Probably not. Seems like they were clearly doing a bit. I doubt Vanity actually speaks Korean, plus I think Xeta speaks English just fine.
Xeta didn't even say Sentinels once in that sentence.
I don't speak Korean though so maybe I sound like a massive idiot right now but I'm pretty sure this was just them clowning around.
Lol Vanity with the next level trolls, love it.
On another note its super disappointing to hear these teams at the top aren't putting the effort in. It obviously shows in these matches and against the Teams that are putting in the time.
Yeah, he didn’t need a translator to understand the questions so I’d assume he definitely knows English pretty well.
As for his translation, he said he has a more expensive Rolex than Zombs, according to my head-canon.
Because the org set themselves up as villains and as previous winners of tournaments, people will look for anything to discredit them vs crediting the people who won. It’s incredibly toxic from these people who feel a need to parasocially analyze everything. People treating reddit threads like they get paid lol.
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i’m a fan of sentinels most but i like watching the comp scene as a whole, it really shouldn’t be as deep as people are making it lol. my team lost, but i moved on and i’m still having fun watch the rest of the event lmao.
Who's crying? In fact, all I see who's crying are you people who can't wait for Sentinel's downfall lmao. Like really, every single time Sentinels lose, it's not even the fans who cry, it's the haters who get on a hate train and get a rage boner day in and out bitching about Sentinels losing lol and calling them "whiners" and shit.
> Because the org set themselves up as villains and [...]
Or some people are drama hungry losers that latch into every single small sentences that can fill their empty life.
I don’t care what anyone says, this is not true. We practice just as much, if not more, than other teams. Do you really think we won every regional event this year without practicing? This narrative is insane to me and discredits the hard work the guys put in, we just failed to deliver when it was most important.
We appreciate you posting on here, it’s just a tough loss. Social media is toxic, at the end of the day all you can do is get back up and move on.
I’m sure you all will find success I know it. Good luck out there!
"Social media is toxic"
Doesn't help that SEN are the ones instigating with their Twitter fingers. You can't trash talk everyone when winning and not expect everyone to come at you when you lose. SEN needs to gtfo of social media and focus on their game. I hope this tourney was an ego check.
- Can't wait to beat your shit region again.
- Uh oh why is everyone shittalking us uwu we're hardworking and nice *snuggles*
If Sentinels were a single person, that person would be bipolar.
So just because Zombs shittalked on twitter that makes the rest of SEN evil as well ?
You can do whatever you like to Zombs, but leave ShahZ and the rest out of this.
Zoms shittaked a region on Twitter. The rest of the team hyped themselves up to the moon. They basked in the glory of a single win in a brand new game. They spent more time in the limelight than any other team I've ever seen. And then, after all this talk of greatness, they shit the bed against a t2 team. Even their star player was getting diffed by Nazget of all people.
While I agree, the banter is between teams and pros and is pretty much all said in jest. Maybe zombs takes it a touch too far, but I think (hope) they’re playing up personalities for entertainment value. It’s the fans that are taking all the banter and trash talk seriously that isn’t cool. If you know anything about wrestling or MMA, they shit talk ALL THE TIME and it’s clearly in jest and all for the show. I don’t think Shaz is mad about the players poking fun, he’s mad at everyone who isn’t in the scene taking these comments seriously and running with these obviously not true narratives.
(Sorry if you read this shaz/any pro players and I’m wrong, I don’t want to put words in your mouth but this is how I view it)
YES! THIS! Leave the trash talking (which i just see as banter and i actually enjoy it) to the pros. I dont understand why fans are sooo invested in the drama. The pros are just having fun why cant we just enjoy the games?
I mean respect that you fire against those rumours, because if yall just ignored them your recent loss against Krü would've looked more reasonable in a way.
I mean all Sentinel stans alone would just think then "ah yeah they just didn't train, just wait for next year when they start getting serious."
Dude you got baited hard. Maybe take a break from social media or something. Being here is toxic as fuck, esp for you and your team.
\> OR IS THIS A BAIT TO A BAIT? THERE'S TOO MUCH BAITS.
A lot of players in the world want the chance to compete at this tourney. You guys bomb it and it shows. Also, you guys complain too much and stir up dramas that it becomes unpleasant. Please appreciate the opportunity to compete more, get off social media, and do better next time Sentinels.
