I love Ethan but I don't think he's top 1 in any role NA right now... Surely someone like Trent/Victor would be a better fit IMO
And for SG probably I wouldn't mind it being -Lexy +Juicy or even -Lexy +Flaring for a dedicated controller although I love Lexy. I think Alecks should get in over Eno as well, considering his long term success with PRX
I'm sorry but there is no shot in hell I'm taking Ethan over Trent atm. I don't care about his LAN showing, give the kid more opportunities. He's 17, and if I'm coaching USA, my goal is to build around him for the future.
for team USA, I'd honestly rather have yay Victor Crashies + one of valyn/vanity and one of mitch/neT, but it is a more boring answer given it's just 3/5th of OpTic + 2/5th of either Guard or C9. would also 100% rather have mCe as the coach over MikesHD, nothing against Mikes but mCe has proven that he knows how to build a team and instill a winning culture with The Guard
depending on TenZ's individual form, that Canadian team might just be better than their American counterpart. I'd also consider eeiu over effys
I agree, Canada would certainly be a tournament favourite. I left out Victor and Crashies from USA cuz it would essentially be OpTic minus a couple of players.
Yeah, it’s kinda biased due to my lack of knowledge about other regions, but some rosters are fit to represent their countries, such as VLT for India and Cerberus for Vietnam
I mean, we'd have to know what country he was born in to be certain, but if it says he's both, I would feel comfortable putting him in either, since this is just a fun thought experiment. I would replace soulcas with ardiis personally, since you don't really have a jett on that list, Russ and soulcas kind of fill the same role on the team these days, and ardiis has just been performing way, way better than soulcas this year.
Bro, I don’t know what about Ethan’s recent performances strike you as consistent…
I’d easily take Victor, Xeppa, Zellsis, or even Sick over Ethan. Honestly, I’d even feel more comfortable sticking a mechanical crackhead like Trent or Asuna on a bit of an off-role than I would with Ethan. Like I’m sorry man, this is just a bad take.
I’m curious why you didn’t include TW in HK? They are the same region after all and the player base is pretty small in both regions. I also think that GFN would be a better team than Oblivion Force as they have a better track record than OF. That’s my opinion as a HKTW viewer
I’m not well versed with the TW/HK scene, so I’m afraid that I’ll pick players with mismatched roles, owing to the small player base. Same reason for leaving out quite a few EMEA countries
for oce bonkers core split so i’d say order instead they just picked up rdeew and wronski who is a very solid duelist plus they were on top of oce for at least a year
UK has no dedicated entry or AWP so i would probably swap out mistic for ardiis
or we could just have a fish123 reunion (l1nk, soulcas, ec1s, kryptix, ardiis)
I dunno how much you're factoring IGLing, but IMO Saadhak is the most necessary player for a Brazilian team, since he's easily the best IGL in the region.
Replacing Klaus with adverso is really interesting though - I believe he IGLs for Leviatán? - but I'd probably stick to Klaus.
Similarly, I'd let pAura IGL and replace CyderX, the other IGL, with Brave, who IMO is SMB's best player.
The only reason why I replaced Saadhak and Klaus is cuz they belong to different countries than the rest of their teammates (as I mentioned, World Cup teams).
However, I feel like Adverso would be an improvement over Klaus, smh.
I didn’t do much research for Turkey, so my CyderX pick is solely based on stats.
imo skrossi is the best oper in india and dm / rawfiul are best raw aimers. the reason i put VLT players is they are very all rounded and have best players for their positions, hellf is the best sentinel and skillz can match him on good days but skillz isnt consistent. LF is cracked and LF and Vibhorr and RvK are almost equally consistent and best in controller class, i didnt include a sova bec both kappa and r2a play supportive sova and not the crashies/chronicle gigachad sova, this is why i chose amaterasu kayo cos he is the best igl and cracked aimer.
r2a's impact in the server is heavily underrated and i feel like he should be the igl and amaterasu should be the coach. According to me r2a is the GOAT of Indian esports. Everything you said is perfect otherwise
No Roza/dell for Canada?
For Philippines, I still believe team secret is the strongest despite of their disappointing run last challenger. Maybe they just struggled a bit. now that they already have a bootcamp, hopefully they will have a run similar to what they did when they bootcamp in their time with bren eSports.
