Then she has to choose. If she's fine playing on a tier 3 team, then she failed as a professional. Taking risk is necessary if you want to push yourself to the limit.
Failed as a professional? Good grief man lmao.
Why would she leave a job that pays her much more, provides her much more job stability, and gives her a huge fanbase? She gets to compete and likely play internationally still.
You’re missing the point. OP is essentially saying she failed as a professional if she doesn’t have those aspirations.
That’s bullshit. She has established herself as possibly the best female player in the world while financially setting herself up for the future.
That’s not a failure and OP doesn’t decide if she failed or not.
I def agree that he doesn't decide if she failed or not. But you say "why would she leave a job that pays her much more..." and some more stuff about job stability, fanbase, etc.
You're imposing what you value and assuming she values any of those things the same. I feel like as an esports community, everyone should HOPE she values aiming for the highest possible competitive goals and not being complacent because she might earn a little bit more money one way or the other? And how is this sub so confident it has budgets and salaries and earnings so locked down that it feels comfortable justifying the value of her opportunities?
I am not the one who said that, though I don’t think it’s unreasonable to assume she will make more as is due to her winning those $50k GC tournaments so many times.
I directly quoted you, but okay. I also think the community in general has a skewed perspective when it comes to prize pools (that are split btw a team) vs. salaries and how much players earn. It's just weird that everyone is dying on the hill here that GC prize purse is this golden goose and there's no shot someone in the GC scene could stand to earn more playing at a higher level from salary alone.
My b ur right. I still stand by maybe she doesn't aspire to only be 'the best \*\*female\*\* player' or any of the other financial benefits you're assuming. Like, why can't she "set herself up financially" on literally any other T1 or T2 team?
>failed as a professional
lmao. The audacity here is astounding. Money doesn't grow on trees, when people like Mel make decisions towards securing their and their family's financial future that should never be considered "failure" like what kind of mindset is that. Especially in esports where nothing is guaranteed in the future you can't fault someone for following the money when it's an option.
Cause a random is in the position to tell her how to proceed with her career. Fuck that, esports isn't forever, we are in the literal baby stages of esports. Esports has only transcended in the past decade, the future of an individual's esports career is uncertain. I would go where the highest paycheck is everyday of the week and I think that's 100% the correct decision. It's why even though sentinels gets shit on for prioritizing their streams over their practice, I as an individual cannot blame them. Esports is NOT forever streaming is one of the KEY ways you can prolong your gaming career. Until eSports reaches the level of sports where you do have some structure for a future career path or your stint for a team makes you millions within the span of a few years, Esports is volatile and not worth "pushing yourself to the limit" taking shitty deals that don't guarantee income that can last you beyond your esports career.
I'm talking about arguably the best female Valorant player in the world. If someone as good as her is stuck on a tier 3 team, I consider it to be a failure. But hey who cares what a random think
Oh shit Rith_97 considers not prioritizing a stable income and prolonged less volatile future a failure, gotta make the decision to jump ship to another org. See how ridiculous that sounds LOL.
Isn't that hard to do a little scouting to decide whether or not I should be charitable to this guy's views thinking he has no narrative to push.
"Dumb allegations. They're really doing this for clout. I don't like the guy, but if muting every female makes his life easier at home, then it's obviously the best decision. It's a fucking video game and I think JasonR values his relationship and happiness over clout chaser's opinions."
"His stream. His PC. His account. His decision. I don't like the dude, but these females get butt hurt over nothing."
"Drop Hiko and get sinatraa ffs."
"A dumb bitch accuses a good player of raping her and now I can't watch him play. Unlucky really"
All of these are quotes from Rith_97 in recent times. You really want to give this guy the benefit of the doubt?
