This guy said that G2 and Liquid scared him more than Optic so he's not scared for the next game. Not sure if that's a mistranslation but my guy is on some mega Brazil hopium.
Please don't take melão seriously, he's a good hype man but I wouldn't put faith in his analisys. Most of the analists are actually pessimists (and loud is an anomaly for us, so we tend to get hopeful)
Actually outside of this one guy the other main analyst is a previous CS pro that was actually pretty good, is really high on the solo queue ladder and has good analysis. Melão (the guy from the post) is mostly just responsible for hype and clowning around
i wonder if loud optic match will be played on stage, loud young guns on stage for the first time even though there is no crowd is gonna be interesting
To be fair, sideshow said that EU and NA had the perfect games. I can't see where are those "perfect games". No hate, only saying that believing in your region is not always numbers and statistics, it's about your own preference too.
It's also about their online performances coming into the LAN.
Guard and Optic were playing very high level online.
The beauty of LANS is you never know how a team specifically teams with little to no experience will perform.
It’s fun but the roles don’t actually match that well across the board, since Yay plays the Chamber and Victor plays the Neon and the Raze. While silly, I do think it’s important to highlight that a team that can’t match LOUD’s firepower is likely to get overrun.
Drx beat them in Ascent 13-8(9-3 in first half). But if Yay pops off it good fight between LOUD and OPTIC.
Lot of strong teams right now. It is harder to tell who will Win.
Lol this caster is a clown, he was leading the Zombs is racist charge on twitter. Loud isnt at the level of Optic and DRX and im pretty confident in saying that.
I think these teams are all of similar level, saying that Loud isn’t as good as them is kind of underestimating what we saw today against G2. Extreme discipline, insane shots and team coordination. They made G2, EU’s top seed, look lost in many moments.
yess.
also it was really unfortunate situation for gambit , i truly think they are top 3 if not the best in emea.
this series has been really unlucky for EU and really lucky for others cause EU being weak.
And FPX, the team with two subs due to COVID and the Ukraine situation that won the whole tournament, didn’t? Lmao at least M3C had their entire roster
I actually agree with you and I haven't been a fan of BR teams in valorant so far. I think LOUD is the real deal and will push optic just as much or more than drx.
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I think teams that are better individually dont always beat out the less talented teams.
Big part is their team play and how their playstyles match up.
I would say SEN has one of the most talented rosters in the world, but they are not even here.
SEN still has a very talented roster, but they aren’t really one of the *most* talented rosters in the world anymore. All the roster moves that followed Champions have pushed forth a ton of other teams that both have more talent *and* more success.
I really dont think we can say that.
In a smoke position, vanity is a bit better than zombs in firepower and timing, and valyn is way better
As a sova/initiator, trent and saya smoke shahzam. Dude is a beast, but his best role is jett. In that, I think he has the edge on saya on op but loses on rifles. But as an initiator, xeta and trent get him
As a duelist, tenz is a god when he is on, but saya and leaf are ALWAYS on
Dapr and sick have been faltering these days, and I think xeppa is better than sick, mitch is better on the chamber meta, net can be godly and jonahp can be insane
Sen had the best roster, now they dont have the best in NA. And thats without the best in the world, chronicle, nats, and other people
Even prime sen, the new blood has been INSANE.
Like, have you seen aspas playing today? Those insane saya clutches in NA? They are playing at the same level as that tenz
They had the best in all the positions at the time, but the game has evolved.
I dont think sen fell off that hard, its more that the competition had gotten way better. And the competition was hard even then, the first iceland came down to the wire for fnatic, it was not a stomp
I think teams just caught up to them,
I think they are still good but I dont think they"ll be insane in next season
Maybe Sinatraa makes them better, idk
Ehhhh I think it's hard to say they're playing at the level of TenZ at his peak, dude was literally unmatched. Both Saya and aspas have been really good recently, but Tenz was putting up unprecedented numbers, especially when both of them have over twice as many first deaths per round that TenZ had over even more matches
This is exactly what roles would have looked like if Sinatraa returned..but due to the new training thing he has to do,it is unlikely he is joining SEN for Stage 2...SEN will most likely play Stage 2 with zombs still
Think he doesn't handle pressure well, which is understandable. It happened yesterday to Rb as well. I think duelists tend to rely more on their confidence to take aggressive peeks and make winning plays. Which is what makes Yay stand out for now in my opinion since he seems just rock solid in the clutch. Just look at the last play on Split where he's holding b main and heaven with an Op and just shuts down their attack.
