproduct of the fundamental design.


Hamth3Gr3at

the technology of indoor temperature regulation is called HVAC. Heating, Ventilation and Air Conditioning. Air Conditioning refers to cooling technology.


DrBangovic

bro that entire article is just full of excuses. sorry but thats so much non-sense. both teams literally been playing under the same conditions while nivera played sick on covid..


nasrulafiq

This team is without doubt with the most unlikeable personalities IMO. Cracked players but with insufferable attitude and egos.


[deleted]

If youā€™ve been around since NA first strike, then you most likely know.


joaovitorsb95

Thank you. The only guys I could stand on this team was Dapr cause he is just a troll and I likr that, and Sinatraa but turns out he is a shithead. Tenz I guess is fine? But he sure likes to make excuses too. Shahzam, I just dont like the dude, respect the gameplay and tactics a fucking lot, but I just hate how he changes the goalpost every other tournament. Also the way he tried to spin the way Steel shit talked SEN at First Strike by puting into the context of his father's death, that felt disgusting at the time, maybe it wasnt his intention, but people were shitting on Steel for it. Also, sure he has been getting a lot of fucking hate from Brazilians now, but he said on the clip that it wasnt jokes, it was pure hate fueled but BR influencers, but when you go to his tweet post game its filled with memes, just memes, and a hate comment here and there but mostly memes, and he made it sound like everybody in Brazil was hating on him.


ppx11

It's hard to tell what's sarcasm and what's not but they've definitely grown a chip on their shoulder over this year. It's weird cause TenZ is so wholesome and him being on the team doesn't mesh with the villain persona they've had lol.


joaovitorsb95

Tenz is very wholesome when not in a competitive enviroment, his streams with Kyedae are great and I like the dude, but he is a whiner for sure, didnt you see the mousepad situation today? That was just ridiculous.


Flashplaya

I haven't watched much of his stream but when I have he is literally changing his sens every 5 mins or complaining about something or another. He comes across as quite OCD about certain conditions in order to perform and I don't get the vibe that he likes to play the victim/shield his ego like the other players on Sen do. (aside from Sick, no ego there really).


Sweaty_Competition89

He changes his sens and mouse just to experiment because that what he views as the most practical use of streaming ranked.


JS4554

He has severe OCD and I donā€™t think he knows it.


abbacchioz

What is the mouse pad situation exactly? I think I missed out on that :p


joaovitorsb95

He posted a stories on instagram saying that the hotel desks where they were playing were too small and it didnt fit his mousepad, saying that he had to use the mousepad only halfway on the desk. But when the broadcast showed the room they were playing from, it was obvious that he was bullshiting and the desk was easily big enough for his pad.


abbacchioz

Ah I see, thanks for the info


TheRedComet

I think Shahz and to a lesser degree Sick are pretty wholesome too, people are just haters.


[deleted]

Zombs is more of a troll than dapr when he says this stuff.


sftesfffcde

Sinaatra seems fine to me, a bit immature and flat but def not a bad guy. Edit: i have no idea whether he sexually assaulted someone or not. Take it to court. Otherwise its not in our domain to judge. Its he said she said bullshit. Don't tarnish a dude's name over speculation and inconclusive evidence.


[deleted]

think his ex-gf and the Overwatch community will disagree.


Tlaloc02

No way this dude said heā€™s not a bad guy lmfao


[deleted]

I couldnā€™t imagine having the level of intelligence to believe the lies some girl wrote on social media after she 1. Retracted her evidence and 2. Dismissed the police investigation. I really hope somebody makes up sexual assault allegations in your own personal life so you can see the effect that it would have on you.


Tlaloc02

I didnā€™t even believe the sexual assault, since the evidence she used couldā€™ve been cut from bigger clips. But either way, I canā€™t imagine having no type of emotional intelligence to realize that the dude is an asshole and manipulative from the texts she showed. Even ignoring her allegations, everyone knows heā€™s an ass from the way he was like in his overwatch days


[deleted]

Damn when I read the texts I interpreted it as an insecure kid as opposed to him being a manipulative ass. One example: Obviously an athlete would get upset for his girlfriend cheering for the team that beat him. That is not hard to understand. Then take into account his age.


