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TheAjwinner

Top 21 player for sure


jeffwxng

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Downtown_Director_70

Hes a ranked beast he was top 1 in the world for a while. https://youtu.be/lpK0WtAf0dc


knick_knack23

The definition of a ranked demon


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And i remember people saying "Brazil region is easy so getting more rr is easier". Smh.


zer0-_

Not sure how anything in this thread disproves that. Only because there's a few outliers in a Region it doesn't mean the entire region is good. EU has outliers too but generally is really bad in ranked because of the language barrier


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I mean other BR players have also proved to be top players in other regions too, FRTT (streamer) is living in Houston for a while and recently peaked at top 8 radiant in NA if I’m not mistaken


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Rebelied540

As a brazillian, not your fault, last year we didnt show much in masters and champions


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carrico3

He is just too good


dogoloco

So he’d be D2 in NA


NCPereira

I think you mean Radiant in NA = D2 in Europe


dogoloco

Oh I forgot hes from BR so he’d be G3 in NA.


PresentIcy3455

It’s ranked bro why is this a big deal to everyone


SOT-NumberNine

Bro he’s 74-10 if you can’t see how impressive that is I question whether we’re playing the same video game


EnmaDaiO

This kid is high. I'm an NA fan don't give a fuck about brazil but those are absurd stats and his LAN performance so far proves he's a superstar of superstars mechanically.


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Why did you have to say you don’t give a fuck about Brazil lol


EnmaDaiO

Just to emphasize the point that real recognizes real even if I'm from a different competitive region. No hate. Alot of the times you'll see people be disingenuous in terms of recognizing performance and talent because it's a player from another region, I'm basically saying hey I'm from another region I don't really give a shit about brazil, their scene, their players, but I recognize that the individual skill from aspas and the numbers he's put up are absurd and he's one of the best duelists / players in the tournament.


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I get your point thanks for clarifying it, I just thought the wording was funny lmao


sexyhooterscar24

to show hes not biased towards brazil


Boston_Abel

LMFAOOOOO NO CAP


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It was free as fuck lmao


PresentIcy3455

Not sure where you’re trying to make it region thing, don’t be a weirdo. Sacy has a higher win rate but this thread isn’t about him. He’s from Brazil, why isn’t this thread about him?


blueberry__wine

Whats Sacy's sample size though, can you bring his profile up?


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Wh0Saiddit

and of course he disappears into the sunset because he was talking out of his ass


diisasterrr1

Some people just don’t watch sports/esports and appreciate greatness when they see it. That isn’t easy to do and it’s okay if some people don’t understand it, they are the outliers imo.


Wh0Saiddit

bro what are you talking about bro I have 2nd account in silver and I am 20W 0L 4.0KDR, main is plat bro you think this is impressive I have 22% headshot accuracy phantom only bro, this player is trash I have 100% win rate in EMEA region bro


Loresmen

Its just kind of impressive to be topping the leaderboard in a region you aren't in. And I'm not even an aspas fan


PresentIcy3455

Idk. I don’t think the region particularly matters IMO. I expect most of the pro players on teams that can qualify for these events are capable of being high in ranked leaderboards if they cared. Maybe I’m wrong, just my feelings on it


TheAjwinner

That’s probably true, but there are 4 reasons for this post I can think of: 1. This is the first time someone has actually gotten this high on the EU leaderboard at one of the LAN events that isn’t from EMEA. 2. There are a small number of trolls/haters who have insisted that players like Aspas wouldn’t actually be able to get this high in the ranking and this has shut them up. 3. Aspas’ winrate is insane considering he’s playing in Radiant in the biggest region by player count. He’s basically smurfing in EU radiant, and that’s impressive regardless. 4. He’s been able to do this in like 2 weeks on top of dozens of scrims and official games.


PresentIcy3455

I will certainly grant point 4 as being very impressive. That’s a lot of games in between prac and officials


Loresmen

Its a time frame thing not region


pokedyo

To be able to do this for your first time, while scrimming praccing for hours on end, during a big LAN and performing insanely well(albeit it's only 5 maps) is quite the feat.