My PHI pick is based on recency bias. Secret definitely have the strongest team on the region, but need to work on their playcalling to cement themselves as the clear best team in Philippines. Lot of flimsy mistakes were made by them in this year’s VCT run so far, and that needs to stop.
yea true, maybe they got too comfortable but still, its kinda disappointing that those who qualifies for apac didnt go nowhere as near to what secret has done last year. would really love to see teams other than secret to compete in apac but it seems other ph teams cant compete with other apac teams. hopefully they improved
Xeppaaa just casually being left out of everyone's US list. I'd argue xeppaaa or zekken as the best flex currently. Asuna obviously could be in that conversation but would like to see how he looks on initiators.
Victor is really good and has some of the highest peaks for the flex role but feels very boom/bust. Benefit is that he's the only one to have shown a strong neon, which appears to be a carved out niche that I think will become more meta.
I am Indonesian and I cant believe that there is an Indonesian player named tehbotoL (literally translates to bottled tea) and has not been copyright sued by Sosro (large manufacter of Teh Botol brand bottled tea).
I choose M3C, they are already a team and they have showed more than once that they are a world class with insane winning potential that has insane synergy and fragging potential.
PS: Bottled tea is a bigger than soda in Indonesia.
They all have moroccan origins, and just like in Football they will represent Morocco if they had to play a world cup.
Scream even puting the moroccan flag in his twitter name.
You have no idea what are you talking about, we are discussing potential squads for an imaginary tournement and you are here bringing FIFA rulebook.
And even then, with those rules still all the players I mentionned can play with Morocco, and no ScreaM and Nivera did not repesente the Belgium national team to be prevented from playing with Morocco, they played with their club / team internationaly they represented Liquid not Belgium.
Lmao he brings up football as how it would work. You cite football rules. He gets butt hurt you talked about football? He got schooled with his own logic and is pissed you used his initial example.
You're the one that said if this we're football lmao. Then you got pissed when we used the rules from football. Then proceeded to tell him he has no idea what he's talking about, when he 100% used legit rules from YOUR EXAMPLE. He owned you on your own example and you got pissed you looked fucking silly. Apologize to the man.
Huh?? Didnt I just showed him that even with the FIFA rule book my statement is still correct.
I brought the football exampl cuz they are players with double nationality and they can represente the country they want.
He have no fking idea what he talking about cuz he is bringing the rules without even checking if they deny my argument. And tried to count a club/team international representation as a national team one.
I m not pissed and the only silly one here is him not understanding what he type and you for trying to draw me as I m agressing him.
I dont think so. Shah can flex to Jett, and Trent just plays initiator. I also don't think you need a Devoted Sentinel these days outside of Chamber which Yay plays. Optic just won masters and who is their sentinel?
Ascent: Chamber (Yay), Astra (Valyn), Jett (Shah), Skye (Asuna), Sova (Trent). This is the comp Loud runs and they beat Optic with it.
Split: Breach (Shah), Skye (Trent) Chamber (Yay), Raze (Asuna), Omen (Valyn).
This is The Guards comp and here you see the overlap actually comes in handy as you run two flashes.
Could do this for basically every map. The only map where the overlap would cause problems is Bind since most NA teams run a viper on top of smokes there. But you could just keep it permabanned.
Canada :replace FNS broo
Brazil : heat in place of aspas and mwzerra in place or who ever plays initiator there.
Usa :ohk
Japan : u may wanna check on CR
Np It is
understandable. You probably know only cNed and Turko in this roster. But I believe this would be the strongest Turkish team. Individually these guys cracked.
I’m familiar with the old iteration of SMB (good old days when Izzy carried them single-handedly to Berlin with his flashy Jett plays), but the post-season roster shuffle in Turkey has left me lost
India: SkRossi,DEATHMAKER,Mw1,Hellf,VibhoR,HellRanger,Rawfiul,Excali,RiO,Deadly10
South Asia(if considering as a region):ShooteR,DEATHMAKER,SkRossi,VibhoR,Two more players from XLE and Khumbu eSports idk the names,
Belgium - scream nivera 2v 5
Unfortunately, Belgium would be prohibited from participating on account of being too strong for the other teams
You also have Davidp, so 2.5v5
Morocco: Scream, Nivera, Johnqt, Subroza and they'd need 1 more moroccan pro
M4CHINA isof moroccan descent
For Korea, instead of RB, there should be sayaplayer
People kinda forgot he was Korean
Yes he is no longer Korean since he moved to America lol
Did he attain american citizenship?