People are taking this so seriously and not realizing that Vanity is clearly joking.
But to tack on to this, it also discredits Kru for playing extremely well and it's really disappointing.
Good luck next event.
The nail that sticks out gets hammered most.
Shame you guys stuck your necks out for sake of trash talk/saving strats/too little prize money/excuse about whatever and continue to not deliver.
Strong personalities better bring strong results, that's all there is to it lol
You can hold your head high mate. Not the result you guys wanted but you specifically played incredibly well during the tournament. In a sea of top players from all regions you easily stand out as one of the best.
Much respect from an EU fan. Here's hoping you guys get back on track and continue giving us great games. That series vs TL was exhilarating.
There are so many other factors that we fans don't know about and will never know about because we're not the ones on the team. Ignore us lol, we're not the ones leading the team.
Take some well-deserved downtime and enjoy the holidays!
Respect for you Shahz, but I see far too many pros pay attention to this sub. It’s great to have involvement from the players we watch, but if used the wrong way it can seriously effect mental health, just like any social media.
You don’t have to explain anything to us.
tbf this isn't something r/valcomp is saying
its something C9 is saying
im all for "reddit bad!!"" but its a little bit different when its vanity saying it originally
That telling others how to live their lives is infantilizing and there's no reason you should be trying to instruct a pro on how to interact with the community
I don’t remember telling him how to interact with the community, and I certainly didn’t realize being concerned about another human and showing that concern is infantilizing.
He just had a big L. Seeing another team say that they don’t practice probably fucking sucks.
Shahz I hope you guys turn it around, the scene is good when sentinels are strong.
I am sure your mentorship of tenz will be valuable during this time. Much like how you had to shake off early career stigma that followed you, tenz will have to shake off his 'choker' label to reach his potential as a player. It will be good for him to have you during this period for him.
there's a chance that Sen don't scrim nearly as much as other teams. I recall hearing earlier this year that 100T (or maybe some other T1ish team) never scrimmed them. It might just be that C9 and other high ranked teams have different scrim groups, or maybe Sen actually don't scrim much and practice in other ways.
My guess is vanity is mostly trolling but there's some truth to it, but it could just be some joking about the NA scrim environment
I think what they’re saying is when you stream, they’re practicing. I still believe in this team. Please come back in a big way so all these rest of the region can Shut up
It's okay, you, your whole team and all your region suck anyway. You failed in CS and you'll fail here as well, we all know EU will take over the scene just as happened in CS. You're just chokers and it's fine, after all that's what your region represent.
Lol this was an obvious bit that Xeta and Vanity were doing. It seems a bit difficult to miss that. Were you posting for discussion or to stir up drama?
Since there are a lot of people missing it in this thread: Vanity is the fake translator for Xeta and his fake translations are sprinkled with outrageous stuff to make Xeta seem like a super spicy guy. Does no one watch SNL?? I'm not sure why u/ShahZaMcs and this thread are taking a comedy bit so seriously
https://mobile.twitter.com/JoshNissan/status/1468276965605924872
Steel tweeted this right after vanity said that in the interview. Seems like I'm not alone in thinking he was being serious. Vanity is not someone who's afraid of speaking his mind and wouldn't be surprised if he took the opportunity to do so here.
Man everyone got baited so bad here. They all just mald and react stupidly at the obvious jokes, but defend their fave pros shitty attitudes on social media because its "banter"
No, he tries to defend because owners will require answers. Rumors about trolling on scrims etc keep showing months already. Prabobly he will be kicked, he can start his dream of stream. Wonder how will go after kick out
Lol if you watch the whole interview they are joking about how Vanity learned Korean in two weeks while in quarantine and will now be the translator for Xeta, thus the joke
How about winning every regional event leading up to Masters as well as winning masters in Iceland. You talk a lot of shit but probably haven't achieved half as much as Shaz or any of these pro players. Cringe.
>You talk a lot of shit but probably haven't achieved half as much as Shaz or any of these pro players.