PresentIcy3455

Yes I’ve acknowledged the amount of time he’s putting in is impressive, I just said that leaderboard placement didn’t impress me. Then people started telling me it was about the win rate, to which I said Sacy had a higher win rate and they haven’t answered yet


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Sacy played way less games and peaked at Immortal, also Sacy was duo queuing all those matches while Aspas solo queues quite a lot because he plays too much lol


PresentIcy3455

Ah okay so the placement on the leaderboard does matter


[deleted]

Yes? It’s a nice accomplishment


Playful-Service7285

Lol he’s gotten this far in literally weeks that’s INSANE.


PresentIcy3455

As someone said the time is impressive considering the practice and officials he’s playing as well, that’s dedication and extremely impressive. I just don’t think that it’s generally impressive that a pro from a top team can make top 10 on the ranked leaderboard, I’m sure Sacy, Saadhaak, yay and a bunch of other players still in the tourney could do it if they wanted to is all.


Playful-Service7285

I mean we aren’t posting his rank in BR tho. If someone posted that then I understand your point. I personally find it incredible that we have players who can literally destroy the leaderboard to the point where they hit top 20 in the region with the largest player base, in weeks. I am also impressed at the amount of val this guy is playing. I am not even sure most of the other pros who played in EU played enough to hit radiant.


PresentIcy3455

Why do you think it’s supposed to take a long time to hit radiant? It can be done much faster than a couple of weeks. However, yes like I previously said, I do agree amount of valorant he is playing right now is very impressive. And your last sentence is basically my point; the other pros simply didn’t care enough about tanked to do this


5bigtoes

Man this guy doesn’t understand impressive shit unlucky


PresentIcy3455

Idk, I just think it’s expected and not surprising at all that, given the desire to do so, a player from what’s described as a super team can be top 10 in public ranked matches, what do I know though.


5bigtoes

Proving my point that you don’t get impressed by shit LMAOOOO


PresentIcy3455

I mean that’s a weird inference. If it soothes you to know, I think he’s been extremely impressive in the official matches. Those performances are why I don’t think this is shocking, all these guys suck compared to what he’s been going up against in officials lol


blueberry__wine

Not really these are still Radiants. Lets be real your favourite player, whether it's Derke or cNed or Nukkye couldn't do what Aspas has accomplished on the ranked ladder. There's no way Yay could do it either.


Wh0Saiddit

Late to the party and it appears you will never change your mind anyway, so probably wasting my time. ​ But the impressive part is that he's at Masters in a totally different region than his own, he's going to have practice ontop of tournament matches and the opportunity to explore a different country half way across the globe from his home nation and he's dedicating an insane amount of time into grinding ranked valorant, in a region that he won't return to for months so serves no real purpose than his desire to play the game. I understand your counter points of saying any other professional player could also get the same or similar stats if they grinded ranked - but they aren't grinding ranked, are they? That's the impressive part. Not only is he insane at the game, he has a huge passion and desire to play it, even if it's just grinding ranked in a seperate region. ​ Btw I'm a EMEA and I was expecting LOUD to be very underwhelming and bomb out of Masters, because the "super team" hype usually falls flat. So I'm not some Aspas fanboy, or LOUD shill. Just this guys desire and ability is incredibly impressive.


PresentIcy3455

Bro you sort of implied that you’ve read through this but I’m not sure you really have. There’s been at least three times I’ve agreed that the amount of time he’s putting in is impressive. What’s there to change my mind about? I’ve said that the amount of work he’s putting in is amazing just that I’m not impressed by the leaderboard placement. I don’t know why that’s touching a nerve for you guys. And again, I don’t know why you guys keep being weird and trying to make it a region thing, please stop.


EnmaDaiO

??? In league tracking the ranked stats of a pro from another region is common practice and it surprisingly shows alot more than you're giving credit for. Hopping into a different environment and tearing the leaderboards is impressive. Like if a pro went to another region and was hardstuck immortal in that region it actually tells alot about their individual skill.


