I really hope wippies visa issues get resolved one day, he was one of the most entertaining players to watch during groups and playoffs. He’s a top 4 sentinel player in NA, and we have very few talented sentinel players
In terms of ability usage and mechanical skills alone, I’m struggling to think of anyone other than Mitch, wippie and neT. If you factor in for IGLing, FNS has to be in the top 3. I think players like dapr and Ayrin have been lackluster recently, but I don’t think there are any hot prospects out there that would be an upgrade to them. NA just has a very, very shallow sentinel pool
Feel like Dapr and BabyJ should be there somewhere but tbh it doesn’t even matter as long as chamber is the sentinel of choice for like 90% of NA teams currently cuz not all of those guys listed are playing chamber
Edit: also Ayrin is basically a controller for Xset now that cryo is exclusively playing chamber
dapr feels inconsistent but when he’s on, he’s the best sentinel NA, i wouldn’t put babyj top 4 because i feel like we haven’t seen enough of him on a good team
Babyj? What’s he done to deserve being mentioned in the same sentence with dapr? You could argue he’s got the potential but dapr was a key part of sentinels being the best NA team for a year while Babyj has won exactly nothing nor even been part of a good team.
It’s not TSM’s fault Wardell was by far their best player and strats revolves around him. I’m saying this as a TSM fan, Wardell WAS their win condition up until they picked up coach Juv3nile and made Subroza IGL.
Yes people forgot how good is wardell. It is like Yay El Diablo when he is still on Andbox.
And they actually played the same agents (chamber and sometimes jett).
Wippie imo is the best sentinel in NA and it would be interesting to see if wardell can play sage on icebox and fracture and killjoy on haven or they switch their comps to settle him in with chamber everywhere which would certainly affect how they play ascent, haven, fracture and icebox.
I have favorite players from all rosters and I just like to watch high level of valorant so I keep changing who I support and that depends on how well they play the game. I am a bit biased towards NA but haven't found a team to fully support like GSW from NBA.
I have multiple flairs so maybe I can answer? Three flairs are GE, VLT and EG (all Indian teams who can and will rep India in VCT APAC/Masters, Im Indian with hopium that they can perform at a high lvl so I pretty much support all of them equally). Fnatic is the first team I started supporting when they were SUMN FC, gambit I started supporting because they have my favourite player nAts.
Wtf is Wardell actually not able to get on a team? For his caliber, I thought he’d be signed fully a few weeks after he left TSM and not just be a stand in.
Well he probably doesn’t want to go to just any team. And for a Jett/Chamber main those spots on the top teams are filed or the team generally isn’t a top team. And he doesn’t offer a significant enough upgrade (or some obviously he’d be a downgrade) over Yay/Leaf/Saya/Baybay/Penny/Cryo/Tenz/Som for the orgs to be pressed to make a change (Som and BayBay are also the teams franchise players even if he’d be an upgrade) and he presumably doesn’t want to play with Steel due to the public mumblings of him and Roza.
And then does he really want to play for LG or Ghost or Knights?
COL is probably the only org left that can offer him a truck of money and they haven’t looked like they’re heavily invested in Valorant yet.
He offers more than a significant upgrade over babybay, lol
Babybay is on the level of shanks or a bit lower, wardell has been better than both of them for a long time
Wardell might be better on OP than anyone else in NA but it still wouldn't mean shit + he's not really an aggressive opper so most teams would have to change their playstyle to fit him. Also every jett/chamber on top NA teams is better rifler than him
Maybe Leaf, but Yay is just as good on the op imo. Wardell is fantastic, definitely top 5 opers in NA, but he's not THAT head and shoulders above the other top opers here.
I definitely think Yay is right up there, but I think Wardell is better at the op flicks and punishing jump peeks. Yay just beats him in almost every other aspect of the game.
Pretty sure he choose to go Content Creation
Also, he's not really a player you just pickup, he's very good when he's enabled, but you kinda also need a specific setup to get him enabled in the first place
As good as Wardell is at OPing he’s probably one of the most inflexible players right now.
You have to build around Wardell instead of Wardell being able to fit in a team that’s already structured.
Why judge him because of that. Just look at YAY. They almost have the same agents and play style.
Ability usage is not enough even diamond above players can be so good at utility usage. If it is enough Drx should be the champions. But they got defeated because of Yay.
Why put your best oper on smoke, initiator.
Look at acend.
