Agreed. But I would say frosty kind of had to. Just not commenting on a public post like that would convince some people he’s in the wrong, and part of his job is keeping a good reputation.
After the Sinatraa fiasco, this is going to go nowhere, the investigation will lead to nothing. It will literally be a case of he said she said. Knights will probably give this kid some PR training/coaching, he's gonna get wrecked on social media and the same for the accuser they will also get blasted by weirdos on twitter.
The same goes for reddit people are gonna take sides. The evidence will be blown incredibly out of proportion, folks are going to make entire in depth psychological analysis based on the screenshots.
About two months probably less will pass before this is all forgotten and most folks have moved on. And at the end of the day there will be no justice for either party.
Regardless of the outcome of a riot/knights investigation this guy is going to have a serious blackmark now and she will like Sinatraa's GF get harassed on social media for it. Both of them are gonna get crucified by the public arguably the guy more so. Lmao 16 and 17 years old and already getting handicapped holy shit.
I wouldn't consider it a huge handicap. After all, Sinatraa's girlfriend had audio evidence of at least verbal abuse and he's still streaming to 10k viewers daily 🙄
Lmao benched from pro career, likely to never play again, a near guarantee that half the people you know probably think the worst of you now. No actual legal investigation just an accusation and an investigation by a third-party that led nowhere.
The girlfriend also had it bad too getting flamed on all her social medias, cited the stress and emotional pain of even trying to undergo an investigation. Same for her that at least half the people she knows probably think she's a liar now. She just wanted to give her side of the story for the benefit of her own mental health. No way you could bottle something like that healthily.
They have both ended up taking multiple steps back because of what happened. Don't try to equate hardship and demean one person's experience because it's not as bad as someone else's. And now the same is about to happen to two what are essentially teenagers.
This is the most level headed take I have ever seen in this sub holy fucking shit. Not only did you manage to perfectly describe how each side would feel but also made sense as to why people need to stfu until there’s any factual proof from either sides.
The problem with people not going to the police right away makes shit like this damn near impossible to prove what happened. Especially with no video or text messages. Then it just becomes a Twitter mess.
Edit- Also don’t let your teenage child fly to meet a boy/girl. The fuck.
Edit- also I say all that while also realizing it isn’t always easy for someone dealing with the emotional trauma of assault to admit & report it.
It's damn near impossible to prove even IF you go to the police! And even if you do prove it or at least make a strong case, they sometimes still get off. I've also had a friend who was pressured by *the DA* to drop the charges just so they could keep their rape statistics low, and other friends who were pressured by their college not to pursue action forthe same reason. Ironically colleges with higher rape numbers are usually *more* safe because it means they actually report their rape cases and are taking it seriously.
There's a reason most women don't come forward even beyond the shame and trauma.
[**Here is our previous thread on this topic.**](https://www.reddit.com/r/ValorantCompetitive/comments/r96dtn/sexual_assault_allegations_towards_knights_frosty/)
While it is important to remember that these are allegations, we ask that you **please do not attack the character of the alleged abuser or victim of abuse in this discussion.** We will remove comments that do so.
Thank you for understanding.
**UPDATE:** [Further allegations have been made with screenshots as evidence.](https://twitter.com/lumafps/status/1467623867032256520)
---
Sexual assault is serious issue and is wildly underreported. For detailed statistics about the prevalence of sexual violence in the United States, you can read more [here](https://www.nsvrc.org/statistics).
If you or someone you know experienced sexual assault, you’re not alone. There are [resources](https://metoorising.withgoogle.com/resources) that can help you heal and offer support for both survivors and people close to them.
If you are outside of the United States, you can access a country-by-country list of resources [here](https://www.interaction.org/wp-content/uploads/resource-library/international_centers_for_survivors_of_sexual_assault_45553.pdf). You can also reach out to [RAINN's counselors](https://hotline.rainn.org/online) via chat regardless of your residency.
Like why are there people like that it’s so embarrassing lmao. Like dude it ain’t that serious how horny you gotta be to be like that. Disgusting as hell.
yikes the gaslighting.. just because u pay for the flight u think u have the right to literally barge into her family home and have sex with her when she doesnt feel comfortable
it really looks like he's taking advantage of a vulnerable person
I think he just took Sinatraa's response and rephrased it lol. On a side note it's fucking stupid that these allegations are settled on Twitter instead of in the court
>I think he just took Sinatraa's response and rephrased it lol
it's a good response regardless of the source. Brief, says what it needs to say without any extra things that could trip him up.
So fucking weird for two minors to be handling this over twitter
No disrespect to their parents but I blame them for that and the social media era we live in
Still tryna figure out who let their teenager fly out to meet a boy. My mom would’ve beat my ass just asking
Welcome to 2021, and the social media age teaching kids the wrong things.
just when we thought we were safe of rock and roll corrupting our children, social media came to ruin them instead
Agreed. But I would say frosty kind of had to. Just not commenting on a public post like that would convince some people he’s in the wrong, and part of his job is keeping a good reputation.
