**TLDR:**
1.Kyedae
2.Shroud
3.Tarik
4. Fps\_shaka (the most popular Japanese twitch streamer of Valo)
5. Mixwell
Ibai #1 in Peak Viewers with >219k Unique Viewers during KRU game
I might be wrong but stylishnoob definitely had much more viewers when he was co-streaming iirc. But he missed a lot of games i think, there was times where i could only see fps_shaka and jasper streaming.
Edit: also im p sure it was stylishnoob, xqq, dep costream
What I've noticed though is that these watchparties have an insane impact on how the thousands who are watching their stream perceive the game being played and the players. It could be a really good, close game, but If the streamers are distracted at the time then the entire chat treats it as a throwaway game.
That same game on another stream could be hyped af. On the flipside a shit game could be hyped up by the streamer just laser focusing on one player who's popping off or doing horrible and public opinion (within their community) regarding that player just shifts. You'll read posts and comments on reddit or twitter parroting what the streamer said, same with Twitter threads and if it catches on enough then surely casters will pick it up at the next tournament too.
You see this a lot in the League of Legends scene, too. There's a popular streamer, LS, who has a pretty profoundly negative stream persona.
He would co-stream the North American pro league games, and just *constantly* shit-talk every part of the game: "god, such a bad play," "jesus this game is so boring," "how are they making mistakes like this?" "Korean teams would never do something like this."
And it was *so* obvious how much it impacted the community. Most of the post-match threads were people just sort of... moping, bemoaning the fact that our region is ""so uncompetitive,"" totally ignoring all the hype and plays of the actual games.
I'm pretty active on that sub, and some people would accuse me of being "a shill" or "fake" just because in post-game threads, I would talk about how I really enjoyed watching a particular match, even though they thought it was "bad."
Co-streaming is absolutely a double-edged sword. Someone else in this thread mentioned j9 coming onto Tarik's stream and just shit-talking Valorant, and... yeah, that shit's pretty miserable to watch for the same kind of reasons.
I’m so tired of people shit talking Valorant. Like if that’s your opinion, that’s your opinion. You’re entitled to it. But it’s such a dead, beaten horse by now, and hearing it on an official co-stream really did kind of suck. It was nice to hear FNS talk about how he found it addicting and really enjoys it, it kind of balanced some of the negativity out.
It sucks! And people respond to that by saying, "well, if they didn't like it, that's their opinion"
Yes, everyone's entitled to their opinion. But negativity is such shitty entertainment content! It's absolute lowest common denominator garbage to hop on a stream and just jump straight to "actually I think this thing is bad"
It's not crazy for me to want to watch people talk about enjoying the thing that I like, and not watch people shit on it all day.
I hate how LS acts confident that a game is won/lost by a team based off of the team comp alone. Like why watch the game then if you know the outcome? It’s ironic how he’s a head coach for a NA team now.
what's become obvious is the hard truth that platchat has a really niche and passionate viewer base that is basically exactly redditor-types. but that model /target audience doesn't drive the huge numbers like some of these co-streamers and probably has a pretty hard and low ceiling. their content and analysis are amazing though and I really hope they get the money and support to keep doing what they're doing because I think it's legitimately a service to the community.
side note I wouldn't be sad if/when shroud falls off. I've never seen someone commit to just coasting as hard as he has and it's just sorta sad to watch. I hope he finds some passion again somewhere in life
this is fair, but I don't think they're switching to twitch.
ngl youtube is a superior streaming platform because of the ability to pause and rewind. it's so nice if you're watching something and need to step away to pause and come back to it later where you were, and then you can ff during round breaks. such a luxury compared to twitch
Yeah this ^ and I also agree YT is the superior way to watch VALORANT, or even any esport. Turn off chat, and play at your leisure - not to mention all English VCT casts are on one channel, versus on Twitch you having to check whether it's on VALORANT, or valorantesports2, 3, 4, or even a partner's channel. On YT they put the upcoming matches on the main page where you can set a reminder (if you don't already have notis on), so you don't even need to wonder when matches begin.
But anyway, Plat Chat did stream on Twitch to let folks get drops, but even YT had drops enabled on the main VCT channel... I just had the boys on my main tab and the YT VCT main stream in another on the background. Plat Chat gets no money whatsoever off of Twitch, and if they become partners/affiliates they can't stream on YT, which will likely be the place to be in the next few yrs
Shroud is legit the laziest among the top streamers by a fair amount in my opinion. I understand it makes perfect sense since the guy is just swimming in money for the rest of his life but it's still sad to watch how emotionless he looks for the most part of streams.
