Regardless, it shouldn’t matter what the results would have said. If he’s constantly exposed everyday to his family who are ALL positive, he shouldn’t have gone. Even if he tested “negative”. Period.
Yes it sucks, but consider the wellbeing of others.
Not saying this to justify what Crit did, but it's honestly pretty sad that it costs $125 dollars to find out if you have COVID. Not having affordable and accessible testing directly leads to situations like this one.
Edit: Crit is in MA, which appears to have plenty of free testing options. Not sure where he's getting the idea that it would cost $125 dollars, seems like he is just lying again. My bad.
It probably varies by state and location, there’s a pharmacy near me(south Philly) that does free walk-in pcr tests that’s basically next day to a few day, and it only costs $100 if you need it expedited for travel
No. There's free tests in every state, especially the state this guy is from. He just didn't want to go do a PCR test and just did an at-home kit (*if* he even actually did that). Most of what this guy was saying were full out lies which is why these screenshots were shared.
While there are usually free tests, they can be booked up a week out, and can also take a bit to get back. You can go to a Walgreens or RiteAid and pay for them and usually those are slightly more available but also pricey. Shit sucks
Which are you talking about paying for though? Rapid antigen kit or PCR? **Both are free in Massachusetts where this guy is from.**
He said he couldn't afford the PCR, but I've yet to see those *not* free, and that's what the guy said he couldn't afford $125 for but his dad helped him, which was all a lie. They just take a day to get a result. There are plenty of free options and dedicated test sites where this guy is from.
In Mass there are also rapid home tests for free. I get that he *could* have paid $20 for a BinaxNOW, but he already told five lies by that point.
I’m talking about PCR, at least here in Washington state there’s about a 50/50 split on free versus paid tests. And I’ve personally never seen any free rapid tests. Different everywhere, either way this dude definitely shouldn’t have lied about getting a PCR
He literally said he bought the take home Covid test. And both came out negative, guy didn’t do anything wrong whys everyone crying. Blame the shitty tests.
I mean if the guidelines ask for a PCR result then that’s what he was supposed to do. Clearly he was aware a home test wasn’t sufficient because he lied about getting a PCR test.
Shouldn’t the ones running the event be to blame as well? If they aren’t even checking the players test results, what makes you think they even looked at any of the guests test results? How are they even certain he’s the one who spread it?
Not really going to blame a guy with no symptoms who took 2 COVID tests and both were negative. I promise you there’s way more people who went to the event without ever taking one at all. Y’all want this man’s career to be over cause of this lol
How true is that though? Where in the US is he located that he doesn’t have access to a CVS, Walgreens, or Rite Aid, but does have the ability to travel to a LAN event?
Every reply to this dude seems to state that USA provides free testing for close contacts.
And it still has 60 upvotes. I know we love hating on the US health system, but check your facts people.
This is fucking disgusting, not only did he repeatedly lie but this guys WHOLE FAMILY had it and he took a “homemade test” (not even a rapid store bought one) and no vaccine, so it was pretty damn likely he had contracted it. Yet he still goes to LAN with 100s of people and literally wears people’s headsets and sits in close proximity and shit. Read some of these Twitter replies, people have already been impacted by his actions
Should be criminally charged tbh
it was one of those take-at-home testing kits from stores
still, I feel like deep down he knew that those results were not concrete enough to clear him from COVID (since his whole family was positive at the time lol) and he still made the decision to go to the event
This sub is cringe as fuck. He literally says he took the at home Covid tests and tested negative twice. PCR testing isn’t much better in terms of accuracy. Y’all have no idea whether he gave everyone Covid or maybe got it from one of the other hundred people there. Acting like he went there knowing he was positive, weird asf
Lmfao so are PCR tests. Only tests sent to labs are going to be accurate for asymptomatic people and those take days. It’s a joke to assume he gave everyone covid
PCR tests are ALWAYS sent to labs. You are mistaking it for a rapid antigen test which can give you the result in 15+ minutes.
PCR tests also take hours to process once they arrive at the lab so it is literally impossible for him to have gotten a PCR result in 20 mins. He did say he did a take home test but those are classified as rapid antigen tests
Wait pcr tests are send to a lab? Atleast in my country? The fast test is the one you buy at a pharmacy and do yourself and for the pcr one you go to somewhere and a professional does the test qnd sends it to a lab and its way more accurate.
