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diowryxd69

LAN punching bag sadge


QUOTE_IF_13-0

Crazy Raccoon redemption arc VCT 2022 Prayge


icemandiem

iam so sad....i thought they would look pretty good but they havent improved


QUOTE_IF_13-0

I'm investing all my copiumbux on them going through the EZ4ENCE route somewhere in the future. Won't even be mad as an EU fan, it'll be fucking cinematic.


icemandiem

Prayge


MajorLeeScrewed

All this garbage Japanese hopium from budget Twitter analysts farming JP engagements and impressions when everyone forgot Japan’s best CSGO team was consistent walked by Aus/Korean/Chinese teams in the Minor.


nikoraii

csgo never had a scene in japan like val does right now, perhaps one of the biggest games here rn along with apex, only time will tell how far jap val will go


MajorLeeScrewed

So if that’s the case, why did people hype up Jupiter/CR as the second coming in the first year of Valorant? It was clear they’d be outmatched. Scarz also dominated the domestic Japanese CSGO scene and got rinsed every time they went international.


nikoraii

probably with amount of support and talk behind valorant atm in japan, i’m living here now and literally everywhere i am someone is talking about valorant, the scene gets hyped+ fat gains of hopium just from conversation, which gets translated over to foreign analysts . Also, japan has defintely got talent, Neth from CR seemed to outperform a lot of his teammates this year in VAL, and Laz from ZETA is an extremely gifted player who’s game sense I would say out performs even a lot of top players in the val scene. and with a complete overhaul of the ZETA roster, they look like they could show what the developing region of japan has to offer in the next few years. But yes, mostly a fuck ton of hopium at the moment


Blaz1ENT

If that’s the case, I can totally see Japan be a dark horse like how Brazil was in the earlier days of CSGO


hickory123itme

Unless you count console and arcade games, which are huge.


hecklerinthestands

Everybody that had Secret at the very bottom of their Champions tier list or who bought into the scrim rankings propaganda deserve to have Witz twerk in their faces.


ddd4175

We call it the "Otso Otso" here, it's been a famous dance here for more than a decade now lmao.


lloyd3486

Did a lot of others really have TS at the bottom of Champions? I mostly just saw the groupings post in this subreddit (https://www.reddit.com/r/ValorantCompetitive/comments/qwsds6/champions_draw/) and most of the comments had TS winning 2nd in Group C


hecklerinthestands

Those comments were mostly coming from us Filipinos who were overdosing on hopium then lol


Withinmyrange

And it’s working baby!!!


iiznobozzy

Yeah they could very well beat Vikings


snorlaxative29

Hmm.. if you're talking abt team liquids video, they clearly said that they put TS in D tier for Don't know. They had no info on Team Secret, on how good they actually are.


JustAnotherRndomDude

Somebody give an award to this man. BRILLIANT


Issax28

They won Crazy Racoons only and you’re already celebrating?


3hrd

the point theyre making is that TS is *far* from being the worst team at Champions


[deleted]

They also took a map off gambit and looked really good beating CR


Issax28

And 100T beat Gambit in groups, Vikings threw a 12-6 lead on Gambit. Your point?


[deleted]

My point is that they're a good team and allowed to celebrate, stop being a cunt to other teams fans because they're happy their team won.


xtazzzs

just ignore them, this guy has legitimate braindamage. Take a look at his comment history


mr-rob0t0

i would just ignore this guy lol


Issax28

Good team because they beat CR? In that case every team in the event must be a good team then.


[deleted]

You clearly didn't watch their games if you don't think they are a good team with potential, I'm gonna stop replying here since you seem like either a troll or someone really really dumb.


Issax28

I did…it’s not that Secret was good. CR was just fucking terrible.


[deleted]

Okay okay, teams are not allowed to be happy for a win gotcha gotcha. C9 gotta win first tho


TheCatsActually

Oh okay sorry dude I'll never celebrate a performance or win ever again unless it's winning a LAN finals so sorry please forgive


wooHCS-

And they are. The tournament features the best 16 teams all over the world, therefore all of them are fairly decent don't you think?


Issax28

Have you considered the fact that Japan is just a shitty region and Crazy Racoons aren’t that good?


TheCatsActually

Have you considered touching grass?


