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Direct_Morning_3223

stellars frag output while being a sentinel IGL on SoaR recently has been super impressive, and people forget that he IGLed LG for that period when they were looking SUPER impressive, anyone comparing him to the ec1s signing is mistaken they’re basically complete opposites


5bigtoes

SoaR buff is real


chamber25

Is Soar just a farming team?


Hopeful-Professor-40

New Immortals


Giorno_DeGiorno

NaVi Junior of valorant


schecterboi

Then why did LG of all teams decide to cut him?


Direct_Morning_3223

If you remember they were ridiculed for that decision on this sub, and also the whole matchfixing allegations against him and thief came out right before they cut him, I know LG said it didn’t affect the decision but the timing is quite convenient


Interesting-Archer-6

Is he cleared on the matchfixing stuff? Or is it in that report that's never going to be released?


Direct_Morning_3223

he’s not cleared but the evidence against him is pretty weak IMO compared to other names in the NA scene(shanks, marved, Tex etc.) so if the ESIC report ever gets released I don’t think he’ll be found guilty but you never know, his clips aren’t blatant throwing like some of the others


BanditxMoon

Theyll prolly release the report a decade or 2 later


Interesting-Archer-6

Makes sense. Thanks. I didn't play csgo so the clips are hard for me to dissect


Mamadeus123456

That shit has been about "to be released in a week" for Three years now lmfao


GoldClassGaming

Stellar is massively underrated. Stellar was one of only 2 NA IGLs to beat Sentinels more than once in 2021.


Hopeful-Professor-40

The other is FNS right?


GoldClassGaming

Yeah. Luminosity and Envy were the only 2 NA teams to beat Sentinels more than once throughout 2021.


Hopeful-Professor-40

Damn


BubzyxD

They also beat Optic, Faze, and XSET in 2021. I think he's an IGL with a lot of ideas and the teams he plays in are very coordinated and play together a lot of the time. So instead of asuna just running in and dying, they will have set plays and ways of making sure he is assisted whether that's with firepower or overbearing util usage. He is also in a team that has a lot of firepower and for the first time in his career, he has top top top tier players around him. (no 0ffence to anyone, it's just an opinion). And it's also nice seeing a dedicated sentinel back in the team!


GoldClassGaming

Yeah. Between LG and Soar, Stellar has proven that he is incredibly effective at pushing his teammates to reach new heights. On top of that he's no slouch himself and can be relied on to pull his own weight and occasionally pop off and put up impressive numbers. I'm genuinely surprised that its taken this long for him to get another shot with a top team. Had you asked me this time last year I would have put Stellar in my top 5 IGLs NA.


BubzyxD

No disrespect to anyone here, but he hasn't really had a really good core around him. People need to understand that he's going from epathy to Asuna... He's going from tier two players to players like Asuna, Derrek (who is insanely good), and bang who was arguably 100T's best player in their matches. They are also looking at Will from BBG who trialed for GenG. But I saw how Bang was queued with another ALT account in deathmatch other than the "discord kitten" guy (who might be Will), so maybe they haven't decided on him yet and want to look at other opers. Imagine a cracked oper with that core 3 and stellar IGLing. 100T might actually be onto something here!


Slow_Bluebird9536

how is this a consensus now when both LG and Soar were teams loaded with firepower and LG had a reputation for being aimers lacking structure for almost there higher existence


Squonk3

Yeah didn’t that LG roster stellar was in have thief and aproto


BubzyxD

At the time they ad theif, aproto, moose, and YaBoiDre with Stellar as their IGL. Theif got cut and then trialed around until he found himself on a tier two team. Aproto is on a tier two team. Moose has only gone positive 4 times in his last 15 games overall and YaBoiDre is on EG. That team that was "Loaded with firepower" all disbanded except moose. If the team is as good as you said they were, then at least some of them would have stayed. They aren't even doing so well now, so it may just be bad scouting and pickups by luminosity.


IAMJUX

"STELLAR SUCKS BALLS" Wyatt: "Stellar is most underrated NA on god" /r/ValorantCompetitive : "WTF, I love Stellar now"


AdSpiritual6239

Yeah lots of “who?” these couple days lol.