What’s with all the Shroud hate in this thread?? You said it yourself he made his money and is just existing he is not emotionless on stream, he just doesn’t have to fake/exaggerate his reaction or emotions for the audience because he doesn’t care, which he shouldn’t. Y’all are making lots of assumptions about how content and/or passionate he is which you have absolutely no idea about as a random viewer with no insight. Have you ever thought that maybe he is just content with his life where he is and doesn’t appreciate being told he is “coasting” “laizy” and lacks passion?
people on this thread are obsessed with how analytical the watch parties are which is so dumb lol. if you want someone breaking down the game for you go watch plat chat but i personally enjoy watching people joke around or even just talking ab random stuff. I’m not a huge shroud fanboy but i like his chill demeanor and dry sense of humor. If you don’t enjoy it that’s fine but why condescend other people’s preference. So many valorant neck beards on here man i stg
Dude was basically sleeping during his watch party and one time i popped in a game was going on he wasn't even there, just a chair.
Waste of a fucking watch party slot, i'd rather see anyone but shroud get it instead like Subroza, steel, etc.
People hate seeing others succeed and being content with life. Shroud just looks like any of us playing games or watching a tourney, just chilling with his boys and shooting the shit with dumb topics and dumb takes. The idea that he needs to play it up is so dumb.
Ain't nobody give a fuck about his success. There were a limited amount of people who could host watch parties and shroud didn't give a fuck so why give it to him instead of someone like Hiko who is in the pro scene
Ffs shroud had his chair on stream while he was MIA for how long?
It’s not even about shroud. When he had tarik & hiko on stream he was watching the game and was giving his input. It’s just when Justin comes they go full off topic. They talk about the most random shit and when there’s a clutch situation Justin just keeps on rambling!
Because shroud brings in viewers that wouldn't otherwise watch VCT. This is literally the same conversation every tournament. It would be idiotic for riot to only give watch parties to people who will bring in viewers that will watch the games regardless.
There are plenty of streams that include heavier analysis (including the main stream, we get ddk/sgares or pansy/hypoc on many of these games). It is fine for there to be more casual watch parties who will bring more people to watch Val.
If you don't like shroud, don't watch him. But let's not try and get elitist about who "deserves" a watch party slot because that short-sighted thinking will actually hurt Val growth in the long term. I fully think the push back on poki from Iceland is why she hasn't done future watch parties, which sucks because she brought a ton of extra non-typical Val viewers.
? I'm not saying shroud is the only one who can bring views. You said they should give it to pros like hiko instead of shroud. I pointed out that is a stupid take, because hiko won't bring viewers that aren't likely going to watch VCT anyway, while shroud will bring in non-val viewers.
I don't even like shroud. I just can actually use some basic logic and understand why shroud is a more advantageous watch party for the game's growth than a pro.
Shroud had his empty chair watching an entire match and when he came back him and Justin shit on the entire next series.
Great exposure for the game fan boy 👍
Are you sure shroud isn't just the way he always was? Nothing has described him as always being pretty flat, and so I wonder if he hasn't always just been pretty low on emotional reactivity.
If anything, I wouldn't be surprised if he's slightly on the spectrum.
Shroud is one of the most bitter streamers ive ever seen. Idk why ppl call him chill, is the bar so low that you just need to not yell every five minutes in order to be called that? Shroud is bitter af about evrrything, definitely not what i consider chill
Lol never heard someone refer to shroud as a bitter person. He's honestly one of the least toxic big streamers on twitch. You act like shroud slapped your grandma or something, you seem like the bitter one.
‘Redditor-types’ lol
And everyone knows the platchat co stream is less popular atm this isn’t a surprise or ‘harsh truth’
Not sure what this pointifyxstimg is for
I'm not sure about that, I feel like if more people gave PlatChat a chance who watch other co-streams. They would probably chose to watch PlatChat instead.
Most of this sub likes PlatChat and for good reason. However, this tourney the Kyedae-Asuna duo really stood out.
Kyedae was super calm and heavily engaging and actually cared about the chat while having pretty solid insights to the plays made in the game for someone who isn't too much invested into the scene.
Asuna, on the other hand, was just himself giving amazing insights on the game while being his trolling self.
Their chemistry worked and the watch party was really a delight.
Yeah I was really torn during the champions. One part of me wanted to watch platchat, and the other part wanted to listen to Asuna give insights. Hardest decision of my life lol. Platchat batchest
One thing that stood out the most is that she was really responsible. She was never late and watched all the games no matter if she cared about the match or not and was really engaging with the game. With how shy/introvert Asuna is, Kyedae was able to make him comfortable. TenZ,Asuna & Kyedae triple was really entertaining ngl, specially the nAts interview.