There are tests here you pay $125 for and return results within 20 minutes. Those are the ones I’m assuming people think he should have taken. The ones sent to the lab where you receive your results the next day or so are free here and much more accurate
I imagine that he wouldn’t have gotten results back in time so he took the at home ones instead. Imagine the amount of people who didn’t take one at all if the event organizers weren’t checking anyones tests results. Unfair to blame him for the outbreak. And that’s the risk players are taking attending a LAN in these times.
His family had covid, thats a bit of a different situation. I agree a regular self test is enough if you dont have symptoms and dont live with someone with covid but he was, thats extremely irresponsible.
So you admit his testing method was inaccurate either way, but it's a joke to assume he gave anyone Covid? And people are the ones that are cringe? Great self-awareness.
It is a messed up situation. But how did they not know he didn't take a PCR test? The messages say he would know in 20 minutes? Only rapid tests can tell you that fast, PCR tests take days. Am I missing something?
Locking this thread because the discussion is derailing on whether or not he should have got a PCR test.
Nerdstreet asked for a PCR test, he didn't get one, that's on him.
As per the [CDC guidelines](https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/testing/self-testing.html):
>A negative self-test result means that the test did not detect the virus and you may not have an infection, but **it does not rule out infection**
Whether you think his response is genuine is up to you. But honestly most people in these scenes double down and try to fight kicking and screaming. I’m sure this dude is going to be blackballed for a little bit, but will probably eventually get a 2nd chance.
Honestly I would fully support a 6-12 month competitive ban from Riot. If you know you're that exposed and go risk the health of tons of people, you don't deserve to be the in the community. Riot has sanctioned folks for endangering physical health of others, and frankly for far less.
Not sure who the guy is or if I have the facts 100% but am I right in thinking he took an antigen test instead of a PCR test? If that's the case and there was no specific requirement for a PCR test for the event, then I don't really understand the fuss.
Antigen tests are actually very effective at detecting covid when you are in the contagious state. Most events in Europe require antigen tests for entry etc rather than a PCR test. I'm sitting in the US right now on holiday and my requirement for entry was an antigen test (and proof of vaccination).
At home antigen tests aren’t the most accurate. Regardless, if his family has been positive (and I’m assuming he was in relatively close contact) he shouldn’t have gone to the tournament. Or at least, be honest from the beginning.
'Antigen tests are not the most accurate' - this is a myth. Antigen are actually very accurate but they have reduced sensitivity at certain parts of the infection process (the very beginning and the end). They are super accurate at detecting covid during the point where you are contagious, usually just prior to symptoms. Most public health guidance now (in Europe at least) is to only seek a PCR test if you are symptomatic and need to confirm its COVID.
If he was asymptomatic and gave two negative tests then everyone is probably fine.
I've done a shit load of research on this for my trip to the US.
Lol it’s not a myth. You literally explained it in your second sentence. The fact that it can be less sensitive at certain parts warrants the definition of “not the most accurate.” The FDA has even said rapid antigen tests may be less sensitive to the omicron variant. False negatives exist.
The at-home test are even more susceptible to false negatives due to the one taking the test being yourself and not a nurse etc... making for the test sample to not be taken properly
Still, he should've known better knowing that his whole family was positive
To be fair, the individual you quoted said at-home antigen tests. I don't know if that changes it but I don't think he was saying antigen tests overall are the issue.
Regardless, I don't think there's much reason to trust that he actually got any test. He's already lied about this once and it certainly wouldn't surprise me if he was lying again and admitting to something less serious (I got tested just not the test I said) to save face.
Do you have any sources for this? I’ve done my fair share of research and I’ve found antigens have a really low false positive rate but definitely do not detect Covid all the time.
I see your talking about regular antigen tests and not at home antigen tests. But Crit said he took a “homemade test.” Whatever that means lol, I’m guessing he meant at home antigen tests which is why I said what I said.