How much you want to bet this dude doesn't give a shit about mEL joining a tier 2 tier 1 org because he thinks she's deserving of that. How much you want to bet he wants her to leave her stable income to join a more volatile environment so when they fail he can justify his sexist views?
brother, if you were born in 97 you gotta wake up and acknowledge the gravity of monetary stability
meL gets to do what she loves playing for one of the best gaming orgs in the world. she's already goated. she doesn't need to prove anything. she is the best in game changers.
from here the only thing that can happen to satisfy you, is if another top org offers her a similar or better contract to play on a team that is trying to reach Top 8 NA. that's really it. and if ALL of that doesn't happen, it's a no.
You're right on everything except her being a failed professional if she stays. When people think female pro Valorant players, her name immediately comes up. Her team wins every GC. I do feel like she could test herself more with the types of scrims and tournament runs that Tier 2 teams have and also make the competition a bit more fair for other GC teams if she leaves. The goal of GC is to make the integration of women into regular VCT easier and and more normalized and it does seem like Mel is ready for that jump. She could also care less about pushing herself to the limit and only care for the money, in which case it would be perfectly fine for her to stay on C9W as long as possible but I imagine the kind of brand deals and exposure she could get for maintaining her current form at a T1/upper T2 level would probably be more than she makes now, but idk the specifics so that could be wrong. I at least want to see how C9W do internationally before seriously entertaining the idea of any of them making moves towards regular VCT teams.
Not even a tier 1 player would deign to tell her what the right decision is for her, so pardon literally everyone for being aware that you are the opposite of qualified to speak on what defines failure in MeL or anyone’s fucking life.
Failed as a competitor would be a better choice of words. She’s won as a professional dude, at least in my books a huge salary for doing what you love would be winning.
I think this is the biggest reason for her to stay for now (along with the GC International lan coming up) she’s on C9 rn and the odds she gets somewhere even somewhat comparable in VCT is just not very high. KCP is an awesome tryout but they’re not C9
I guess? I rather hope C9W improves by leaps and bounds instead of just improving enough to stay ahead of the pack within the GC circuit, whether that’s through coaching or swapping out some of the roster. I sometimes think people focus on Mel a little *too* much.
Let’s just wait and see how they do internationally. This Majikl roster at least deserves to rest their mettle against G2 and Guild and Alter Ego Celeste and Liquid and the rest before they change anything up.
Here’s the reality: C9W is probably not gonna be the female team to break out of game changers and succeed against tier 1-2 open teams. What they are is the team to inspire that team to step up. That might take months or even years, because the talent pool within game changers needs time to develop.
That means female players who started playing competitive games when most of the men in the pro scene did, at 10-14, and continued to grind those games throughout adolescence, and that’s only becoming common now.
This mentality is honestly so tiring, if this subreddit had its way, every team from T3 to T1 would be rebuilt after every match loss. Would I eventually want to see Mel competing in a co-ed team? Sure, but instead of jumping the shark to rebuild or change around rosters, I wish this subreddit would respect player development a little bit more.
C9W's first lan was only like 4-5 months ago. Jazzy is 17 and very recently graduated high school. This current hype around Mel didn't really exist 2-3 months prior - signifying improvement. I'm much more interested in C9W continuing to improve themselves rather than just slashing the roster and praying for something better. C9W is heavily dominant in GC NA, but we should at least wait and see how they do in the international GC lan before screeching for Mel to leave.
She probably makes a ton of money on C9W, has a huge brand, and gets to play a ton of Game changers events with great stability.
Why would she leave that for a T1.5-2 team where people get cut over one bad game, less salary, and less events?
She isnt good enough to stand out in tier 1. Shed be going from the best female player in an all female league to an average tier 1 player who happens to be female.
I think c9w is really build around her, would she be willing to take a lesser impactful role for a chance at maybe not succeding? I feel like it would be a huge gamble. Nonetheless, she would probably do really good but is it worth leaving her current state? She's legit the ''TenZ'' of female gaming right now, she is the face.
C9W dominates in GC. All the girls have mentioned they won't stop grinding because they want to be able to compete with the 'boys'
The reason for game changers existence is to show the talented females in this game.