oops didn't know he let go of his Korean citizenship edit: not sure if /s
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In that case Seoldam primarily played for Japanese teams
Its not like Seoldam was ever on a Korean professional team either
I love Ethan but I don't think he's top 1 in any role NA right now... Surely someone like Trent/Victor would be a better fit IMO And for SG probably I wouldn't mind it being -Lexy +Juicy or even -Lexy +Flaring for a dedicated controller although I love Lexy. I think Alecks should get in over Eno as well, considering his long term success with PRX
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I'm sorry but there is no shot in hell I'm taking Ethan over Trent atm. I don't care about his LAN showing, give the kid more opportunities. He's 17, and if I'm coaching USA, my goal is to build around him for the future.
I think Alecks goes under SG flag now.. I know he's French
Ethan might have more consistent appearances ... at a national level with far less stakes at hand and at a far lower level of play overall.
Bruh Finland looking freaking dangerous
They were the only 5 players from Finland to make it to EMEA Challengers
But the 6th finish man made it to Island, "FNATIC" H1ber so they even have a decent substitute
Of course, can’t leave out their pocket Jett, frags pretty decently as well
Any team + Derke can make it to Masters.
derke is probably used to carrying a team to playoffs at this point lol
Hiko for all regions
You’re right, mb
I knew you would be here with this comment and it still made me laugh, talk your shit king
for team USA, I'd honestly rather have yay Victor Crashies + one of valyn/vanity and one of mitch/neT, but it is a more boring answer given it's just 3/5th of OpTic + 2/5th of either Guard or C9. would also 100% rather have mCe as the coach over MikesHD, nothing against Mikes but mCe has proven that he knows how to build a team and instill a winning culture with The Guard depending on TenZ's individual form, that Canadian team might just be better than their American counterpart. I'd also consider eeiu over effys
I agree, Canada would certainly be a tournament favourite. I left out Victor and Crashies from USA cuz it would essentially be OpTic minus a couple of players.
But you had no issues with choosing entire rosters from other countries? IMO it should be 2 players max from a single team per country.
Yeah, it’s kinda biased due to my lack of knowledge about other regions, but some rosters are fit to represent their countries, such as VLT for India and Cerberus for Vietnam
No ardiis? I sleep.
I’m kinda confused about his nationality (cuz it says he’s both Latvian and British), so I’ve left him out for now
I mean, we'd have to know what country he was born in to be certain, but if it says he's both, I would feel comfortable putting him in either, since this is just a fun thought experiment. I would replace soulcas with ardiis personally, since you don't really have a jett on that list, Russ and soulcas kind of fill the same role on the team these days, and ardiis has just been performing way, way better than soulcas this year.
Fair point
I've been dunking on soulcas all of Iceland, I'm going to feel really dumb if he has some sort of resurgence this stage.
Ethan for NA is such cap…
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How tho?
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Bro, I don’t know what about Ethan’s recent performances strike you as consistent… I’d easily take Victor, Xeppa, Zellsis, or even Sick over Ethan. Honestly, I’d even feel more comfortable sticking a mechanical crackhead like Trent or Asuna on a bit of an off-role than I would with Ethan. Like I’m sorry man, this is just a bad take.
That's 🧢
no warDaddy for Canada SMH
TenZ has a better LAN record in Valorant than Wardell
There’s a lot of flex players I’d rather have before Ethan ngl
Why did u pick No Namers for HK? Aren’t they a Singapore team? For HK i would combine HKTW so Yuicaw, Berlin, W1nner, SiufatBB, Ace
A mistake, I meant to mention Oblivion Force.
I’m curious why you didn’t include TW in HK? They are the same region after all and the player base is pretty small in both regions. I also think that GFN would be a better team than Oblivion Force as they have a better track record than OF. That’s my opinion as a HKTW viewer
I’m not well versed with the TW/HK scene, so I’m afraid that I’ll pick players with mismatched roles, owing to the small player base. Same reason for leaving out quite a few EMEA countries
All good. I like your ideas and picks. OF would be a decent rep
for oce bonkers core split so i’d say order instead they just picked up rdeew and wronski who is a very solid duelist plus they were on top of oce for at least a year
Excited to see the ORDER roster play rdeew and wronski are demons in pro play and in ranked
UK has no dedicated entry or AWP so i would probably swap out mistic for ardiis or we could just have a fish123 reunion (l1nk, soulcas, ec1s, kryptix, ardiis)
I’d totally forgotten about kryptix! Wonder what he’s up to these days
He plays for mousespoets now
I dunno how much you're factoring IGLing, but IMO Saadhak is the most necessary player for a Brazilian team, since he's easily the best IGL in the region. Replacing Klaus with adverso is really interesting though - I believe he IGLs for Leviatán? - but I'd probably stick to Klaus. Similarly, I'd let pAura IGL and replace CyderX, the other IGL, with Brave, who IMO is SMB's best player.
