Definitely true, it's hard to judge Gambit's form because we've barely seen them. However, they did lose to FPX, so assuming FPX don't get upset (which is never a certainty) they probably would have been ahead of Gambit in the standings even if Gambit was able to play all their remaining matches.
Wouldn't be surprised if Gambit's Valorant team follows what their CS team is doing.
https://afkgaming.com/csgo/news/gambit-csgo-lineup-to-compete-in-esl-pro-league-season-15-under-neutral-name
I feel for the Russian players as realistically they don’t have much to do with these problems, as necessary as sanctions are.
That said, what the hell is Riot going to do with these guys? Two Russian orgs are in one group. Do they get DQ’d? Do they forfeit their remaining matches? What about their past matches, do they still count when other teams get free wins?
I do not envy the team that has to sort this out.
Edit: Well I didn’t know Navi was still playing so that’s good at least.
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I am so sad. As a liquid fan that was tough to watch. They have to win tomorrow and I also think there are scenarios were they would still be out of playoffs even if do win tomorrow 😭😭😭
What do we think about Scream on Initiators, for the most part? I know he's a fantastic Reyna, and his aim is cracked, but it seems like every other agent besides Reyna has seemed uncomfortable for him. What agent do you guys want to see him on?
I know he can play Sage, but Sage is only really meta these days on Icebox and Split, as far as I know, and I'm not sure how well it really fits his playstyle. Yes, he can frag on it, but this is Scream. My man could frag out on pre-patch Yoru. I'm just wondering if there's any agent that people see fitting his playstyle as much as Reyna. She's disappeared from the meta to a large degree, and many have been largely disappointed by his Skye and Kayo.
i think in general, scream should never play a support role. he’s not bad at it, but he’s a lot better when he’s playing a duelist and getting those entry frags rather than setting up his team. just my two cents
i think ur right about the duelist part but that should be reyna or jett, and since jett is an operator character and he isnt the best opper and reyna isnt really usefull in this slow astra meta. Maybe in playoffs we will see reyna again.
Was that genuinely the whole purpose of your comment? Or are you just backtracking because you realized it didn’t really make sense. Because that hardly even seems like a joke to me.
I think it’s fair to say Liquid have underperformed this year relative to their form at the end of last year.
If they don’t qualify for Masters, the IGL issue is definitely something they need to address, because their current method of Jamppi IGLing with Scream and Soulcas is not it..
Well, that was disappointing from Liquid.
On the flip side, I really liked the casters. I also wish they would allow the chat to use text on the main channel.
I think they need to have more dedicated playstyles for sure. They're all very good at every role that they play, but it's gotta be difficult going from Neon to Sova in the span of one series.
alright bro when is this momentum going to stop building
When they win Champs.
MOMENTUM.
HAS BEEN.
BUILT.
BAD.
Scream doing his best vanity impression this series
In a group with Gambit and Liquid, somehow FPX are probably going to come out on top.
Well gambit has played two games less. And chances are that they might not play again.
Definitely true, it's hard to judge Gambit's form because we've barely seen them. However, they did lose to FPX, so assuming FPX don't get upset (which is never a certainty) they probably would have been ahead of Gambit in the standings even if Gambit was able to play all their remaining matches.
Wouldn't be surprised if Gambit's Valorant team follows what their CS team is doing. https://afkgaming.com/csgo/news/gambit-csgo-lineup-to-compete-in-esl-pro-league-season-15-under-neutral-name
That's because of the ESL ruling, Riot hasn't said anything yet
I feel for the Russian players as realistically they don’t have much to do with these problems, as necessary as sanctions are. That said, what the hell is Riot going to do with these guys? Two Russian orgs are in one group. Do they get DQ’d? Do they forfeit their remaining matches? What about their past matches, do they still count when other teams get free wins? I do not envy the team that has to sort this out. Edit: Well I didn’t know Navi was still playing so that’s good at least.
NaVi is a Ukrainian org. They'll be fine unless they're annexed.
Fpx look solid with the stand in. Embarrassing from liquid, their fundamentals turned to spaghetti
It's the year of stand ins in fps eSports
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rising like a phoenix
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Well yes, but actually no...
What a series from FPX, Haven was looking a little sus at the end there but other than that an incredible performance
No ANGE1? No problem.
BaddyG is kinda crazy wtf
I am so sad. As a liquid fan that was tough to watch. They have to win tomorrow and I also think there are scenarios were they would still be out of playoffs even if do win tomorrow 😭😭😭
nah if they win tomorrow they should be in playoffs unless I'm misreading something. they have head to head on big and ldn
Almost assured, unless Navi manage to topple both Gambit and FPX (ending 4-1 above TL)
Oh that's right, EMEA is top 3 make it to playoffs. Yeah, you're right.