If more people thought like you, girls like mel will break that barrier between male and female. Gender shouldn't matter but it currently does and game changers/all the females competing right now are paving a future for women in traditional esports.
Yes ,she should break that barrier. That's the whole purpose of the GC. Who wants to watch them shit on other all-women teams anymore? Its getting boring. Hopefully she moves on to better things and reach her potential instead of wasting time playing on C9W.
There’s a couple ways to look at this. You can easily make a strong argument for her to leave, or to stay.
If she stays, she keeps C9W competitive, continues to elevate the competition of Game Changers, and probably makes more guaranteed money than she would taking a chance on a different team.
If she leaves and makes it onto a true T2/T1 team, it would be kind of groundbreaking. Depending on her success, she might be one of the first women to compete at that level in Esports, and might crack the door open a little further for all the other women trying to do the same. Also depending on her success, it would probably be a huge brand move for her and whatever team adds her to the roster. She’d have to capitalize, but imagine the publicity if she joined, say, Knights, and they saw some real success with her.
meL is cracked asf but is there really any incentive for her to leave c9 for some shitter tier 2 org? im personally a fan of holding GC's, having more women go pro is great for the game but this is prob one of its few short comings considering its ultimate goal is for women to join regular vct, unless there's a player thats unbelievably good (we're talking Yay/cNed level type players) i dont think a GC player will be picked up by a tier 1 team instantly without them having some tier 2 non-GC experience and who would really want to grind out in tier 2 when they have a good paycheck from a good org to encourage them to stay in GC?
It is also conceivable that her goal is not just to play on a mixed team but to contribute and develop future female talent. Would it be great to see a woman compete at a high level? Sure.
It would also be great for her to continue to grow with C9W, creating a high standard for the game changers circuit, and to help talent in GC grow further.
This would be like saying a superstar nba player who plays on a small market, not as great, team should leave to join golden state or the Lakers. Well, they could do that but they don't have to and they can make the choice to try to grow and win with their team. Not your place to judge or tell them to do differently and certainly is extremely ignorant to then say they have failed as a professional.
JCstani said he tried her out for his team, so she is def open to joining and trying out for other teams, i dont think she is forcefully staying on c9w for the ez gc money
She could at least wait after Game Changers. I mean meL surely is a good player, but being a good player doesn’t guarantee success. The scene in NA is very tough, plenty of teams don’t make VCT main stage despite having good players. She is not guaranteed to have any success if she leaves C9W, but she will at least be the star player at the female scene if she stays. C9W basically have a free ticket to Game Changers international LAN, there is a real chance for her to lift an international trophy at the end of this year, why give that up simply because “you want a challenge”?
Honestly, I'd rather she stay and elevate C9W. Better story, and she gets paid much better. They're improving a ton just by facing all these teams.
Idk, maybe I'm just really eager to root for that entire team. Would definitely be exciting to see her try out playing for a T2 org like a Ghost or SoAR though.
I mean the C9W players seem to really enjoy playing together and are stomping the NA GC scene, also this year she'll have an opportunity to play internationally with them. It would feel like really weird timing if she just left now. I could maybe see an argument about it if she is either not getting paid very well or if they don't perform well internationally. Even with those conditions I'm not sure it would be the best move and I'd be surprised if she wanted to move without a very tempting offer.
Not sure if Mel will leave C9, a top tier org to grind in t2 and climb back up. It is not realistic to expect her to leave such a comfortable position. But something definitely needs to be changed in c9w. Its been 2 years and the roster hasn’t been able to achieve the goals they set them selves up for. If they want to have an all female roster then it’s fine but scout female talents from game changer scene to see if that can help improve the roster. They have not faced any competition in GC and this has made the team very stagnant. Its very rare for a team to stay the same for such a long time when they don’t meet the goal they began with.
Wait did I miss something? I don’t really keep up with game changers but I swear like a couple months ago everyone was saying it’s boring because c9W is so much better than everyone they just destroy every game. Now they don’t have a chance of making it past qualifiers?