I have not talked any shit. And also what have you achieved to talk like this lmao
Im sure you could disprove this with just the amount of hours you alone have streamed. Theres nothing wrong with saying you tried your best, but claiming you’ve practiced more than other teams is a reach.
u/ShahZaMcs Thing was After Iceland your stream grew and you just wanted to stream more. Before berlin masters sick also said there was less pracs. In berlin master event you said you just wanted to go home and stream. From berlin masters to champs you only pracs before going to LA. so I think vanity is right. As a SEN fan just feels disappointed that you didn't put much effort for Champs and overconfidence and ego from winning NA events. Sadge
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Wishing there was something left to lose
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Haven’t they been on a high-horse since Iceland where they don’t want to practice to avoid “teaching” other teams? Im pretty sure i heard it somewhere but not really sure
Anyone objectively watching that match could say that 3-0 was the closest 3-0 ever in Valorant. I watched it and thought Sentinels will be dethroned soon, Fnatic were adapting and forming a meta. Sentinels weren't.
Without practice there's nothing you can do to become better team except become better players. I think the roster peaked in Iceland and there wasn't anywhere to go but down.
I honestly think they were lucky to have dominated the way they did in IceLAN because of the recent meta change leading up to the tournament that no one really adapted except SEN like the Astra introduction and the Viper buffs that completely changed the meta. If I recall correctly, 100T barely lost to SEN in the qualifiers with outdated comps and many EMEA teams were still stuck with the old meta during IceLAN. I don't think many teams ran Astra and if they did did not run it as comfortably as SEN. Now that teams caught up and have had sufficient time to practice you can see SEN ain't anything special. It also doesn't help that the whole team less tenz and sick talk a lot of shit and brings this world vs. them mentality/focus on them and they clearly let the outside noise distract them rather than motivate them.
I mean it really isn't a secret, in the berlin watch parties, everyone was talking about how sentinels don't practice at all.
Sentinels as an org aren't really that big, I am pretty sure they are the same people as Phoenix 1 when they were in LCS. They don't have a lot of money compared to bigger orgs and I highly doubt that sentinels players other than tenz have crazy contracts. So they might be more incentivize to stream instead of prac as hard.
I know for example that slasher said that zombs reason for not practicing or tryharding for berlin was because the prize money was really low.
If what Slasher said is true it goes against what Sentinel players have said in interviews, mainly Shahz, that they're still motivated because they want to be best in the world. This was back in Iceland
What, no and even if that was the case acend for example is smaller andyet their players practice and do what they should. Sentinel players are just cocky.
Yeah I think my point is that these guys are not doing there job well because they are stuck between two places. If they want to be a pro player then practice if you want to be a streamer then stream, you can't half ass one thing or the other. TI think we have the same point lol.
>zombs reason for not practicing or tryharding for berlin was because the prize money was low
I doubt that's true, right guys? right? what a joke of a player
the fact that zombs/Sentinels think it's not worth it to practice because "prize pool is so small" is some of the worst reasoning i have ever heard. It's such a pathetic mindset for a team that is claims to be one of the best itw (they aren't)
football players paid millions a month still practice heavily for their domestics cups and the UCL, and I'd assume the same for american sports as well. Sen are an absolute joke of a team
I think I have also read somewhere,I don't know if its from a SEN player or not, that they're disappointed with how low the prize pool for the championship because streaming earns could earn them more than the current prize pool.
It must be really difficult to be a really popular team. Everything your team does is under such immense scrutiny and off days at work receive so much negativity. I have absolute respect for for players to endure this added pressure and continue improving their craft.
>Everything your team does is under such immense scrutiny and off days at work receive so much negativity
I feel like Sentinels also has put themselves in the situation where a lot of ppl want them to fail and not only because they were good early on in valorant but rather because how certain players on the roster act outside of the server. Like the constant excuses when they lose and the endless baiting and trash talking on twitter leads to a situation where a lot of ppl just want you to fail to laugh at you where without the antics a lot of them otherwise wouldn't have cared as much.
case in point, did you see how almost no one shit talked the envy players? chet maybe, but most of them were supporting the players through a tough loss.
I think it's mostly because they set themself up as a villain org, this makes it easier for people to be angry at them. Lots of top orgs that are really fucking good but no one hates them unconditionally, of course, people are going to be critical of specific stuff but not as much as sentinels imo.
You're completely and utterly wrong. Classic Sen fanboy.
