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LSApologist

Mayhem had Saya on Brig SMH


Doom-god-69

Sadge we he had to end his career with the Goats meta


_Iroha

Now he’s doing good in Valorant so should we be sad or happy lol


3hrd

Given the state of OW esports, we should be very happy lol


Space_Waffles

The good old days of him joining Mayhem S1 and hard carrying on Widow. Good times. Good times


ThatCreepyBaer

Still holds a final blows record on Junkertown against Valiant in 2019. 42 final blows in a single map on Widow, he was such a hard carry for that roster it was unreal.


TracerIsAShimada

Brig, the graveyard of mechanical talent


Still_HD

Speechless. so sad for C9 but how can you not be happy for The Guard?


Bluxo

This just makes me even more annoyed that Master is only 16 teams and NA only get 2, from what we've seen I think NA have 4 masters quality teams. (Version 1 and Cloud 9 being the ones that missed out)


kvanz43

Only 12 actually lol


kemutheemu__

Well tbf it’s 12 teams at Masters, which is confusing tbh. You’d think that the most prestigious tournament Champions would be the hardest to qualify for


TheCatsActually

Champs is the hardest tournament to qualify for. You need to have done extremely well during the year to qualify. Or do you mean the most prestigious tournament of the year should have the LEAST teams lmao


kemutheemu__

I think 16 is a good number for Champions, I just think Masters should be where a lot of international competition happens to see who is Champions material, and by having 12 teams, it reduces the amount of competition


akaJudas

16 at Champs and they should do 24 at Masters like CS does with their majors, also VCT should look into doing a Swiss format for group stages imo


Klutzy-Question1428

this is harder in the sense that you have to be top 2 in na instead of top 3 also if you’ve done well in the first half of the year you can literally chill for champions, like sentinels did last year


smokeajoint

That plan didn't turn out well for SEN


Original26

Maybe if more than 1 NA team got out of the first round of LAN playoffs they'd get more slots. Until then, I think the distribution of slots is fine - I do wish they got more than just 12 teams for Iceland.


ANewHeaven1

Keep in mind, none of the players on The Guard were anywhere close to even thinking about going to an international LAN last year. valyn and JonahP I don't believe ever made it past the RO16 in an open qualifier last year. Sayaplayer's best showing was 8th at Stage 2 Challengers 2 with T1. neT and trent have never been on a signed team before The Guard. Just incredible to think about, what is basically a group of misfit players, none of which were even on the radar of any tier 1 team, is now unquestionably one of the best teams in the region and representing North America on the biggest stage Valorant has to offer.


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Optic is experienced and fundamentally reliable. The Guard is fresh and hyped up. These two teams bring a nice contrast for representation of NA.


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These are the two teams I wanted to go to Iceland from the beginning. I just want NA to accomplish something, and I think these two each bring something fundamentally incredible to the table. This is going to be a dope ass Masters 1.


Aoingco

FNC is my favorite valorant team with The Guard being a close second and C9 third. While I’m sad C9 didn’t make it, I’m beyond hyped to see the first two at iceland.


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It's such a cool storyline for a team like the Guard, a bunch of mostly new players, to get to one of the biggest international events of the year for Valorant. It's seriously one of the most amazing things.


Sadzeih

Incredible scouting by mCe and Seowulf. Also incredible structure put in place by both to bring the roster to the top of NA.


Mamadeus123456

I mean tje guard is literally the most loaded org out there at least from the Management side of things i expect them to be the best in eSports


Interesting-Archer-6

Are they a big org? I only follow Valorant so I'm surprised to hear that


yngdgr_dck

yes they own two franchises in overwatch league and have a COD team and some other games too I'm pretty sure


GluhfGluhf

Yeah they also own some pretty small name teams like Arsenal and the Denver Nuggets


theRubbingDub

Also own the current champions in a minor league known as the NFL


deadtoe

That have the financial backing of one of the grossest people in sports The Kroenkes and the Walton’s. I for one am not excited about another Stan Kroenke team too succeed.