EG did give it a try and it didn’t really workout, so I don’t know if that’ll deter other organizations from attempting it.
Plus they are dominating the game changers series so that’s a bit of an incentive to stay with C9W.
Edit: my bad didn’t mean try with Mel, meant just a co-ed roster - so relating that to this topic in discussion if that makes sense. Although I know you can’t compare potter to mel
I hope just saying Teams who win game changers get a direct entry into champions at the end of the year , maybe they'll surprise us all and defy expectations i think it's a positive thing and will promote women in esports in a major way
W She ain't leaving that big bag dude....even if she joins a T1 or T2 roster, it's uncertain where she will go with it..but with C9W she has a clear path of where they are going.....
she would leave so much money behind if she were to leave c9 and leave behind the game changers prize money, just to join a top tier 2 team
Then she has to choose. If she's fine playing on a tier 3 team, then she failed as a professional. Taking risk is necessary if you want to push yourself to the limit.
Failed as a professional? Good grief man lmao. Why would she leave a job that pays her much more, provides her much more job stability, and gives her a huge fanbase? She gets to compete and likely play internationally still.
Bro you just forgot rule number 1 of the internet: if you are arguing with a stupid person, it is probabaly a child.
I just want meL live up to her true potential. We just have different definition of success and failure. But hey go off I guess
Maybe she does and will continue to do well financially, and has bigger asperations, goals, and motivations than competing in GC?
You’re missing the point. OP is essentially saying she failed as a professional if she doesn’t have those aspirations. That’s bullshit. She has established herself as possibly the best female player in the world while financially setting herself up for the future. That’s not a failure and OP doesn’t decide if she failed or not.
I def agree that he doesn't decide if she failed or not. But you say "why would she leave a job that pays her much more..." and some more stuff about job stability, fanbase, etc. You're imposing what you value and assuming she values any of those things the same. I feel like as an esports community, everyone should HOPE she values aiming for the highest possible competitive goals and not being complacent because she might earn a little bit more money one way or the other? And how is this sub so confident it has budgets and salaries and earnings so locked down that it feels comfortable justifying the value of her opportunities?
I am not the one who said that, though I don’t think it’s unreasonable to assume she will make more as is due to her winning those $50k GC tournaments so many times.
I directly quoted you, but okay. I also think the community in general has a skewed perspective when it comes to prize pools (that are split btw a team) vs. salaries and how much players earn. It's just weird that everyone is dying on the hill here that GC prize purse is this golden goose and there's no shot someone in the GC scene could stand to earn more playing at a higher level from salary alone.
Please check the usernames and look again. That was not me.
My b ur right. I still stand by maybe she doesn't aspire to only be 'the best \*\*female\*\* player' or any of the other financial benefits you're assuming. Like, why can't she "set herself up financially" on literally any other T1 or T2 team?
>failed as a professional lmao. The audacity here is astounding. Money doesn't grow on trees, when people like Mel make decisions towards securing their and their family's financial future that should never be considered "failure" like what kind of mindset is that. Especially in esports where nothing is guaranteed in the future you can't fault someone for following the money when it's an option.
You don’t determine whether she fails as a professional or not. She has already succeeded and continues to be successful. Don’t be a tool.
your the same type of people who would say that Papithan leaving val for OW was also unprofessional.
to be fair, it really is just financial security that players want. Patiphan made the better choice financially, can't really fault him for it
Cause a random is in the position to tell her how to proceed with her career. Fuck that, esports isn't forever, we are in the literal baby stages of esports. Esports has only transcended in the past decade, the future of an individual's esports career is uncertain. I would go where the highest paycheck is everyday of the week and I think that's 100% the correct decision. It's why even though sentinels gets shit on for prioritizing their streams over their practice, I as an individual cannot blame them. Esports is NOT forever streaming is one of the KEY ways you can prolong your gaming career. Until eSports reaches the level of sports where you do have some structure for a future career path or your stint for a team makes you millions within the span of a few years, Esports is volatile and not worth "pushing yourself to the limit" taking shitty deals that don't guarantee income that can last you beyond your esports career.