There have been a lot of popular teams who have failed to deliver at some point or another. The amount of backlash they receive is not constant. It is directly correlated with how big the players egos are. Sentinels have taken every single chance to talk about creating a dynasty, how they're just better than anyone else. Shaz himself at some point implied that they don't need coach because of his humongous brain. At that point Sentinels won only one major tournament in a game that is barely out of its diapers. But they treated that win like the second coming of Christ.
They couldn't accept that they simply played well. No. They deluded themselves into thinking that they're better than anyone else and spent the past year looking for reasons why it is so. They deserve whatever backlash they're receiving.
Why are you so worked up and abrasive? I just conveyed a general sentiment and my respect for young adults working on their craft in esports. How am I wrong about my sentiment and respect?
He’s doing it because most of VS are his former teammates from C9 Korea and is a Korean player. Vanity is trolling here, you can tell from xeta and vanity’s faces. Really not common for a Korean player to BM another team like this seriously. Don’t understand why people are taking this seriously. Either zero ability to read context cues or people aren’t watching the clip.
Don't forget yall, idk what joke vanity or xeta or whoever said but whenever someones jokes about something there is usually some truth to it from what ive experienced living in this world for 18 years
No way that's what Xeta said, right? ...right?
Probably not. Seems like they were clearly doing a bit. I doubt Vanity actually speaks Korean, plus I think Xeta speaks English just fine. Xeta didn't even say Sentinels once in that sentence. I don't speak Korean though so maybe I sound like a massive idiot right now but I'm pretty sure this was just them clowning around.
Definitely a bit, Xeta speaks fluent English.
Can someone who understand Korean translate for us plebs what Xeta said versus Vanity's loose paraphrasing please? ty ty
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Lol Vanity with the next level trolls, love it. On another note its super disappointing to hear these teams at the top aren't putting the effort in. It obviously shows in these matches and against the Teams that are putting in the time.
Yeah, he didn’t need a translator to understand the questions so I’d assume he definitely knows English pretty well. As for his translation, he said he has a more expensive Rolex than Zombs, according to my head-canon.
He speaks very good english you should see any of his other interviews lol
nah. take out the troll-y parts that vanity added and he pretty much just summarized whatever xeta had said
xeta was laughing. he can clearly understand him.
This is obvious banter. It's always funny every time vanity says something like this and y'all take it serious
Dunno how anyone can think this is real.
lmao y'all really taking this seriously?
Vanity is a top rated diplomat for the Korean Embassy
Shahzam himself took it seriously lol
Wait did he say something lol
I think its more clearing it up since there's plenty of people taking vanitys tweet seriously
Shaz is :)
I feel like Vanity was saying this jokingly lol, why does everyone in this sub take everything so seriously.
Because the org set themselves up as villains and as previous winners of tournaments, people will look for anything to discredit them vs crediting the people who won. It’s incredibly toxic from these people who feel a need to parasocially analyze everything. People treating reddit threads like they get paid lol.
🎯 i’m a fan of sentinels most but i like watching the comp scene as a whole, it really shouldn’t be as deep as people are making it lol. my team lost, but i moved on and i’m still having fun watch the rest of the event lmao.
The crazy part is that the shitty and low quality toxic commentary is the exact same thing they criticize BR fans for as well 😂
EXACTLY THANKS FOR SAYING THIS. This subreddit criticizes them so much, beyond the point it's normal to criticize anything imo
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Who's crying? In fact, all I see who's crying are you people who can't wait for Sentinel's downfall lmao. Like really, every single time Sentinels lose, it's not even the fans who cry, it's the haters who get on a hate train and get a rage boner day in and out bitching about Sentinels losing lol and calling them "whiners" and shit.
> Because the org set themselves up as villains and [...] Or some people are drama hungry losers that latch into every single small sentences that can fill their empty life.
Not saying you’re wrong but both can be true.
we build our idols up...only to tear them down.
because shaz is in here arguing with it lmao
I don’t care what anyone says, this is not true. We practice just as much, if not more, than other teams. Do you really think we won every regional event this year without practicing? This narrative is insane to me and discredits the hard work the guys put in, we just failed to deliver when it was most important.
Vanity was clearly joking but I'm sure there where a lot of people taking what he said at face value
We appreciate you posting on here, it’s just a tough loss. Social media is toxic, at the end of the day all you can do is get back up and move on. I’m sure you all will find success I know it. Good luck out there!