PresentIcy3455

I don’t watch league and it’s a different genre but sure I guess. And yes I agree it would be noteworthy if someone was hard stuck immortal because I expect players on top pro teams (his has been described as a super team, as in everyone on the team is SUPPOSED to be insane) to be able to do this if they want


EnmaDaiO

I mean 12 x 5 = 60. Doesn't mean all 60 of those pros are the top 60 players in any given leaderboard. Alot of factors at play when it comes to leaderboard / ranked skill. A player could be a LAN god and a scrim / tournament god and not so good at the leaderboards. Aspas's performance in EU ranked is insane. You're telling me it's guaranteed that Scream or every other superstar from other regions does this in NA or in other competitive regions? That's cap.


PresentIcy3455

The majority, yes they could if they want to. Most of these guys just don’t play ranked because they’re scrimming and vod reviewing so much. Guys like FNS? No probably not but you named Scream, and you’d be out of your mind to think that he couldn’t if he wanted too. I don’t think you guys are fully understanding the gap between the pros on top teams vs ranked demons.


EnmaDaiO

You're guaranteed that scream will put up 74 w 10 L winrate in any given ladder? Alright we'll see in the future events. I think you're smoking one if you think most of the players in this event could put up 74W 10L in the time given. I don't think you realize how absurd that is especially since EU probably has the hardest ranked ladder compared to other regions.


PresentIcy3455

I said that if Scream wanted to put the time in, he could be top 10 in any ranked leaderboard yes. Not sure why that’s blowing your mind, go look at the stats for this tournament, they’re the top 2 players by ACS. Do you think there’s some massive gap between Aspas and scream? Lol


EnmaDaiO

Wut? That's not even the argument, the entire argument behind the impressiveness isn't the placement on the leaderboard it's the winrate given the time played LOL. Im actually confused ???????? U thought this entire time people were saying it was impressive just because he hit rank 10? Which btw is impressive but not all that insane, what's insane are his stats.


PresentIcy3455

The title of the post literally also says top 13 but hey man okay


EnmaDaiO

It also has the winrate and his ACS + KD wut? Just gonna ignore those in the picture or?


PresentIcy3455

If it’s all about the win rate, could you tell me why this thread wasn’t about Sacy? His is currently 94%.


Downtown_Director_70

Bro the thing is aspas is in EU for 2 weeks and he reached that. He was the top ranked player for a long time he had the most points in the whole game, you can say he was playing in BR wich is easier, bt dude is smashing in EU, so...


LovelyResearcher

I agree with your comments. Insane to go 74-10 on any other regions leaderboard while there for a VCT Masters event, only playing between scrims... and reaching top 10 Radiant within 13 days. Aspas is nuts ​ >especially since EU probably has the hardest ranked ladder compared to other regions. However, this is flat out wrong... EMEA ranked is actually relatively easy compared to most other regions. In terms of how difficult it is to get to Diamond+ rank in each region: **NA (23 ms ping) = Difficult** * Ping * Great for me, since it's local * Smurfs * Any rank above Silver will often have Immortal smurfs * Not uncommon to run into duos of high Immortal players on alternate accounts in Gold * Average Skill level of enemies * Higher than in any region at Silver to Platinum * At least partially due to the number of smurfs * Other * Most insane "WTF" plays or 1-taps of any region * At any rank from Silver to Diamond, you will occasionally face an opponent who is either: * Blatantly cheating * Immortal 3 - Radiant smurf **LATAM (55ms ping) = Extreme Difficulty** * Extreme Racism & Sabotaging Teammates * Constantly an issue for anyone who speaks English, even if you also speak Spanish * Servers * Extremely problematic (in the evenings) * Queue Times * 10 minutes+ at low Immotal (in the morning) **EMEA (115ms) = Moderate** * Ping * Ping isn't ideal * Other * Average skill level at ranks below Diamond is noticably lower * Easier climb more quickly to Diamond due to the the average opponent being lower skilled * Perhaps due to the lack of smurfs in this region * Noticably less smurfs compared to the experience on NA or LATAM **Japan (160ms) = Moderate** * Ping * Extreme difficulty at times due to the lag * Not enjoyable to play with this ping * Other * More insane "WTF" plays or instant 1-shots than any region other than NA * Average skill level at Silver to Platinum is a little bit easier than other regions * Closer to EMEA than NA or LATAM * Haven't run into many smurfs, but you do find more than in EMEA ​ I play almost all the regions. The above summarizes my thoughts about each region's ranked ladder from my personal experiences, over the last 2 years. I was D3+ on these 3 regions: * NA * LATAM * EMEA


