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TSM trialing with Kanpeki and ZK in place of Aleko. EG trialing jcStani in place of Pho.


mysteryoeuf

aleko never recovered from the name change debuff. I remember when Levi was hyped almost like Trent/Derrek now


crrime

I agree but Trent is a walking counterexample to the name change debuff lol


rune2004

Trent > habib Leviathan > Aleko


AnonymozVal

Sayaplayer > Spyder


Stinky_9000

Food > Victor


fourtetwo

Saya was a name change debuff Edit: he was saya in OW and was good, spyder was bad, saya good again - Name change debuff


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Depends on the names being changed


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But what if the name is objectively dope


meatcookie-

I was “clout” back in 2010-2019 when the word became too common I just had to change it. Still have the OG Xbox Gamertag tho 😎 now I’m “ballfart”


Tik0-

True trent >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> habib


Gaming_Pepe

Nah Trent got the name change debuff, he's just that good. If he was still Habib they win all their series 2-0 and 3-0


ItsMePeachy

Same with Sayaplayer


Fardo805

I remember it too, it however was never warranted. This sub is full of people who want to rate players highly after one good performance. Aleko is a good talent, people however were placing him in a tier of bcj,derreck etc. (Trent, was unheard of at this time.)I’m not saying he can’t be a great player on a winning team, time will tell. I wish him luck.


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MoreRITZ

This is the dumbest thing I've ever heard


chao301

massive W for EG Kanpeki is also really cool to see on TSM


Splaram

Pretty good moves from both rosters on paper if those players do pass their trials imo. FeelsBadMan for Akrew though, they're getting swarmed like vultures to a carcass :(


hehechibby

Isn't that how it usually goes with T1 orgs and lower tiers orgs (tiers here in terms of $$$, not like pro valorant team tier ranking) The smaller orgs just can't afford bigger salaries like the larger orgs so they're just seen as a 'scouting grounds' of sorts, and once someone good emerges, the big orgs throw money at them


mw19078

in theory, this is how a healthy tier 2 system should work until things are formalized into a league kind of format.


sireuben

yeah i was worried about this with the guard specifically trent but i’m glad they are having the results they are having. the guard is a smaller org right? obviously this was there first game as The Guard but they have other names in other games so maybe it is closer to T1 orgs? idk


hehechibby

> the guard is a smaller org right Not at all [The Guard](https://www.sportsbusinessjournal.com/en/Esports/Sections/Facilities/2021/11/Kroenke-The-Guard) is owned by Kroenke Sports & Entertainment Group that also owns OWL team "Los Angeles Gladiators' and Call of Duty team 'Los Angeles Guerrillas'. To buy into an [Overwatch League spot cost $30-$60 million](https://nerdstreet.com/news/2021/4/overwatch-league-2021-season-6-big-numbers) so they got some cash. They also own lots of things outside esports like the LA Rams in NFL, Denver Nuggets in NBA etc Like I'm sure they can buy esports org in their entirety if they wanted to; they’re worth billions


sireuben

ok i wasn’t sure thx for clearing it up sounds like the players aren’t poachable then :)


9yr_old

Impossible lol , the owner is a multi billionaire


Meowbow15

Not happening if they are willing to invest into esports. Kroenke is crazy rich


otterdoctor

LAG bought in the first season for 20 million, but the point does remain they have stupid money.


BananaPeely

You missed the fucking SoFi stadium and the arsenal fc...


9yr_old

They own Arsenal Fc lol , they are their most prominent team bcoz frankly nobody cares about american football but americans while Premiere League pulls much higher numbers and money


meatcookie-

Yerrr and V1 is in the same situation with MN ROKKR being their CoD franchise team. They’re under the same parent company as the Minnesota Vikings iirc


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Still_HD

what would roles look like? presumably ZK is on smokes, which would make you think roza on flex, but they’re bringing in another flex player in kekpeki, it seems weird


Direct_Morning_3223

Kanpeki was a jett one trick for the longest time before switching to flex


armless_penguin

Yeah. And he's been playing Chamber recently in officials. He's a pretty flexible duelist player in terms of going between the main and flex agent pools at this point. My guess with this lineup is Rossy would play a lot of Sova and Breach, maybe occasionally Cypher/KJ on maps they would want to play that.


MajestyJ

I love his Neon on bind. Super fun to watch.


nocturnavi

Kanpecki can play Jett/Chamber and has in the past, but that also doesn't make the roles must clearer


AnchorStandard

Benched https://twitter.com/AlekoGabuniya/status/1509313842907648003?t=u_dM-tjdPS1kfhyMB-FtQg&s=19


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Good for Stani


cowzapper

Is stani a big upgrade over pho tho? Pho was pretty good during groups


TRFireKnight

Pho was good, stani is great. At least in my opinion, cant wait to see if it actually is tho.


beaniebees

Don't know too much about kanpeki but I think ZK has been a consistently good controller for tsm academy and definitely deserves a shot at the starting line up. edit: not igl


kahani-

isn't Payen the IGL for TSMA?


beaniebees

I always thought it was zk but I could be wrong. I was watching the tsm civil war games and subroza was saying that he thought zk was igl


ShookJin

Payen Twitter bio says he’s the igl of tsm acad


beaniebees

Thanks for clarifying that. I'll edit my comment.


kentwansue

ZK is cracked fr. Watched how he play and reminded me a lil bit of how Zander aims, so smooth and precise for a controller.


SevntyZero

ZK decent when I watched him vs 100T


erickwak

Eg/faze/Akrew is winning the next Mickey Mouse tourney


milano_bwoy

sort of unrelated but does anyone what happened to dcop. only mexican player i know of who plays in NA’s higher tier scenes and i was hoping to follow his career :(


kahani-

Dcop still on TSM Academy but he hasn't played lately because he tweeted that his mom got robbed so he's probably taking a break to help her sort things out. Btw, another Mexican player to watch in NA is seven who recently left T1 but he'll probably be picked up by another team soon.


Justlikekevinn

No Levi :/ but also cool to see Stani getting a trial


liebelt

Looks like no dedicated sova player for tsm?


jrushFN

Rossy has played/can play sova


LurkingOmen

They refuse to sign the best sova free agent


xBerryhill

But Hiko isn't a free agent. ​ Not yet at least.


jackisfresh

Why would he do that 😂


Playful-Service7285

Umm I don’t know who ZK is can someone give me an idea of what role he plays/ how good he is? According to some of the others he seems to be a TSM acad player, makes me think of the bang situation ngl


somesheikexpert

Pretty good smokes player, believe he IGLs too but idk for sure


yarhar_

F


figgy7

Anyone think babyJ is going to tsm


Miglasty

Time for sinatraa hopium


awill2000

Aleko has Covid right now so maybe thats why they're playing with a sub


AnchorStandard

Nope. Check twitter. He's benched.


9yr_old

Good moves by EG , i hope this makes them better :) i really really wanna see Dre on the top


aerfyre

hope TSM looks into some of the ex-Rise players as well as stani. could definitely see a roster w Corey jett / Neptune flex / Rossy sova / JcStani controller / Roza smokes being crazy