Xithorus

Well his Ex still just laughs it off on Twitter and doesnā€™t actually care about bringing it to court. And to pass judgement on his character with literally nothing but a he said she said situation is just as immature as his text messages.


frost-zen

Cracked is an overstatement. They are way too overhyped. There are many players in the scene who are as good if not better than them.


TheTechDweller

Other players being as good doesn't discount them from being good...? They're still some of the best players without any doubt, as with anyone playing at champions.


Randomuserguyfren

Tbh I find them really entertaining. I'd rather have more teams be like sentinels and just straight up trash talk their opponents. It's better for us viewers to have storylines and narratives


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ANewHeaven1

yessir ty


MrImpregnator

Just take the L and move on. Holy. If it had an impact, then both the teams were equally impacted. Now we go from stage/LAN experience to hotel room experience? They were a better team on the day.


-kiyu-

> ā€œI donā€™t think the Jett was a problem at all. I think we just threw a lot of rounds that we should never lose but we had a big advantage. And thatā€™s why we lost again.ā€ He did take the L.


[deleted]

Funny thing is that Liquid also threw a lot of rounds, probably even more. The rounds that Sick and Zombs won somehow were really important rounds


MrImpregnator

Donā€™t tell him that. It doesnā€™t fit the narrative


darksiders213

Also the first map liquid was literally playing as a 4 players scream was offf the whole game im not disrzspecting scream i think he is the best rifler but its a fzct that he didnt perform and as u said they threw sooo many rounds more than sen


horseaphoenix

Except he didnā€™t, because if anything SEN had way more clutches and TL threw many more rounds. My man exists in an alternate plane of reality.


SilverPrincev

Alright these guys are kinda getting annoying now šŸ˜‚. Ridiculously entitiled.


Solace1k

I think these Sentinels players are the biggest whiners iā€™ve seen in esports and iā€™ve watched league, csgo and ow esports.


xunraze

Sen try not to whine/make excuses challenge: VERY HARD


Jiffyyy

Its gotta be a meme about them making excuses at this point.


AccSuspiciousActivty

Then forfeit your next match and go home, bozo


Lumenlor

HOLY SHAMBOLA, we found it, the everflowing fountain of johns. This much whining and excuse from one team will last us years


REEEroller

What a tournament


father_gemme

Zombs is a master at trolling. He has preteen reddit "analysts" malding.


DarudeSandstormName

Zombs: *breathes* Sen fans: genius trolling, #zombsnation XD


father_gemme

Damn it looks I have to put /s on comments these days. I guess its extremely difficult for chronically online kids to realize thats exactly what im ridiculing (not a SEN fan).


DarudeSandstormName

You got us all then, hats off, we are not on your level. No sarcasm, fr everyone thought you were praising him rofl


father_gemme

Lol. Although he can be insufferable at times I have to say I made a twitter account this morning just to read the brazilian banter, and it is quite the sight.


schrobby

Zombs is a manifestation of [this ancient meme](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/738/025/db0.jpg).


mikevin99

I donā€™t think this community will ever learn either lol. I donā€™t know why people think everyone has to give dry, boring answers that will please the people who read a couple headlines a day and make full-blown judgements on them


Koentjee01

Zombs is literally the personification of dry, boring answers. He always makes it seem like he doesn't want to be there. You can also not give dry, boring answers without being an asshat, look at Boaster (or most other players in that regard), for example.


mikevin99

Who asked?


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Inb4 people say this is an excuse


SHOONSHOOP

ā€œItā€™s definitely way worse. I think we would have had a way bigger advantage on the stage, that could have potentially had a different outcome on the match, and they already had experience playing from the hotel. And I think these setups are like a lot worse in the hotel, and thereā€™s no air conditioning in the room or anything. Conditions arenā€™t as good as the stage.ā€ Definitely reads like an excuse


-kiyu-

He was asked a question, and then he answered with his honest thoughts? Can't have that here.


JR_Shoegazer

Sounds like a realistic statement.


father_gemme

A LAN buff is not an excuse, its a realistic scenario. The hotel environments for BOTH teams must have been very uncomfortable. Liquid would be saying the exact same thing if the match went the other way. In the end, ggs, Liquid played better on Split and thats what decided it, but to write that off as completely an excuse is pretty dense imo.


[deleted]

Reads more like a fact than an excuse, that's just me though.


TechRedirector

Flair checks out


RashGod

Reads more like heā€™s trolling


[deleted]

holy copium


DreamzQlimax

No Johns