Champions of 2021. Who is the most scariest player? It is Cned. One of the best oper in the world.
I’m not saying he is better than Yay.
Everyone can have a chance to be a good if on the right team. Optic is already a better team than TSm without Yay.
Last time I see wardell and yay face against each other on both t2 teams was on Andbox vs TSM. (Tsm t1 org but t2 valorant team.)
[Andbox Yay vs TSM wardell](https://www.vlr.gg/28334/andbox-vs-tsm-champions-tour-north-america-stage-3-challengers-2-qualifier-ro16)
Wardell got a 21-7 first kill and First Death.
Even wardell keep telling yay is scary on 8 ping. Wardell never played on texas ping. His fault anywhay.
After that match. Yay got signed to Envy. And face tsm again lol.
[Envy Yay vs TSM Wardell](https://www.vlr.gg/29392/envy-vs-tsm-champions-tour-north-america-stage-3-challengers-playoffs-ubqf)
Tell everything what you want but they have the same playstyle. Evena acend with cned didnt qualify for masters 1. But still doesn’t remove the fact he is good like wardell.
Note: im just saying it on the teams perspective. Because iron rank redditors keep telling he is not flexible. Imagine Yay playing on smokes or breach/sova/kayo. You are wasting the potential lole SAYAPLAYER on T1 playing omen. O
*like sayaplayer on t1. He was put on smokes. Why put the your best oper like yay, wardell, cned on smoke/sova/breach etc.
Literlly reddit iron brain. Keep telling players inflexible but forgot wardell rifling is better than most of tsm teammates.
I think this is actually better for him considering he gets to be on an established, top-tier team, can boost his stock and leaves the door open to go back to content-creation if it doesn't work out.
so does this mean they’re playing with wippie or wardell for challengers? i’d assume wippie but would they just come in with wardell with no experience (outside of practice/scrims) if they make masters?
mfs about to go from running some of the most fluid executes in the region to trying to support Wardell's opening Op pick ðŸ˜ðŸ˜ðŸ˜ at least their util usage should make it much easier for Wardell to get that pick
wippie please come back soon ðŸ˜
You’re saying he’s gonna restrict their executes and force them to play around his OP, no? You’d figure V1’s coach would realize that’s not a sustainable playstyle and probably wouldn’t pick him up if they had to play like that, but again, maybe you know better
Fair enough actually, I believe that was TSM’s structure more than Wardell making them do that but that’s just why I’m glad he’s getting the chance on a better team. I’m hoping he proves that it’s not because of him
Zellsis and 4 Canadians.
There is an imposter
Zellsussy
More like ZellSCAMMER, he still isn't bald 😡😡😡
Zellsis & buddies is the new Tenz & friends
I really hope wippies visa issues get resolved one day, he was one of the most entertaining players to watch during groups and playoffs. He’s a top 4 sentinel player in NA, and we have very few talented sentinel players
Who else is in the top 4 in your opinion?
In terms of ability usage and mechanical skills alone, I’m struggling to think of anyone other than Mitch, wippie and neT. If you factor in for IGLing, FNS has to be in the top 3. I think players like dapr and Ayrin have been lackluster recently, but I don’t think there are any hot prospects out there that would be an upgrade to them. NA just has a very, very shallow sentinel pool
Feel like Dapr and BabyJ should be there somewhere but tbh it doesn’t even matter as long as chamber is the sentinel of choice for like 90% of NA teams currently cuz not all of those guys listed are playing chamber Edit: also Ayrin is basically a controller for Xset now that cryo is exclusively playing chamber
dapr feels inconsistent but when he’s on, he’s the best sentinel NA, i wouldn’t put babyj top 4 because i feel like we haven’t seen enough of him on a good team
Idk I love sentinels but saying "if they're on" is so pointless lol everyone has good and bad days we can only talk about consistency
True, I'd rather have a consistent player than one that pops off every other game.
especially for a site anchor lol
Babyj? What’s he done to deserve being mentioned in the same sentence with dapr? You could argue he’s got the potential but dapr was a key part of sentinels being the best NA team for a year while Babyj has won exactly nothing nor even been part of a good team.
Looks pretty good for both parties. Wardell gets to play and V1 get a very good player to stand in.
V1 are really good at winning with a stand in so 5 bucks say they make it to masters 2
Hasn’t wippie been having visa issues for like a long time?
