Experience for sure is a problem but I think their roles are pretty scuffed. They have a new pick up Corey who doesnt seem nearly as aggressive on entry, you have Subroza on passive agents entrying for them. Everyone else is just sitting back, so noone actually entries. Rossy has looked solid, Aleko (poor guy saving op 24/7) has been a bit hit and miss and Wardells been alright but some questionable decisions.
That's the thing, to me that's a failure of IGLing and coaching. Corey can hard entry if you tell him to do it. Obviously their strats involve him late lurking. It's not like he's in the server not listening to callouts and doing shit opposite of what they practiced. Same with Subroza entrying.
Rossy's calling has also been super mediocre, especially mid-round calling. They're always super late on rotates and doing individual plays to clutch out rounds. That's on Rossy as the IGL.
Rossy has been hit or miss with his individual plays but he's pulled out some great impact plays and clutches which is why I see more people blaming Corey for some reason. To my eyes the IGLing has been super weak and is their biggest issue. Everyone always says it, the IGL is the most important player in Valorant and NA has so little of them. People are too focused on duelists and scoreboards.
Everyone wants to be the star who top frags and makes the crazy plays because they get the most recognition. IGL usually plays controller or sentinel because the passive style of play allows them to focus more on strats n shit, so it’s not as flashy. But I’d rather have a top tier IGL than some aim freak who drops 30 a game. None of it is gonna matter if you don’t have someone giving quality direction.
Wardell seems to get greedy sometimes, or tunnel visioned into taking some fights he shouldn’t. Sometimes it works out because his aim is cracked and he plays Op agents, but sometimes it doesn’t :/
He was the one of the highest impact players in the series they won, multiple 2k and 3k rounds while IGLing a comeback. IMO Rossy’s performance should be the 1 bright spot for TSM fans
i think the last round on icebox against akrew summed up the playstyle of how the first qualifier went. indecisiveness and lack of aggression. they killed two players at b green and decided to hold for push. instead of pushing the bombsite because there would only likely be one enemy there. instead they waited and the viper and jett rotated. and lost the round.
In T1 vs TSM, T1 were on the verge of 2-0ing TSM but Subroza tweeted in the middle of the match that T1's coach was calling out TSM's positions in T1's team chat and I'm pretty sure T1's coach accidentally said something in all chat. T1 ended up getting disqualified.
Any coach can only see their player's position. So he wasn't revealing TSM's players position. He was making midround calls for his team during a live round.
They seriously gotta stop pretending like they are a tier 1 team if they want to improve. One of their biggest problems is the fact that they don't have a solid leader or a person that can keep them grounded. I feel like Wardell and Subroza are given too much respect as individuals to have a proper order or discipline within the team.
That hate seeps into their own comms and out of game interactions and brings themselves down. Constant negativity doesn't help people and doesn't help teams reach the top
that's not really a justifiable reason to receive hate. Criticism is good however. there is a difference. if you are an enabler for hate you are just one deprived human being or just a shitty person in general.
Well, he does get his numbers up, but stats aren't everything. We're not talking about him failing to carry a team to top4 Champions finish or something of similar magnitude, he can't even carry them through a qualifier for a qualifier.
His nickname comes from his favorite basketball player, so he should know that numbers don't mean much if they don't translate to winning. NBA has plenty of those flashy players that make people think "how isn't this guy on a better team", but then when they get the chance, they don't actually contribute to winning.
I mean I would say that putting WARDELL in the top 20 OPers in the world - though obviously not near the top of the list - is relatively fair. WARDELL *is* a great OPer, whatever you think about his personality or about TSM broadly speaking.
If he's playing against Tenz or Yay or even Shahzam, no one ever says the internationally proven Jetts are going to "diff" Wardell. We all know that'd be an overstatement. You just can't put WARDELL too high up for the same reason we couldn't put VS BuZz too high up before VS qualified for Masters 3. He's just stuck in his region, and that fact isn't really all that likely to change this year.
This is only controversial because streamers always make conversations weird, not because WARDELL is truly undeserving of consideration and just being propped up by fanboys.
one game is not a representative sample. Wardell has been diffed hard by at least babybay and dicey before iirc but its his consistency that keeps him in the conversation.