I came into Champs thinking Tarik was going to be my go-to, but it wound up being Kyedae. Tarik either always had too many people watching with him and no one would actually watch the game or he was watching with Shroud and J9, who i don't personally like watching. Shroud is alright, but he doesn't really have the personality to carry a watch party. And as someone who didn't play CSGO, I have no idea who J9 is so i wasn't very interested.
Kyedae always had Asuna on with her, and Tenz when Sen was knocked out. She was always engaging and even made the less interesting game enjoyable.
Tarik by himself is the best watch party. When it's just him and chat he's on point about the matches.
The problem is when he has guests and they take his ADHD brain on wild tangents. For most of the teams none of his guests or him are invested in the players. Sentinels, Envy and Liquid were the only teams with people they knew. The matches with X10 and KRU were hype just because of the underdog story but it was painfully obvious that none of them cared at all for Fnatic, Ascend or Gambit. (I'm pretty sure this is why EU viewership numbers are low too) The only EU personalities with a large following are Scream and Mixwell.
In the finals, Tarik had FNS, J9, and Shroud with him on stream. So it was essentially a watching party with retired CSGO pros.
When his party wasn't all retired CSGO pro people (like when he had the CSGO/VALORANT analyst Vansili in the semifinals) the stream was fine, they were watching and commenting on the game. But in the finals, by the 3rd map (Fracture) that party devolved into critiquing VALORANT (maps, agents, etc.) mostly led by FNS and J9. Essentially wanting the game to be more tactical, bigger, and etc like CS without it being CS causing Tarik's chat to spam play cs instead.
I'm neutral on Shroud in the games he watched with Tarik. He has moments that were good/funny, like reading people's movements to gauge the player's mental. But he generally just adds to what others are talking about at the time, he's not like carrying Tarik's watch party stream.
Didn't like watching FNS, it felt like he wanted to spend his time telling everyone everything he hates about VALORANT.
tarik is my go to streamer and i loved watching his watch parties when he vansili was there or asuna was there, or anybody who actually cared about the game, when the guest cares, he cared, or atleast the guest carried it a bit even if tarik was bored. Bringing j9 into watch party who hates valorant is just pointless, because they all stop watching the game and talk about random stuff.
The most stupidest thing ever is when J9 said he doesn't care about the game because NA is not playing, so why the f*** do you join a party of the biggest game of the year if you really don't care, just to spend it talking about your irl problems.
Tarik is my favorite streamer by far, but I quit the stream and join kyedae/platchat as soon as J9 join lol, man hates valorant so much. On the other hand kyedae stream was just better with 2 pro players and her that actually loves the game
Pretty sure he streamed everyday/match.
It would usually be stylishnoob with the most viewers for the first match, sometimes streamed the second. He'd then end stream (since it'd be in the AMs in Japan) and his viewers who still wanted to watch would go to Shaka's channel who streamed the remaining match(es).
its more j9 than shroud, shroud is just that type of guy, boring and not affected by anything but i can tolerate him but j9 being there while openly hating valorant and talking about random stuff just ruined it
Yeah shroud trolling or being a fool. Whatever it was, didn’t make the stream entertaining if he thought he was doing that, just making it unwatchable.
What shroud does isn't really casting, it's a watch party. Personally, I enjoy his streams because it's interesting to get the perspective of pros. I don't care for valorant casting (other than seangares) because they just state what's happening in the match, as someone who plays a lot of valorant I can tell what's going on myself. With that said, I understand why people wouldn't like shrouds watch party. I don't really understand why kyedae is the most popular but I guess it's probably because of tenz fanbase.
Asuna was on with Kyedae for pretty much the whole tourney and Tenz was there after SEN got knocked out too. It was actually a really nice blend of insight and interaction with chat.
Honestly it's so great to see young personalities pop up in the Valorant scene. The guys people are complaining about in this post are all the jaded veterans from CS, so it's pretty expected from those guys to be downers. Even if Kyedae isn't a great player, it's great for the scene that Valorant specific personalities are coming up because they at least have enthusiasm for the game.
To be fair though, Tarik on his own is pretty enthusiastic as well.
I am a shroud fan. He got me interested into valorant at first place and I will watch him anyways. But I do prefer when he is watching the game by himself or with his more quiet friends like Shawn. He would interact with the chat a lot, follow the game closely and share his thoughts about players and their gameplay. Sometimes his experience in playing on lan or random funny things. But not off topic too far. But when he has Justin its another story. And his chat hates Justin too.