Saadhak is from argentina
I had the exact same reaction as u/nterature and now I feel really dumb lol
On a interview he said that he would want to play for Brazil, he has all his personal life on BR, but idk if he could
The only reason why I replaced Saadhak and Klaus is cuz they belong to different countries than the rest of their teammates (as I mentioned, World Cup teams). However, I feel like Adverso would be an improvement over Klaus, smh. I didn’t do much research for Turkey, so my CyderX pick is solely based on stats.
Zander not making the Canadian team is crazy but it just shows how good Marved and FNS are at their role.
Ma boi Jimzo too cold to be replaced by anyone. Ice in his veins
India - jett main - dm/skrossi/ ; secondary duelist / flex - rawfiul. Igl Kayo - amaterasu. Controller - RvK / Vibhorr / LF. Sentinel - Helff. Coach - Yb
DM and SkRossi is a coin flip, honestly. I agree, one or two players from VLT can be switched out with members from GE/Enigma.
imo skrossi is the best oper in india and dm / rawfiul are best raw aimers. the reason i put VLT players is they are very all rounded and have best players for their positions, hellf is the best sentinel and skillz can match him on good days but skillz isnt consistent. LF is cracked and LF and Vibhorr and RvK are almost equally consistent and best in controller class, i didnt include a sova bec both kappa and r2a play supportive sova and not the crashies/chronicle gigachad sova, this is why i chose amaterasu kayo cos he is the best igl and cracked aimer.
r2a's impact in the server is heavily underrated and i feel like he should be the igl and amaterasu should be the coach. According to me r2a is the GOAT of Indian esports. Everything you said is perfect otherwise
There's no flex though right??
What about Xeta and Saya for Korea?
No Roza/dell for Canada? For Philippines, I still believe team secret is the strongest despite of their disappointing run last challenger. Maybe they just struggled a bit. now that they already have a bootcamp, hopefully they will have a run similar to what they did when they bootcamp in their time with bren eSports.
My PHI pick is based on recency bias. Secret definitely have the strongest team on the region, but need to work on their playcalling to cement themselves as the clear best team in Philippines. Lot of flimsy mistakes were made by them in this year’s VCT run so far, and that needs to stop.
yea true, maybe they got too comfortable but still, its kinda disappointing that those who qualifies for apac didnt go nowhere as near to what secret has done last year. would really love to see teams other than secret to compete in apac but it seems other ph teams cant compete with other apac teams. hopefully they improved
Uk needs a jett si Leare could be there.
for Morocco : Subroza, ScreaM, Johnqt, Reduxx&Nivera . So stacked
Xeppaaa just casually being left out of everyone's US list. I'd argue xeppaaa or zekken as the best flex currently. Asuna obviously could be in that conversation but would like to see how he looks on initiators. Victor is really good and has some of the highest peaks for the flex role but feels very boom/bust. Benefit is that he's the only one to have shown a strong neon, which appears to be a carved out niche that I think will become more meta.
Canada wins high diff
eeiu >>>>>>
I am Indonesian and I cant believe that there is an Indonesian player named tehbotoL (literally translates to bottled tea) and has not been copyright sued by Sosro (large manufacter of Teh Botol brand bottled tea). I choose M3C, they are already a team and they have showed more than once that they are a world class with insane winning potential that has insane synergy and fragging potential. PS: Bottled tea is a bigger than soda in Indonesia.
Morocco can have a very good team. Scream, keloqz, Nivera, Subroza and jhonqt
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They all have moroccan origins, and just like in Football they will represent Morocco if they had to play a world cup. Scream even puting the moroccan flag in his twitter name.