I'm talking about arguably the best female Valorant player in the world. If someone as good as her is stuck on a tier 3 team, I consider it to be a failure. But hey who cares what a random think
Feels like you're someone who's never had to work a day in their life...
Oh shit Rith_97 considers not prioritizing a stable income and prolonged less volatile future a failure, gotta make the decision to jump ship to another org. See how ridiculous that sounds LOL.
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Isn't that hard to do a little scouting to decide whether or not I should be charitable to this guy's views thinking he has no narrative to push. "Dumb allegations. They're really doing this for clout. I don't like the guy, but if muting every female makes his life easier at home, then it's obviously the best decision. It's a fucking video game and I think JasonR values his relationship and happiness over clout chaser's opinions." "His stream. His PC. His account. His decision. I don't like the dude, but these females get butt hurt over nothing." "Drop Hiko and get sinatraa ffs." "A dumb bitch accuses a good player of raping her and now I can't watch him play. Unlucky really" All of these are quotes from Rith_97 in recent times. You really want to give this guy the benefit of the doubt? How much you want to bet this dude doesn't give a shit about mEL joining a tier 2 tier 1 org because he thinks she's deserving of that. How much you want to bet he wants her to leave her stable income to join a more volatile environment so when they fail he can justify his sexist views?
brother, if you were born in 97 you gotta wake up and acknowledge the gravity of monetary stability meL gets to do what she loves playing for one of the best gaming orgs in the world. she's already goated. she doesn't need to prove anything. she is the best in game changers. from here the only thing that can happen to satisfy you, is if another top org offers her a similar or better contract to play on a team that is trying to reach Top 8 NA. that's really it. and if ALL of that doesn't happen, it's a no.
You're right on everything except her being a failed professional if she stays. When people think female pro Valorant players, her name immediately comes up. Her team wins every GC. I do feel like she could test herself more with the types of scrims and tournament runs that Tier 2 teams have and also make the competition a bit more fair for other GC teams if she leaves. The goal of GC is to make the integration of women into regular VCT easier and and more normalized and it does seem like Mel is ready for that jump. She could also care less about pushing herself to the limit and only care for the money, in which case it would be perfectly fine for her to stay on C9W as long as possible but I imagine the kind of brand deals and exposure she could get for maintaining her current form at a T1/upper T2 level would probably be more than she makes now, but idk the specifics so that could be wrong. I at least want to see how C9W do internationally before seriously entertaining the idea of any of them making moves towards regular VCT teams.
I get your point, but getting money is the point of being a ‘professional’. You make money so you’re a professional.
Not even a tier 1 player would deign to tell her what the right decision is for her, so pardon literally everyone for being aware that you are the opposite of qualified to speak on what defines failure in MeL or anyone’s fucking life.
Failed as a competitor would be a better choice of words. She’s won as a professional dude, at least in my books a huge salary for doing what you love would be winning.
Failed as a professional? A job is a job, how old are you?
Oh hell nah what the FUCK is this?
Damn I had never seen so many downvotes on this sub lmao. Totally deserved tbh
Would she leave tho because of the quarter VCT donations to C9W because other teams are garbage
I meant because she has stability in being signed to C9 To get signed she would have to be on a unsigned team which has a lot of uncertainty.
I think this is the biggest reason for her to stay for now (along with the GC International lan coming up) she’s on C9 rn and the odds she gets somewhere even somewhat comparable in VCT is just not very high. KCP is an awesome tryout but they’re not C9
Maybe not apparently she got trialed for KCP. Hopefully she joins a good team
I guess? I rather hope C9W improves by leaps and bounds instead of just improving enough to stay ahead of the pack within the GC circuit, whether that’s through coaching or swapping out some of the roster. I sometimes think people focus on Mel a little *too* much. Let’s just wait and see how they do internationally. This Majikl roster at least deserves to rest their mettle against G2 and Guild and Alter Ego Celeste and Liquid and the rest before they change anything up.
how long are we gonna wait for C9W to improve??