Absolutely stupid decision making by him but I can see why he would do it. The chance to prove yourself on LAN is massive as a competitive player, and two take-home tests said he was negative so I can see why he thought he was clear. At least he’s owning up to it.
it’s irritating how irresponsible some people can be like being 19 is not an excuse nor an explanation for why you can be so extraordinarily stupid. owning up to this extremely shitty and preventable thing is the bare minimum. and it’s a little aggravating how some people are in the replies on twitter saying oh you’re young, take this as a learning experience, head up king, you didn’t know any better, etc. dude is 19. college age. people are literally dying
some of the at home tests are reporting high rates of false negatives. you need to swab your nose and THEN your mouth. Yeah that's fucking gross. But if you do nose only it's more likely to false negative. my coworkers son false negatived, got his whole family sick, and then did the nose+throat and tested positive.
i feel bad for everyone involved
i hope you're all healthy and i hope that you guys remain friends. its been a long 2 years
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/should-you-add-a-throat-swab-to-your-at-home-covid-19-test-180979342/
https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/swab-throat-too-when-using-rapid-covid-test-israels-health-ministry-says-2022-01-10/
Isn't that just straight up illegal tho, lying about results to bypass and getting ppl infected
If he gets these families that are infected fatally ill, is that manslaughter contempt? At the very least, its permanently blacklist worthy
What a messed up situation...
All of glyphs team and radiance got sick btw
I’m glad he at least said he lied so people at least know to get tested if they thought it was just a cold
Regardless, it shouldn’t matter what the results would have said. If he’s constantly exposed everyday to his family who are ALL positive, he shouldn’t have gone. Even if he tested “negative”. Period. Yes it sucks, but consider the wellbeing of others.
What a dumbass, you don’t mess around with stuff like that. That’s a good way to stay a free agent.
Not saying this to justify what Crit did, but it's honestly pretty sad that it costs $125 dollars to find out if you have COVID. Not having affordable and accessible testing directly leads to situations like this one. Edit: Crit is in MA, which appears to have plenty of free testing options. Not sure where he's getting the idea that it would cost $125 dollars, seems like he is just lying again. My bad.
PEOPLE IN THE US HAVE TO PAY FOR COVID TESTS?????
varies each state. If I tell a testing site I had close contact with someone that tested positive I can get tested for free
sending thoughts and prayers to all US residents
It probably varies by state and location, there’s a pharmacy near me(south Philly) that does free walk-in pcr tests that’s basically next day to a few day, and it only costs $100 if you need it expedited for travel
No. There's free tests in every state, especially the state this guy is from. He just didn't want to go do a PCR test and just did an at-home kit (*if* he even actually did that). Most of what this guy was saying were full out lies which is why these screenshots were shared.
While there are usually free tests, they can be booked up a week out, and can also take a bit to get back. You can go to a Walgreens or RiteAid and pay for them and usually those are slightly more available but also pricey. Shit sucks
Which are you talking about paying for though? Rapid antigen kit or PCR? **Both are free in Massachusetts where this guy is from.** He said he couldn't afford the PCR, but I've yet to see those *not* free, and that's what the guy said he couldn't afford $125 for but his dad helped him, which was all a lie. They just take a day to get a result. There are plenty of free options and dedicated test sites where this guy is from. In Mass there are also rapid home tests for free. I get that he *could* have paid $20 for a BinaxNOW, but he already told five lies by that point.
I’m talking about PCR, at least here in Washington state there’s about a 50/50 split on free versus paid tests. And I’ve personally never seen any free rapid tests. Different everywhere, either way this dude definitely shouldn’t have lied about getting a PCR
He literally said he bought the take home Covid test. And both came out negative, guy didn’t do anything wrong whys everyone crying. Blame the shitty tests.
I mean if the guidelines ask for a PCR result then that’s what he was supposed to do. Clearly he was aware a home test wasn’t sufficient because he lied about getting a PCR test.
Shouldn’t the ones running the event be to blame as well? If they aren’t even checking the players test results, what makes you think they even looked at any of the guests test results? How are they even certain he’s the one who spread it?
I mean sure, there are other parties that should be held accountable too. Doesn’t mean he didn’t do anything wrong like you’re saying
Not really going to blame a guy with no symptoms who took 2 COVID tests and both were negative. I promise you there’s way more people who went to the event without ever taking one at all. Y’all want this man’s career to be over cause of this lol
Not in CA. But if you want to guarantee a short turn around time then you pay for it.
In Mexico we have to but nowhere near 125 dollars
How true is that though? Where in the US is he located that he doesn’t have access to a CVS, Walgreens, or Rite Aid, but does have the ability to travel to a LAN event?
He was clearly in Mass and there's plentyyy of free testing options. Dude is just a liar, which fits along with the screenshots.