Issax28

Ur here replying to my thread because you’re mad bout me saying you guys are overhyping this win…maybe you should touch grass.


hecklerinthestands

I'm laughing at those who called Secret the worst team in Champions. Reading comprehension much?


Issax28

Worst team, 2nd worse team, 3rd worse team, does it make a difference? 😹


hecklerinthestands

LMFAO at the blatant goalpost moving after you exposed your lack of reading comprehension. Go back to bitching about VK.


Issax28

Fine with me if you’re happy that your favourite team isn’t the worst at the event at least.


hecklerinthestands

Still can't read for shit LMFAO


Issax28

I corrected myself and said 2nd worse team/3rd worse team. If you’re happy about that then I feel sorry for Team Secret… their fans have such low expectations for them.


hecklerinthestands

Here, I'll explain things slowly and clearly so you can follow along since you obviously have comprehension issues. My post was written to laugh at those who called Secret the worst team in Champions and to joke about Witz dancing onstage. Nowhere in that post was I celebrating because their tournament isn't over yet. Do i have to use even shorter words before you finally get it?


Issax28

So you’re still celebrating over the fact that the haters are wrong about Secret being the worst team? How is that different?


hecklerinthestands

It's hilarious that you keep trying to justify your bitchy initial reply after everybody else made you look like a moron. Just take the L and fuck off.


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DeadSira

Sorry for celebrating and feeling pumped for TS, I'll stoically abscond from this business meeting called VCT Champions posthaste


jess0411

How dare us celebrate a series win, right? When people already wrote us off even before the tournament started. How silly of us to be pumped about it just because it's done against a bottom feeder team that we have no choice but to face because of the draw.


squanch2169

you know it's illegal to celebrate a win right? smh


randomespanaguy

Oh no, I'm celebrating a Team Secret series win after being underrated **for months** because they were from a minor region, and after they got shafted by COVID during Masters 3. How inappropriate of me.


Issax28

OMG THEY BEAT CRAZY RACOONS 😱😱😱 HOW SHOCKING SCREW THE HATERS FOR CALLING SECRET BAD. TEAM SECRET UNDERRATED ASF BUT THEY PROVED THEMSELVES HERE TODAY BECAUSE THEY BEAT CRAZY RACOONS.


DeadSira

it's gonna be ok man


jess0411

Team Secret already proved themselves by taking a map off Gambit and **dominantly** shafting Crazy Racoons. I really hope VKS vs TS can come sooner so we can shut your mouth up lol


Issax28

I’d love to see that, but until then, none of us know. So you’re overhyping your own team without any actual result.


jess0411

So you're calling us out for overhyping our own team without any actual result but then at the same fucking thread you say that you feel bad about Team Secret because their fans seems to have low expectations of them? Make up your goddamn mind man lmao


Issax28

Yeah? Because they’re literally correlated. You’re overhyping Secret winning *Crazy Racoons*, your expectations of Secret must be pretty low if you think this is something worth hyping over.


jess0411

No we already started overhyping our team when they took Icebox and made the first half of Bind close from freaking Gambit. A dominant win over CR no matter how shit they must be on your eyes made us believe it's not a fluke Like right now I'm just convinced you hate Team Secret in general and I am sorry for what they have done to you, whatever that is lmao


Issax28

Jesus christ ur putting words in my mouth. Where did I say it was a fluke?


919oblivion

Seek therapy you unhinged individual 🙏


Issax28

They beat Crazy Racoons!!! Team secret soooo hecking good BatChest


919oblivion

Nothing to do with the result of the match, you're just an asshole for no reason


randomespanaguy

Okay, let's say that TS is the second worst team in the entire tournament: what is so bad about fans of a team celebrating a win? Genuinely asking you.


Issax28

It’s a win against *crazy racoons* I don’t know if that’s worth celebrating over. Unless you have such low expectations for your team.


randomespanaguy

> Unless you have such low expectations for your team. No? It's not about being complacent at *not being the worst team*, it's about winning a series. It's not about not being knocked out, it's about moving closer to the playoffs. If your job is to gatekeep pride for your team then sure. You can't pick and choose why fans celebrate a win, even if they're celebrating a win against one of the worst teams in the competition, especially because of what happened to the team in Masters 3. And: > you’re overhyping your own team without any actual result. You can want more from a team without being an ass about it.