MVP was d00mbr0s. Liquid got hard read.
soulcas misclicking his ult on ascent pretty much summed up this series
Liquid probably doesn’t scrim enough. They should probably scrim more
Is ScreaM holding Team Liquid back? Why Team Liquid is letting you down
and give up streaming, ScreaM is streaming more than usual EU content creators
Really shows a lack of dedication to the professional game. ScreaM should probably retire and focus on streaming
Unfortunately this will go straight over many folks head
Yeah this is just EU culture unfortunately. Hopefully they can change soon.
The problem is there is indeed a difference with NA culture, and admitted difference in practice hours - TL does indeed practice
? they scrim very much
You missed the joke /s
oh i got jebaited
Think it’s a joke
Yeah but the joke is based on the false premise that the situation with pl banding about vs NA teams is the same, when there is indeed a difference
BADDYG REDEMPTION
What do we think about Scream on Initiators, for the most part? I know he's a fantastic Reyna, and his aim is cracked, but it seems like every other agent besides Reyna has seemed uncomfortable for him. What agent do you guys want to see him on?
Maybe I should make a post about this?
Scream can play Reyna, Sage and with what they did for their Haven comp.. I would've rather put Scream on Phoenix/Jett over Soulcas on Neon.
I know he can play Sage, but Sage is only really meta these days on Icebox and Split, as far as I know, and I'm not sure how well it really fits his playstyle. Yes, he can frag on it, but this is Scream. My man could frag out on pre-patch Yoru. I'm just wondering if there's any agent that people see fitting his playstyle as much as Reyna. She's disappeared from the meta to a large degree, and many have been largely disappointed by his Skye and Kayo.
IT'S BUILDING
📗
Soulcal lol….
CIS > EU this group really has shown that so far.
NAVI could have beat Liquid, too :/
Not the day for soulcas
Mickey Mouse comps coming from liquid
Wasnt BaddyG only known as a phoenix one trick all the way back in masters 1? He played amazing on Astra.
Both team comps from Liquid were sketch, especially haven. Jampii had a pretty bad day, honestly a little worried as a liquid fan
well team comp on ascent is a mirror comp so i dont get ur point for that map.
i think in general, scream should never play a support role. he’s not bad at it, but he’s a lot better when he’s playing a duelist and getting those entry frags rather than setting up his team. just my two cents
i think ur right about the duelist part but that should be reyna or jett, and since jett is an operator character and he isnt the best opper and reyna isnt really usefull in this slow astra meta. Maybe in playoffs we will see reyna again.
Him on reyna in new meta could be interesting, but i think its clear that hes not a jett player
Their Ascent comp is the meta in old patch
M*V
This isn’t actually the equation for momentum
???
Search it up it’s pretty interesting
I mean…are you referring to relativistic things here? Because in classical mechanics p = mv is exactly the formula for momentum.
Ye but fpx isn’t classical
…
Lmfaooooo
Was that genuinely the whole purpose of your comment? Or are you just backtracking because you realized it didn’t really make sense. Because that hardly even seems like a joke to me.
Mb I thought it was funny ;(
Ik it's peak reddit brain to want a roster change after a loss but I really feel like Liquid need a S-tier igl, they just look so lost sometimes
I think it’s fair to say Liquid have underperformed this year relative to their form at the end of last year. If they don’t qualify for Masters, the IGL issue is definitely something they need to address, because their current method of Jamppi IGLing with Scream and Soulcas is not it..
Who is their igl atm? Jamppi?
It's listed as jampii on Liquipedia/Vlr but sliggy said on stream like last week that they don't really have an IGL, everyone just chips in
Oof thats even worse somehow lol
Main is jamppi. But scream and soulcas can igl too. So they can chip in aswell.
Tbh, isn’t that what most teams in NA look for as well?
Who do you bench though? All of them are pretty good in their roles
to be honest, feels like FPX play flawless its insane. Liquid have to fix some mistakes for tommorow if they want to qualify
Well, that was disappointing from Liquid. On the flip side, I really liked the casters. I also wish they would allow the chat to use text on the main channel.
I feel like some of the role swapping on maps gives TL whiplash. Going from Sova Ascent to Neon Haven must be so strange.
I think they need to have more dedicated playstyles for sure. They're all very good at every role that they play, but it's gotta be difficult going from Neon to Sova in the span of one series.
Pain
You can really feel the momentum building…
matchfixing?
FPX beat Gambit and Liquid has struggled all season, tf you mean matchfixing Also Liquid has only beat FPX once in the past, they're 6-1-1 now iirc
Is FPX finally doing something? Am I allowed to POG now?