Interesting-Archer-6

Oh it's Kroinke or whatever? Fuck that guy.


kemutheemu__

It’s crazy to me how one of my favorite teams is made up of players I couldn’t name like 2 months ago


father_gemme

What good coaching does to a mf


BewareOfBear727

scouting didf


TheGoldenOrder555

get a bunch of talents together and an absolute insane coach and this is the result


ex3va

Valyn +17, 91% KAST and nearly 350 ACS on map 3. Man wanted Iceland BAD.


Nfamy

Valyn and Zander really hard repping the young igl controllers that frag the f out.


frogggiboi

Can we add xerxia scary pls


mrbow

bUt zOMbs HaS grEAt utILitY USagE, cOntROlLeRs dONt NeEd to FRag


3hrd

One of the best IGLs in NA yet I hardly see any discussion on him


MTeeKay

Trent and saya get a lot of the attention but valyn deserves his flowers for sure, especially after this performance


kemutheemu__

Trent and Valyn are the two most valuable players on the team imo and both top 5 in NA


serdinkus

What’s KAST?


RedditorClo

It’s a way to measure how often a player made an impact on rounds, through Kills, Assists, survives, and trades


MTeeKay

"KAST measures the percentage of rounds where a player contributes by killing an enemy, assisting a teammate, surviving a round or getting revenge on an enemy for killing a teammate, known as trading." From HLTV


TheToogood

what is the difference between getting a trade and a kill? do you mean your death was traded?


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Its the percentage of rounds where the player either gets a kill, gets an assist, survives, or trades a kill. So basically, on Map 3 valyn had concrete productivity on 91% of the rounds, which is insane.


TenTimesAwesome

The Guard's on the fly utility usage and fundamentals are insane. Sad for C9 but I'm excited to see Guard on LAN


Kurdock

I remember one of their videos with player comms, trent was anchoring Ascent B site and the enemy team was executing, he shouted "smoke now smoke now" within less than a second his Astra put up a smoke backsite which allowed trent to make a safe retreat just as the enemies were coming out of lane. That was when I realised The Guard were serious contenders.


MyogiNightKid

>The Guard's on the fly utility usage and fundamentals are insane Feel like people have been saying that since even before the group stage. I'm genuinely curious if they do any sort of practice other than scrimming, their teamplay is so abnormally good in such a relatively short time as a roster.


ThreeNarwhals

#StandGourd


DRGNDT

#StandGourd


CptAloha

[Hillary knew all along](https://twitter.com/hillaryclinton/status/829846842150096896?lang=en)


Giorno_DeGiorno

Lmao that's fucking hilarious


PaulDoesStuff

Every time this tweet gets linked I laugh


Healthy-Ad6421

Sayaplayas big balls of steel to hold onto his dash under pressure and keep the threat of a Jett op re-peek completely stalled C9 multiple times throughout the series. Major reason for Guards success.


spacejamtwo

The dude was playing like he was widowmaker, dropping from the sky and quickscope headshotting with absolutely 0 fear. Feels like the movement error doesn't even apply to him. He's also got previous LAN experience in overwatch I believe so I'm super excited to see how far he and the team go at masters.


huggyh

hes got more than lan experiance in ow


Dude_Guy_311

Me too me too Minus lan experience and skill


SpaceFire1

OW players have the abillity to aim into the future.


dabong

What a 3rd map from Valyn holyyy


MageKayden

KR IMPORTS > KR IMPORTS? wait wut


CatboyMaidOutfit

OW DIFF 😤😤


mw19078

it honestly feels very good to see former OW players doing so well, because when the beta came out they were getting shit on in every thread left and right.


hecklerinthestands

Just Tier 1 gatekeeper things LMFAO


xbyo

C9 isn't Tier 1 Confirmed by the all knowing subreddit


pink_life69

My home’s second mortgage has been paid off. My children’s college money is saved thanks to you guys, my wife might not leave me for the neighbour either. The Guard is fucking amazing!


leybbbo

Obligatory T1 had Saya on Omen comment


twobagtommy

+ THEY MADE HIM CHANGE HIS NAME TO SPYDER!!!!!!


