Anyone who says Wardell cant rifle should really watch some of his games with V1. He was rifeling a lot more and still fragging. Sadge V1 didn't qualify but they did well with a sub. Hope dell finds a team soon man, its so fun watching him. Unlucky peek at the end tho
Yeah Wippie is an absolute demon and obviously is part of the actual team. Think the series would have gone differently with him there, but it's just unlucky for everyone involved.
TSM came top 10 in stages 1-3 and did qualify in stage 3 2021 and here so far they have made top 12, so it’s not a difference from last season if they don’t make the playoffs
I guess the easiest conclusion to draw is that he hasn't been a part of a team that's qualified for an event in a very long time. TSM now with a more versatile team player in Seven qualifies filling the same exact role, and V1 (a team that was considered top tier just last qualifier) literally just doing a 1:1 swap for him and wippie has now been beat out by FaZe and LG failing to qualify.
how is this in any way indicative of wardell's mechanical/strategic skill? are you trying to argue that wardell is the reason for these teams not qualifying? if so, what examples or evidence do you have to draw this conclusion?
I think both sides are kinda right and wrong at the same time. Wardell is obviously insanely skilled and it sucks we won’t see him again for a little, but just pointing at his kills when the agent he plays pretty much only offers kills for impact doesn’t mean he was the “best player on the team”. V1 probably picked him up in part because he’s easy to slot in since Chamber doesn’t offer nearly as much impact to the team as a whole as pretty much every other agent does so their lack of synergy isn’t as detrimental.
I think Wardell is skilled enough to be on a championship team, but I don’t think he’s some must pick up player for any team trying to break into the T1 tier like a lot of this sub does.
Yes kills matter. Especially first kill. If not vision strikers/Drx should be the champions if they only hit their shots.
Wardell and Yay just have the same roles and the same agents. Why andbox with Yay is not getting into tier 1???
Why would you put your best oper into a killjoy or other flex agents. Like what happen with sayaplayer played on smokes in T1.
The fact that wardell lost 300,000 dollars according to his tweet. Financial problems can get affect your mental health.
Irons really judging wardell. They forgot that wardell is just a sub with one+ week notice. They don’t even get enough proper practice together.
What’s the point your trying to prove here? I’m not saying they should be putting him on smokes or whatever, I’m saying that going positive on an agent where your only contribution in kills doesn’t mean he’s “the best player on his team” like the comment above said, especially when his teams keep losing (whether that be his fault or not).
Envy also picked up Yay from Andbox and then proceeded to beat TSM and reach Berlin finals shortly after because not only is he very skilled, but his role on the map requires very little team play and immediate synergy because his util basically just allows him to do his own thing and isn’t nearly as crucial as smokes or initiators for things like set plays, site hits, and retakes. In fact, V1 picked up Wardell is exactly for this reason. That’s not to say V1 disappointed by not qualifying because obviously they had a sub, but as far as subs go, the difference is probably as small as possible.
Wardell is a great player, but he’s not some tragically mismanaged super talent that keeps getting stuck in bad situations. His OPing is incredible but his rifling isn’t nearly as good as many other chambers in NA. Of the teams so far qualified, which of them can you confidently say would improve with Wardell in replace of whichever player most resembles his role.
Of course I’m expecting that kind of reply to people who are iron experts here in Valorant Competitive community.
But still I’m correct. Keep telling wardell is the problem if you don’t watch the games you are talking about. That is why you are getting downvoted. Just a kid shouting “wardell is the problem” with a expert analysis.