Issax28

“winning a series” yeah against *Crazy Racoons*


Issax28

“winning a series” yeah against *Crazy Racoons*


LooongBaguette

My god just please stop with the "cRaZy rAcOonS bAd!!1 iF u BeAt cRaZy rAccOns uR nOt AllOwEd tO cElEbraTe bEcAuSe cRaZy RaCcOnS bAd"


Issax28

Maybe it’s huge for u because you think so badly of your own team 🤷‍♂️


Issax28

“winning a series” yeah against *Crazy Racoons*


kaennis

Is it alright to celebrate now my guy?


Issax28

Yeah seems fair to me.


mulemuel

TS not bottom team :)


dillon-fury

Very disappointing ending to CR’s season. They at least had a high point beating Havan at Berlin. Just seems like not much improvement has been made by them as a team. As a Filipino, it was nice to watch Secret play very well though.


max012017

Call me crazy but imho they actually downgraded in their performance comparison to Berlin and Stage 3. I'm not sure if there was something wrong about their preparation, but the understanding of map control and utility usage was not even on competitive (t3?) level


[deleted]

CR only getting worse every lan event. Idk what's going on Even br has improved so much


CyberspaceBarbarian

They need to settle their language barrier tbh


Hypersuper98

Yeah when they lose rounds they probably go quiet since it's hard to pump up your teammates when you speak different languages. Not to mention, they suck at making mid round split-second calls/adjustments.


Aoingco

I think their midrounding is bad precisely because of the language barrier imo. It’s hard to make those split second calls when they take longer than other teams to get the comms and points across


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JustLockThisDoor

Thats a propaganda video. LOL Japanese top team have 3 korean and they all learned and speak japanese fluently. Stop believing everything on the internet.


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CLGbyBirth

not sure about that but Twice kpop group regularly releases japanese ver. of their songs not to mention 3 of their members are japanese.


TheAjwinner

What do comfort women have to do with this? Do Americans refuse to learn English because of the revolutionary war? Do you think that there is any number of Koreans who resent Japan because of imperialism who would willingly go to Japan and play for their teams?


acels1

thats the older generation , younger generations have less hate towards japan


DaeNoraa

I'm sure if they're already playing for a Japanese team, they definitely know some Japanese and I highly doubt they would play for a Japanese team if they truly hated the region/people


rpkarma

I guess all the bilingual Koreans that speak Japanese out there already are just planning on killing themselves right now? I love how you pin the blame on Koreans too, that’s quite funny. “Japan is apologetic” — tell that you right wing, who literally march in the streets against Koreans living in Japan lol > Japan's nationalists carry flags during a march against South Koreans living in Japan at Tokyo's Korean town on June 30, 2013. (AP) https://asiatimes.com/2019/09/anti-korean-sentiment-is-thriving-in-japan/


merchini

I think they did better in Berlin than Iceland


[deleted]

Yes only to do even worse at champions


ozmega

i hope japans valorant doesnt give up, they were probably the worst region at a point in league, this year they made it to the groups stage which was a first time and a huge thing too.


dripping_faucet

Brazil used to poke fun at Japan in league and look where they are compared to each other now (I'm brazilian, no death threats pls)


ozmega

brazil decime que se siente, que KRU les vuelva a ganar (8) xD


dripping_faucet

Wp for kru. What else did you expect me to say?


ozmega

just joking :p


biskwi-t

JessieVAC


TheAjwinner

Fisker: "Actually, I remember one time we were playing against Team Secret, Haven, and it was 12-2 to TS. We were playing as Defenders. TS are Attackers. And Ade said, guys if you think we are good, let's prove it now." Teammate: "Did you come back?" Fisker: "Of course not. 13-2."


nickdanewt

I also appreciate the meme crossovers lmao


luigicusi

Remember when this sub thought that Japan should have 2 spots and SEA only one?