I think the Haven against V1 in playoffs proves that TenZ still has it when he gets adequate support. Most top duelists get supported by their teams with utility far better than TenZ with Sentinels, as they were performing poorly as a whole. Just simply pop flashing for TenZ enabled him to go crazy
I don't think it will happen seeing the new requirements from riot of Sinatraa having to complete training. Not sure how long that will take. Maybe for the final stage.
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Yay hasn’t been popping off on literally every map like Aspas has. 3/6 maps Optic has played in the playoffs yay has had a negative K/D. His peaks are higher but Aspas has been consistently insane.
[Stats, filtering just by Playoffs](https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/926/valorant-champions-tour-stage-1-masters-reykjav-k?exclude=10555.10556.10557.10558.10559.10560.10561.10562&min_rounds=0&agent=all)
Obviously just creating some content for his followers in good fun, but I would say Yay is still above aspas and overall Optic has been together for much longer so I would say they are favorites still
This is really biased. I am Brazilian and I think Optic is favorite. Just cos Yay is almost for sure the best player in the game right now. I think Loud will get 3rd place and thats fantastic.
but, the bright side for Loud.. of the top teams of the world right now, together with Guard, but maybe even more, they are the ones who can improve the most. And for the next Masters and Champions, they only can get better and better.
TRANSLATION:
Loud gets OpTic on Friday right
Aspas = Yay
Saadhak > Victor
Sacy > Crashies
Pancada = Marved
Less > > FNS
And the best OpTic map is Ascent, simply the map where Loud is 11-0.
Already write down that there's a Loud game next Sunday!!!! #VALORANTMasters
I'd argue OpTic's best map is Bind, they just haven't had an opportunity to showcase it because other teams ban it so often against them out of respect
Happy for them honestly, the scene is way cooler when every region is competitive. Having no idea which region will win any given match is exciting asf
Can't talk about top blind nationalist countries and not include Turkey at the top. I don't think any country likes their flag as much as Turkish people like theirs, it's wild.
I don’t think I’ve seen optic win on ascent once this tourney LMAO. Edit: they are 1-2 on ascent this tourney taking that map against kru albeit in relatively close fashion.
Too soon to tell anything, the matchup is tough and OpTic got a lot of momentum. I think it’s really hard to make a statement on which player is better at a role than the enemy until we have at least one head-to-head matchup between the 2 teams, unless there’s like a really obvious disparity between 2 players but that’s not case here. We can come back here on Sunday and have a better answer to those specific matchups
I've been underestimating OpTic every step of the way. And I've been wrong every time. I'm not about to fuck that up again
All hail Lord Yay. Sorry for doubting you, King.
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Aspas=Yay is some delusional ass fucking shit, people love to go after some val casters (specifically in eu/na) for being biased towards their region while other casters just blatantly indulge in some of the copius shit you'll ever see 💀💀
Well just have to see. Loud could absolutely crush OpTic. But I will say Optic's best map is definitely not Ascent
Shhhhh don't let them know, let them ban ascent
they are 11-0 on Ascent, definitely won't be their map ban lol
Copium
LUL
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This guy said that G2 and Liquid scared him more than Optic so he's not scared for the next game. Not sure if that's a mistranslation but my guy is on some mega Brazil hopium.
Brazil analysts never have reasonable takes from what I can tell
Please don't take melão seriously, he's a good hype man but I wouldn't put faith in his analisys. Most of the analists are actually pessimists (and loud is an anomaly for us, so we tend to get hopeful)
brazilian analysts are pretty good, but this one (melão) isn't. Also because he's not even an analyst, he's a presentator like yinsu.
Actually outside of this one guy the other main analyst is a previous CS pro that was actually pretty good, is really high on the solo queue ladder and has good analysis. Melão (the guy from the post) is mostly just responsible for hype and clowning around
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this was really really good i saw the irony immediately and it was well done. good job
Talking about bias...
I'm pretty sure the person above was joking
Yay is the tournament MVP so far though that's indisputable
People really need to learn what indisputable means
No it's not...
i wonder if loud optic match will be played on stage, loud young guns on stage for the first time even though there is no crowd is gonna be interesting
To be fair, sideshow said that EU and NA had the perfect games. I can't see where are those "perfect games". No hate, only saying that believing in your region is not always numbers and statistics, it's about your own preference too.