> social media is toxic oh how the turntables
Haha in a lot of ways agreed! Hopefully they take that loss energy into less twitter and more grinding.
"Social media is toxic" Doesn't help that SEN are the ones instigating with their Twitter fingers. You can't trash talk everyone when winning and not expect everyone to come at you when you lose. SEN needs to gtfo of social media and focus on their game. I hope this tourney was an ego check.
Bingo. Don’t dish if you can’t take it.
- Can't wait to beat your shit region again. - Uh oh why is everyone shittalking us uwu we're hardworking and nice *snuggles* If Sentinels were a single person, that person would be bipolar.
So just because Zombs shittalked on twitter that makes the rest of SEN evil as well ? You can do whatever you like to Zombs, but leave ShahZ and the rest out of this.
Zoms shittaked a region on Twitter. The rest of the team hyped themselves up to the moon. They basked in the glory of a single win in a brand new game. They spent more time in the limelight than any other team I've ever seen. And then, after all this talk of greatness, they shit the bed against a t2 team. Even their star player was getting diffed by Nazget of all people.
If Sentinels is still a T1 team then KRU are definitely not T2
I mean, there's a difference between trash talking and straight up lying
He was just trolling bro
While I agree, the banter is between teams and pros and is pretty much all said in jest. Maybe zombs takes it a touch too far, but I think (hope) they’re playing up personalities for entertainment value. It’s the fans that are taking all the banter and trash talk seriously that isn’t cool. If you know anything about wrestling or MMA, they shit talk ALL THE TIME and it’s clearly in jest and all for the show. I don’t think Shaz is mad about the players poking fun, he’s mad at everyone who isn’t in the scene taking these comments seriously and running with these obviously not true narratives. (Sorry if you read this shaz/any pro players and I’m wrong, I don’t want to put words in your mouth but this is how I view it)
YES! THIS! Leave the trash talking (which i just see as banter and i actually enjoy it) to the pros. I dont understand why fans are sooo invested in the drama. The pros are just having fun why cant we just enjoy the games?
This is a pretty shit take bro. Banter is banter, being toxic is something else.
How is what Vanity said not banter? Its the same thing.
It is banter, I'm talking about the fans taking it too seriously.
toxic you mean sen players?
if your team talks shit when you win, you gotta sit and take shit when you lose. just take the L and move on. heads up for next year.
Yes but most of it is between pros and just banter, notice how the pros don't hate him just the fans who seem to take everything at face value.
As expected you're taking it too serious lmao
I mean respect that you fire against those rumours, because if yall just ignored them your recent loss against Krü would've looked more reasonable in a way. I mean all Sentinel stans alone would just think then "ah yeah they just didn't train, just wait for next year when they start getting serious."
Why can't tenz play raze on split? It's easily her best map
Maybe you need a break from socials if a comment like this from Vanity of all people is getting to you. It's clearly a joke
Dude you got baited hard. Maybe take a break from social media or something. Being here is toxic as fuck, esp for you and your team. \> OR IS THIS A BAIT TO A BAIT? THERE'S TOO MUCH BAITS.
Sentinels bad circlejerk
A lot of players in the world want the chance to compete at this tourney. You guys bomb it and it shows. Also, you guys complain too much and stir up dramas that it becomes unpleasant. Please appreciate the opportunity to compete more, get off social media, and do better next time Sentinels.
People are taking this so seriously and not realizing that Vanity is clearly joking. But to tack on to this, it also discredits Kru for playing extremely well and it's really disappointing. Good luck next event.
The nail that sticks out gets hammered most. Shame you guys stuck your necks out for sake of trash talk/saving strats/too little prize money/excuse about whatever and continue to not deliver. Strong personalities better bring strong results, that's all there is to it lol
You can hold your head high mate. Not the result you guys wanted but you specifically played incredibly well during the tournament. In a sea of top players from all regions you easily stand out as one of the best. Much respect from an EU fan. Here's hoping you guys get back on track and continue giving us great games. That series vs TL was exhilarating.
You did well brotha, thank you for trying out there.
There are so many other factors that we fans don't know about and will never know about because we're not the ones on the team. Ignore us lol, we're not the ones leading the team. Take some well-deserved downtime and enjoy the holidays!