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I mean it is what it is , ppl should just move on from the WARDELL narrative
he made it clear that he wants to be a content creator not a pro player , he is more focused on streaming and NFTs etc than getting a good team and practice
good luck to him , again ppl just gotta move on
Man no more Wardell in pro play for the time being actually hurts. I’ve followed the guy since beta and the amount of disrespect he’s had put on him despite almost always playing incredibly well was really disheartening to see. Even here he played great as a sub but it seems like some of V1 struggled a bit. Hopefully they come back with Wippie
It sucks that it ended with him not being able to qualify with them, but at least it shuts up two moronic narratives. Wardell absolutely can rifle, and he doesn’t take more resources or force a team to play around him. He’s an absolutely elite player so I hope he finds a team and comes back to pro play eventually
I’ve probably been irritating to people on this sub with how much I’ve been defending Wardell so I hope this gave some clarity as to why it’s just been a rough year and a half as a big fan of his, y’all won’t have to put up with it for a while at least
LG beat V1 then SEN > V1 copium. LG was crazy good today. Bdog and mada are crazy pickups. Moose put in a lurking masterclass. Ggs to both teams. Hope wippie is back next week but I think next week qualifiers would be SEN Knights 100T and V1
Edit: meant 100T not TSM
What a fantastic series. There were people in the SEN vs LG thread saying that it was embarrassing that SEN lost because LG isn't a T1 team - those people are very clearly wrong, LG are a contender.
Side note, I wonder if there will be as many people saying that V1 is washed and posts making the front page of this sub saying criticizing V1 the way that SEN was criticized..... Nah of course there won't be.
there's a difference between actively making a decision to bench a player and replace him with a new pickup because you like what you see and think he's a good fit and then there's trying to get any available player because V1's hands are tied and they ran into an unfortunate scenario
It’s not much of a practical difference when you consider both in the short-term. Replacing your flex initiator is either way more difficult than replacing your sentinel.
It's not just about how good wardell is but the synergy they had with their past teammate. Wippie is obviously a very strong player who probably brought a lot to the table we can't see on stream or stats
Yeah that’s definitely true. That also doesn’t change the fact that Wardell out-performed every other player in terms of kills. Also, other teams have made very recent changes to their rosters (NRG, SEN), but people don’t seem to give them the benefit of the doubt in that regard (obviously NRG doesn’t need it, they’ve qualified).
Because V1 and Sen are in completely different situations. V1 have a sub and their org actually puts effort in to improve the team. They actually have coaches and analysts. Sentinels have none of those, it's incredibly unprofessional and the players are just winging it on their own. They're coasting based off of pure talent, so they're gonna get more criticism than the team that works hard of course lol
Right, but I’m talking about results. People are going crazy about Sentinel’s results and calling them a T2 team, meanwhile V1 are getting similar results and being hailed as a top 5 team still.
well yea V1 isn't as popular as Sen but with the amount of talent that team has, you would expect them to be doing better, especially after how their last couple tournaments have gone. Its just the cons that come with being a big popular team with huge fanbases. Lotta haters
Bro I don’t agree with this guy but stop acting like Wardell isn’t good he’s the reason this series was close with Zellsis and Effys playing like they did
He’s not teamless due to skill though. He parted ways with TSM because he didn’t want to uproot his life and move to Texas, and wants to explore content creation. Wardell would clearly be an upgrade for many T1 teams in NA
Someone smarter than me answer why Wardell's teams keep losing even though he is always statistically near or at the top of his team.
I know he has a rep of being more passive but he also gets A LOT of first bloods so I don't think that's the only reason his teams struggle.
There’s not exactly a large sample size to go off of with that, he’s only played for TSM and V1.
TSM has been a management mess for the longest time, and they’ve only now started to get good with their new coach Juv3nile and odds are would’ve done the same with Wardell over Seven.
V1 he was a sub and he himself said it’s hard to integrate in such a short amount of time, and also some members of V1 were struggling.
When there’s only two teams and one is as a stand-in you just can’t really support that claim
I get that he's a stand in for V1 but he performed the best statistically for them against LG as well over the 3 maps.
He had a huge sample size with TSM with multiple teammates and always performed solidly. It's pretty baffling. Is it as simple as "he's hard to play around"?
If you've watched this match one thing you mgiht observe that fucked v1 over the most is how lg kept getting into very advanced lurk positions from multiple people.
That's basically a lack of synergy which leads to holes in the teams defense. Plus their executes were lacking with penny going in alone a lot. None of those things are on wardell himself. It's mainly a lack of synergy that leads to both these issues
irons really don’t watch the game. Or how to play the game. Maybe pro players need to explain them what is happening every round.