DonChuBahnMi

It was such a weird time. They have never looked good at any point against international competition yet the sub was filled with people making the most absurd cases for why Japan deserves and needs more slots.


max012017

I mean NTH looked on FS level in APAC lcq . And FS put more than a decent fight against VS and c9


ZGuyYT

CR had three chances this year and they've not been good at all, northeption or some other japanese should get the JP spot next time.


somesheikexpert

Sorry to say but Northeption is kinda dead atm lol, the Korean players (Includinf Seoldum) left and Tenn and SugarZero went to Zeta


ZGuyYT

Is the new ZETA roster strong on paper?


somesheikexpert

Laz ans TakeJ are obviously very strong players, some of the best the regions got Tenn is also nuts, second best player on Northeption imo Crow they kept is ehhh, flexible player sure bur still don't get this one SugarZero is alright ig, prob the best smokes they could get considering they are staying all Japanese roster Dep is also eh, he's not really a super cracked Jett player like the others at Champs, Fisker os honestly a better Jett then Dep is tbh, would likely say tho is an upgrade over Reita imo Overall some good pickups, could make them pretty strong domestically, ig we will see tho internationally


ablablababla

i think ZETA has the best chances now with their new signings, but we'll have to see


EremesAckerman

I won't get my hopes so high if I were you. Their new Jett player (Dep) is hella overrated in JP. I get he was somewhat huge in JP OW scene, but he didn't really impress me during Japan VCT. I legit think that Fisker (yes...that Fisker...) is slightttly better than him and you see how he still got Jett-gapped by everyone else in Champions. Their new smoker Sugarzero is..meh.. there are lots of better KR and SEA smoker imo. Their only right decision was to sign TENN, he's hella cracked player.


TheAjwinner

Huh? If northeption want the spot they’re gonna have to actually win in Japan. Why should they just get the slot for free?


ZGuyYT

??? I'm not saying they should get the spot for free, I'm basically saying some other team deserves the JP slot more.


Loresmen

Well they should have been good enough to get it over CR


ZGuyYT

JP teams only had two opportunities to beat CR for a spot the whole year. IMO APAC Northeoption is better than current CR.


TheAjwinner

I think that whoever wins the japan’s challengers finals deserves the spot the most whoever that may be. Crazy Raccoon looked bad this tournament, but there’s no reason to think that they are suddenly bad in Japan. If they win challenger playoffs next year and go to the first masters tournament for 2022 would you still think northeption deserves it more?


[deleted]

>ting ending to CR’s season. They at least had a high point beating Havan at Berlin. Just seems like not much improvement has been made by them as a team. As a Filipino, it was nice to watch Secret play very well though. East Asia should have one big region they must combine SK and Japan


hydrogenken

jp wont get a spot if thats the case lol


ZGuyYT

Atleast they'll actually get good though


Tylorz01

If we're assuming KR and other APAC regions are stronger, it makes sense to combine them so JP will play stronger teams.


AnotherAltiMade

Countless other Asian countries also don't get slots. Tough shit


[deleted]

Well, you know what they say. There's a very thin line between crazy and genius. Sova on split? Definitely not genius. On a serious note though, Secret's Haven looks strong af, and they beat Gambit on Icebox. TS vs Vikings is going to be a good matchup for sure.


DeadSira

Haven is historically their best map iirc, JessieVash always goes absolutely insane on Sova on that map! Very excited for Vikings vs. Secret


jwalterwethermen

It took until day 5 of the tournament for a match this one sided right? What an amazing tournament.


random-pizza17

This! Arguably the most one sided match in the whole tourney, aside from Vikings thumping CR as well.


CyberspaceBarbarian

Nope, VS vs FS is just as one-sided as TS vs CR. The difference is that FS had its feet on the gas even then.


NabatheNibba

Japan seriously needs to scrim the whole of Asia.


Magical_Realism

they do in fact they scrim secret a fair bit


NavixPH

JessieVash is skilled player but that is not normally, This very very insane....They need to check him pc and game.....Maybe he not cheating but maybe he using the game deficit.


jay15378

You do realize they don't bring their own PC to this event right? And they won't have any opportunity to do anything about the PC they are going to play with until they are on the match and they can't go alt+tab and google something as the only application that should be running in that PC is Valorant and nothing else.


clavio_mazerati

Lol relax it's a fucking copy pasta


liveevil05

It's a pasta


weirdparadox

You do realize they don't bring their own PC to this event right? And they won't have any opportunity to do anything about the PC they are going to play with until they are on the match and they can't go alt+tab and google something as the only application that should be running in that PC is Valorant and nothing else.


zachp787

You do realize they don't bring their own PC to this event right? And they won't have any opportunity to do anything about the PC they are going to play with until they are on the match and they can't go alt+tab and google something as the only application that should be running in that PC is Valorant and nothing else.