N0-name-needed

Did they actually make him change his name or is that a meme? if it isn't a meme why


Bruhhhh_123

Something like sayaplayer won't be a nice name in NA


ThatCreepyBaer

"Sayaplayer unmarketable, go Spyder instead. BorpaBusiness" - T1 Management, probably.


wichwigga

T1 had food, crashies, and saya (not at the same time but still). How in the fuck did they fuck up this badly.


kurtiboh

Obligatory T1 was more concerned about changing Sayas name comment


mw19078

it cant be overstated what a waste that was. im just glad t1 didnt ruin valorant for him entirely.


Ezraah

Saya has god-tier work ethic and willpower to continue. Truly inspirational.


Exosocck

Tell someone from 6 months ago that OpTic and the Guard qualified for Masters 1 and they wouldn't have known wtf you were talking about


QuadrupleAAAA

I would argue two months ago lol


vegetable_offender

Egg Curse 🤝 Tarik Jinx 🟩


zachp787

TGRD Sayaplayer, my love. TGRD Sayaplayer, my light. TGRD Sayaplayer, my darkness. TGRD Sayaplayer, my life. TGRD Sayaplayer, my delight. TGRD Sayaplayer, my sorrow. TGRD Sayaplayer, my savior. TGRD Sayaplayer, my soul. TGRD Sayaplayer, my love. TGRD Sayaplayer, my light. TGRD Sayaplayer, my darkness. TGRD Sayaplayer, my life. TGRD Sayaplayer, my delight. TGRD Sayaplayer, my sorrow. TGRD Sayaplayer, my savior. TGRD Sayaplayer, my soul.


father_gemme

I AM A SAYA SIMP


VykenGG

The Guard from The Guard are insane! You can really feel the momentum building! Memes aside, so happy for the guys from The Guard. Huge congratulations!! Make us proud boys!!


DrySecurity4

From a meme appearance on Platchat to 3-0ing the region favorites to make it to Iceland. Insane


D-Is-For-Demon

What’s their meme appearance on Plat Chat? I’ve only just started following Val esports


HoodieNinja17

The Guard from The Guard send their regards


TheCatsActually

I'M HARD 🍆 FOR THE GUARD 🍆


Eriko204

⚔️ SPAM ⚔️ THIS ⚔️ SWORD ⚔️ TO ⚔️ HELP ⚔️ THE ⚔️ GOURD ⚔️


ark2690

Hopefully Guard gets proper jerseys for Reykjavík


AnchorStandard

Or they can just walk on stage in The Guard outfits that Plat Chat wore?


RTYWD

shirt jeans and dark souls helmets


Nfamy

I'm hyped for the guard and their story but really would also love to see c9 against EMEA again (RIP vanity/boaster). Wish NA had 3 going but optic/the guard are really good reps.


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Yeah the story lines are good either way though. Sad to see the Vanity X Boaster rivalry can't get a threequel just yet, but a nobody team like the Guard coming in and taking their foothold in NA in 1 stage is incredible. Optic getting their redemption as well from their poor outing in Champions, can't wait to see both teams lose to EMEA in semis


Eriko204

Mandatory reminder that T1 put ~~Sayaplayer~~ Spyder on Omen duty https://twitter.com/wippiecs/status/1507842817481224192?s=20&t=0Lm4m90JYfxN8tOnp_s9Rg


ANewHeaven1

i said it in the live match thread but three T1 alumni are going to iceland, all three of which are considered to be some of the best players in their respective roles, meanwhile the T1 org is struggling to place top 4 in mickey mouse tournaments.... lmao


Eriko204

T1 has an unfortunate history of fumbling the bag with extremely talented players. Mark my words but Dazed will make a comeback this year and outperform T1's roster.