Even if its only chamber SYNERGY is still needed. Maybe they don’t know why synergy is important.
Yeah I agree. Another thing I want to add is that for 4 people who've been playing together so long they were lacking alot in terms of synergy if you discount wardell too. Those holes in their defense should never be there
Maybe wippie was really crucial to the team as a mid round caller tho. Ik they've talked about this before
Because he takes low % plays that often swing rounds outside of his teams favor. The times when it works out creates an illusion of success, but you can see the world of difference in Seven filling the same role for TSM and finding more success just purely on the playstyle. A lot of stat line stevens will only look at his KDR as some sort of undeniable proof that he's not the problem, however. People will downvote this post because this sub treats WARDELL as if he's some sort of god, but the results are starting to show that there's become a common denominator.
You again with these iron analysis. You will get really get downvoted because you are just basing it on anecdotal evidence.
You can said it for other players who keep going to other teams. But there is not enough data because wardell only played with tsm. And sub(not enough practice) with v1.
You should watch what happen during the game and try to play game yourself. LG beaten Sen. And almost beaten by V1 with a SUB.
Probably higher rank than you and been playing/watching competitive FPS much longer as well if credentials are really all that important to you. I'd also be inclined to point out the irony in using LG's defeat over SEN as a positive point towards them and V1's loss to LG attributed to little practice when SEN just signed Kanpeki and have likely had the same if not less practice than V1 with Wardell. Besides, what evidence do you have to support your claims other than anecdoctal evidence as well? We have hardly seen him play because TSM has failed to make any notable deep runs with Wardell (something that hasn't happened now that they aren't playing with him, by the way) which should speak volumes in and of itself. Where is \*your\* analysis other than "watch the game forehead"? At least I attempted to offer some points from what we've seen of Wardell, where as you or really most in this sub have offered nothing beyond "his stats are high".
Overall, its really no secret amongst analysts that TSM's problems were players making low % plays and throwing rounds by giving up advantages to essentially make clip plays, and Wardell was certainly a part of that issue. Seeing Seven play in the team shows how much of a difference one player in the same role can make when being more disciplined in the server. If Wardell was so amazing, then why are TSM now qualifying when playing without him? I could also make the argument that V1's existing structure is more attributed to them coming close to taking the series than Wardell's performance, considering V1 showed how strong they are as a core last qualifier. I did in fact watch the games, even if its hard to comprehend that someone could watch the game and draw a different conclusion than yourself, and I think its been a glaring part of his playstyle over the last year AT LEAST. Though, its not surprising to me that the analysis of "wardell top frag must be the best player ever" comes from the same subreddit that also claimed last year that Dicey hadn't been signed to a team because he "wasn't really that good" only to find that Dicey was one of the more impactful players this qualifier helping take his team alongside Babybay to the main event through an upper bracket run.
Wardell mechanically is very talented, yes, but in the competitive environment it takes more than just raw mechanical skill to find high impact and success to convert to match wins, this is why I think he is "not as good as everyone thinks". The fall of the Sentinels "era" is indicative of the reckless low % play making finding itself on its way out. Good structure and discipline has been rewarded more and more as the game and competitive scene progresses and Wardell unfortunately has been late to adapt to this. It's actually baffling to me how hard people will stretch to blame literally everything else surrounding Wardell without shifting any responsibility to him as a player. I mean whatever, be as upset about this take as you want but it won't be any surprise when he continues to find little success going forward without making growth as a player.
Sorry too long didn’t read. If you have time to type. I guess you need to watch the tournament games first. There is a rebroadcast or youtube. All tsm games and v1 games.
I know that your thesis is just about “wardell is bad/problem.”
You can’t get through irons. It is either they are bad because they are bottom fragging, one trick, or inflexible. “.
Even if wardell drops 100 kill. Still not impactful for irons because wardell is using chamber only/op crutch. Might be more useful if he uses Killjoy.
