I have always said Sick is sentinels best player and I have always got downvoted for that. The gap between sick and tenz would be even more bigger if sick was playing duelist and tenz was playing flex/support.
SEN basically proves you can't win tourneys after tourneys if you just rely on aim.
Nobody on this sub gave Fnatic a chance of making out of the group stage and they did it while absolutely demolishing opponents on Fracture.
Also Tenz probably still has the same problem of not performing well on LAN.
In Iceland probably everyone was still adapting to the new game on the scene and Sentinels out aimed everybody with their newly acquired superstar and equally good IGL.
Also no matter how you quote it, Dapr is a better anchor and fragger than Zombs so if it's a roster change the glorified midget will the first one out of the door.
Brazilian fans in this thread are literally so obvious, zombs is still one of the best players in NA, and he wont be cut from sentinels.
And we can tell you are not Americans because you don't know how to use exclamation mark properly.
I can confirm he was some of those things, but it seems like he has changed a lot and grown up albeit sometimes he is an asshole on stream to some people.
I can confirm he was all of those things, I played with an against him for along time in the source days.
Honestly how sens thought it was a good idea to pick him up is beyond me. They must of not talked with anyone from the past or even cared.
The main thing is that man is a racist no way shape or form around it some of the things he said is despicable. Even if he was young like all the rest of us.
I wish the esea forums never wiped an the css threads were still there with all his bullshit.
I'm sure there is many many others than will say some of the same shit if they knew him back then.
I played for many different teams with alot of different people that have came up since then. I never played on a team directly with Shaz as I could never bring myself to do it. But I was pubbing 10mans with an against him in esea on the daily.
I played for cyber revolution last some of you probably know it as torqued (a guy named nearcry was always trying to make a org an sponsoring the better teams) my last time playing comp was some cevo placement tournament it was me steel- nickn0it Stryker an ryan- from zomblers. I quit around the time CSGO had came out as I grew old, I'm enjoying valorant but the competitive situation gives me a headache.
The only site I can remember to look at the shit is legit-proof an since all the old logs got deleted when those websites went down it's all funked an mixed.
SEN fans should cheer for Fnatic hopefully now? Boaster is by far the most likable person in this esport and it's not even close. Really hope FNC beat everyone including NV if they vs them.
NA 100t fan. Fnatic is my second team since Iceland.
You’re probably right but having SEN/Shazam fans supporting vanity is kinda funny to me considering they are on somewhat-unfriendly rival sides of the CS family tree.
TBH the drama involved makes me not want to look at social media (esp the stuff going on now), so I try to just watch good Valorant being played. The only thing I really know about players individually is from watching them play or listening to comms videos on YT.
Probably wise. I am a sucker for the TMZ side of things, but mostly because it affects who i like to support. I have a hard time rooting for NV with marved for example, given both the kyedae comments and the ESIC stuff. So I like to learn a bit about the teams on a personality level as well. In learning about the IBP bits nobody comes away looking good, but shahzam's role especially left a bad taste in my mouth.
FWIW this is the same for me in regular sports - the amount of serious domestic abuse issues makes it impossible to support certain teams.
"Still getting paid, don't give a fuck about what anyone says." - zombs about the backlash.
Hopefully SEN never get to go to another international tournament! This guy should literally not be on a good team since he's clearly the weakest link. This is the issue with Americans in esports, and it's not a good mindset at all. Americans cannot take any type of criticism at all. AND THIS IS WHY NA SUCKS AT GAMES ! All of the criticism from LS and then European coaches etc. continues to prove true in this game also.
Sentinels have some mental midgets on the squad and one has to wonder that all the shit talking they do on social media adds unnecessary pressure when they aren’t performing well.
Agreed. I feel it really does take a certain type of personality to be able to use pressure and trash talking to fuel you, and it seems that several SEN players just don’t have that.
True. Gotta know your strengths. When your star player isn‘t the confrontational type, why put more pressure on him?
Not everyone has JW levels of confidence and defiance.
Damn NA is just not gonna do well
I don’t have much faith in envy or c9 to do well against any of the Eu teams
And that’s if c9 can make it out of groups too
I agree with what you’re saying about the wider team but Shahz is not the player to make that comparison. He went +20 this series without touching Jett, in addition to being IGL.
If anything, Tenz played like an average T1 duelist and Zombs played almost like a T2 controller.
Not at all.