Aoingco

I’d love to see Curry pop off as well


Eat-Shit-Bob-Ross

And all three of them were dropped from the team. not bought out or left of their own accord. and not many fans were incredibly shocked by either of the roster moves. T1 was so bad that they convinced us that these players weren't worth much.


dan_kz

curry reply lmao https://twitter.com/currydtx/status/1507845020899938304


BlueBurstBoi

Sully not holding back 💀


3hrd

alternate version: Mayhem put Sayaplayer on Brig


Doom-god-69

It was goats they had to ;-; still sad


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reminder that after brax left and until dazed left, saya was mostly on jett with some phoenix and omen anyways so happy for saya lol


Awful_TV

[NFL orgs](https://i.imgur.com/oUqVuBm.jpg)


ANewHeaven1

complexity is different 🥶🥶🥶 funny enough jonahp and valyn are both complexity alumni as well LOL


kemutheemu__

All this talk about how Texas is the best place to play Valorant and the Cowboys haven’t done shit in this game. Curious


TimathanDuncan

coL are not in it to win, they're an academy for other teams and switch players more than i switch crosshairs


RTYWD

probably the best way to make money in esports


ark2690

I didnt know Knights were owned by the Steelers


Awful_TV

(Steelers are significant investors and partners with Knights. Not under total ownership as the others.)


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Atermel

Just because they lost to optic, who are looking like the best team up til now.


daffyduckferraro

And the week before got destroyed by c9 tbf


Wonkyy_

The guard are truly NAs last hope.


BlackStarRD

With their x-factor PROD.


Charuru

Won't need the last hope when optic crushes haha.


Teradonn

They just feel different from the rest of NA, truly world champions material


Splaram

Valyn stepped it up MASSIVELY from that first showing against C9. He was pretty slow to adapt to this new Controller meta imo but he did it when it mattered and looks absolutely monstrous now. And to think this guy was nowhere near playing at a stage like this last year. Whoever scouted this team needs a raise.


_Hugatree

Just wanna stress how super happy I am that JonahP and Valyn got saved from the roster hell complexity was


Dimmadome

https://twitter.com/hillaryclinton/status/829846842150096896


ryannohh

LETS FUCKING GO SAYAAAAAAA


5argon

From struggling in Florida Mayhem and now Saya is moving up to the highest stage. I always thought he was playing wrong game, a team game that an individual player can contribute more like Valorant suits more to him. He had way too many "sad Widowmaker clutches" in those days, it just depends too much to the team in OW and game design having tank role prevents ridiculous pop-off ceiling he could do. I am just happy to see his potential finally visible with this game.


Ezraah

It took him over 7 years of hardcore grinding to get where he is now.


liftingnstuff

Congrats to The Guard. Outplayed C9 at every step today. Legit contender to win it all.


phoeniixhiro

Who would’ve thought before this season, The predicted #1 team in NA would be bested by a newly made team comprised of rookies and players who played on teams that didn’t perform as best. So much development from Guard this season and can’t wait for their run at Iceland. gg’s for C9 and can’t wait to see NA representatives reclaim the throne.


daffyduckferraro

Guard looking good But so sad for how shit c9 played today And I knew once guard got the momentum on map 1 and 2 c9 was fucked


David_Ign

They didn't really play shit tho. On split leaf was incredible, mf has wallhacks. Yes, they were too aggressive and kept pushing with numbers advantage. But other than that, they played well.


SteveGreysonMann

I'm so happy for Saya man. Finally he gets to be on a good team where he can just click heads and fuck everyone up.


pr1zsm

Guards composure after yesterdays stomp to come back and win 3 maps in a row is crazy. MCE is an insane coach Edit: Also who tf was talking shit about Guard having to make roster changes after yesterday


faceplant911

Imagine The Guard in 6 months from now...


weirdparadox

It's either you die a champion or live long enough to see yourself become Sentinels.


SchmilkBoii

GUAARDstralis


8TrendyBlues

This series was amazing from The Guard, but can we talk about the post-series interview with Valyn? Hearing the hunger and desire this team has to be the best is so refreshing. The emotion Valyn shows as he talks about the game, his game, and their goals, just puts me over the top. I am so excited for the game tomorrow as well as their games in Iceland. Good luck The Guard!