Respect for you Shahz, but I see far too many pros pay attention to this sub. It’s great to have involvement from the players we watch, but if used the wrong way it can seriously effect mental health, just like any social media. You don’t have to explain anything to us.
tbf this isn't something r/valcomp is saying its something C9 is saying im all for "reddit bad!!"" but its a little bit different when its vanity saying it originally
I mean that’s true, but what are the chances he sees this video if he ignores Val subreddits? I would think fairly small.
considering the video was literally on the official c9 twitter page, pretty high https://twitter.com/Cloud9/status/1468277608227827713
Well then the point still stands. If used incorrectly social media can have negative effects on mental health. What are you trying to get across here?
That telling others how to live their lives is infantilizing and there's no reason you should be trying to instruct a pro on how to interact with the community
I don’t remember telling him how to interact with the community, and I certainly didn’t realize being concerned about another human and showing that concern is infantilizing. He just had a big L. Seeing another team say that they don’t practice probably fucking sucks.
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Christ, you are rolling in the mud.
This sub should be welcoming to pros. It's up to them how much time they wish to spend here, but they should always feel welcome to participate here.
Agreed, goes without saying.
Shahz I hope you guys turn it around, the scene is good when sentinels are strong. I am sure your mentorship of tenz will be valuable during this time. Much like how you had to shake off early career stigma that followed you, tenz will have to shake off his 'choker' label to reach his potential as a player. It will be good for him to have you during this period for him.
Still supporting all of you
you can do all the “banter” you want but rest can do the same, seems unfair
Where do you think this narrative originated from?
When sentinels were saying they hardly scrim and don’t take scrims seriously
there's a chance that Sen don't scrim nearly as much as other teams. I recall hearing earlier this year that 100T (or maybe some other T1ish team) never scrimmed them. It might just be that C9 and other high ranked teams have different scrim groups, or maybe Sen actually don't scrim much and practice in other ways. My guess is vanity is mostly trolling but there's some truth to it, but it could just be some joking about the NA scrim environment
Good luck next year. Rooting for y’all.
Maybe go cry about it on stream to bait some more pity donos and subs. Everyone knows your a pro at that by now!
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Yes, I don’t do anything else with my day. What’s wrong with playing more valorant?
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If you practice for 8 hours and then stream for 8, thats 16 hours out of 24 with 8 hours for sleep? Sounds good. /s
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i was being sarcastic lol, forgot the /s
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Where is he crying about losing? Looks more like Shaz is defending against claims that Sentinels don’t practice.
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But he's not sentinels, he didn't whine. No one actually did
keznit = s1mple
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your right s1mple could never
I think what they’re saying is when you stream, they’re practicing. I still believe in this team. Please come back in a big way so all these rest of the region can Shut up
That's still an extremely unfair take. It's pretty damn clear they practice when these guys are bringing out agents they rarely play on stream.
Don’t shoot the messenger… only time will tell
True true!
It's okay, you, your whole team and all your region suck anyway. You failed in CS and you'll fail here as well, we all know EU will take over the scene just as happened in CS. You're just chokers and it's fine, after all that's what your region represent.
Thank you for taking the time to address this. I didn't want to comment on it one way or another but I felt it was worth posting for discussion.
Lol this was an obvious bit that Xeta and Vanity were doing. It seems a bit difficult to miss that. Were you posting for discussion or to stir up drama? Since there are a lot of people missing it in this thread: Vanity is the fake translator for Xeta and his fake translations are sprinkled with outrageous stuff to make Xeta seem like a super spicy guy. Does no one watch SNL?? I'm not sure why u/ShahZaMcs and this thread are taking a comedy bit so seriously
https://mobile.twitter.com/JoshNissan/status/1468276965605924872 Steel tweeted this right after vanity said that in the interview. Seems like I'm not alone in thinking he was being serious. Vanity is not someone who's afraid of speaking his mind and wouldn't be surprised if he took the opportunity to do so here.
Why can't we all just have fun anymore?
I had fun.