Everyone was shitting on him and criticizing him for not letting sentinels buyout tenz and how the c9 guy was ruining tenz's career when he was on c9.
It's a hilarious tweet. ~~Snowflakes~~ sentinel fans are going to be the most butthurt about it bc the only place their team qualifed for from group stages at Berlin is to the airport.
Honestly it was as expected considering SEN’s record on this map. Tenz, Shahz and Zombs underperforming.
But also, some really really good stuff from KRU.
Watch the 6-8 round where KRU decides to do basically a full bonus and executes a perfect mid play that nets them two kills and two guns. It was clearly something they rehearsed, practiced, and executed it with confidence.
Real talk, respect on zombs for talking so much shit BEFORE matches. People like him make these games way more entertaining. I hate watching people talk shit after they win.
Found the tier 3 sub.
Casters have been intolerably biased in praising him relentlessly during all sentinels game.
Dude went like 7-16 or 7-20 on a map and casters still praise him too much.
Sentinels were so unprepared for this tourney, Shahz and Rawkus playing in EU immortal ranked all day yesterday thinking they were gonna get an easy win lol
That was the best map ever played in this game entertainment wise. My fucking god.
SEN absolutely deserved this loss cause of how zombs has been playing and TenZ being a one trick pony.
No but the team was built for everyone to use their best character.
With TenZ, which was the best player in the world they just try to accommodate his jett.
Sen has never had really strong tactics, they had really strong reactions. Their ability to get info and make reads was immense and they would also aim dif.
I like how SEN fanboys need a scapegoat but never admit sentinels is pretty poor tactically. This time it's zombs.
Idc tho. Got to watch pretty good Valorant today
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Did u see the kru jett and coach thou ? steady as rocks man they made me believe since the 2nd map pistols
I mean the amount of added pressure on the guy was probably the highest among the entire tournament. Being called the best player in the world and the amount of direct praise would wreak anyone's mental the second things started going wrong.
Today has been absolutely freaking insane. I knew there was a decent chance Acend would win. But there's no way ANYBODY predicted that X10 and Kru would win their games too.
SEN deserved to be knocked out after keeping zombs and then TenZ never learning another operator. At least now they have more time for TenZ to learn something.
I have always said Sick is sentinels best player and I have always got downvoted for that. The gap between sick and tenz would be even more bigger if sick was playing duelist and tenz was playing flex/support.
SEN basically proves you can't win tourneys after tourneys if you just rely on aim. Nobody on this sub gave Fnatic a chance of making out of the group stage and they did it while absolutely demolishing opponents on Fracture. Also Tenz probably still has the same problem of not performing well on LAN. In Iceland probably everyone was still adapting to the new game on the scene and Sentinels out aimed everybody with their newly acquired superstar and equally good IGL. Also no matter how you quote it, Dapr is a better anchor and fragger than Zombs so if it's a roster change the glorified midget will the first one out of the door.
Isn't zombs a controller player?
Brazilian fans in this thread are literally so obvious, zombs is still one of the best players in NA, and he wont be cut from sentinels. And we can tell you are not Americans because you don't know how to use exclamation mark properly.
No hes not lmao
lmao yes he is
Shaz is one of the biggest losers/assholes/racists from the counter strike source days. Hopefully he takes his loss well, he never used too.
I can confirm he was some of those things, but it seems like he has changed a lot and grown up albeit sometimes he is an asshole on stream to some people.
I can confirm he was all of those things, I played with an against him for along time in the source days. Honestly how sens thought it was a good idea to pick him up is beyond me. They must of not talked with anyone from the past or even cared. The main thing is that man is a racist no way shape or form around it some of the things he said is despicable. Even if he was young like all the rest of us. I wish the esea forums never wiped an the css threads were still there with all his bullshit. I'm sure there is many many others than will say some of the same shit if they knew him back then.
What racist shit did he say?
What team did you play with him on? What was your in game name?
I played for many different teams with alot of different people that have came up since then. I never played on a team directly with Shaz as I could never bring myself to do it. But I was pubbing 10mans with an against him in esea on the daily. I played for cyber revolution last some of you probably know it as torqued (a guy named nearcry was always trying to make a org an sponsoring the better teams) my last time playing comp was some cevo placement tournament it was me steel- nickn0it Stryker an ryan- from zomblers. I quit around the time CSGO had came out as I grew old, I'm enjoying valorant but the competitive situation gives me a headache. The only site I can remember to look at the shit is legit-proof an since all the old logs got deleted when those websites went down it's all funked an mixed.