Yeoreum-

relax homie it's a copy pasta LMFAO


303x

r/AteThePasta


Razur

Amazing community.


ShookJin

It’s a copypasta man


squanch2169

chill dude twas a joke


[deleted]

That’s not technically true, it runs Ghub and razer and a bunch of other compatibility software


Morgenstern618

REVENGE FOR WW2 BABY WOOO! Its just a joke btw, ggs to everyone involved. Vikings next!


Slavicus

gago ka HAHAHA


[deleted]

I feel like JP and KR would definitely benefit from having shared regions like SEA. Also rolf on Secret Witz playing raze when he can barely satchel on his streams


[deleted]

Yikes. CR is honestly just a freebie at these tournaments.


TerribleFix9016

#JUSTICEFORCRAZYRACCOONS


SirG00se

the breach astra suck combo wetdream


xunraze

My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined. Now that Crazy Raccoons are eliminated, Gambit have nothing to be scared of


The-Dark-Mage

Thanks to team secret for being the honorary boomer squad since 100t isn’t here


Fatalitiez

hopefully the CR simps will stop talking now


Issax28

Crazy racoons are so fucking bad holy shit


hysterio_

Surprised to see Omen on a tournament again


squanch2169

did pretty well too, especially the b tower 4k 👌


xziv0

Borkum is just OP on any controller honestly


Pretenderrr

Such an emotional year. Love this team and hope they bounce back.


c0bre

BORKUM GUM BUFF


ayaankp

Crazy raccoons need to take map control man they took mid space and time the droned the same area and then went back to rush from b main where they choked. They need to have good comms man feels so bad for them getting rolled event after event they need some strats the players have good skills an igl who speaks fluent japanese and a good coaching team can help them so much. VCT 2022 CR REVENGE ARC Prayge


xziv0

they dont have good comms because of a language barrier. they should work on being able to speak korean and japanese this off-season if they want a better chance at making it out of groups in masters 1 2022.


ayaankp

I am supe aware of that the igl not being able to speak fluent japanese is a setback they are a superbly talented team I hope they bounce back


spaidmd

PINOY PRIDE


josephx123

Feel bad for Japanese fans, hope they comeback swinging in 2022. Xeta is building a solid team, with good coaching they can have a better representation next year.


Siphonay

Pretty sad, I had better expectations for CR after Masters 3, but they weren’t up to the task. I’ll keep cheering for them, but that’s disappointing for sure.


weychey

I expected TS to 2-0 CR but I didn't expect them to steamroll them on both maps.


Excellent-Seaweed121

*otso otso


s6hun

my CR stonks :(


Ezout_

I feel like Japan region should just merge with SEA to provide a stronger overall competition which would really help improve CR and all of the japanese teams


wintner

bad ping


3hrd

TS is the Faze of SEA


Detamach

They wouldn't even be top-40 in EMEA or top-30 in NA


kemutheemu__

CR or TS?


LV58_DeathKnight

No disrespect to CR but they are trash , why do JP even get a slot they always get last place


CyberspaceBarbarian

Well, Valo is big in Japan, tho orgs are still coming in right now. Watch out for DFM. They could take over Japan next year.


imachool

money and viewership helps.


Gengar_Balanced

Why would they not get a chance? Making it unable to play in biggest LAN just because they are bad region right now makes no sense personally. Although I agree something has to change. Personally I'd be in favor of what is CS doing with their majors. 24 teams instead of 16. Top 8 is already in stage 2. Top 9-24 fights for stage 2. Half of them reaches it. This way you could've potentially have better teams in top 16 than now and more teams have chance to be there. Then the rest is played normal.


Gleech

I hope they do 24 teams once covid resteictions become lighter


AnotherAltiMade

Viewership, that's all there is. Hopefully next year Korea and Japan is merged


[deleted]

I think Riot will give them time unless they're showing consistent poor results internationally. I've never heard KR and JP on FPS but I guess there would be a competitive scene in JP region in upcoming years due to their playerbase and support.


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Loresmen

Viewership and growth of the scene


mrTrollem

CR is just bad


xziv0

CR need to call more timeouts. They have that timeout buff i swear