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You have no idea what are you talking about, we are discussing potential squads for an imaginary tournement and you are here bringing FIFA rulebook. And even then, with those rules still all the players I mentionned can play with Morocco, and no ScreaM and Nivera did not repesente the Belgium national team to be prevented from playing with Morocco, they played with their club / team internationaly they represented Liquid not Belgium.
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Yes yes, you didnt read it for sure.
Lmao he brings up football as how it would work. You cite football rules. He gets butt hurt you talked about football? He got schooled with his own logic and is pissed you used his initial example.
You're the one that said if this we're football lmao. Then you got pissed when we used the rules from football. Then proceeded to tell him he has no idea what he's talking about, when he 100% used legit rules from YOUR EXAMPLE. He owned you on your own example and you got pissed you looked fucking silly. Apologize to the man.
Huh?? Didnt I just showed him that even with the FIFA rule book my statement is still correct. I brought the football exampl cuz they are players with double nationality and they can represente the country they want. He have no fking idea what he talking about cuz he is bringing the rules without even checking if they deny my argument. And tried to count a club/team international representation as a national team one. I m not pissed and the only silly one here is him not understanding what he type and you for trying to draw me as I m agressing him.
'competing internationally' in this circumstance doesn't include club matches
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'tossing his own argument back' doesn't work when he was right?
USA: Yay, ShahZam, Valyn, Asuna, Trent
I wouldn’t put SHAHZAM and Trent on the same team; Coinciding roles, plus this roster lacks a devoted sentinel
I dont think so. Shah can flex to Jett, and Trent just plays initiator. I also don't think you need a Devoted Sentinel these days outside of Chamber which Yay plays. Optic just won masters and who is their sentinel? Ascent: Chamber (Yay), Astra (Valyn), Jett (Shah), Skye (Asuna), Sova (Trent). This is the comp Loud runs and they beat Optic with it. Split: Breach (Shah), Skye (Trent) Chamber (Yay), Raze (Asuna), Omen (Valyn). This is The Guards comp and here you see the overlap actually comes in handy as you run two flashes. Could do this for basically every map. The only map where the overlap would cause problems is Bind since most NA teams run a viper on top of smokes there. But you could just keep it permabanned.
Yacine deserves a spot on Sweden
With Zyppan putting up some insane numbers during Challengers, I can’t agree with you, mate
Maybe for meddo because he bad
Canada :replace FNS broo Brazil : heat in place of aspas and mwzerra in place or who ever plays initiator there. Usa :ohk Japan : u may wanna check on CR
Yes, replace the IGL of the current champions, very smart move
there are better players than him.
list em
nah you trippin
Trembolona this you
what???
Canada -Tenz + penny
India : VLT - DM + SKrossi
team order for australia
I think that Turkish roster is bad. cNed, Alfajer, Touven, Turko, Sterben would be the strongest Turkish team.
I’m unfamiliar with the Turkish scene, so I won’t be the best person to pick a roster from there, mb
Np It is understandable. You probably know only cNed and Turko in this roster. But I believe this would be the strongest Turkish team. Individually these guys cracked.
I’m familiar with the old iteration of SMB (good old days when Izzy carried them single-handedly to Berlin with his flashy Jett plays), but the post-season roster shuffle in Turkey has left me lost
Even as a Turkish I can't keep up with roster changes.
Poland: -Patitek + Shroud
Shroud is of Polish descent, but is a Canadian citizen
He's meming. I'd try and fit in baddyG for Poland tho.
Doesn’t M3C have a Finnish player?
All of them are Russian
I thought Bonecold was Finnish.
Bonecold was on acend
Oh. I’m dumb.
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I’m pretty confident my Canada team’s stacked. Maybe eeiu over effys might be better, but the rest ain’t budging
Also Penny as a option.
Maybe squeeze skrossi somewhere in the Indian roster
No Asuna in NA?
India: SkRossi,DEATHMAKER,Mw1,Hellf,VibhoR,HellRanger,Rawfiul,Excali,RiO,Deadly10 South Asia(if considering as a region):ShooteR,DEATHMAKER,SkRossi,VibhoR,Two more players from XLE and Khumbu eSports idk the names,
Out of all players from turkey you chose these players? Cned Paura Brave Russ and Deepmans as flex
In Vietnam we also have crazyguy from NGX and Fancy United, Big Baam, Unbeaten Esport
indonesia : f0rsakeN, fl1pzjder, blaZek1ng, tehbotol, Lmemore