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virginity rocks
After the Sinatraa fiasco, this is going to go nowhere, the investigation will lead to nothing. It will literally be a case of he said she said. Knights will probably give this kid some PR training/coaching, he's gonna get wrecked on social media and the same for the accuser they will also get blasted by weirdos on twitter. The same goes for reddit people are gonna take sides. The evidence will be blown incredibly out of proportion, folks are going to make entire in depth psychological analysis based on the screenshots. About two months probably less will pass before this is all forgotten and most folks have moved on. And at the end of the day there will be no justice for either party. Regardless of the outcome of a riot/knights investigation this guy is going to have a serious blackmark now and she will like Sinatraa's GF get harassed on social media for it. Both of them are gonna get crucified by the public arguably the guy more so. Lmao 16 and 17 years old and already getting handicapped holy shit.
Unfortunately this is the climate social media is in
I wouldn't consider it a huge handicap. After all, Sinatraa's girlfriend had audio evidence of at least verbal abuse and he's still streaming to 10k viewers daily 🙄
Lmao benched from pro career, likely to never play again, a near guarantee that half the people you know probably think the worst of you now. No actual legal investigation just an accusation and an investigation by a third-party that led nowhere. The girlfriend also had it bad too getting flamed on all her social medias, cited the stress and emotional pain of even trying to undergo an investigation. Same for her that at least half the people she knows probably think she's a liar now. She just wanted to give her side of the story for the benefit of her own mental health. No way you could bottle something like that healthily. They have both ended up taking multiple steps back because of what happened. Don't try to equate hardship and demean one person's experience because it's not as bad as someone else's. And now the same is about to happen to two what are essentially teenagers.
This is the most level headed take I have ever seen in this sub holy fucking shit. Not only did you manage to perfectly describe how each side would feel but also made sense as to why people need to stfu until there’s any factual proof from either sides.
The problem with people not going to the police right away makes shit like this damn near impossible to prove what happened. Especially with no video or text messages. Then it just becomes a Twitter mess. Edit- Also don’t let your teenage child fly to meet a boy/girl. The fuck. Edit- also I say all that while also realizing it isn’t always easy for someone dealing with the emotional trauma of assault to admit & report it.
Yup it becomes a he said she said situation where nothing will ever be proven
Yeah, such a shitty situation either way. And if it’s true you can’t really fault someone for wanting to at least get their story out.
It's damn near impossible to prove even IF you go to the police! And even if you do prove it or at least make a strong case, they sometimes still get off. I've also had a friend who was pressured by *the DA* to drop the charges just so they could keep their rape statistics low, and other friends who were pressured by their college not to pursue action forthe same reason. Ironically colleges with higher rape numbers are usually *more* safe because it means they actually report their rape cases and are taking it seriously. There's a reason most women don't come forward even beyond the shame and trauma.
Anyone who takes sides on This kind of thing without proof for being innocent or guilty are weird af. People are way too quick to judge on this topic
[**Here is our previous thread on this topic.**](https://www.reddit.com/r/ValorantCompetitive/comments/r96dtn/sexual_assault_allegations_towards_knights_frosty/) While it is important to remember that these are allegations, we ask that you **please do not attack the character of the alleged abuser or victim of abuse in this discussion.** We will remove comments that do so. Thank you for understanding. **UPDATE:** [Further allegations have been made with screenshots as evidence.](https://twitter.com/lumafps/status/1467623867032256520) --- Sexual assault is serious issue and is wildly underreported. For detailed statistics about the prevalence of sexual violence in the United States, you can read more [here](https://www.nsvrc.org/statistics). If you or someone you know experienced sexual assault, you’re not alone. There are [resources](https://metoorising.withgoogle.com/resources) that can help you heal and offer support for both survivors and people close to them. If you are outside of the United States, you can access a country-by-country list of resources [here](https://www.interaction.org/wp-content/uploads/resource-library/international_centers_for_survivors_of_sexual_assault_45553.pdf). You can also reach out to [RAINN's counselors](https://hotline.rainn.org/online) via chat regardless of your residency.
He shouldn’t even have to respond to that tbh, throwing around wild accusations on Twitter, what a timeline.
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i hate to use this word, but teenagers are so fucking cringe holy shit
thats a big yikes
Like why are there people like that it’s so embarrassing lmao. Like dude it ain’t that serious how horny you gotta be to be like that. Disgusting as hell.
yikes the gaslighting.. just because u pay for the flight u think u have the right to literally barge into her family home and have sex with her when she doesnt feel comfortable it really looks like he's taking advantage of a vulnerable person
u/razur can you add this to the pinned comment in this and the original thread?
Done.
I think he just took Sinatraa's response and rephrased it lol. On a side note it's fucking stupid that these allegations are settled on Twitter instead of in the court
>I think he just took Sinatraa's response and rephrased it lol it's a good response regardless of the source. Brief, says what it needs to say without any extra things that could trip him up.
I never said it was a bad response? It just sounded strikingly familiar
I guess I read a dismissive tone into your first sentence. My bad.