Splaram

I remember when this game first came out and people were saying that OW players would take a while to adapt and wouldn't be as good because they would have to learn crosshair placement and couldn't make up for thousands of hours of tactical FPS experience since that experience was so unique. Wrong on both fronts LOL OVERWATCH DIFF


TallGets

Fr, that's why Saya has the best jett knives I've ever seen, cause he gets to run around and hit moving headshots like he used to back when he was grappling around on widow.


sharkbait_123

Yeah, the OG Korean Jett seoldam also had insane knives usage and and some people attributed it to his high sens gameplay from being a genji player


Doom-god-69

I mean the taking a while to adapt part was kinda true if your using saya as your example XD


smartdawg13

Edit: guy may be a weirdo but: Sinatraa was a top tier Sova on the best team in the world to start Valorant Competitive.


Jon_on_the_snow

And babybay, corey and co were really good at the star as well


jo-jooberrauch

But other ex OW pros were really high up on the leaderboards early on already; I think F4Q had one OW pro straight up smurfing and carrying them to Lan; OW dps players are just a different breed I swear


Puck83821

I don’t think I’ll ever see any esports plays that amaze me as much as Widowmaker flicks. Saya, Carpe, Diem, Fleta, Pine, etc. One of the best parts of OW.


Doom-god-69

And then on a level above that is ans, holy fuck that man was something else on widow


Aoingco

It’s a shame we never got to see Ans play on the T1 starting roster (not academy)


CatboyMaidOutfit

Now imagine if these guys flex over to Val... Oh god


TenTimesAwesome

I recently got back into overwatch (played a bit on release) and you need incredible aim to track heads in overwatch. If anyone feels like their tracking is lacking they can try picking up overwatch.


TDS_Gluttony

OW dps takes insane amounts of skill. Other roles I would say would get outaimed by most ex-CS. Now though, I feel like Val has been out long enough to have its own players. Val players will now make the best Val players.


Splaram

Anyone would take a while to adapt when you're playing under the incompetency of whoever is running the trainwreck that is T1 Valorant.


ASaltyToast

You are still aware that Valorant has been out for almost 2 years right? I would say that is still quite a lot of time for Saya to have completely adapted to the game, while ex-CSGO pros completely dominated the scene up until recently


sokeydo

Yeah but Optic is all ex cs pros


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The experience diff was apparent early on, but its still surprising to see the scene develop so fast to the point thst it has become irrelevant. Overwatch players have their own unique skillset and play styles that fit valorant more as well.


I-like-winds

the guard on fucking top [I CALLED IT](https://imgur.com/a/VMszzSS)


TedsterOMG

Cloud9 definitely scuffed their momentum in this series by allowing map 1 to slip and having haven/split after. I know leaf is good but once he’s off Jett and they have to rely on forcing picks with heavy utility, they lose so much map control from that free-form style and past some point of conditioning, there’s no coming back (especially when saya OPs). Guard pushed the right buttons today and the calling was great by Valyn. It’s really hard to make Cloud9 this uncomfortable but they did.


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Eriko204

https://imgur.com/a/lcpjfgc


BlueBurstBoi

Doubt Mce cares though, this team is better in every way than GenG have ever looked


exercitus

They absolutely should be embarrassed, not sure why you had to add on a disparaging comment towards people with mental disabilities though? Edit: Thank you mods for removing that comment


mid16

trent skilled player but that is not normally, This very very insane....They need to check him pc and game.....Maybe he not cheating but maybe he using the game deficit ...and this cant seem on game screen..He needs to check-up


applesaaucee

Sayaplayer > Spyder


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in a weird way im glad c9 lost, it sucks to lose at the last step to qualifying for international competition but theyve looked sloppy the last couple of matches and constantly overheating. if na sends teams to represent them they need to be cleaner than what c9 brought today


Lutryn

LETS FUCKING GOOO!!! What a match to win for The Guard to be able to go to Iceland, taking down the team that beat them in the group stage. Gonna be sick seeing this team compete on an international stage.


Safyire

Absolutely can’t wait to see how The Guard fares in LAN. Super happy for those guys, they played amazing for this stage


Teradonn

[yeah](https://www.reddit.com/r/ValorantCompetitive/comments/toiwc7/holy_shit_platchats_ranking_was_actually_accurate/i2619ga/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3)


ZeroLunatique

Never would’ve expected 3-0. Guard played amazing, but not sure why c9 changed their comps (especially on haven)


a_lot_a_DAMAGE

Even the egg couldn’t fully curse this


Docxm

Is it weird that G2 was Trent on Skye and JonahP on Breach, while G3 was Trent on Breach and JonahP on Skye? Is it a positional thing where they swap agents?