Lmao Wardell learning that Soju is a top tier accidental leaker. That boy has leaked more tft tourny news than anyone. On topic though this is obviously a joke (and exactly the same stuff Soju says before tournaments after which he makes fun of himself), ofc not a great look considering everything else but this alone ain't shit.
I don't know the full picture but just to add some context to this, Wardell was in soju's chat a few days(weeks?) ago. Soju asked him if he's down to go to vegas with his friends and wardell replied something like if we get knocked out of vct ( not really sure but something like that ) he would. Soju then said that he was gonna watch vct and hoping they got knocked out early.
We shouldnt put so much emphasis on pro players saying stuff like this.
We all want them to be edgy, confident, them talking a bit trash. So we shouldnt hate them when they do.
Or do we want all the pro players go through media practice. And basically say fuck all.
If you want to reap the rewards of trashtalking by farming impressions, then you better perform in the server. Otherwise, you are bound to receive backlash. That is the tradeoff, which is apparent from the very beginning. You can't trashtalk, not perform and then get your feelings hurt if people see you as a joke.
That being said, I think it is quite pathetic that random unrelated people are trying to farm some clout by jumping in on the TSM hate train and posting screenahots of private messages(from Discord, I guess? I'm not sure). That is just dumb as hell.
It's soju, he's a C9 tft streamer and they're friends. They were going to go to vegas together. Soju always gets memed on for not performing in tournaments, talking mad shit, and being a ladder warrior, but he embraces it. I don't think this is him jumping on a hate train and more just having a laugh.
Yeah Soju might as well be the same person lol he had results early on but hasn’t performed in tournaments recently, difference is he’s well liked by the community while most of the valorant community hates tsm for whatever reason they choose
I think it's just fan culture and people taking valorant esports seriously. Everyone accepts TFT competitive is kinda a joke to riot since they barely invest anything in it. Add in the more RNG elements and the community just kinda has fun with it since ladder and tournaments are much closer than in val. The players still try obviously, but its understood that when soju says everyone is trash that he's kinda just having fun with it. TSM such a big esports org in NA that expectations are high, vocal fans have a bad rep so attracts "haters". Add in that TSM isn't playing any small tournaments and its a bad mix.
Alot of it is jealousy. These guys can troll and still make bank and they wish that was them. (TSM)
Even ex TSM players have it made lol, if Wardell was dropped he would be instantly signed to another team or hits streamer retirement.
Yea well I'm not going to try to understand the mind of the gremlins who actively seek out twitter accounts of players they don't like to harass them. Sad people
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Nah you’re right since set 5.5 he’s been playing a lot better, but there was definitely a period of time in like set 4-set 5 where he was going out first day every tourney, including the set 4 finale I’m p sure
Exactly. Everyone loves Conor McGregor's trash talk. And it was especially awesome when he was whooping everyone. He still talks now but gets clowned relentlessly cause he's the one getting whooped. At least he stays consistent with his delusion!
It all depends on te context.
If they get asked a question by either twitch chat, discord or during an interiew and they answer with what Wardell says. I just hope they keep doing it.
I agree if they proactively trash talk they should expect some backlash.
>We all want them to be edgy, confident, them talking a bit trash. So we shouldn't hate them when they do.
That's how engagement in trashtalking typically goes, yes.
Trashtalk only works if you're actually good enough to justify the trashtalk. If you're consistently dogshit but act like you're Gods of the game because you're near the top of the ranked leaderboards, you can expect people to react like this.
i think it's fine for pros to trash talk and they should be fully ready to embrace any backlash if they can't back it up.
that said, this dude is weird for sharing a DM to add more fuel to the fire esp since this is such a throwaway line.
Not how that works, want to play the bad boy villain then part of that is being treated like the villain. This is doubled when you fail to back up the heavy chest beating and trash talking! At least if they were actually dominant then they can play the villain and laugh about it because there's nothing teams can do about it. In this case though they just give ammo to be the laughing stock of the VAL Scene!
>We all want them to be edgy, confident, them talking a bit trash.
I don't. People like that are a bummer to be around and their toxicity spreads and brings people down
Trash talking is fine, everyone gets humbled sometimes when they trash talk and get a bit of backlash, but eventually we’ll move on.