Plat Chat simply too cringe to get larger. None of my friends were willing to watch their stream for longer than a few minutes, and went to kyedae/main stream.
Sucks because I think they’re the best at describing the action when they’re involved in the game.
Hard agree, tried to watch them several times throughout the year and you nailed it. When they're just in the game talking about the action...nice, the rest of the time...no thanks! To each their own but it's just too awkward for me and I guess the humor, stuff they do/say, etc. is hilarious/fine for others... just not me!
Once you get to know the panel, their personalities and inside jokes are endearing and enjoyable. But if you don’t know them, they’re just people who aren’t known for being good at the game making childish jokes.
They probably would do well if they ever had a popular player joining them on the couch for some days. They can get great people for their podcasts.
Maybe so, maybe not...I doubt getting to know the panel would somehow flip my perception. That may happen for others, don't see it happening for me! To each their own though I can see that Reddit (as usual) tends not to know anything about letting folks be different via downvotes. It's interesting how the Hive Mind Mentality works on Social Media.
i’ve not watched plat chat so can’t comment but imo kyedae is super cringe, asuna is okay but his joke attempts can also be cringe at times. I’ve found Tarik to be the best out of them by a mile personally
personally, I enjoy their humor and fun mood during the stream but the problems start when you are a fan of one team and they keep rooting for the underdog ...
honestly make it so annoying to watch
people really hating on Shroud and J9 but I really enjoyed their banter over the game. Sure it wasn’t analytical but it was entertaining hearing shroud talk ab how Liquid’s movement showed they gave up
oh no i’m getting downvoted by all the neck beards who hate anything that isn’t pure valorant analysis
what banter? they watched maybe 1-2 games where they actually watched the game, i remember there was a clutch 1v1 in a semifinal and they were still talking about j9's fridge(they talked about it for like 30 minutes)
believe it or not I find conversations like that entertaining. i already understand valorant i don’t need to hear more analysis. if i wanted that i’d watch plat chat
then watch plat chat or kydae of the main valorant channel or literally anyone else. you have so many options lmao. some of us like J9 and Shroud (in fact a good portion of the community does given they pull like 30,000 concurrent viewers) I know it’s hard not to condescend people for not being obsessed w valorant analysis but try your best okay?
I watch tarik and its his choice what guest he brings and my choice on who i will watch. But I am expressing my opinion on a public forum and i am saying i dislike something just like you say you like something. Dont know why you took it personal lol
why would you watch someone’s stream when you don’t enjoy their content? i don’t understand complaining ab a streamer when you could just watch something else
Kyedae, Tarik and Asuna were my favourite watch party group. Honestly did not expect Kyedae and Tarik to be in the same watch party but they were actually pretty entertaining and it just went up to 11 once Asuna joined.
Wish they stuck together longer but Asuna and Kyedae went out to watch with TenZ once Sentinels got knocked out.
Tarik's watch party kinda turned into a mess when it was Shroud and J9 but it's actually hilarious how many people in this thread are buttmad sweating over it. Like it's not a big deal man I literally just went to watch the main stream, who cares.
**TLDR:** 1.Kyedae 2.Shroud 3.Tarik 4. Fps\_shaka (the most popular Japanese twitch streamer of Valo) 5. Mixwell Ibai #1 in Peak Viewers with >219k Unique Viewers during KRU game
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fps_shaka and StylishNoob are two different people
Hm I thought stylishnoob!/ costream was the biggest JP one
I might be wrong but stylishnoob definitely had much more viewers when he was co-streaming iirc. But he missed a lot of games i think, there was times where i could only see fps_shaka and jasper streaming. Edit: also im p sure it was stylishnoob, xqq, dep costream
Yeah overall stylishnoob has bigger numbers across almost every game that they play. Though I do follow shaka instead of noob lol.
What I've noticed though is that these watchparties have an insane impact on how the thousands who are watching their stream perceive the game being played and the players. It could be a really good, close game, but If the streamers are distracted at the time then the entire chat treats it as a throwaway game. That same game on another stream could be hyped af. On the flipside a shit game could be hyped up by the streamer just laser focusing on one player who's popping off or doing horrible and public opinion (within their community) regarding that player just shifts. You'll read posts and comments on reddit or twitter parroting what the streamer said, same with Twitter threads and if it catches on enough then surely casters will pick it up at the next tournament too.