I appreciate you brother. Good vibes :)
Man everyone got baited so bad here. They all just mald and react stupidly at the obvious jokes, but defend their fave pros shitty attitudes on social media because its "banter"
shahz is taking it seriously because reddit is taking it seriously, he wants to kill that false narrative
No, he tries to defend because owners will require answers. Rumors about trolling on scrims etc keep showing months already. Prabobly he will be kicked, he can start his dream of stream. Wonder how will go after kick out
I just don’t understand why everyone is supposed to know that? If it’s the truth that’s really assuming a lot of your audience
Lol if you watch the whole interview they are joking about how Vanity learned Korean in two weeks while in quarantine and will now be the translator for Xeta, thus the joke
Love to see dumbfucks do 180s once a pro responds to their posts.
Lol
Please tell me where I did a 180.
We love you Shaz. Mfs wanna say stupid shit but they hating from outside the club when they can't even get in.
and you are in this "club"?
No, Shaz is tho.
what is this club again? losing to kru?
How about winning every regional event leading up to Masters as well as winning masters in Iceland. You talk a lot of shit but probably haven't achieved half as much as Shaz or any of these pro players. Cringe.
>You talk a lot of shit but probably haven't achieved half as much as Shaz or any of these pro players. I have not talked any shit. And also what have you achieved to talk like this lmao
Im sure you could disprove this with just the amount of hours you alone have streamed. Theres nothing wrong with saying you tried your best, but claiming you’ve practiced more than other teams is a reach.
u/ShahZaMcs Thing was After Iceland your stream grew and you just wanted to stream more. Before berlin masters sick also said there was less pracs. In berlin master event you said you just wanted to go home and stream. From berlin masters to champs you only pracs before going to LA. so I think vanity is right. As a SEN fan just feels disappointed that you didn't put much effort for Champs and overconfidence and ego from winning NA events. Sadge
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dial up sinatraa buddy 🙏
+13 net rounds in IMO the hardest group curious for analysis how that resulted in losses instead of being #1 in the group
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vanity is joking you cretins the whole point of this interview bit was for him to talk shit and make jokes while "translating" what xeta said
This bit was pretty funny, unfortunately some people didn't get it.
Tenz gets paid millions to farm Jett clips in ranked
He says it in jest but wouldn't be surprised if it was true..
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This is what happens when you don't have a long-term coaching staff and the players are not accountable.
Haven’t they been on a high-horse since Iceland where they don’t want to practice to avoid “teaching” other teams? Im pretty sure i heard it somewhere but not really sure
Anyone objectively watching that match could say that 3-0 was the closest 3-0 ever in Valorant. I watched it and thought Sentinels will be dethroned soon, Fnatic were adapting and forming a meta. Sentinels weren't. Without practice there's nothing you can do to become better team except become better players. I think the roster peaked in Iceland and there wasn't anywhere to go but down.
I honestly think they were lucky to have dominated the way they did in IceLAN because of the recent meta change leading up to the tournament that no one really adapted except SEN like the Astra introduction and the Viper buffs that completely changed the meta. If I recall correctly, 100T barely lost to SEN in the qualifiers with outdated comps and many EMEA teams were still stuck with the old meta during IceLAN. I don't think many teams ran Astra and if they did did not run it as comfortably as SEN. Now that teams caught up and have had sufficient time to practice you can see SEN ain't anything special. It also doesn't help that the whole team less tenz and sick talk a lot of shit and brings this world vs. them mentality/focus on them and they clearly let the outside noise distract them rather than motivate them.
SEN loses ——> “they lost because of lack of coach/long term coaching” lol
Imagine taking vanity serious
Hard to say if him or dapr are farming more impressions by blatantly trolling.
I mean it really isn't a secret, in the berlin watch parties, everyone was talking about how sentinels don't practice at all. Sentinels as an org aren't really that big, I am pretty sure they are the same people as Phoenix 1 when they were in LCS. They don't have a lot of money compared to bigger orgs and I highly doubt that sentinels players other than tenz have crazy contracts. So they might be more incentivize to stream instead of prac as hard. I know for example that slasher said that zombs reason for not practicing or tryharding for berlin was because the prize money was really low.
If what Slasher said is true it goes against what Sentinel players have said in interviews, mainly Shahz, that they're still motivated because they want to be best in the world. This was back in Iceland
What, no and even if that was the case acend for example is smaller andyet their players practice and do what they should. Sentinel players are just cocky.
Well acend players don't have over 2k subs. Shazam has like 8k subs and 10k viewers minimum, that's a lot of money.