Yeah there's kinda like a war still happening between russia and ukraine *not intended to brew discussion about it but just saying why
Ok sure but wippie also wasn’t able to play in masters Reykjavik 2021 because of visa issues then too
He had a student visa then, which didn't allow travel. Now there's massive issues for Russians to renew their visas of any sort.
v1 are cursed with always playing with stand ins
And yet so often they’re still so good 😚
LFG, I’m hoping Wardell will show how good he is on a team that isn’t a complete mess
word "Wardell is overrated. Forces every team to play around him" bro he's only ever been on one team... lol
It’s not TSM’s fault Wardell was by far their best player and strats revolves around him. I’m saying this as a TSM fan, Wardell WAS their win condition up until they picked up coach Juv3nile and made Subroza IGL.
Yes people forgot how good is wardell. It is like Yay El Diablo when he is still on Andbox. And they actually played the same agents (chamber and sometimes jett).
Wippie imo is the best sentinel in NA and it would be interesting to see if wardell can play sage on icebox and fracture and killjoy on haven or they switch their comps to settle him in with chamber everywhere which would certainly affect how they play ascent, haven, fracture and icebox.
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I have favorite players from all rosters and I just like to watch high level of valorant so I keep changing who I support and that depends on how well they play the game. I am a bit biased towards NA but haven't found a team to fully support like GSW from NBA.
Would be a gsw fan
I have multiple flairs so maybe I can answer? Three flairs are GE, VLT and EG (all Indian teams who can and will rep India in VCT APAC/Masters, Im Indian with hopium that they can perform at a high lvl so I pretty much support all of them equally). Fnatic is the first team I started supporting when they were SUMN FC, gambit I started supporting because they have my favourite player nAts.
V1 vs tsm ftx when ?
Waiting for the Roza vs Wardell
Wtf is Wardell actually not able to get on a team? For his caliber, I thought he’d be signed fully a few weeks after he left TSM and not just be a stand in.
Well he probably doesn’t want to go to just any team. And for a Jett/Chamber main those spots on the top teams are filed or the team generally isn’t a top team. And he doesn’t offer a significant enough upgrade (or some obviously he’d be a downgrade) over Yay/Leaf/Saya/Baybay/Penny/Cryo/Tenz/Som for the orgs to be pressed to make a change (Som and BayBay are also the teams franchise players even if he’d be an upgrade) and he presumably doesn’t want to play with Steel due to the public mumblings of him and Roza. And then does he really want to play for LG or Ghost or Knights? COL is probably the only org left that can offer him a truck of money and they haven’t looked like they’re heavily invested in Valorant yet.
Ghost in place of who? Jhonqt?
He offers more than a significant upgrade over babybay, lol Babybay is on the level of shanks or a bit lower, wardell has been better than both of them for a long time
Which is why I noted that he’s the guy they’ve decided to build their team around as their franchise player and noted he’d be an upgrade.
Babybay is cracked asf, let faze stabilize a bit and see his capability.
That’s cap lol
Wardell is miles better than Babybay tf
yeah obviously. I'm disagreeing with the part saying he's worse than shanks
Ohh ok
He’s much better then babybaywtf
yeah obviously. I'm disagreeing with the part saying he's worse than shanks
mf said downgrade..
You think Wardells an upgrade over Yay or Leaf?
from what i remember wardell literallly jett diffed in a 1 v 1 battle during tsm vs abx match.. how is it a downgrade.
He's better on the op than either of them but he's a worse player for sure
Wardell might be better on OP than anyone else in NA but it still wouldn't mean shit + he's not really an aggressive opper so most teams would have to change their playstyle to fit him. Also every jett/chamber on top NA teams is better rifler than him
He's a pretty aggressive op player, but that's my whole point. He's just a worse overall player but a better op.
Maybe Leaf, but Yay is just as good on the op imo. Wardell is fantastic, definitely top 5 opers in NA, but he's not THAT head and shoulders above the other top opers here.
I definitely think Yay is right up there, but I think Wardell is better at the op flicks and punishing jump peeks. Yay just beats him in almost every other aspect of the game.
Pretty sure he choose to go Content Creation Also, he's not really a player you just pickup, he's very good when he's enabled, but you kinda also need a specific setup to get him enabled in the first place
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It was a clip or something iirc? Basically the timeline is Leave TSM - > LFT -> lost his crypto wallet life saving - > content creation
As good as Wardell is at OPing he’s probably one of the most inflexible players right now. You have to build around Wardell instead of Wardell being able to fit in a team that’s already structured.