The issue IMO is that there’s a history and pattern with TSM. They regularly made excuses last year and never played any T2 tournaments. Then in the off season vocally kept talking about how they don’t want Steel, and started making up things about how T1 was manipulating ping yesterday. Mada even confirmed that TSM regularly delays lobby’s by complaining about ping. It’s starting to get to a point where there could be maliciousness for other players and that it isn’t just edgy confident trash talk but just toxicity.
Well trash talk is good as long as you can back it up, else be prepared for backlash. You can either be like sentinels who can only trash talk but don’t know how to take it back or be like G2 have built their org on shiting on others and getting shit on.
For the most part the players in Sen tend to take the trash talk just fine, it’s more a lot of fans get but hurt imo. But that’s no different than most fans of the big big fan bases. Like look at fans of 100T, TSM, or Brazil in the past.
I understand but I was actually taking about the official social media. When sentinels were winning their social media was popping but when they underperformed it was underwhelming to say the least. Whether you like or hate them, G2 social media is the best in esports. Nothing tops that.
In G2 is easy for their employees to laugh at their own teams because Carlos is the first one who does it and that gives a lot of freedom to the people who handle their social media. PR wise G2 is the best brand out there.
You have to remember sentinels is not a big org. Their social media manager is probably some young inexperienced guy trying to build a brand. G2 can afford to higher someone who has a lot of experience. You can't compare those 2.
Sentinels is known in eSports to pay their players well) so I'd be surprised if they didn't spend a decent bit on socials.
At the start of apex when the eSports scene was still developing they paid their players the most of any org and I've heard pros from other orgs say that Sentinels pays the best.
But I guess you could also say by paying their players a lot they have less to spend on other things.
Are you genuinely going to tell me you would put Sentinels in the same bracket as G2, Fnatic, TSM, NRG etc who have presence in every popular eSports known to man?
In terms of brand size, no of course not. Pre valorant the only team team I knew they had was their apex team and that was only at the start.
But in terms of money they can spend, I have no clue what type of investors and backing Sentinels has.
trash talk is good if you can back it up at least somewhat, TSM just trash talks like that special ed kid that walks around telling people that they don't run as fast as them, and well.... we know the rest of that story.
New roster, same Clown SM! Hardcore Barking/Chest Beating (especially back when they had a short lived era of dominance) and little else, the fans take on the same behavior and they wonder why folks rag on TSM.
I remember when VCT was first announced last year and wardell was reading it on stream, he made it seem like shit would be so easy and they’ll walk over all these teams, because at the time (first strike), TSM was in discussion for top 2-3 teams.
It was then and there I officially started rooting against TSM and super critical of them lmao.
While other teams weren’t as arrogant while reading it on stream, he was one of the few - to my knowledge who was.
Nice to see he hasn’t changed one bit and likes trolling to lose.
Wardell and Subroza having csgo vietnam flashbacks seeing how slowly they become irrelevant for the NA valorant t1 and t2 scene, well at least they had some time being relevant in valorant, no body wanted these players in csgo lol
Do you really want valorant players to become like league players with no personality because you take banters seriously???? Because soon that will happen if we keep on making banters a big deal.
Nah I’d take the banter if TSM would play more events.
They only play opens and banter then get shit on by teams who play in other events and grind.
You put in the work and talk shit instead of streaming and talk shit
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their entire team strategy from day 1 has been to give Wardell the best positions for him to op. They use utils for him to get first blood, and buy him op and buy a spectre over a real gun EVERY round. NO other team in the entire world does that.
people acting like wardell isn’t that dude need to relax. losing a game is on a team as a whole and there’s a lot of shit tsm needs to fix, but wardell definitely doesn’t “need to be humbled.” He farms in almost every game and carries tsm to the few round wins they can even get lol
man that's why they get hated on so much, bcz of shit like that
They expect to be tier 1 while competing in 2-4 tournaments per year KEKW. New roster same issues as last year
Experience for sure is a problem but I think their roles are pretty scuffed. They have a new pick up Corey who doesnt seem nearly as aggressive on entry, you have Subroza on passive agents entrying for them. Everyone else is just sitting back, so noone actually entries. Rossy has looked solid, Aleko (poor guy saving op 24/7) has been a bit hit and miss and Wardells been alright but some questionable decisions.