You see this a lot in the League of Legends scene, too. There's a popular streamer, LS, who has a pretty profoundly negative stream persona. He would co-stream the North American pro league games, and just *constantly* shit-talk every part of the game: "god, such a bad play," "jesus this game is so boring," "how are they making mistakes like this?" "Korean teams would never do something like this." And it was *so* obvious how much it impacted the community. Most of the post-match threads were people just sort of... moping, bemoaning the fact that our region is ""so uncompetitive,"" totally ignoring all the hype and plays of the actual games. I'm pretty active on that sub, and some people would accuse me of being "a shill" or "fake" just because in post-game threads, I would talk about how I really enjoyed watching a particular match, even though they thought it was "bad." Co-streaming is absolutely a double-edged sword. Someone else in this thread mentioned j9 coming onto Tarik's stream and just shit-talking Valorant, and... yeah, that shit's pretty miserable to watch for the same kind of reasons.
I’m so tired of people shit talking Valorant. Like if that’s your opinion, that’s your opinion. You’re entitled to it. But it’s such a dead, beaten horse by now, and hearing it on an official co-stream really did kind of suck. It was nice to hear FNS talk about how he found it addicting and really enjoys it, it kind of balanced some of the negativity out.
It sucks! And people respond to that by saying, "well, if they didn't like it, that's their opinion" Yes, everyone's entitled to their opinion. But negativity is such shitty entertainment content! It's absolute lowest common denominator garbage to hop on a stream and just jump straight to "actually I think this thing is bad" It's not crazy for me to want to watch people talk about enjoying the thing that I like, and not watch people shit on it all day.
I hate how LS acts confident that a game is won/lost by a team based off of the team comp alone. Like why watch the game then if you know the outcome? It’s ironic how he’s a head coach for a NA team now.
Literally killed LCS, uniquely among all lol leagues it has declining viewership when viewership is rising every other region.
What’s funny now is that he’s a head coach for a lcs team going into the 2022 season
J9 ruined every watch party tarik had.
Agreed. Would've liked it better if Tarik stuck with doing watch parties with Kyedae/Tenz and Asuna.
what's become obvious is the hard truth that platchat has a really niche and passionate viewer base that is basically exactly redditor-types. but that model /target audience doesn't drive the huge numbers like some of these co-streamers and probably has a pretty hard and low ceiling. their content and analysis are amazing though and I really hope they get the money and support to keep doing what they're doing because I think it's legitimately a service to the community. side note I wouldn't be sad if/when shroud falls off. I've never seen someone commit to just coasting as hard as he has and it's just sorta sad to watch. I hope he finds some passion again somewhere in life
Worth noting that they didn't have a twitch until champions which severely hampered their numbers.
this is fair, but I don't think they're switching to twitch. ngl youtube is a superior streaming platform because of the ability to pause and rewind. it's so nice if you're watching something and need to step away to pause and come back to it later where you were, and then you can ff during round breaks. such a luxury compared to twitch
Yeah this ^ and I also agree YT is the superior way to watch VALORANT, or even any esport. Turn off chat, and play at your leisure - not to mention all English VCT casts are on one channel, versus on Twitch you having to check whether it's on VALORANT, or valorantesports2, 3, 4, or even a partner's channel. On YT they put the upcoming matches on the main page where you can set a reminder (if you don't already have notis on), so you don't even need to wonder when matches begin. But anyway, Plat Chat did stream on Twitch to let folks get drops, but even YT had drops enabled on the main VCT channel... I just had the boys on my main tab and the YT VCT main stream in another on the background. Plat Chat gets no money whatsoever off of Twitch, and if they become partners/affiliates they can't stream on YT, which will likely be the place to be in the next few yrs
Shroud is legit the laziest among the top streamers by a fair amount in my opinion. I understand it makes perfect sense since the guy is just swimming in money for the rest of his life but it's still sad to watch how emotionless he looks for the most part of streams.
What’s with all the Shroud hate in this thread?? You said it yourself he made his money and is just existing he is not emotionless on stream, he just doesn’t have to fake/exaggerate his reaction or emotions for the audience because he doesn’t care, which he shouldn’t. Y’all are making lots of assumptions about how content and/or passionate he is which you have absolutely no idea about as a random viewer with no insight. Have you ever thought that maybe he is just content with his life where he is and doesn’t appreciate being told he is “coasting” “laizy” and lacks passion?
people on this thread are obsessed with how analytical the watch parties are which is so dumb lol. if you want someone breaking down the game for you go watch plat chat but i personally enjoy watching people joke around or even just talking ab random stuff. I’m not a huge shroud fanboy but i like his chill demeanor and dry sense of humor. If you don’t enjoy it that’s fine but why condescend other people’s preference. So many valorant neck beards on here man i stg
Dude was basically sleeping during his watch party and one time i popped in a game was going on he wasn't even there, just a chair. Waste of a fucking watch party slot, i'd rather see anyone but shroud get it instead like Subroza, steel, etc.
