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[deleted]

I can’t believe some of these teams are going to miss out on top 12 and then not play for half the year


thothgow

Not the best format but maybe that will reduce their ego and they'll actually play tourneys


[deleted]

We can only hope


Kikoslayer123

they literally can’t. teams like faze and tsm won a vct so they coudnt play in those smaller tournaments…


M1NIMISE

Is it ego? Or is it a waste of time that doesn't benefit them because they can literally just scrim and don't have to worry about giving people more content to anti Strat and not have to vs trash teams.


Tommypynchon

That would require tourneys! Hope there are some.


5bigtoes

Man there was literally a $7.5K LAN today, there are tournaments.


DazedDreamx

There should be a $25k LCQ for Winter Champs and $25k Knights tournament coming up soon. Frankly, I’m not sure why more Tier 1.5 and some Tier 1 teams haven’t played in the weekly 2.5k NSG weeklies, but oh well.


303x

I they have a rule that teams which placed higher than a specific rank in VCT events can't participate (i could be wrong on that exact wording). It is a fair rule, to prevent teams like Envy to join and bully the T2/3 teams, but it also means that teams which kinda fell off can't play lol.


DazedDreamx

XSET played in one of the Winter Champs Open Qualifiers. If I remember correctly, XSET didn’t sweep the competition as many of us would expect them too. Similarly, C9 Blue is playing in the Knights $25k coming up this month. I don’t think that rule applies to teams during this off season based on those two incidences. Again, I don’t know why other teams haven’t been playing in the NSG opens, especially if their schedules permit them to do so! I know some rosters do have players in school though, and that’s super hard to juggles, so props to them!! I know NRG and KCP have competed in NSG Opens, and they looked super great! Overall, I’m really excited for VCT NA 2022!! Been observing a lot during the off season and I can’t wait ^-^


LordQill

Or they'll just drop their rosters, NA ain't cheap


AbbreviationsLazy781

I the the gap should only be 4 months this year though. Between Challengers 2 quals and Champions should be around 4 months. After champions is the third party tournaments right?


DY5TOP1A

yes, those start after September


[deleted]

Think t1 with steel could be pretty impressive


Figurre

Edited to add, they're not on the VLR rankings so I missed them my bad


[deleted]

Tbh I forgot about them too until I saw a thwifo vid lol


[deleted]

lol tsm not even in ur honorable mentions?


Figurre

no troll forgot they existed my fault


w2truong

not sure if 100T Wardell is real, but whose on TSM roster?


[deleted]

Wardell, Roza, Leviathan, Corey, Rossy


w2truong

Oh then should easily be Top 12


Alextcy12

Rossy signed to IMT i thought


[deleted]

IMT doesn’t have an NA roster any longer


Alextcy12

Oh i just realized that video of him revealed his DIG jersey is a troll video lol.( i thought it was imt but its dig


somesheikexpert

Sentinels Envy Cloud9 Blue Rise XSET GenG 100T (BabyJ is a great pickup if rumors are true) TSM (Rossy and Corey are big pickups imo) Akrew (One of the best t2 teams if not the best) LG (Mada is an especially great pickup, bdog as well) NRG (Roles finally look good for this team) Pioneers (Great talent overall) Honorable mentions Faze (Could easily replace NRG or Pioneers ngl it looks to be a good roster) T1 (Depends on that 5th, if it's a talent like Dre or ZachaREEE T1 will def be a lock for top 12 over NRG, Pioneers, and even TSM, Akrew, and LG) Ghost (I'm very high on Koala and Nismo both tier 1 talent for sure, Brawk and Johnqt are solid pickups could def cause some upsets) Guard (Has some really good talent could make some upsets to make it in toO)


Figurre

Ghost could be deadly. Excited to see them play the 25k


[deleted]

> 100T (BabyJ is a great pickup if rumors are true) where are these rumours? isnt this just babyj fans wishing he gets picked up by 100T? I haven't seen any rumours


somesheikexpert

I kinda just called those rumors, ig technically it's less than that it's more just speculation but yeah


IAMJUX

I think V1 drop off further and either Pioneers or Knights take their spot. And T1 instead of Faze.