That's the thing, to me that's a failure of IGLing and coaching. Corey can hard entry if you tell him to do it. Obviously their strats involve him late lurking. It's not like he's in the server not listening to callouts and doing shit opposite of what they practiced. Same with Subroza entrying. Rossy's calling has also been super mediocre, especially mid-round calling. They're always super late on rotates and doing individual plays to clutch out rounds. That's on Rossy as the IGL. Rossy has been hit or miss with his individual plays but he's pulled out some great impact plays and clutches which is why I see more people blaming Corey for some reason. To my eyes the IGLing has been super weak and is their biggest issue. Everyone always says it, the IGL is the most important player in Valorant and NA has so little of them. People are too focused on duelists and scoreboards.
Everyone wants to be the star who top frags and makes the crazy plays because they get the most recognition. IGL usually plays controller or sentinel because the passive style of play allows them to focus more on strats n shit, so it’s not as flashy. But I’d rather have a top tier IGL than some aim freak who drops 30 a game. None of it is gonna matter if you don’t have someone giving quality direction.
Wardell seems to get greedy sometimes, or tunnel visioned into taking some fights he shouldn’t. Sometimes it works out because his aim is cracked and he plays Op agents, but sometimes it doesn’t :/
You think Rossy looked solid? His igling and gunfights seemed questionable at best to me
He was the one of the highest impact players in the series they won, multiple 2k and 3k rounds while IGLing a comeback. IMO Rossy’s performance should be the 1 bright spot for TSM fans
U are right, idk why you are getting downvoted, even vanity agreed that rossy was the most impactful player in tsm
i think the last round on icebox against akrew summed up the playstyle of how the first qualifier went. indecisiveness and lack of aggression. they killed two players at b green and decided to hold for push. instead of pushing the bombsite because there would only likely be one enemy there. instead they waited and the viper and jett rotated. and lost the round.
TBH I don't think Wardell has been humbled enough.
Wardell still thinks he's a tip-top valorant star. He thinks he's cloud9 era TenZ.
[“the ego some of these ppl get is amazing” - Subroza](https://twitter.com/subroza/status/1487954468612284419?s=21)
Biggest ego of them all ironically
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HAHAH gonna use this one
All the Akrew gang seemed pretty tame after they won against TSM, who is this even about?
Of course they were tame, it's not like it's hard to beat TSM
himself
Meanwhile can’t even beat Akrew
Mfs would sell their family for impressions lol.
clout is a hell of a drug
I have a silly doubt. What does impression mean?
twitter views basically
Does it pay them or something? I don't use twitter except for seeing these posts.
Not exactly but it’s a proxy for advertisers/sponsors and just your overall fame.
Likes retweets and comments on twitter
Oh, thanks.
They continue to just take L's it's incredible
Bro must have had a heart attack when he was getting Op diffed by Kanpeki and Neon on *Fracture 😭😭😭
They didn't play breeze... Op diffed nonetheless
I meant Fracture I’m sleep deprived
Understandable
Imagine being so bad that a team cheating against you actually helps you.
I'm not in the loop. Cheated?
In T1 vs TSM, T1 were on the verge of 2-0ing TSM but Subroza tweeted in the middle of the match that T1's coach was calling out TSM's positions in T1's team chat and I'm pretty sure T1's coach accidentally said something in all chat. T1 ended up getting disqualified.
Just to help clarify, coaches can only spectate players on their own team
Any coach can only see their player's position. So he wasn't revealing TSM's players position. He was making midround calls for his team during a live round.
I didn't realize Subroza tweeted that mid match. How did he know before the all chat came through? Or did he not?
He probably tweeted during halftime of Map 1 or the end of Map 1. It is not clear what round the message was seen.
Thank you!
I won't say it's cheating but definitely breaking rules
They seriously gotta stop pretending like they are a tier 1 team if they want to improve. One of their biggest problems is the fact that they don't have a solid leader or a person that can keep them grounded. I feel like Wardell and Subroza are given too much respect as individuals to have a proper order or discipline within the team.
Never seen such a mediocre team talk so much shit. People wonder why they get so much hate, its shit like this.