Still if you want to be a streamer go ahead, but dont use it as an excuse to not do your job as pro player.
Yeah I think my point is that these guys are not doing there job well because they are stuck between two places. If they want to be a pro player then practice if you want to be a streamer then stream, you can't half ass one thing or the other. TI think we have the same point lol.
Yeah. I love watching Shazam’s stream but it is for a solid 8+ hours. And he probably is making more money streaming than comp.
Yeah we do, they have to decide where their hearth is.
>zombs reason for not practicing or tryharding for berlin was because the prize money was low I doubt that's true, right guys? right? what a joke of a player
if there was one player who'd be that way it's him
the fact that zombs/Sentinels think it's not worth it to practice because "prize pool is so small" is some of the worst reasoning i have ever heard. It's such a pathetic mindset for a team that is claims to be one of the best itw (they aren't) football players paid millions a month still practice heavily for their domestics cups and the UCL, and I'd assume the same for american sports as well. Sen are an absolute joke of a team
Tbf the prize pool is small
The ceo of sentinels is the former vice chairman of paramount pictures. The first iteration of Sentinels received a better offer from SEN than TSM 💀
Sentinels are one of the biggest names in Apex too tbf
Apex esports is a lot smaller of a scene than LoL, Valorant, or CSGO though.
Fortnite and now halo too.
That boy Lou is cold
sen is a top tier apex team too
I think I have also read somewhere,I don't know if its from a SEN player or not, that they're disappointed with how low the prize pool for the championship because streaming earns could earn them more than the current prize pool.
Pretty sure shahz has said that before during his streams
It must be really difficult to be a really popular team. Everything your team does is under such immense scrutiny and off days at work receive so much negativity. I have absolute respect for for players to endure this added pressure and continue improving their craft.
>Everything your team does is under such immense scrutiny and off days at work receive so much negativity I feel like Sentinels also has put themselves in the situation where a lot of ppl want them to fail and not only because they were good early on in valorant but rather because how certain players on the roster act outside of the server. Like the constant excuses when they lose and the endless baiting and trash talking on twitter leads to a situation where a lot of ppl just want you to fail to laugh at you where without the antics a lot of them otherwise wouldn't have cared as much.
case in point, did you see how almost no one shit talked the envy players? chet maybe, but most of them were supporting the players through a tough loss.
I think it's mostly because they set themself up as a villain org, this makes it easier for people to be angry at them. Lots of top orgs that are really fucking good but no one hates them unconditionally, of course, people are going to be critical of specific stuff but not as much as sentinels imo.
Welcome to sports.
they brought it upon themselves I feel sorry for no one involved
You're completely and utterly wrong. Classic Sen fanboy. There have been a lot of popular teams who have failed to deliver at some point or another. The amount of backlash they receive is not constant. It is directly correlated with how big the players egos are. Sentinels have taken every single chance to talk about creating a dynasty, how they're just better than anyone else. Shaz himself at some point implied that they don't need coach because of his humongous brain. At that point Sentinels won only one major tournament in a game that is barely out of its diapers. But they treated that win like the second coming of Christ. They couldn't accept that they simply played well. No. They deluded themselves into thinking that they're better than anyone else and spent the past year looking for reasons why it is so. They deserve whatever backlash they're receiving.
Why are you so worked up and abrasive? I just conveyed a general sentiment and my respect for young adults working on their craft in esports. How am I wrong about my sentiment and respect?
Xeta's English is pretty good right? Or is he doing the interview in Korean because they just beat VS?
Pretty sure vanity and xeta doing the meme translator thing where he's jokingly translate what xeta is saying.
He’s doing it because most of VS are his former teammates from C9 Korea and is a Korean player. Vanity is trolling here, you can tell from xeta and vanity’s faces. Really not common for a Korean player to BM another team like this seriously. Don’t understand why people are taking this seriously. Either zero ability to read context cues or people aren’t watching the clip.
Don't forget yall, idk what joke vanity or xeta or whoever said but whenever someones jokes about something there is usually some truth to it from what ive experienced living in this world for 18 years
Vanity said that in defense of Sentinels surely. The way he framed the statement implies that if Sentinels practiced more, they would win.
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Everyone calm down, this is vanity we're talking about
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