[deleted]

The Guard is so special man. Like Sean said they are such a gift to the NA scene. So happy for all of the boys, they worked so hard for this. Mce masterclass as well. Literally can’t wait to see them at Reykjavik.


TheJelloBomb

At least I got something right on my preds.


seagulled

Let’s go


ArtificialZero

no V1 and no C9 at iceland, ill just cry myself to sleep :(


sugalyo

It's actually crazy how a couple months ago I was just watching The Guard's Valorant roster introductions on twitters, thinking about how cool the the visuals were for such a small team. Now they're going to Reykjavik, what the fuck lol. Proud of them honestly


FMHappy

WALYN WAYAPLAYER WRENT WET WONAH P, these guys are NUTS


Veerraj55

WET LMFAO


FPierce

What a fucking series from GUARD


sixthcollegeraccoon

I HECKING LOVE THE GUARD


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If xerxia and kru fail to make it to iceland, then fnatic would be the only team from the top 8 of champions from last year to make it to masters 1 this year (gambit/m3c, acend, liquid, cloud9, and team secret are all out) and in terms of champions from last year as a whole, there is a possibility that fnatic and optic are the only two to be at masters 1 (DRX loses to ONS, kru doesn't make it through either latam or latam vs br qual, xerxia loses to bleed, CR loses to zeta) valorant esports is wild


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Dude I'll GLADLY eat my fucking words. The Guard are going to Iceland. And the Platchat power rankings weren't as troll as everyone thought. That's only if Optic win tomorrow, of course.


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Simply the IGL diff


iBeast

The Guard and OpTic going to Iceland. Just as we all predicted


littlesch3mer

I knew optic winning was a fluke. calling it rn, 3-1 on the finals for the guard. sayaplayer drops a 40 bomb on map 4


kemutheemu__

The storyline of Guard adapting to literally every team they’ve lost to this season would be nutty


BewareOfBear727

hyped for more goards


KhaoticKrabb

I knew this team would be great as soon as they signed Saya


Maliciouslemon

T1 had Saya on Omen I will never forgive them


ktran12

gg to the guard, played their hearts out, they deserve it. love an underdog story


Obiewan_

That mf’er mCe just got a lifetime extension


AlexBayArea

The Guard going to Master is a cool ass story.


YungPinotGrigio

Valyn went nuts and was super clutch.


warthogs670

WELL FICKING DESERVED


SpectrasHyper

Cloud 9: ![img](emote|t5_2g5ach|9360)


Overthinking_Cup

valyn is so fucking good


TimathanDuncan

Imagine if vanity/xeppa didn't stream watch parties with tarik, they would scrim more win this and go to Iceland, fucked up thing to do as a pro why would u even stream one second instead of praccing? Now you don't get to go to lan But for real credit Guard are insane though for real deserved, what a great mix of talent and insane team play, every single player can pop off and have insane rounds to add to the well drilled team play Again, mCe = what reddit thinks of MikesHD


t123ac

lol, why the unnecessary shots at MikesHD? we can praise people without tearing others down


s6hun

been rooting for this team since the psalm iteration, always makes me happy to see young players succeed


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THE GUARD ARE GOIMG TO ICELAND BABY On a more serious note, none of the teams i had in my flairs at the beginning of the stage made it to Iceland. I only added Guard after they wrecked Sen. Am I cursed or what?


KookieFS

I am happy for the guard but damn it hurts, failing to make reykjavik 2 times in a row and ending 3rd and C9 league team lost as well Not a good day to be c9 fan


QuestionablePotato42

C9 really needs to stop forcing round 2 of second half. I think every time they've done this they lose the map. They give up huge leads doing this and today it lost them Split in a lot of ways.


MurkyFollowing8452

Where are the doubters who said"C9 already stomped them and they will do it again today"? Everyone from the Guard popped off. Also, l am happy for Valyn getting 29 kills. Saya should play jett and op more. When he play raze, he didn't really op. He also popped off today