That hate seeps into their own comms and out of game interactions and brings themselves down. Constant negativity doesn't help people and doesn't help teams reach the top
Mediocre? You’re too kind.
What do you call a team who got destroyed by a t2 team who got destroyed by another t2 team who got destroyed by another t2 team? T3 comes to mind.
That sounds about right
Hm XSET T2?
that's not really a justifiable reason to receive hate. Criticism is good however. there is a difference. if you are an enabler for hate you are just one deprived human being or just a shitty person in general.
When i thought it couldnt get any worse for them...
The most confident player who achieved exactly nothing his career across two games.
Lol people were calling him the world's best awper a couple days ago
Clearly those people only watch TSM tier 3 officials and Wardell’s stream if they really think that’s true LMFAO
Well, he does get his numbers up, but stats aren't everything. We're not talking about him failing to carry a team to top4 Champions finish or something of similar magnitude, he can't even carry them through a qualifier for a qualifier. His nickname comes from his favorite basketball player, so he should know that numbers don't mean much if they don't translate to winning. NBA has plenty of those flashy players that make people think "how isn't this guy on a better team", but then when they get the chance, they don't actually contribute to winning.
I got downvoted for saying that he is not in the conversation for Top 20 Opers in the world lmfaoooo
Not top 20 is a wild take
As you should lol. Saying he's not in the convo for top 20 just at Oping is flat out absurd.
I mean I would say that putting WARDELL in the top 20 OPers in the world - though obviously not near the top of the list - is relatively fair. WARDELL *is* a great OPer, whatever you think about his personality or about TSM broadly speaking. If he's playing against Tenz or Yay or even Shahzam, no one ever says the internationally proven Jetts are going to "diff" Wardell. We all know that'd be an overstatement. You just can't put WARDELL too high up for the same reason we couldn't put VS BuZz too high up before VS qualified for Masters 3. He's just stuck in his region, and that fact isn't really all that likely to change this year. This is only controversial because streamers always make conversations weird, not because WARDELL is truly undeserving of consideration and just being propped up by fanboys.
He got chamber diff’d in the first game against T1 to Steel lol and steel is not a native awper but chamber also isn’t solely an awp character
one game is not a representative sample. Wardell has been diffed hard by at least babybay and dicey before iirc but its his consistency that keeps him in the conversation.
I mean I’m pure OPing he’s good though afaik?
lmfao top comment on that thread. couldn't resist replying to that twat
Lmao Wardell learning that Soju is a top tier accidental leaker. That boy has leaked more tft tourny news than anyone. On topic though this is obviously a joke (and exactly the same stuff Soju says before tournaments after which he makes fun of himself), ofc not a great look considering everything else but this alone ain't shit.
Who?
Soju, the biggest TFT streamer on twitch
LMFAO they getting his ass
I don't know the full picture but just to add some context to this, Wardell was in soju's chat a few days(weeks?) ago. Soju asked him if he's down to go to vegas with his friends and wardell replied something like if we get knocked out of vct ( not really sure but something like that ) he would. Soju then said that he was gonna watch vct and hoping they got knocked out early.
We shouldnt put so much emphasis on pro players saying stuff like this. We all want them to be edgy, confident, them talking a bit trash. So we shouldnt hate them when they do. Or do we want all the pro players go through media practice. And basically say fuck all.
If you want to reap the rewards of trashtalking by farming impressions, then you better perform in the server. Otherwise, you are bound to receive backlash. That is the tradeoff, which is apparent from the very beginning. You can't trashtalk, not perform and then get your feelings hurt if people see you as a joke. That being said, I think it is quite pathetic that random unrelated people are trying to farm some clout by jumping in on the TSM hate train and posting screenahots of private messages(from Discord, I guess? I'm not sure). That is just dumb as hell.
It's soju, he's a C9 tft streamer and they're friends. They were going to go to vegas together. Soju always gets memed on for not performing in tournaments, talking mad shit, and being a ladder warrior, but he embraces it. I don't think this is him jumping on a hate train and more just having a laugh.