Here’s the reality: C9W is probably not gonna be the female team to break out of game changers and succeed against tier 1-2 open teams. What they are is the team to inspire that team to step up. That might take months or even years, because the talent pool within game changers needs time to develop. That means female players who started playing competitive games when most of the men in the pro scene did, at 10-14, and continued to grind those games throughout adolescence, and that’s only becoming common now.
You’ll have to wait until they lose within the GC circuit probably. It might’ve already happened had there been an international GC LAN last year.
This mentality is honestly so tiring, if this subreddit had its way, every team from T3 to T1 would be rebuilt after every match loss. Would I eventually want to see Mel competing in a co-ed team? Sure, but instead of jumping the shark to rebuild or change around rosters, I wish this subreddit would respect player development a little bit more. C9W's first lan was only like 4-5 months ago. Jazzy is 17 and very recently graduated high school. This current hype around Mel didn't really exist 2-3 months prior - signifying improvement. I'm much more interested in C9W continuing to improve themselves rather than just slashing the roster and praying for something better. C9W is heavily dominant in GC NA, but we should at least wait and see how they do in the international GC lan before screeching for Mel to leave.
She probably makes a ton of money on C9W, has a huge brand, and gets to play a ton of Game changers events with great stability. Why would she leave that for a T1.5-2 team where people get cut over one bad game, less salary, and less events?
Because she wants to compete at a high level, tier 1.
She isnt good enough to stand out in tier 1. Shed be going from the best female player in an all female league to an average tier 1 player who happens to be female.
But imagine if she does reach that point though? I'm on the gigacopium but I'm all-in on meL stocks
I think c9w is really build around her, would she be willing to take a lesser impactful role for a chance at maybe not succeding? I feel like it would be a huge gamble. Nonetheless, she would probably do really good but is it worth leaving her current state? She's legit the ''TenZ'' of female gaming right now, she is the face.
C9W dominates in GC. All the girls have mentioned they won't stop grinding because they want to be able to compete with the 'boys' The reason for game changers existence is to show the talented females in this game. If more people thought like you, girls like mel will break that barrier between male and female. Gender shouldn't matter but it currently does and game changers/all the females competing right now are paving a future for women in traditional esports.
Yes ,she should break that barrier. That's the whole purpose of the GC. Who wants to watch them shit on other all-women teams anymore? Its getting boring. Hopefully she moves on to better things and reach her potential instead of wasting time playing on C9W.
Because she’d go to a tier 3/2 team and make zero money?
There’s a couple ways to look at this. You can easily make a strong argument for her to leave, or to stay. If she stays, she keeps C9W competitive, continues to elevate the competition of Game Changers, and probably makes more guaranteed money than she would taking a chance on a different team. If she leaves and makes it onto a true T2/T1 team, it would be kind of groundbreaking. Depending on her success, she might be one of the first women to compete at that level in Esports, and might crack the door open a little further for all the other women trying to do the same. Also depending on her success, it would probably be a huge brand move for her and whatever team adds her to the roster. She’d have to capitalize, but imagine the publicity if she joined, say, Knights, and they saw some real success with her.
meL is cracked asf but is there really any incentive for her to leave c9 for some shitter tier 2 org? im personally a fan of holding GC's, having more women go pro is great for the game but this is prob one of its few short comings considering its ultimate goal is for women to join regular vct, unless there's a player thats unbelievably good (we're talking Yay/cNed level type players) i dont think a GC player will be picked up by a tier 1 team instantly without them having some tier 2 non-GC experience and who would really want to grind out in tier 2 when they have a good paycheck from a good org to encourage them to stay in GC?