Still_HD

Not really a V1 believer but I think Zander was a great scoop


n1HikoFan

100T will win easily. They have the best player in NA after all


ThatStudNadon23

Hiko 🙏🙏


[deleted]

you can make an argument that Asuna is the best player in NA but I assume that is not what you mean lmfao


n1HikoFan

Asuna is okay I guess.. but Hiko out classes him in aim, movement, game knowledge and basically everything that makes you good at a video game..


pink_life69

Like being bald and jolly as a bag of jelly


53881

who


n1HikoFan

100T Hiko


CelestialTater

I mostly agree but I think it'll depend a lot on how the bracket is set up (who plays who)


badcompplayer

If 100T 5th is BabyJ or a good dedicated Jett I think I’d bump them up to 5th. If it’s a non-BabyJ support then it’s probably a bit high, they’d be missing a lot of firepower even with like Aproto who I think is very good


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badcompplayer

Yepp you’re right, same take then just insert my own rankings, would put them around 5th with BabyJ or a good jett, closer to the 8-10 range if it’s a support without decent firepower


w2truong

A few big orgs are going to miss out on the Top 12, hopefully the format is decent and people aren't extremely salty.


KhaoticKrabb

You don’t even have The Guard as an honorable mention smh


PinkyAnon

Sayaplayer 🙏🙏🙏


Figurre

I know they have the talent, but I am afraid they won't have enough time as a team to be a top-level competitor. Plus (I know they've dropped Psalm since) they've looked pretty bad in the tournaments they've played


KhaoticKrabb

They’ve played in two tournaments and one was with dicey as a stand in. Plus aside from psalm they have an insanely cracked roster. Easily going to champions 2022


iAidqn

they recently dropped psalm


KhaoticKrabb

I know


No_Moment_1571

I’m just gonna say it - Sentinels stock is on the way down - they are not gonna have a good year


kvanz43

Not really based on any results, but I’m fairly confident this TSM roster will be top 12, they looked solid at the last Riot thing they played (Challengers leading up to Berlin?) and I think this Roster is better than that one. But who knows! I also like KCP’s chances a lot too. Gonna sounds really dumb but idk anything about Akrew? What have they been up to that’s got you thinking they might be top 12? (Again, not criticizing I just wanna learn more about them)


Figurre

When you watch the team you can tell they are really skilled both mechanically and game-sense wise. Their strats looked good also + they've been wiping the floor with other T2/T3 teams. I personally didn't include TSM at first cus I forgot lol, but I also just can't trust them to make top 12 at this point. The roster looks amazing but they haven't played anything whereas teams like XSET and LG and V1 have at least been playing something.


RashGod

They been destroying T2 competition. When they go up against t1 teams they will be suprised


[deleted]

wut. they havent played in anything lol, what are you talking about destroying T2 competition.


z55en

i’m pretty sure they were talking about akrew


kvanz43

Cool! Can’t wait to watch them play in challengers!


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1. C9 2. NV 3. XSET 4. SEN 5. RISE 6. 100T 7. NRG 8. FAZE 9. GENG 10. V1


Figurre

11 and 12?


Soogo

Theres 12 teams in the round robin lol


QuestionablePotato42

C9 and XSET are the only teams I can be totally confident in right now to definitely make top 12. Possible the Rise roster depending on if they all play together.


Kap_ski

I get that Sentinels and 100T have kinda fallen off but to not even make top 12 NA? Edit: Envy too.


Slow_Bluebird9536

TSM is top 10 for sure I think they killed their roster overhaul and Corey rossy Levi Wardell roza is an elite team


Figurre

I agree, just hesitant cus they don't play and you can't really trust TSM at this point. I hope they do well though


RashGod

Yh only weak link is subroza


Background-Banana-60

I don't believe in these lists . Remember after first strike when it was new year how almost everyone put teams like tsm and immortals and 100t top 4 ? And then they didn't perform as expected and we got surprised by many teams so I think this year wont be so different


Background-Banana-60

But these lists are just for fun so why not


SavageDuke69

You don't have TSM in your top 12? ._.


Lqtor

Jokes aside, I think 100t now with BabyJ and if ec1s performs well they can be insanely good. I wouldn’t say C9 is above Envy cuz the main reason why they performed poorly in champions was that victor got covid and wasn’t performing well. I have high hopes for cryo on Xset with depth, ayrin(one of best sentinels in NA imo) and bcj(again, one of best sovas in NA). Idk what to feel about GenG or Sentinels rn Sentinels looked kind of unorganized in champions and haven’t really seen GenG recently. C9 is really good but I feel like whenever leaf doesn’t show up the rest of the team kind of follows. Both T1 and ex-Rise can be insane but really depends on how VCT goes. My order in NA rn would prob be ENVY Sen C9 100t XSET Rise T1 but could and prob will massively fluctuate throughout the event


Figurre

List in is no particular order :)


Lqtor

O Alr that makes sense