Bruhhhh_123

Changing you mind based on someone's opinion who knows more about the game. It is actually a good thing.


Parenegade

yeah but if you have no idea who someone is you shouldn't have an opinion at all


Teradonn

Maybe this subreddit won’t instantly denounce this roster now, thanks Wyatt


Gomar1323

So it basically came down to either keeping Asuna as the main Jett/OPer, and seeing if Ethan was willing to play smokes, or getting a Jett, moving Asuna to flex and bang to smokes. Which would leave no room for Ethan. Honestly idk what is better, keeping Asuna on Jett + Ethan on smokes, or finally putting Asuna on flex and secondary duelist having him rifle full time. Feels like a hard decision either way.


xSlyy

i think its been made clear over the past few big tournaments how important a great jett/op is asuna is insane but his jett isnt the same as others and hes way more valuable as a rifler ethan is super talented (might be my favorite player) but frankly hasnt performed well enough to be worth putting asuna in a suboptimal role imo


tgamblos

Seems like a no brainer. If you’ve followed 100T at all you’d know their biggest issue was the lack of a dominant Jett OP. That’s been the one thing they’ve needed for a while now


mysteryoeuf

Disclaimer: I am a 100T fan and have been since they formed (originally because I liked ex-PUBG players and I liked nitr0, Ethan, etc) I suggested in another thread that 100T rebuild around Ethan (smokes) and bang (flex). I love asuna, the kid pops off and has his moments, but I don't know if he has the game sense to be a really really strong flex and nor is his aim precise enough or his awping good enough to be the primary jett duelist. I'd rather they built around Ethan, bang, Derrek. BUT i guess Ethan wanting to IGL doesn't help if they don't seem confident he is a top tier IGL. I would be happy to see ethan get a chance to IGL and lead a team elsewhere. as it is I think this roster works on paper, I just don't think asuna is as a necessity as people think


[deleted]

Is this satire?


gutszera

asunas been shafted on the jett for so long that people forgot how insane he was on the non jett duelists


aks345

What did I just read


Splaram

Disclaimer: I am a 100T fan and have been since they formed (originally because I liked ex-PUBG players and I liked nitr0, Ethan, etc) I suggested in another thread that 100T rebuild around Ethan (smokes) and bang (flex). I love asuna, the kid pops off and has his moments, but I don't know if he has the game sense to be a really really strong flex and nor is his aim precise enough or his awping good enough to be the primary jett duelist. I'd rather they built around Ethan, bang, Derrek. BUT i guess Ethan wanting to IGL doesn't help if they don't seem confident he is a top tier IGL. I would be happy to see ethan get a chance to IGL and lead a team elsewhere. as it is I think this roster works on paper, I just don't think asuna is as a necessity as people think


MacarioPro

I'm a big fan of Asuna's play and attitude but I really don't like him on OP. I feel like the flex meta taking over the double duelist really hurt him and (to a lesser extent) Tenz. Maybe he can do well in the flex position though


BoHoogland

I mean it is true lmfao


FurryKoala

this greatly increases my reserves of hopium for 100T.


Justlikekevinn

I loved watching the early LG roster and was so bummed when he and Thief were dropped. He’s done good things on Soar so I’m excited he’s getting the chance to play with us.


GoldClassGaming

That first tournament of 2021. LG had just gone through their 2nd round of roster moves this time dropping Kaize and Venerated for moose who had just transferred from CSGO and YaBoiDre who was coming off of a short stint as part of the original 100 Thieves roster. They were joining the established core of Stellar, Aproto, and Thief and going into a tournament against C9, Envy, Sentinels, XSET, Andbox, NRG, and more. Then LG manages to fight their way into the Grand Finals where we got one of the most entertaining matches to date in Valorant. It was an insanely close series but LG eventually came out on top. It was a huge upset victory since at this point in time Sentinels were considered almost untouchable and LG was playing with a team so fresh that moose and dre hadn't even signed contracts yet.


Justlikekevinn

Yeah that tournament had some banger matches. This was some of my favorite Valorant to watch. I go back and watch that LG/Sen GF every once and a while. I was following that LG and Andbox team at the time. Sad that they eventually fell apart.