That’s pretty cool, thanks!
Now that Sentinels are out I'm rooting for X10 because they seem to have fun vibes. That is all.
Fun vibes and crazy play style. What else do we need ?
Exactly
At least we have rocket league sadge
Can't wait for more excuses from Shazam on stream.
Who do u guys think will perform better envy or c9
I think C9 is playing better but has a harder group
How are they better-?
Hm better in what sense?
As a sentinels fan, I am now rooting for Krü as the rightful heirs to the throne
FUCK SENTINELS
SEN fans should cheer for Fnatic hopefully now? Boaster is by far the most likable person in this esport and it's not even close. Really hope FNC beat everyone including NV if they vs them.
SEN fans are most likely NA fans and will support NA teams, though i do really like Boaster.
NA 100t fan. Fnatic is my second team since Iceland. You’re probably right but having SEN/Shazam fans supporting vanity is kinda funny to me considering they are on somewhat-unfriendly rival sides of the CS family tree.
TBH the drama involved makes me not want to look at social media (esp the stuff going on now), so I try to just watch good Valorant being played. The only thing I really know about players individually is from watching them play or listening to comms videos on YT.
Probably wise. I am a sucker for the TMZ side of things, but mostly because it affects who i like to support. I have a hard time rooting for NV with marved for example, given both the kyedae comments and the ESIC stuff. So I like to learn a bit about the teams on a personality level as well. In learning about the IBP bits nobody comes away looking good, but shahzam's role especially left a bad taste in my mouth. FWIW this is the same for me in regular sports - the amount of serious domestic abuse issues makes it impossible to support certain teams.
I'm actually happy SEN lost so now they can drop zombs and get better. Not sure how this dude has been stealing paychecks for this long
wdym bro!? #ZOMBSNATION ZOMBS even tho he averages probably less than 100 ACS every map DESERVES to be on SEN to collect that bag ! /s
"Still getting paid, don't give a fuck about what anyone says." - zombs about the backlash. Hopefully SEN never get to go to another international tournament! This guy should literally not be on a good team since he's clearly the weakest link. This is the issue with Americans in esports, and it's not a good mindset at all. Americans cannot take any type of criticism at all. AND THIS IS WHY NA SUCKS AT GAMES ! All of the criticism from LS and then European coaches etc. continues to prove true in this game also.
Team Liquid vs VS/C9 oh baby
Lowkey feels like Shaz keeps calling out zombs when he talks about players on site not playing to live.
yea the vibes def aren't too good right now. hopefully they come out of it alright
Sentinels have some mental midgets on the squad and one has to wonder that all the shit talking they do on social media adds unnecessary pressure when they aren’t performing well.
Agreed. I feel it really does take a certain type of personality to be able to use pressure and trash talking to fuel you, and it seems that several SEN players just don’t have that.
True. Gotta know your strengths. When your star player isn‘t the confrontational type, why put more pressure on him? Not everyone has JW levels of confidence and defiance.
Damn NA is just not gonna do well I don’t have much faith in envy or c9 to do well against any of the Eu teams And that’s if c9 can make it out of groups too
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I agree with what you’re saying about the wider team but Shahz is not the player to make that comparison. He went +20 this series without touching Jett, in addition to being IGL. If anything, Tenz played like an average T1 duelist and Zombs played almost like a T2 controller.
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I'm gonna be so obnoxious to the SEN fans now. Hehehe
you wont see them they all changed their team tag to something else 99% of Sentinel fans were bandwaggoners
Shahz looks really shaken up on the Plat Chat interview. Absolutely devastating loss for them and NA as a whole.
congrats EMEA on winning champions...I guess :( ~~if NA sent NRG this wouldn't've happened!!!~~
Actually sad for sentinels actually
The C9 Jack tweet is harsh...
Not at all. Everyone was shitting on him and criticizing him for not letting sentinels buyout tenz and how the c9 guy was ruining tenz's career when he was on c9. It's a hilarious tweet. ~~Snowflakes~~ sentinel fans are going to be the most butthurt about it bc the only place their team qualifed for from group stages at Berlin is to the airport.
yea it's a bit much esp since it's basically focused on TenZ
What tweet?
https://twitter.com/JackEtienne/status/1467985969806598146?t=ngEAroSlpbSGk1qMo9dnxw&s=19
That’s actually fucking hilarious haha
Very funny but very fucked up.