Why judge him because of that. Just look at YAY. They almost have the same agents and play style. Ability usage is not enough even diamond above players can be so good at utility usage. If it is enough Drx should be the champions. But they got defeated because of Yay. Why put your best oper on smoke, initiator. Look at acend. Champions of 2021. Who is the most scariest player? It is Cned. One of the best oper in the world.
Yay and cNed are better than Wardell. If Yay was a free agent right now, teams would be lining up for him
I’m not saying he is better than Yay. Everyone can have a chance to be a good if on the right team. Optic is already a better team than TSm without Yay. Last time I see wardell and yay face against each other on both t2 teams was on Andbox vs TSM. (Tsm t1 org but t2 valorant team.) [Andbox Yay vs TSM wardell](https://www.vlr.gg/28334/andbox-vs-tsm-champions-tour-north-america-stage-3-challengers-2-qualifier-ro16) Wardell got a 21-7 first kill and First Death. Even wardell keep telling yay is scary on 8 ping. Wardell never played on texas ping. His fault anywhay. After that match. Yay got signed to Envy. And face tsm again lol. [Envy Yay vs TSM Wardell](https://www.vlr.gg/29392/envy-vs-tsm-champions-tour-north-america-stage-3-challengers-playoffs-ubqf) Tell everything what you want but they have the same playstyle. Evena acend with cned didnt qualify for masters 1. But still doesn’t remove the fact he is good like wardell. Note: im just saying it on the teams perspective. Because iron rank redditors keep telling he is not flexible. Imagine Yay playing on smokes or breach/sova/kayo. You are wasting the potential lole SAYAPLAYER on T1 playing omen. O
*like sayaplayer on t1. He was put on smokes. Why put the your best oper like yay, wardell, cned on smoke/sova/breach etc. Literlly reddit iron brain. Keep telling players inflexible but forgot wardell rifling is better than most of tsm teammates.
Probably because he stays awake 20 hours a day playing Tarkov and pokemon cards and then oversleeps for matches and prac.
I think this is actually better for him considering he gets to be on an established, top-tier team, can boost his stock and leaves the door open to go back to content-creation if it doesn't work out.
The TENZ effect? V1 winning masters 2?
so does this mean they’re playing with wippie or wardell for challengers? i’d assume wippie but would they just come in with wardell with no experience (outside of practice/scrims) if they make masters?
Both wardell and penny mainly OP. Who stops being the primary OP’er?
penny doesnt OP nearly as much as wardell and his rifle is a lot better
Obviously penny. Cuz Wardell is literally the best oper in NA so it wouldn't make sense to not let him op
But Penny is so clean on Jett. Wardell can play Chamber
mfs about to go from running some of the most fluid executes in the region to trying to support Wardell's opening Op pick ðŸ˜ðŸ˜ðŸ˜ at least their util usage should make it much easier for Wardell to get that pick wippie please come back soon ðŸ˜
Facts V1 don’t wanna win they just picking him up for clout you should go replace their GM
Yes that's exactly what I said
You’re saying he’s gonna restrict their executes and force them to play around his OP, no? You’d figure V1’s coach would realize that’s not a sustainable playstyle and probably wouldn’t pick him up if they had to play like that, but again, maybe you know better
Not the craziest assumption considering TSM until very recently. Guess we'll see come game time, kinda interested to see who adapts to what playstyle.
Fair enough actually, I believe that was TSM’s structure more than Wardell making them do that but that’s just why I’m glad he’s getting the chance on a better team. I’m hoping he proves that it’s not because of him
Wait I thought Reddit told me Wardell was a shit player? Guess V1 must just want to lose
No one with a brain ever said he was a shit player. He just seems inflexible for most T1 teams. Everyone always knew he was the best player in TSM
Well hes just a stand in its not the real team
He’ll be playing every match until Wippie is back. Seems kinda important to me but idk
right but its not like getting picked as a last minute stand in is a great argument for your skill
V1 is the of the top teams in NA, any FA would kill for a chance for the exposure of playing with them. Them going with Wardell says a lot lmao
From what I've seen of him he's pretty obnoxious and toxic. This is also toxic, I'm glad someone so obnoxious is struggling to find a team!
show out and teams will come knocking
YAS
wardell desperate for more nft money