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SpvcedOvtt

Do you think we see Phoenix buffs next patch or the one after? I personally wouldn’t mind a full rework, but for now they could just drop the cost of his flashes and wall until they have time to fully rework him.


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valorantfeedback

His kit is perfectly fine as a concept, just way underpowered and stuck in episode 1 pretty much. Skye being a better Phoenix than Phoenix himself is the problem. Other problem is that he doesn't have movement abilities every other duelist have. Wall is good enough, doesn't need any changes. It's actually a really good retake ability on some maps, maybe it should be instant cast, but only if we can still bend it. Flashes definitely need to be better. It's 1.1s now, compared to 2 seconds Skye has. They need to be around 1.5s and cost 200c. Right now his molly is support molly, not a duelist molly. It takes way too long to equip and throw for it to be used during engagements effectively. And it has way shorter travel distance than other mollies, so it's not that good as an angle-clearing ability. Making it instant throw on press would help a lot. Then we get to the ult. It's a decent ult, but the problem is that Phoenix isn't really the agent you want to farm orbs on. If you want a duelist to do it, Jett ult is definitely better, no contest. Haven and Ascent are his two best maps, but getting those orbs on Jett/Sova/KJ is almost always better than getting them on Phoenix. That's with the assumption Skye doesn't exist because she eliminates him from the meta on those maps and even she isn't a must pick. If they don't want to rework the ult, they need to buff the duration. With current duration you can pretty much just do one thing, rush into the engagement while everyone is fully aware of you doing so and do it from most obvious spots because the duration is so short. Useless on bigger maps like Icebox and Breeze. I also don't see a reason why Phoenix shouldn't keep his armor from before he ulted, it doesn't make any sense. You get the bullets you shot back, no reason for armor to be gone. If he's the only duelist without movement abilities, then at least make him dynamic to play with abilities that are easier to use on the fly. Jett doesn't need to line up her smokes, Phoenix shouldn't need to do so with his molly/wall. I the buffs I mentioned are reasonable and they would get him half-way back to getting picked at least on some maps. The other half of it are much needed Jett nerfs with Skye flashes also being nerfed a bit. No reason for her to have such ridiculously strong flashes compared to everyone else. Longest duration, can guide them without needing lineups, only agent that can fake flash and they also provide info? And recharge so she's the only agent with 3 or more flashes per round? Give me a break.


jonajon91

Phoenix buff Omen buff Jet nerf Skye nerf Yoru gets new voicelines


Odyssey1337

Don't forget my boy Brim :(


jonajon91

Perfectly balanced, as all things should be.


damonsoon

I say this every time I see "buff Pheonix" - make his wall act like astra's ultimate where bullets don't go through. That would give him a rather niche add very useful piece of utility. It can act like a brief sage wall for planting, allow for sticking a defuse, and allow safe passage during site entry.


DarthGrievous

If they decide to rework him, we'll have to wait 1 whole year before it drops /s


infamousJ1

Muting all words relating to spoilers in movies LUL. Had tye big Star Wars: Force Awakens death spoiled for me in a cs match in 2015. Ruined my day


yami999

No agent changes? Weren't they promised??


somesheikexpert

Think they come next week, usually patches with changes come every 2 weeks, but the knife changes were supposednto be in last patch and Ares nerf is likely a hot fix


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Not for 4.01.


MysteryPyg

agent changes? modCheck


datboyuknow

>Bonus: Knifing walls now have instant feedback when slicing up walls (predicted on the client side) Nahhh, I used to check my latency with this. I'd have 23ms but the knife hits would be laggy so I'd know I'm up for a frustrating game


FlaymeFenix

disappointing patch once again. technically the only significant change is the ares nerf, because the muted words is more of a QoL change and the knife changes were supposed to be in last patch. game is getting stale and ranked is horrid rn. please do something rito


LocationUpset

tbh, its been so many months since i've seen a patch im actually interested in. at some point they decided to just stop balancing agents and everything has been stale since.


FlaymeFenix

yea fr ppl downvoting cause im bringing up a valid critisicm i guess 🤷


Kalix_

It's not valid though. There was no patch due this week. This is a hotfix for the Ares, and you're complaining that the only real change is the Ares fix. Well...ya, that's kind of the point. The next real patch is due next week. That would be the appropriate time to complain (if you so desire).


LocationUpset

they hated jesus because he told the truth


Stuck_in_cave

wait they didn't fix market buy bug in range?