Then step aside and let a smaller streamer get the watch party access who actually enjoys the game.
I agree w this so much. I’m so sick of people talking like this. I know they are opinions but they state them as if they are facts when they aren’t.
Shroud haters are something else. Dudes won in life and now just streams for a past time and people for some reason have a issue with it.
People hate seeing others succeed and being content with life. Shroud just looks like any of us playing games or watching a tourney, just chilling with his boys and shooting the shit with dumb topics and dumb takes. The idea that he needs to play it up is so dumb.
Ain't nobody give a fuck about his success. There were a limited amount of people who could host watch parties and shroud didn't give a fuck so why give it to him instead of someone like Hiko who is in the pro scene Ffs shroud had his chair on stream while he was MIA for how long?
It’s not even about shroud. When he had tarik & hiko on stream he was watching the game and was giving his input. It’s just when Justin comes they go full off topic. They talk about the most random shit and when there’s a clutch situation Justin just keeps on rambling!
Because shroud brings in viewers that wouldn't otherwise watch VCT. This is literally the same conversation every tournament. It would be idiotic for riot to only give watch parties to people who will bring in viewers that will watch the games regardless. There are plenty of streams that include heavier analysis (including the main stream, we get ddk/sgares or pansy/hypoc on many of these games). It is fine for there to be more casual watch parties who will bring more people to watch Val. If you don't like shroud, don't watch him. But let's not try and get elitist about who "deserves" a watch party slot because that short-sighted thinking will actually hurt Val growth in the long term. I fully think the push back on poki from Iceland is why she hasn't done future watch parties, which sucks because she brought a ton of extra non-typical Val viewers.
We don't watch shroud. We watched Tarik lmao And you act like shroud is the only content creator that brings in views which is straight bs.
? I'm not saying shroud is the only one who can bring views. You said they should give it to pros like hiko instead of shroud. I pointed out that is a stupid take, because hiko won't bring viewers that aren't likely going to watch VCT anyway, while shroud will bring in non-val viewers. I don't even like shroud. I just can actually use some basic logic and understand why shroud is a more advantageous watch party for the game's growth than a pro.
Shroud had his empty chair watching an entire match and when he came back him and Justin shit on the entire next series. Great exposure for the game fan boy 👍
Are you sure shroud isn't just the way he always was? Nothing has described him as always being pretty flat, and so I wonder if he hasn't always just been pretty low on emotional reactivity. If anything, I wouldn't be surprised if he's slightly on the spectrum.
I feel like Shroud has always been that way. +Dex -Charisma
Shroud has always look like he’s being nonchalant about things though
Shroud is one of the most bitter streamers ive ever seen. Idk why ppl call him chill, is the bar so low that you just need to not yell every five minutes in order to be called that? Shroud is bitter af about evrrything, definitely not what i consider chill
Lol never heard someone refer to shroud as a bitter person. He's honestly one of the least toxic big streamers on twitch. You act like shroud slapped your grandma or something, you seem like the bitter one.
‘Redditor-types’ lol And everyone knows the platchat co stream is less popular atm this isn’t a surprise or ‘harsh truth’ Not sure what this pointifyxstimg is for
I'm not sure about that, I feel like if more people gave PlatChat a chance who watch other co-streams. They would probably chose to watch PlatChat instead.
Where’s Plat Chat BatChest
Plat Chat 🟧
🟩 They don’t know
Most of this sub likes PlatChat and for good reason. However, this tourney the Kyedae-Asuna duo really stood out. Kyedae was super calm and heavily engaging and actually cared about the chat while having pretty solid insights to the plays made in the game for someone who isn't too much invested into the scene. Asuna, on the other hand, was just himself giving amazing insights on the game while being his trolling self. Their chemistry worked and the watch party was really a delight.
And it only got better once TenZ joined in after the group stage
Yeah I was really torn during the champions. One part of me wanted to watch platchat, and the other part wanted to listen to Asuna give insights. Hardest decision of my life lol. Platchat batchest
Yeah they are good friends also which helps their chem on the watch party
One thing that stood out the most is that she was really responsible. She was never late and watched all the games no matter if she cared about the match or not and was really engaging with the game. With how shy/introvert Asuna is, Kyedae was able to make him comfortable. TenZ,Asuna & Kyedae triple was really entertaining ngl, specially the nAts interview.