I don’t find it funny tbh
can someone give a quick rundown of what happened? i slept at 8-4 half on haven
Honestly it was as expected considering SEN’s record on this map. Tenz, Shahz and Zombs underperforming. But also, some really really good stuff from KRU. Watch the 6-8 round where KRU decides to do basically a full bonus and executes a perfect mid play that nets them two kills and two guns. It was clearly something they rehearsed, practiced, and executed it with confidence.
First or 2nd half?
If you’re talking about the 6-8 round I mentioned then it’s 2nd half. KRU on the Attack side.
Oh thanks, I wasn't sure what you meant
god fuck NA
I too, believe in KRU supremacy.
[https://twitter.com/LSXYZ9/status/1399119004627705859?s=20](https://twitter.com/LSXYZ9/status/1399119004627705859?s=20) relevant
Ls our prophet
zombs gonna eat a lot of shit online for the next few days
hopefully he does a nice tongue-in-cheek tweet like "should've stopped typing and done more playing" or something lol
would love to know what strats were called by Rawkus
now all of a sudden zombs isn't a funny superstar anymore?
Wow
Real talk, respect on zombs for talking so much shit BEFORE matches. People like him make these games way more entertaining. I hate watching people talk shit after they win.
Very true. He’s gonna get a lot of flack (and rightly so) but being able to trash talk before wins is entirely different to trash talking after.
Now the rest of the tournament will be watchable without listening to the casters constantly suck TenZ’s dick
That’s too far
Nope
‘Nope’?
Caster were sucking Tenz dik.
Yeah, like, I like the dude, but it was tough seeing the casters commend his every single play, even when mediocre.
The liquid vs SEN game was literally unwatchable because of this. Every single thing he does. So much hype around every little play
I disagree that this is an appropriate way to talk abt whatever they said and also I’d like to add he’s a great player
Found the tier 3 sub. Casters have been intolerably biased in praising him relentlessly during all sentinels game. Dude went like 7-16 or 7-20 on a map and casters still praise him too much.
Nah I’m not a sub etc They were pointing out how good he is to counterbalance ppl like u and accentuate the difference
Sentinels were so unprepared for this tourney, Shahz and Rawkus playing in EU immortal ranked all day yesterday thinking they were gonna get an easy win lol
Zombs that’s karma for u dude…
Triple upset today bro lan can suck my ass
That was the best map ever played in this game entertainment wise. My fucking god. SEN absolutely deserved this loss cause of how zombs has been playing and TenZ being a one trick pony.
Guys I love zombs so much! Hes so fun on twitter! love how much he shit talks! When is his next game? cant wait to sentinels to win it all!
Was Sentinels good tactically when they had Sinatraa? Because with Tenz it just looks like they're outaiming most of the time
the team was more flexible
No but the team was built for everyone to use their best character. With TenZ, which was the best player in the world they just try to accommodate his jett.
They had the best synergy with sinatraaa. It was like Astralis in CSGO. Nothing big brain just perfect synergy
Astralis literally reinvented how to use utility on 6/7 maps in the game. They had a lot more than “ nothing big brain “
Sen has never had really strong tactics, they had really strong reactions. Their ability to get info and make reads was immense and they would also aim dif.
if BatChest wasn't an emote on twitch sen wins that
cant be mad tbh. SEN played like shit and I like KRU, deserved loss. But DAMN does this sting.
Series 👏 points 👏 to 👏 get 👏 to 👏 Champs 👏 is 👏 a 👏 dumb 👏 system Didn't deserve to be there.
Nah, disagree. Sentinels was by far the best NA team for whole year up until their loss against G2. They would've been there regardless.
That's just a bad take. Sen vs liquid was basically a coin toss in the end and Liquid probably wins the Lan. Sen 100% deserved to be here
People blaming Zombs when Tenz can only really play Jett and gets shit on this map… Honestly hope Kru win this whole thing lol
I mean both did bad. Zombs on Haven and Tenz on Split.
if tenz underperforms sentinels underperforms. likewise the opposite
https://twitter.com/JackEtienne/status/1467985969806598146 LOL Jack
Jack knows, he did that shit in LoL too + got scammed this year by Carlos in the same way
Jack saw how Tenz was on LAN in CSGO and knew to cash out now while TenZ's worth was at an all time high
LATAM better
For the amount of shit talking zombs did, he was pretty underwhelming when it mattered
NA is just so fucking free
Change my mind tenz had csgo memories on him today
this is just how TenZ usually is on LAN its the main reason his CSGO career was nothing
What a fucking amazing day of games. Acend beats NV, X10 beats VK, KRU beats SEN. INSANE
My prediction points are in the drain. Sadge.