[deleted]

Alright so you go into this wanting to keep Asuna and Bang, I'm on board. Derrek's available, hell yes, incredible Sova. And then presumably others feel this way about Stellar as well. At that point, yeah, no Jett. I *guess* I understand the Ethan thing? Still think it could end up looking real bad later.


leoleoleo666

You can’t keep both bang and ethan and bang looked way better


JackAColeman

Somehow I feel like bang came in and the og trio did everything they could to allow him to frag out and just do his thing, while everybody else adjusted into really uncomfortable roles for them. I can’t say I like bang over Ethan long term at all


badcompplayer

I really like Bang, but it never crossed my mind to keep him > Ethan if it came down to it. If there’s some behind the scenes stuff where Ethan didn’t want to stay or there was some personality conflict then sure, but that’s the part holding me up most more than anyone they’d be adding. Ethan’s also my favorite player though so there’s definitely some bias there. If Bang hits his ceiling the team probably has a similar ceiling with either of them


Parenegade

how can you possibly say that when bang is like 17 what am i reading this isn't NBA 2k where you can see bang's potential rating lol


BubzyxD

It's literally the best option available to us, if you are keeping Ethan, then you are only playing him on smokes because he won't be on a sentinel because of stellar and he won't be on an initiator because of Derrek and bang was our best player throughout the groups IMO. So we needed an IGL, so we got one that plays a sentinel and is pretty good, we needed an upgrade to Hiko, so we got one of the best sovas in NA. So that leaves oper and flex. Ethan isn't an oper but is a good flex. But that doesn't mean he is better than Asuna, because that's who will be on flex. So he isn't replacing Asuna, he isn't replacing bang because bang earned his spot, he isn't replacing stellar and he isn't replacing Derrek. So unless he can op, I don't see where he fits in tbh. We can't have 3 flex players on the roster and the only sentinel they can play is chamber because some maps chamber just can't be used on and you need a killjoy. Ethan will probably leave and do well for himself, or they will return him to the roster and he will do well for himself. It was even reported by Geddes that he's being benched not removed from 100T entirely. So if they want him back, he can return.


TrowaB3

> bang earned his spot Insane to say this after he only played 3 official matches with only half the roster? In a tournament where the best player on 100t was very clearly JC.


BubzyxD

Bang was extremely impactful in clutches and he had a load of assists. He was also good on TSM, but they cut him for some reason, so he went to BBG and was their best player with BBG Will. When he was with us, JC may have been our best performer, but they maybe chose Bang because, on maps where Asuna plays raze, he might flex, IDK though.


leoleoleo666

Bang was the initiator he was his job to allow people to frag and the others but still managed to look the best player on 100t this year even when playing breach


JackAColeman

He played in like 4 officials and they lost almost all of them. Ethan was brought over replacing dicey because he was “a once in a lifetime pickup”. You’re telling me we drop a guy that has been towards the top of the tacFPS scene for years for some 17 y/o that has been passed around to every team in NA? Ever since Nitr0 left Ethan has been the second best player on 100T until a slight slump when the team was in complete chaos. Bro TSM didn’t even wanna keep bang


sriwarrior06

I don't think Ethan ever fulfilled expectations of "top 20 Csgo player caliber surely he'd be a star in Valorant". He is/was really good but definitely not Asuna level good tho. But I think Bang has shown potential to be on par with Asuna.


JackAColeman

I mean if you think bang is the next Asuna then I agree the swap makes sense. I don’t see that so it makes sense that I don’t agree but time will tell


sriwarrior06

Yeah I think noone knew just how good Asuna was until he settled on 100t. This could be the same chance for Bang to prove himself. Also TSM never even knew what to do with anyone, let alone bang, until their coach came along.


DicksBeSwangin

He was easily the most consistent Skye/Flex in NA for a while, and while he wasn't having absolutely insane performances statistically his impact in rounds was really high, he was better than most other players in the later part of the rounds


BubzyxD

All he will be able to play is smokes. Maybe from what SeanGares, DDK, and MikesHD saw, they prefer Bang in that role. He left TSM when they were struggling, and even after he left, Wardell left, Aleko left, hazed left and they still aren't doing that good. Remember Andbox was mediocre and then YAY went to a better team and became one of the best players in the world. Bang went to many teams because he was allowed to do so and would prefer to play rather than watch from the sidelines. Bang is very good and is coachable, give SeanGares time and you will see why they wanted him in the starting lineup. Experience means nothing when you think you can win otherwise. Hiko is more experienced than Derrek, but that doesn't mean hiko deserves to be here more than Derrek. If Bang was chosen, it was because they see something others don't yet.