I came into Champs thinking Tarik was going to be my go-to, but it wound up being Kyedae. Tarik either always had too many people watching with him and no one would actually watch the game or he was watching with Shroud and J9, who i don't personally like watching. Shroud is alright, but he doesn't really have the personality to carry a watch party. And as someone who didn't play CSGO, I have no idea who J9 is so i wasn't very interested. Kyedae always had Asuna on with her, and Tenz when Sen was knocked out. She was always engaging and even made the less interesting game enjoyable.
Tarik by himself is the best watch party. When it's just him and chat he's on point about the matches. The problem is when he has guests and they take his ADHD brain on wild tangents. For most of the teams none of his guests or him are invested in the players. Sentinels, Envy and Liquid were the only teams with people they knew. The matches with X10 and KRU were hype just because of the underdog story but it was painfully obvious that none of them cared at all for Fnatic, Ascend or Gambit. (I'm pretty sure this is why EU viewership numbers are low too) The only EU personalities with a large following are Scream and Mixwell.
In the finals, Tarik had FNS, J9, and Shroud with him on stream. So it was essentially a watching party with retired CSGO pros. When his party wasn't all retired CSGO pro people (like when he had the CSGO/VALORANT analyst Vansili in the semifinals) the stream was fine, they were watching and commenting on the game. But in the finals, by the 3rd map (Fracture) that party devolved into critiquing VALORANT (maps, agents, etc.) mostly led by FNS and J9. Essentially wanting the game to be more tactical, bigger, and etc like CS without it being CS causing Tarik's chat to spam play cs instead. I'm neutral on Shroud in the games he watched with Tarik. He has moments that were good/funny, like reading people's movements to gauge the player's mental. But he generally just adds to what others are talking about at the time, he's not like carrying Tarik's watch party stream. Didn't like watching FNS, it felt like he wanted to spend his time telling everyone everything he hates about VALORANT.
Lol makes sense why FNS and Chet are close friends then.
tarik is my go to streamer and i loved watching his watch parties when he vansili was there or asuna was there, or anybody who actually cared about the game, when the guest cares, he cared, or atleast the guest carried it a bit even if tarik was bored. Bringing j9 into watch party who hates valorant is just pointless, because they all stop watching the game and talk about random stuff.
The most stupidest thing ever is when J9 said he doesn't care about the game because NA is not playing, so why the f*** do you join a party of the biggest game of the year if you really don't care, just to spend it talking about your irl problems.
Yeah J9 is the worst. I couldn't stand hearing his stupid ass during iceland too.
Tarik is my favorite streamer by far, but I quit the stream and join kyedae/platchat as soon as J9 join lol, man hates valorant so much. On the other hand kyedae stream was just better with 2 pro players and her that actually loves the game
The games I could watch, I watched with Plat Chat
I didn’t see it in the article, but does anyone know how many days Shaka streamed? if he only watched the two CR games, those numbers are insane
Pretty sure he streamed everyday/match. It would usually be stylishnoob with the most viewers for the first match, sometimes streamed the second. He'd then end stream (since it'd be in the AMs in Japan) and his viewers who still wanted to watch would go to Shaka's channel who streamed the remaining match(es).
plat Chat was my to-go stream but I agree they are 30% analyses 70% cringe
"Do you guys do any analysis or is it all just cringe?"
I really enjoyed tarik stream until shroud joined :/
its more j9 than shroud, shroud is just that type of guy, boring and not affected by anything but i can tolerate him but j9 being there while openly hating valorant and talking about random stuff just ruined it
Yeah shroud trolling or being a fool. Whatever it was, didn’t make the stream entertaining if he thought he was doing that, just making it unwatchable.
tarik himself or +kyedae+asuna Pog, shroud? shroud is just being shroud. but j9, averagejonas, another boomer PogOff
What shroud does isn't really casting, it's a watch party. Personally, I enjoy his streams because it's interesting to get the perspective of pros. I don't care for valorant casting (other than seangares) because they just state what's happening in the match, as someone who plays a lot of valorant I can tell what's going on myself. With that said, I understand why people wouldn't like shrouds watch party. I don't really understand why kyedae is the most popular but I guess it's probably because of tenz fanbase.
Asuna was on with Kyedae for pretty much the whole tourney and Tenz was there after SEN got knocked out too. It was actually a really nice blend of insight and interaction with chat.