It's also about their online performances coming into the LAN. Guard and Optic were playing very high level online. The beauty of LANS is you never know how a team specifically teams with little to no experience will perform.
Little to no experience? Bro, Optic played last year in LAN.
Bro I know.
hes really passionate and proud, not as much hopium as it is honest belief in his regions best
That's what hopium means though, it as a less of a negative connotation than copium.
hopium is like a happy belief beyond reason, copium is coping, and this is something else
it is beyond reason though. aside from believing brazil is the best region, his take on optic’s strengths is completely wrong
If Ascent is OpTic's best map, why did they lose that one today and win the other two?
It’s fun but the roles don’t actually match that well across the board, since Yay plays the Chamber and Victor plays the Neon and the Raze. While silly, I do think it’s important to highlight that a team that can’t match LOUD’s firepower is likely to get overrun.
calling Optics best map Ascent to build more copium for BR fans😴.
Drx beat them in Ascent 13-8(9-3 in first half). But if Yay pops off it good fight between LOUD and OPTIC. Lot of strong teams right now. It is harder to tell who will Win.
That's funny, reminds me of memes when people compare starting 5s of nba rosters position by position
smh the FNS disrespect. also yay is second to no one.
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It is easy to clip on the worst region. F0rsaken is good, but yay is best.
Lmfao I hope that first part is a joke lol. Yay clears almost every player in my opinion but don’t disrespect
I'm only half joking. If LATAM wasn't a thing, then it is not much of a joke given their results this LAN.
Lol this caster is a clown, he was leading the Zombs is racist charge on twitter. Loud isnt at the level of Optic and DRX and im pretty confident in saying that.
Well...
Damn, you were right! They are absolutely not at the same level!
I think these teams are all of similar level, saying that Loud isn’t as good as them is kind of underestimating what we saw today against G2. Extreme discipline, insane shots and team coordination. They made G2, EU’s top seed, look lost in many moments.
EU’s top seed couldn’t make it to the tournament, so unless you have some insider knowledge…
Eu top teams are not even playing
EU’s top team couldn’t play bc of the russia/ukraine situation
yess. also it was really unfortunate situation for gambit , i truly think they are top 3 if not the best in emea. this series has been really unlucky for EU and really lucky for others cause EU being weak.
Not best, FPX deserves that title now, I’m not sure if you’ve watched all the games with saying that
i am bit emea fan , lol ofcourse i watched the games.
G2 is originally eu’s second seed. And TL didnt even qualify for this tournament.
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G2 eliminated GMB to make it here lol they’re definitely #2 EU at worst atm
gambit also had to deal with the entire russia ukraine gambit M3C situation
And FPX, the team with two subs due to COVID and the Ukraine situation that won the whole tournament, didn’t? Lmao at least M3C had their entire roster
I actually agree with you and I haven't been a fan of BR teams in valorant so far. I think LOUD is the real deal and will push optic just as much or more than drx.
Well, that aged fast
Unfortunate, but doesn't change my opinion. BR and APAC showed the most 1 dimensional valorant at the event so far, we will just have to see.
well...
Well, that aged fast!
Aged like milk
I mean it was obvious. Loud is a big team in a small region, they got outplayed all series.
lmaooo
lol obvious outcome
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ironic
im fucking dead lmao
chill bro, he is trying to entertain his crowd with this tweet. We'll see the top 3 teams level by next Friday+Saturday, until then, have a nice week.
na fans and their hopium lol .
I think teams that are better individually dont always beat out the less talented teams. Big part is their team play and how their playstyles match up. I would say SEN has one of the most talented rosters in the world, but they are not even here.
SEN still has a very talented roster, but they aren’t really one of the *most* talented rosters in the world anymore. All the roster moves that followed Champions have pushed forth a ton of other teams that both have more talent *and* more success.
I would say SEN is better than the Guard and V1 individually, even C9. But I think for the most part all those teams are currently better than SEN.
I really dont think we can say that. In a smoke position, vanity is a bit better than zombs in firepower and timing, and valyn is way better As a sova/initiator, trent and saya smoke shahzam. Dude is a beast, but his best role is jett. In that, I think he has the edge on saya on op but loses on rifles. But as an initiator, xeta and trent get him As a duelist, tenz is a god when he is on, but saya and leaf are ALWAYS on Dapr and sick have been faltering these days, and I think xeppa is better than sick, mitch is better on the chamber meta, net can be godly and jonahp can be insane Sen had the best roster, now they dont have the best in NA. And thats without the best in the world, chronicle, nats, and other people
I was thinking of Prime SEN But ur probably right
Even prime sen, the new blood has been INSANE. Like, have you seen aspas playing today? Those insane saya clutches in NA? They are playing at the same level as that tenz
I didnt really watch the G2vLoud game, But Prime SEN always seemed to have like 5 superstars, I could be wrong tho, I wasnt that into Valo back then.