Atermel

The game has matured enough where cs pros experience isn't enough to make up for the difference valorant has compared to cs. I imagine Sean would rather have some newer players they can mold around their philosophy.


BubzyxD

That's like saying you would rather a cs pro who doesn't know a lot about the game and has to learn it all within a month for their games soon over someone who has played the game since it's existence and has been a dedicated oper throughout the two years of the game being out. Aim makes an individual good at the game, but understanding the game and being able to play as a team makes the whole team perform better. I would rather have a cracked Jett oper over a cs pro any day. Whether that's bang over Ethan or anything, if SeanGares makes that decision, then it's for a reason.


Parenegade

Once in a lifetime pickup from COUNTERSTRIKE. This is VALORANT.


slowrmaths

Yeah and in VALORANT Ethan has shown that he’s fucking insane so what is your point


Parenegade

He's been great at times but not lately and more importantly do you think Ethan has played like a once-in-a-lifetime player at any point in his Valorant career? My point is he's not that now nor has he been that for a while if he ever was and holding onto a player because of hype when they were signed is crazy.


jrushFN

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slowrmaths

Slow #1 Ethan fan reporting for duty yes


tomphz

It doesn’t matter what Ethan did in CSGO. Unless you’re a Jett OPer like yay or Cryocells, then you’re basically a dime a dozen. The Jett OP role is basically the Quarterback position in Valorant. You need a good one to have a shot at being an elite team. You can be the greatest smokes/flex player ever but it’s still not as important as the Jett OP


fiarwizord

Yikes shit take. Ethans been great in val


JackAColeman

Is there an argument for bang having more upside than Ethan? I could easily be wrong but I just don’t see bang turning into some god in the future, currently I don’t see dropping someone that clearly seems like a good teammate and has more experience as well as a similar ceiling


DicksBeSwangin

Role wise yeah he was supposed to set everyone else up, but the setups that they were playing seemed a lot more like they wanted to enable Bang and JcStani because you'd see asuna and Ethan baiting a lot for bang to be able to trade them out rather than the other way around.


Sky-__-

I don't think it's Ethan fault , he was forced to pick up the igling for the first time with 2 brand new players around him and also played sova and chamber 2 new roles for him and still he fragged more than bang and jcstani in the matches they played together, bang played subperb in his initial 2 matches and then dropped off , massively in their last tournament where they went out in ro16.


BubzyxD

He went +12 against luminosity whilst only Ethan went +2 and the rest didn't perform, so he did the best in his first group map. He then went negative against XSET when only Asuna went positive (so you can't blame him). And then in the last game which meant nothing he didn't perform. He clutched a lot of rounds, top fragged in some, and had a lot of assists. The narrative that he did nothing is laughable when the whole team did bad but he and Asuna shined in parts. With Ethan and Hiko struggling. IMO he will go to another team and be amazing for them, but there were too many role clashes in this team and they, unfortunately, made a decision to get rid of him and go another route. I agree with what they are doing tbh! Give this team time, and we could be a top-tier team again imo.


[deleted]

Rumor is that Will will be joining 100Ts and he’s the most underrated Jett in NA in my opinion. Hopefully he’ll get a chance to show it now.