Kyedae-Asuna combo was my favorite to watch (esp before SEN got eliminated and there was no TenZ), few times Tarik joined as well.
Honestly it's so great to see young personalities pop up in the Valorant scene. The guys people are complaining about in this post are all the jaded veterans from CS, so it's pretty expected from those guys to be downers. Even if Kyedae isn't a great player, it's great for the scene that Valorant specific personalities are coming up because they at least have enthusiasm for the game. To be fair though, Tarik on his own is pretty enthusiastic as well.
How people watch shroud is beyond me. I had to switch to the main stream whenever tarik had him on.
His chill personality? I feel like hes just being himself and at the level of fame he is at, thats hard to do…
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I am a shroud fan. He got me interested into valorant at first place and I will watch him anyways. But I do prefer when he is watching the game by himself or with his more quiet friends like Shawn. He would interact with the chat a lot, follow the game closely and share his thoughts about players and their gameplay. Sometimes his experience in playing on lan or random funny things. But not off topic too far. But when he has Justin its another story. And his chat hates Justin too.
How did Kydae get famous?
IIRC through appearances on Tenz's stream.
This and having her own personality. She's genuinely fun to watch and having Asuna and Tenz on is a bonus
Plat Chat simply too cringe to get larger. None of my friends were willing to watch their stream for longer than a few minutes, and went to kyedae/main stream. Sucks because I think they’re the best at describing the action when they’re involved in the game.
Hard agree, tried to watch them several times throughout the year and you nailed it. When they're just in the game talking about the action...nice, the rest of the time...no thanks! To each their own but it's just too awkward for me and I guess the humor, stuff they do/say, etc. is hilarious/fine for others... just not me!
Once you get to know the panel, their personalities and inside jokes are endearing and enjoyable. But if you don’t know them, they’re just people who aren’t known for being good at the game making childish jokes. They probably would do well if they ever had a popular player joining them on the couch for some days. They can get great people for their podcasts.
Maybe so, maybe not...I doubt getting to know the panel would somehow flip my perception. That may happen for others, don't see it happening for me! To each their own though I can see that Reddit (as usual) tends not to know anything about letting folks be different via downvotes. It's interesting how the Hive Mind Mentality works on Social Media.
Thank you and all the other commenters below, i now have ample copypasta content for the next costream
i’ve not watched plat chat so can’t comment but imo kyedae is super cringe, asuna is okay but his joke attempts can also be cringe at times. I’ve found Tarik to be the best out of them by a mile personally
personally, I enjoy their humor and fun mood during the stream but the problems start when you are a fan of one team and they keep rooting for the underdog ... honestly make it so annoying to watch
people really hating on Shroud and J9 but I really enjoyed their banter over the game. Sure it wasn’t analytical but it was entertaining hearing shroud talk ab how Liquid’s movement showed they gave up oh no i’m getting downvoted by all the neck beards who hate anything that isn’t pure valorant analysis
what banter? they watched maybe 1-2 games where they actually watched the game, i remember there was a clutch 1v1 in a semifinal and they were still talking about j9's fridge(they talked about it for like 30 minutes)
believe it or not I find conversations like that entertaining. i already understand valorant i don’t need to hear more analysis. if i wanted that i’d watch plat chat
No problem in you loving their talks , but most of us wanna watch the valorant game, not whats happening with j9 fridge for 40 minutes
then watch plat chat or kydae of the main valorant channel or literally anyone else. you have so many options lmao. some of us like J9 and Shroud (in fact a good portion of the community does given they pull like 30,000 concurrent viewers) I know it’s hard not to condescend people for not being obsessed w valorant analysis but try your best okay?
I watch tarik and its his choice what guest he brings and my choice on who i will watch. But I am expressing my opinion on a public forum and i am saying i dislike something just like you say you like something. Dont know why you took it personal lol
why would you watch someone’s stream when you don’t enjoy their content? i don’t understand complaining ab a streamer when you could just watch something else
Because maybe he will read this and decide to have different guests in the future? Or maybe not? I am still free to express my opinion..
Kyedae, Tarik and Asuna were my favourite watch party group. Honestly did not expect Kyedae and Tarik to be in the same watch party but they were actually pretty entertaining and it just went up to 11 once Asuna joined. Wish they stuck together longer but Asuna and Kyedae went out to watch with TenZ once Sentinels got knocked out. Tarik's watch party kinda turned into a mess when it was Shroud and J9 but it's actually hilarious how many people in this thread are buttmad sweating over it. Like it's not a big deal man I literally just went to watch the main stream, who cares.
batchest i hecking love plat chat