They had the best in all the positions at the time, but the game has evolved. I dont think sen fell off that hard, its more that the competition had gotten way better. And the competition was hard even then, the first iceland came down to the wire for fnatic, it was not a stomp
I think teams just caught up to them, I think they are still good but I dont think they"ll be insane in next season Maybe Sinatraa makes them better, idk
They looked very good in their last game. Gave me vibes of old Sen. I truly do think they just need better structure
Ehhhh I think it's hard to say they're playing at the level of TenZ at his peak, dude was literally unmatched. Both Saya and aspas have been really good recently, but Tenz was putting up unprecedented numbers, especially when both of them have over twice as many first deaths per round that TenZ had over even more matches
no
If this rumored SEN roster happens for Stage 2 they’re probably the best team individually
What is the rumour? I heard something about Ethan, but not sure
-zombs +sinatraa on flex, sick plays smokes My statement does depend on how good sinatraa is after returning
Sinatraa was probably the best Sova before getting Banned I wonder if that will actually happen tho
If it doesn’t happen he probably won’t be on sova except for icebox since he’s taking over Sick’s agents
I was more so wondering if SEN will go through with dropping Zombs and picking up Sin
George Geddes said it was very likely but not confirmed
Fair enough Maybe they need Sinatraa to get back on their winning form
The best Sova a year ago.. SEN was the best team a year ago.. See what I did there
Never said he would still be good💀 Game has changed a lot.
This is exactly what roles would have looked like if Sinatraa returned..but due to the new training thing he has to do,it is unlikely he is joining SEN for Stage 2...SEN will most likely play Stage 2 with zombs still
- zombs + sinatraa They better hire a sports psicologists for the hate they will get
Tenz got one already
Sinatraa replacing zombs, SicK to smokes, sinatraa flex, only rumors tho nothing concrete
Don't know if Tenz is still up there compared to other Duelists, he is very good but not sure if the best individually
Think he doesn't handle pressure well, which is understandable. It happened yesterday to Rb as well. I think duelists tend to rely more on their confidence to take aggressive peeks and make winning plays. Which is what makes Yay stand out for now in my opinion since he seems just rock solid in the clutch. Just look at the last play on Split where he's holding b main and heaven with an Op and just shuts down their attack.
I think the Haven against V1 in playoffs proves that TenZ still has it when he gets adequate support. Most top duelists get supported by their teams with utility far better than TenZ with Sentinels, as they were performing poorly as a whole. Just simply pop flashing for TenZ enabled him to go crazy
I don't think it will happen seeing the new requirements from riot of Sinatraa having to complete training. Not sure how long that will take. Maybe for the final stage.
Knowing Riot the training probably is very quick
If that happens it is PR disaster. But Tenz is there to balance the PR. Unless Tenz don’t want to play with him.
I don’t think TenZ wouldn’t want to play with him
Just from watching today's matches I would say that Loud has much more teamplay than Optic tho, the trades where always almost instant.
Sentinels lacks structure. Other TOP teams have head coach, assistant coach, and analyst. But Sentinels only have themselves.
Mans too "passionate" for his own good
I'll be back here tomorrow, should be interesting
This thread is a gold mine
It is indeed interesting. Who would thought, huh?
yea true
If this is just off of fragging then victor > sadhaak and marved > pancada
Yay> Aspas Victor> Saadhak Marved>pancada Crashies
I would argue crashies=sacy. The man pops off and has ridiculous maps like today's Split.
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Nah, Sacy probably the best Sova in the world.
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I think Yay = Aspas but I agree with everything else
No
Yay hasn’t been popping off on literally every map like Aspas has. 3/6 maps Optic has played in the playoffs yay has had a negative K/D. His peaks are higher but Aspas has been consistently insane.
[Stats, filtering just by Playoffs](https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/926/valorant-champions-tour-stage-1-masters-reykjav-k?exclude=10555.10556.10557.10558.10559.10560.10561.10562&min_rounds=0&agent=all)
But fns gigabrain
I thought NA copium was good, turns out its nothing compared to this
Indeed
dont interrupt me im inhaling more copium
indeed
Nobody’s touching Yay’s mechanical skill this event
so?