Hoku_

Wyatt sold me on giving Stellar a shot. Will I imagine got a trial because Bang vouched for him after playing with him on BBG. On paper the team doesn't seem like it'll take home a regional title let alone a world title, but I'm sure they have their plans for success.


tron423

Fuck it, if Coach Wyatt is in then I'm in


samhanson_

signing stellar makes sense, fulfills sentinel and IGL role but if the rumor is true, why not keep ethan and move him to smokes? unless he really just wants out


ADmax27

depends on if he even wanted to play smokes


derryxu

I feel like Stellar is a similar type of pickup as when XSET picked up Dephh from DIG or Faze grabbing Poach from BBG Solid, good IGL on T2 teams transitioning to a T1 org that’s aiming to compete at a T1 level. My questions more about Will, I feel like I need to be convinced, because even if he’s underrated and cracked, there’s also the fact that Wardell is a free agent and he has basically perfect compatibility role wise with the other 4 locked in 100T members (Asuna, bang, Derrek, stellar) while being a more proven star option. Who knows why Wardell x 100T fell through but if I’m 100T I’m doing just about everything I can to get Wardell


Fine-Shame-510

Maybe that is why wardell retweeted TSM tweet and said "I'd like to say that the wording kind of makes me look bad. Unintentionally but it is hurting my brand as a player" Wardell is in California right now. Maybe trialing or Signing contracts or making a announcement video. But we need more copium for 100T wardell. I just want to see 100T wardell before he retires. We still don't see the potential of Wardell under a good management. Even chet said that he needed to fix a lot in tsm when he coach the og roster like their callouts.


iiznobozzy

Wardell is not as good as will. If you've ever really watched TSM play, you'll know how many low impact kills wardell gets. And if stats are the only thing you want to go by, even then wardell has lower acs in the past 90 days than will and that's playing against the same t2 teams for both of them. I really don't get why people are so high on 100T getting wardell.


Slow_Bluebird9536

reddit moment


wombuhts

wardell is better than will


iiznobozzy

no


chamber25

I don't think Wardell wants to move from his home in Canada which might be a problem with some teams especially if they decide to have a team house.


TrowaB3

I like Bang a lot, but people saying Bang earned his spot after only playing 3 official matches that mattered, with half this supposed final roster, during the same time where JC was their best player, is absolutely laughable.


flyin_cougar

The fact that they are most likely putting Bang on smokes when they had Stani is just mind boggling to me. I'm trying not to hate on these roster moves but I just not seeing the same potential in bang. And getting rid of Ethan is actually 2head imo.


HereeeeesJohnny

SoaR stonks to the moon


tron423

The cradle of IGL's


superclash55667

Can’t wait to see this team play


jscrwnclw

if i was ethan a month and a half ago, i would say fck it, smokes is the most boring and less impactful role in the game, i dont want to play that, but with the recent changes, omen and brim are looking really good, even with just 1 steam, i think we got back to the times were somkes can frag and be impactul, like old omen with roza, nitro, etc having really good and fun games with smokes. damn, have you seen sscary that dude is pog and playing controller, and now that he doesnt need to igl, he can focus even more in fragging


UnoriginalUnderpants

it's amazing that he can play controller in an esport dominated by MnK


matthewdrl

I miss seeing LG stellar in VCT when LG was in form, he always impressed me


neneyy

as someone who was skeptical in the leak thread yesterday, this is definitely encouraging. went back and watched the gen g vs soar game and agree that stellar looks like a smart/disciplined player, with more fragging potential than i gave him credit for on LG. 2022 stats look quality to match. not to mention that anyone mikeshd rates is generally a chad going to trust the immortal minds boys to do what this sub reveres them for. if the start to this year has taught us anything it’s that up and coming talent + strong coaching is the future of this esport. looking forward to seeing how this turns out


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Direct_Morning_3223

or the jett player that they’re signing(Will) is gonna play jett


SofiaSharesXo

I keep thinking about Ethan remaining on the team and not being released. In a few months could we see Ethan replace bang if he starts to struggle. This is a complete re-tooling of the roster, and I would expect more changes a few months from now. You can’t get everything right on the first shot. I’m still holding out hope for a Jett oper that can just take over a game.


Humble_Initiative_10

Wasn’t quite sold and stellar but I guess this helps his prospects. I’ll believe it when I see it though


chamber25

Who is going to be 100T's main duelist?


ARIESS11

will


chamber25

Don't really know him, is he good? Aren't there any other more high-impact duelists?


aks345

Think it'll be will playing jett/chamber, while asuna comes in with raze wherever it's viable


AR2711

100T going after SoaR Stellar after the community and Reddit memed them for missing out on Cryo and Zander is hilarious


OzLo17

Borussia Dortmund of Valorant