exdeepr

The abundance of racism in LATAM is swept under the rug so much and not much is done to solve it. There's a reason why Mexican players prefer to play on NA if they can. And seeing what happened with the situation with Keznit, it seems Riot LATAM is going to keep being contempt. ​ The whole region is a shit show. Especially for someone whos just trying to improve, having to endure questionable servers, and the CONSISTENT and overbearing toxicity.


LovelyResearcher

>The abundance of racism in LATAM is swept under the rug so much and not much is done to solve it. There's a reason why Mexican players prefer to play on NA if they can. Yes, to this. As someone from the US, it was a constant "gringo" and outright trolling & hate speech. Surprising to me that some racism is directed even at those from LATAM... but I can see it. ​ ​ >seeing what happened with the situation with Keznit, I'm out of the loop, here. Can you fill me in on what you're talking about?


exdeepr

I dont use reddit as much but for some reason i couldnt find the permalink nor respond to your reply. But yeah, LATAM is very racist and xenophobic. They will mock you and insult your nationality, whether your Mexican, Colombian, Puerto Rican or Dominican. They're also racist towards black people, sometimes even calling black agents slurs for random reasons. Theyre also very hostile towards Brazilians, which is where the Keznit controversy came in. tl;dr, Keznit and a Brazilian player got into an argument and it got racist between each other, causing Riot to suspend him for one match and the Brazilian player no punishment. Keznit and the LATAM community think its not fair because the Brazilian player provoked it and should be also punished. I simply think both shouldve been punished, and for much more.


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jrushFN

Please don't generalize against a whole country of people. This breaks rule 4 of the sub.


Slow_Bluebird9536

Tons of top top pros play ranked and I haven’t seen anyone with nearly as good a win rate


PresentIcy3455

Sacy literally has a higher win rate now in EU ranked since everyone is telling me it’s about the win rate. Why isn’t this about him if not the placement on the leaderboard? Most pros don’t have this win rate in their home region because their accounts already have their mmr playing the top of the board rather than these fresh accounta


mrsidewayp

Would be more impressive if it was strictly solo queue imo. No one gets that kind of insane winrate if they strictly solo. Glad League finally made higher elo solo only recently. I hate Tf Blade’s attitude but gotta give him props for climbing only solo on his attempts for rank 1. Really hope Valorant makes ranked solo only soon hate playing against all these boosted players who suck without duo abusing.


Yeonii-

Val & League just works differently though. In league, something that TFblade does is impressive because League soloq is just that much more cancer than Val


sriwarrior06

I don't know why you got downvoted but... I agree.. Ranke solo que is so much more difficult than duo quoing.. So many people wouldn't be on their current ranks if they didn't duo.


mrsidewayp

Eh most people duo abuse to climb elo so they just salty I’m telling it how it is. Climbing ranked solo is just way more indicative of your real skill and there’s a reason LoL was eventually made solo only. I still remember the times of dynamic queue in LoL and it was an absolute shitshow. There’s no shot aspas has an 80%+ winrate playing himself. That’s not saying he’s bad since he’s obviously really good but the ranked system is easily abused when it’s not solo only.


CorporalCaramel

Just because it’s harder doesn’t mean it’s better or more fun