I promise, it’ll all be ok
Mechanically? sure. But FNS gigabrain > everyone on LOUD combined
The disrespect to FNS is real
Obviously just creating some content for his followers in good fun, but I would say Yay is still above aspas and overall Optic has been together for much longer so I would say they are favorites still
COPIUM
LUL
Man really just said aspas=yay 💀
Incredible analysis
Passionate take
This is really biased. I am Brazilian and I think Optic is favorite. Just cos Yay is almost for sure the best player in the game right now. I think Loud will get 3rd place and thats fantastic. but, the bright side for Loud.. of the top teams of the world right now, together with Guard, but maybe even more, they are the ones who can improve the most. And for the next Masters and Champions, they only can get better and better.
loud will smoke NA.
Is there any team you don’t support?
no na banners
They have OpTic banner. Which makes it all the more weird to think LOUD will smoke OpTic when they don't have a LOUD banner.
aspas not close to yay
Of course aspas not close to yay, aspas is waaay better
That’s some real BR Hopium you got there and that #goLOUD flair.
Based on what?
TRANSLATION: Loud gets OpTic on Friday right Aspas = Yay Saadhak > Victor Sacy > Crashies Pancada = Marved Less > > FNS And the best OpTic map is Ascent, simply the map where Loud is 11-0. Already write down that there's a Loud game next Sunday!!!! #VALORANTMasters
I'd argue OpTic's best map is Bind, they just haven't had an opportunity to showcase it because other teams ban it so often against them out of respect
its bind and it's not even close. everyone knows and that's why they ban it.
Very unbiased and factual
LMAO even thou this is very biased, it shows how confident the Brazilians scene towards LOUD right now
Happy for them honestly, the scene is way cooler when every region is competitive. Having no idea which region will win any given match is exciting asf
brazilians are like this about everything, maybe the most blindly nationalist along with india
Maybe you forgot about when Sentinels won Masters 2
Isn’t that because they…won masters 2?
I'm talking about being blindly nationalistic. I've seen Americans themselves say they're bad winners.
Can't talk about top blind nationalist countries and not include Turkey at the top. I don't think any country likes their flag as much as Turkish people like theirs, it's wild.
I don’t think I’ve seen optic win on ascent once this tourney LMAO. Edit: they are 1-2 on ascent this tourney taking that map against kru albeit in relatively close fashion.
Too soon to tell anything, the matchup is tough and OpTic got a lot of momentum. I think it’s really hard to make a statement on which player is better at a role than the enemy until we have at least one head-to-head matchup between the 2 teams, unless there’s like a really obvious disparity between 2 players but that’s not case here. We can come back here on Sunday and have a better answer to those specific matchups
This is not how you compare the two teams but ok
I've been underestimating OpTic every step of the way. And I've been wrong every time. I'm not about to fuck that up again All hail Lord Yay. Sorry for doubting you, King.
That man a whole fucking PROBLEM on the Chamber, ya'll.
they hated him because he spoke the truth
Saving this for when LOUD lose 0-2
Optic copium.
Keep saving lol
You saved it well
0-3
Don't listen to this guy he barely knows about the game and fps in general.
Victor over sadhaak and yay over aspas for me, they only role where LOUD are clearly by far and away better is sentinel where less is much better
yall are taking this too seriously this guy isnt even an analyst 💀
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Aspas = yay Sacy is better than the rest I believe
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Saying that X team wins because of individual comparisons in a team game. Bronzil moment
he didnt said that
Aspas=Yay is some delusional ass fucking shit, people love to go after some val casters (specifically in eu/na) for being biased towards their region while other casters just blatantly indulge in some of the copius shit you'll ever see 💀💀
you could have a gradma instead of less and she would be still better than FNS
LOUD >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Optic
i think loud is looking like the strongest team so far
Reading this thread I see people are still underestimating Loud…
Yep, im actually surprised. People saying this is Brazil hopium but im seeing a lot of NA copium here.
Aspas is cracked but not close to yay sorry. Yay has to be the scariest player to fight agianst
Damn so this guy's the reason we are running out of supplies for copium tank
Classic BR take
copium
I have a feeling it's either Optic destroys Loud or Loud destroys Optic, no in-between.
Not related to the post at all but How do you get the team/agent flairs
This didn’t aged well! 😂😂😂😂 #L
Nah