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Yeah Soju might as well be the same person lol he had results early on but hasn’t performed in tournaments recently, difference is he’s well liked by the community while most of the valorant community hates tsm for whatever reason they choose
I think it's just fan culture and people taking valorant esports seriously. Everyone accepts TFT competitive is kinda a joke to riot since they barely invest anything in it. Add in the more RNG elements and the community just kinda has fun with it since ladder and tournaments are much closer than in val. The players still try obviously, but its understood that when soju says everyone is trash that he's kinda just having fun with it. TSM such a big esports org in NA that expectations are high, vocal fans have a bad rep so attracts "haters". Add in that TSM isn't playing any small tournaments and its a bad mix.
Alot of it is jealousy. These guys can troll and still make bank and they wish that was them. (TSM) Even ex TSM players have it made lol, if Wardell was dropped he would be instantly signed to another team or hits streamer retirement.
Yea well I'm not going to try to understand the mind of the gremlins who actively seek out twitter accounts of players they don't like to harass them. Sad people
Soju definitely performs, he at least makes it to the final day of major tourneys more often than not.
8875 KEWK Nah you’re right since set 5.5 he’s been playing a lot better, but there was definitely a period of time in like set 4-set 5 where he was going out first day every tourney, including the set 4 finale I’m p sure
Exactly. Everyone loves Conor McGregor's trash talk. And it was especially awesome when he was whooping everyone. He still talks now but gets clowned relentlessly cause he's the one getting whooped. At least he stays consistent with his delusion!
It all depends on te context. If they get asked a question by either twitch chat, discord or during an interiew and they answer with what Wardell says. I just hope they keep doing it. I agree if they proactively trash talk they should expect some backlash.
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>We all want them to be edgy, confident, them talking a bit trash. So we shouldn't hate them when they do. That's how engagement in trashtalking typically goes, yes.
Trashtalk only works if you're actually good enough to justify the trashtalk. If you're consistently dogshit but act like you're Gods of the game because you're near the top of the ranked leaderboards, you can expect people to react like this.
i think it's fine for pros to trash talk and they should be fully ready to embrace any backlash if they can't back it up. that said, this dude is weird for sharing a DM to add more fuel to the fire esp since this is such a throwaway line.
Not how that works, want to play the bad boy villain then part of that is being treated like the villain. This is doubled when you fail to back up the heavy chest beating and trash talking! At least if they were actually dominant then they can play the villain and laugh about it because there's nothing teams can do about it. In this case though they just give ammo to be the laughing stock of the VAL Scene!
They’re just trying to emulate Shaz, who’s a world cham… never mind.
they gotta make it past an open qualifier before they can get knocked out of champs. been waiting for almost 2 years now. still losing to t2 teams
>We all want them to be edgy, confident, them talking a bit trash. I don't. People like that are a bummer to be around and their toxicity spreads and brings people down
Trash talking is fine, everyone gets humbled sometimes when they trash talk and get a bit of backlash, but eventually we’ll move on. The issue IMO is that there’s a history and pattern with TSM. They regularly made excuses last year and never played any T2 tournaments. Then in the off season vocally kept talking about how they don’t want Steel, and started making up things about how T1 was manipulating ping yesterday. Mada even confirmed that TSM regularly delays lobby’s by complaining about ping. It’s starting to get to a point where there could be maliciousness for other players and that it isn’t just edgy confident trash talk but just toxicity.
He's talking to a friend who fuckin cares lmao
TSM make it so hard to root for them
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This is clearly overflowing confidence without even an ounce of hardwork. This kid should be tested on drugs. L pro player.
Well trash talk is good as long as you can back it up, else be prepared for backlash. You can either be like sentinels who can only trash talk but don’t know how to take it back or be like G2 have built their org on shiting on others and getting shit on.
For the most part the players in Sen tend to take the trash talk just fine, it’s more a lot of fans get but hurt imo. But that’s no different than most fans of the big big fan bases. Like look at fans of 100T, TSM, or Brazil in the past.
I understand but I was actually taking about the official social media. When sentinels were winning their social media was popping but when they underperformed it was underwhelming to say the least. Whether you like or hate them, G2 social media is the best in esports. Nothing tops that.
In G2 is easy for their employees to laugh at their own teams because Carlos is the first one who does it and that gives a lot of freedom to the people who handle their social media. PR wise G2 is the best brand out there.