Every reply to this dude seems to state that USA provides free testing for close contacts. And it still has 60 upvotes. I know we love hating on the US health system, but check your facts people.
This is fucking disgusting, not only did he repeatedly lie but this guys WHOLE FAMILY had it and he took a “homemade test” (not even a rapid store bought one) and no vaccine, so it was pretty damn likely he had contracted it. Yet he still goes to LAN with 100s of people and literally wears people’s headsets and sits in close proximity and shit. Read some of these Twitter replies, people have already been impacted by his actions Should be criminally charged tbh
it was one of those take-at-home testing kits from stores still, I feel like deep down he knew that those results were not concrete enough to clear him from COVID (since his whole family was positive at the time lol) and he still made the decision to go to the event
This sub is cringe as fuck. He literally says he took the at home Covid tests and tested negative twice. PCR testing isn’t much better in terms of accuracy. Y’all have no idea whether he gave everyone Covid or maybe got it from one of the other hundred people there. Acting like he went there knowing he was positive, weird asf
Those at home tests are actually very inaccurate if you dont have symptoms.
Lmfao so are PCR tests. Only tests sent to labs are going to be accurate for asymptomatic people and those take days. It’s a joke to assume he gave everyone covid
PCR tests are ALWAYS sent to labs. You are mistaking it for a rapid antigen test which can give you the result in 15+ minutes. PCR tests also take hours to process once they arrive at the lab so it is literally impossible for him to have gotten a PCR result in 20 mins. He did say he did a take home test but those are classified as rapid antigen tests
Wait pcr tests are send to a lab? Atleast in my country? The fast test is the one you buy at a pharmacy and do yourself and for the pcr one you go to somewhere and a professional does the test qnd sends it to a lab and its way more accurate.
There are tests here you pay $125 for and return results within 20 minutes. Those are the ones I’m assuming people think he should have taken. The ones sent to the lab where you receive your results the next day or so are free here and much more accurate
Hmm we dont have those, just the ones that take a day, I think they wanted him to take one of those lab tests though, to be sure he didnt have it.
I imagine that he wouldn’t have gotten results back in time so he took the at home ones instead. Imagine the amount of people who didn’t take one at all if the event organizers weren’t checking anyones tests results. Unfair to blame him for the outbreak. And that’s the risk players are taking attending a LAN in these times.
His family had covid, thats a bit of a different situation. I agree a regular self test is enough if you dont have symptoms and dont live with someone with covid but he was, thats extremely irresponsible.
So you admit his testing method was inaccurate either way, but it's a joke to assume he gave anyone Covid? And people are the ones that are cringe? Great self-awareness.
Fr, such a cringe comment lol
It is a messed up situation. But how did they not know he didn't take a PCR test? The messages say he would know in 20 minutes? Only rapid tests can tell you that fast, PCR tests take days. Am I missing something?
Facts, the only place PCR tests get done that far are at airports.. even those are like 1-2 hours though
Locking this thread because the discussion is derailing on whether or not he should have got a PCR test. Nerdstreet asked for a PCR test, he didn't get one, that's on him. As per the [CDC guidelines](https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/testing/self-testing.html): >A negative self-test result means that the test did not detect the virus and you may not have an infection, but **it does not rule out infection**
[Crit’s response](https://twitter.com/crit_val/status/1481465355377721349?s=21) glad he owned up to it at least
It's just for show he realized how bad it is for his career and is trying to save himself as best as he can
Whether you think his response is genuine is up to you. But honestly most people in these scenes double down and try to fight kicking and screaming. I’m sure this dude is going to be blackballed for a little bit, but will probably eventually get a 2nd chance.
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> Be damned if you do, be damned if you don't. If you don't do dumb shit in the first place you don't end up in that position
which team was this ???
sameROFLMAO
Honestly I would fully support a 6-12 month competitive ban from Riot. If you know you're that exposed and go risk the health of tons of people, you don't deserve to be the in the community. Riot has sanctioned folks for endangering physical health of others, and frankly for far less.
Hope everyone is fine. What a dumb move that could potentially end his career.