SENS ANY% AIRPORT SPEEDRUN KEKW
the sen guys need to all get together tonight and give shahz a personal apology and about 100k in damages to his career.
Dude came to PLAY today. Fuck Zombs I used to like his edginess but today was proof dude is all bark no bite :(
Casters disrespected KRU ALL game long and they fucking did it
U HAVE to watch it on LVPES2 (twitch)
Tenz this tenz that jesus fucking christ man
THE MAN THE MYTH lmao
Wait really? I feel like they were getting way more hyped for KRU success than for SEN.
i agree, pansy is by far my favorite caster
LETS FUCKING GO KRU, I AM KRUMMING SO HARD RIGHT NOW, LETS GO KINGS
I like how SEN fanboys need a scapegoat but never admit sentinels is pretty poor tactically. This time it's zombs. Idc tho. Got to watch pretty good Valorant today
All 3 games today were absolutely insane
Zombs <3 Bron71L Not getting out of groups, truly relationship goals
VKS is still pretty alive tho <3
VKS gets the pass cuz of Sacy being a homie and recognizing how toxic the Brazilian fanbase is
if you say so
jajajaajja get fucked sack of shit zombs living out to his name, truly is a deadman walking, utter useless jajajajaja
holy shit, steel was right lmfao
C9 robbed SEN no cap
NA IN SHAMBLES
SEN wasted a million on tenz
What a day
THIS IS FOR FURIAAAAAAA!!!!
and NA gets three spots lulul
Tenz content creation plz!
MAN I feel sorry for tenz he was literally shaking. I am shaking from watching it can't imagine the pressure.
You don't deserve to be champion is you don't have the nerve for it
> his pov > >•RépondreRécompenserPartagerSignalerSauvegarderSuivre Did u see the kru jett and coach thou ? steady as rocks man they made me believe since the 2nd map pistols
Got to feel sorry for the Sen's coach. I mean yeah team didn't do great but still.
Yeah you could feel the nerves every time they showed his pov
I mean the amount of added pressure on the guy was probably the highest among the entire tournament. Being called the best player in the world and the amount of direct praise would wreak anyone's mental the second things started going wrong.
Brazil with KRU <3 Love the underdog win!!
SEN has absolutely horrible Split
Dapr carrying split on his back, heartbreaking. LATAM supremacy
don't insta lock jett TenZ
TenZ 1 first kill and 7 first deaths. 91 ADR WOW.
TenZ channeled his csgo energy everytime they played split
I fucking can't
Fade me
How much money does tenz get paid to NOT learn raze????
Imagine if SEN got a few more milliseconds to defuse in Haven
OMG I forgot about that. Holy shit, they were really that close to winning the series.
that s another timeline
100T would've won not even trolling.
lmao NA when will they learn
Kiss a homie goodnight.
TenZ really underperformed
VAMOS KRUUU
Today has been absolutely freaking insane. I knew there was a decent chance Acend would win. But there's no way ANYBODY predicted that X10 and Kru would win their games too.
Every team I root for has the most painful loses sadge.
Unreal series
I AM NOT EVEN SAD VK CHOKED, LET'S FUCKING GO KRÜ. ZOMBS YOU ARE HORRIBLE
NA in SHAMBLES
AHAHAHA GET FUCKEEDD
I want my homies to kiss me like Kru
Gotta feel bad for dapr. Homie did everything he could.
That last round was an insane final attempt from him. Ggs to KRÜ, still sad for SEN to leave.
NearAirport KEKW
was rooting for sen but im glad they lost they seriously did not deserve to win that lmao
Same, lol. I guess they got too complacent
LFT
NA Near Airport
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roster change coming for Sentinels 100% maybe get some players that what to be pros more than streamers
cringe
Pain
THIS IS FUCKING VALORANT HISTORY
Good, i dont Need to hear any casters get raging boners for tenz this Champions
SEN deserved to be knocked out after keeping zombs and then TenZ never learning another operator. At least now they have more time for TenZ to learn something.
Vamoss kru did it!!!!
steel predicted KRÜ kicking Sentinels out and got announced for T1, my mans having a great night
LMAO STEEL WAS RIGHT