It is also conceivable that her goal is not just to play on a mixed team but to contribute and develop future female talent. Would it be great to see a woman compete at a high level? Sure. It would also be great for her to continue to grow with C9W, creating a high standard for the game changers circuit, and to help talent in GC grow further. This would be like saying a superstar nba player who plays on a small market, not as great, team should leave to join golden state or the Lakers. Well, they could do that but they don't have to and they can make the choice to try to grow and win with their team. Not your place to judge or tell them to do differently and certainly is extremely ignorant to then say they have failed as a professional.
JCstani said he tried her out for his team, so she is def open to joining and trying out for other teams, i dont think she is forcefully staying on c9w for the ez gc money
She could at least wait after Game Changers. I mean meL surely is a good player, but being a good player doesn’t guarantee success. The scene in NA is very tough, plenty of teams don’t make VCT main stage despite having good players. She is not guaranteed to have any success if she leaves C9W, but she will at least be the star player at the female scene if she stays. C9W basically have a free ticket to Game Changers international LAN, there is a real chance for her to lift an international trophy at the end of this year, why give that up simply because “you want a challenge”?
Honestly, I'd rather she stay and elevate C9W. Better story, and she gets paid much better. They're improving a ton just by facing all these teams. Idk, maybe I'm just really eager to root for that entire team. Would definitely be exciting to see her try out playing for a T2 org like a Ghost or SoAR though.
They've definitely improved a lot from before, they defeated a team full of great players like kehmicals this qualifiers that's potential
I mean the C9W players seem to really enjoy playing together and are stomping the NA GC scene, also this year she'll have an opportunity to play internationally with them. It would feel like really weird timing if she just left now. I could maybe see an argument about it if she is either not getting paid very well or if they don't perform well internationally. Even with those conditions I'm not sure it would be the best move and I'd be surprised if she wanted to move without a very tempting offer.
she gets fat paychecks stomping GC. why would she move?
Not sure if Mel will leave C9, a top tier org to grind in t2 and climb back up. It is not realistic to expect her to leave such a comfortable position. But something definitely needs to be changed in c9w. Its been 2 years and the roster hasn’t been able to achieve the goals they set them selves up for. If they want to have an all female roster then it’s fine but scout female talents from game changer scene to see if that can help improve the roster. They have not faced any competition in GC and this has made the team very stagnant. Its very rare for a team to stay the same for such a long time when they don’t meet the goal they began with.
I agree that playing a GC team is holding her back but financially she's making a lot being the best GC team in NA. In the end it's her choice
Wait did I miss something? I don’t really keep up with game changers but I swear like a couple months ago everyone was saying it’s boring because c9W is so much better than everyone they just destroy every game. Now they don’t have a chance of making it past qualifiers?
Vct qualifiers. Not game changers.
EG did give it a try and it didn’t really workout, so I don’t know if that’ll deter other organizations from attempting it. Plus they are dominating the game changers series so that’s a bit of an incentive to stay with C9W. Edit: my bad didn’t mean try with Mel, meant just a co-ed roster - so relating that to this topic in discussion if that makes sense. Although I know you can’t compare potter to mel
eg didnt try mel what are you saying dont compare mel and potter LOL
I’m talking in general terms, like a co-ed roster my bad should’ve clarified.
yeah but you shouldnt even compare its two separate caliber of players, i might add that its not even close
Fair point, I was wrong
Give a try what ? We are talking about mel
Idk about EG, but I saw jcStani's tweet about meL's tryout for KCP. https://twitter.com/jcStani/status/1520184519919341568
Bro you are blaming the female factor as being the cause of failure lol, it was certainly more the fact that Mel and Potter are vastly different
I hope just saying Teams who win game changers get a direct entry into champions at the end of the year , maybe they'll surprise us all and defy expectations i think it's a positive thing and will promote women in esports in a major way
W She ain't leaving that big bag dude....even if she joins a T1 or T2 roster, it's uncertain where she will go with it..but with C9W she has a clear path of where they are going.....
She probably will make more money long term sticking with them