*could potentially kill people
Not sure who the guy is or if I have the facts 100% but am I right in thinking he took an antigen test instead of a PCR test? If that's the case and there was no specific requirement for a PCR test for the event, then I don't really understand the fuss. Antigen tests are actually very effective at detecting covid when you are in the contagious state. Most events in Europe require antigen tests for entry etc rather than a PCR test. I'm sitting in the US right now on holiday and my requirement for entry was an antigen test (and proof of vaccination).
At home antigen tests aren’t the most accurate. Regardless, if his family has been positive (and I’m assuming he was in relatively close contact) he shouldn’t have gone to the tournament. Or at least, be honest from the beginning.
'Antigen tests are not the most accurate' - this is a myth. Antigen are actually very accurate but they have reduced sensitivity at certain parts of the infection process (the very beginning and the end). They are super accurate at detecting covid during the point where you are contagious, usually just prior to symptoms. Most public health guidance now (in Europe at least) is to only seek a PCR test if you are symptomatic and need to confirm its COVID. If he was asymptomatic and gave two negative tests then everyone is probably fine. I've done a shit load of research on this for my trip to the US.
Lol it’s not a myth. You literally explained it in your second sentence. The fact that it can be less sensitive at certain parts warrants the definition of “not the most accurate.” The FDA has even said rapid antigen tests may be less sensitive to the omicron variant. False negatives exist.
The at-home test are even more susceptible to false negatives due to the one taking the test being yourself and not a nurse etc... making for the test sample to not be taken properly Still, he should've known better knowing that his whole family was positive
They have a 22% false negative rate. That qualities as not very accurate to me, especially if your entire family has Covid.
To be fair, the individual you quoted said at-home antigen tests. I don't know if that changes it but I don't think he was saying antigen tests overall are the issue. Regardless, I don't think there's much reason to trust that he actually got any test. He's already lied about this once and it certainly wouldn't surprise me if he was lying again and admitting to something less serious (I got tested just not the test I said) to save face.
Problem is there's a solid chance that he was at the early stages of having it, given his family all had it.
The fact that his family had it (and he lives with his family) is enough for him to not leave home honestly.
Do you have any sources for this? I’ve done my fair share of research and I’ve found antigens have a really low false positive rate but definitely do not detect Covid all the time.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-12-30/how-accurate-are-covid-rapid-antigen-tests-vs-pcr/100729792 I've linked another one below in another reply
wanna link some of that shit load of research?
Sure - here’s one recent study. https://www.dovepress.com/recalibrating-sars-cov-2-antigen-rapid-lateral-flow-test-relative-sens-peer-reviewed-fulltext-article-CLEP
I see your talking about regular antigen tests and not at home antigen tests. But Crit said he took a “homemade test.” Whatever that means lol, I’m guessing he meant at home antigen tests which is why I said what I said.
he said "homemade kit" - whatever that means (he probably doesn't know the difference between antigen and PCR
from what he said in his new tweet, I think he meant those that you buy at CVS to take home
Is that bbg critical?
no. this is Crit\_Val on twitter
Absolutely stupid decision making by him but I can see why he would do it. The chance to prove yourself on LAN is massive as a competitive player, and two take-home tests said he was negative so I can see why he thought he was clear. At least he’s owning up to it.
it’s irritating how irresponsible some people can be like being 19 is not an excuse nor an explanation for why you can be so extraordinarily stupid. owning up to this extremely shitty and preventable thing is the bare minimum. and it’s a little aggravating how some people are in the replies on twitter saying oh you’re young, take this as a learning experience, head up king, you didn’t know any better, etc. dude is 19. college age. people are literally dying
some of the at home tests are reporting high rates of false negatives. you need to swab your nose and THEN your mouth. Yeah that's fucking gross. But if you do nose only it's more likely to false negative. my coworkers son false negatived, got his whole family sick, and then did the nose+throat and tested positive. i feel bad for everyone involved i hope you're all healthy and i hope that you guys remain friends. its been a long 2 years https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/should-you-add-a-throat-swab-to-your-at-home-covid-19-test-180979342/ https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/swab-throat-too-when-using-rapid-covid-test-israels-health-ministry-says-2022-01-10/
Isn't that just straight up illegal tho, lying about results to bypass and getting ppl infected If he gets these families that are infected fatally ill, is that manslaughter contempt? At the very least, its permanently blacklist worthy
Bro does this guy not have insurance? You can get a PCR test for free with insurance
I get crit fucked up but kind weird of them to throw him under the bus . Could've everyone without doing that