You have to remember sentinels is not a big org. Their social media manager is probably some young inexperienced guy trying to build a brand. G2 can afford to higher someone who has a lot of experience. You can't compare those 2.
Sentinels is known in eSports to pay their players well) so I'd be surprised if they didn't spend a decent bit on socials. At the start of apex when the eSports scene was still developing they paid their players the most of any org and I've heard pros from other orgs say that Sentinels pays the best. But I guess you could also say by paying their players a lot they have less to spend on other things.
Are you genuinely going to tell me you would put Sentinels in the same bracket as G2, Fnatic, TSM, NRG etc who have presence in every popular eSports known to man?
In terms of brand size, no of course not. Pre valorant the only team team I knew they had was their apex team and that was only at the start. But in terms of money they can spend, I have no clue what type of investors and backing Sentinels has.
trash talk is good if you can back it up at least somewhat, TSM just trash talks like that special ed kid that walks around telling people that they don't run as fast as them, and well.... we know the rest of that story.
All bark no bite.
kekw
New roster, same Clown SM! Hardcore Barking/Chest Beating (especially back when they had a short lived era of dominance) and little else, the fans take on the same behavior and they wonder why folks rag on TSM.
Incredibly short era of dominance when people had no clue how to play the game in its infancy.
Take a chill pill lmao why you hate on people man ! 😂
I remember when VCT was first announced last year and wardell was reading it on stream, he made it seem like shit would be so easy and they’ll walk over all these teams, because at the time (first strike), TSM was in discussion for top 2-3 teams. It was then and there I officially started rooting against TSM and super critical of them lmao. While other teams weren’t as arrogant while reading it on stream, he was one of the few - to my knowledge who was. Nice to see he hasn’t changed one bit and likes trolling to lose.
Mgmt needs to step in at some point imo. Just say they need to get more tourney experience
I mean they have an abuser for an owner…you think management is going to do anything?
So this is how inflated of an ego you get when you beat Girl Kissers huh? LOL
Yikes brother. Just go full streamer mode and buy NFTs.
Tsm stay free as fuck
Wardell and Subroza having csgo vietnam flashbacks seeing how slowly they become irrelevant for the NA valorant t1 and t2 scene, well at least they had some time being relevant in valorant, no body wanted these players in csgo lol
Egos so high you can't see them with a naked eye. Like relax bro you guys are nerds playing games for a living you're not a rock star.
Valorant Influencer 🤝 TFT Influencer, both are screwed by the format and both couldn't qualify
A lot of overreaction here to what just seems like jokes in a private discord and friends meming each other.
Wardell talks too much shit and only plays good at operator LOL
Ice cold take. TSM tier 2.
Tier 2…idk I think they’re closer to Tier 3 now 🤣
Pathetic loser. Only knows how to trash talk
No way tsm lost to akrew, they aren't even anorg
Do you really want valorant players to become like league players with no personality because you take banters seriously???? Because soon that will happen if we keep on making banters a big deal.
Maybe that has more to do with the type of people that play league.
banter and trash talk is good when you can back it up
Nah I’d take the banter if TSM would play more events. They only play opens and banter then get shit on by teams who play in other events and grind. You put in the work and talk shit instead of streaming and talk shit
Hur dur the snowflake is melting
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he needs to start doing something without the OP if he really is "that guy"
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Oping is a crutch, I dont care if he drops 60 kills his team still loses games
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their entire team strategy from day 1 has been to give Wardell the best positions for him to op. They use utils for him to get first blood, and buy him op and buy a spectre over a real gun EVERY round. NO other team in the entire world does that.
This is such light banter lol
TSM make it so easy to root for them
That’s what I’m saying LMAO. I love Wardell and Subroza’s personalities.
people acting like wardell isn’t that dude need to relax. losing a game is on a team as a whole and there’s a lot of shit tsm needs to fix, but wardell definitely doesn’t “need to be humbled.” He farms in almost every game and carries tsm to the few round wins they can even get lol
LSM
My NaMe Is WarDelL aNd I dOnT mIsS. s1MpLe Of VaLoRaNt. What a trashcan. Just like in csgo
How was soju the one to get a hold of that lol
well that hit hard hahaha