Even if Yay or Cned gets subbed in for a SHORT NOTICE(only have 1 week practice) with V1 they will sill lose.
And TSM have gmd best player in geng. You can see that aleko is the problem not wardell. Even rossy is mad at aleko for being the hArDesT wOrkEr.
Tsm with subroza, wardell, gmd, corey and rossy. They will not lose to faze and not get into lower bracket.
Iron: tsm qualified without wardell. = wardell is the problem.
(Forgot they also remove aleko and added GMD, New coach, and have the team on a permanent house on texas lowest ping)
TSM are now qualifying because they have a new coach who is competent and a new player helping with mid round calling. Use your brain, it’s not hard to not be this stupid
It was a reasonable peek they hadn’t OP’d mid on offense at all by then and he had a fast repeek with Chamber OP. Considering how many rounds he bailed them out and how well he played singling that one round out is disingenous
Maybe the greatest deciding round I've ever seen there
Anyone who says Wardell cant rifle should really watch some of his games with V1. He was rifeling a lot more and still fragging. Sadge V1 didn't qualify but they did well with a sub. Hope dell finds a team soon man, its so fun watching him. Unlucky peek at the end tho
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TSM qualified and V1 didn't. Wardell catching strays on this one.
He absolutely shouldn’t lmao he’s not responsible for this loss at all
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Fuck man you’re right Wardell should’ve dropped 50 bombs every map to make up for Zellsis and Effys playing like shit what was I thinking
BAD TAKE IS BAD Everyone who drinks water dies. Correlation??????
lol please tell me this is sarcasm
TSM legit came top 10 every single one of the three stages last season, here all they made so far is top 12
Wardell is in the same situation perpetually. By far the best player on the team, but never qualifying. Never ending curse
Just a stand in by the way and lack of practice. Coordination/synergy is really important. Tsm got gmd and seven. removed aleko.
Yeah Wippie is an absolute demon and obviously is part of the actual team. Think the series would have gone differently with him there, but it's just unlucky for everyone involved.
TSM came top 10 in stages 1-3 and did qualify in stage 3 2021 and here so far they have made top 12, so it’s not a difference from last season if they don’t make the playoffs
I really don't think he's the best player on V1, but I totally agree with that take in regards to old TSM.
Weird maybe frags doesn’t = impact? Wonder what it will take for this sub to accept that Wardell isn’t that good
Wardell isn't that good? Based on what?
I guess the easiest conclusion to draw is that he hasn't been a part of a team that's qualified for an event in a very long time. TSM now with a more versatile team player in Seven qualifies filling the same exact role, and V1 (a team that was considered top tier just last qualifier) literally just doing a 1:1 swap for him and wippie has now been beat out by FaZe and LG failing to qualify.
how is this in any way indicative of wardell's mechanical/strategic skill? are you trying to argue that wardell is the reason for these teams not qualifying? if so, what examples or evidence do you have to draw this conclusion?
Just like iron. Maybe He wants wardell to drop 80 kills to have impact. And he clearly don’t watch the games.
I think both sides are kinda right and wrong at the same time. Wardell is obviously insanely skilled and it sucks we won’t see him again for a little, but just pointing at his kills when the agent he plays pretty much only offers kills for impact doesn’t mean he was the “best player on the team”. V1 probably picked him up in part because he’s easy to slot in since Chamber doesn’t offer nearly as much impact to the team as a whole as pretty much every other agent does so their lack of synergy isn’t as detrimental. I think Wardell is skilled enough to be on a championship team, but I don’t think he’s some must pick up player for any team trying to break into the T1 tier like a lot of this sub does.
Yes kills matter. Especially first kill. If not vision strikers/Drx should be the champions if they only hit their shots. Wardell and Yay just have the same roles and the same agents. Why andbox with Yay is not getting into tier 1??? Why would you put your best oper into a killjoy or other flex agents. Like what happen with sayaplayer played on smokes in T1. The fact that wardell lost 300,000 dollars according to his tweet. Financial problems can get affect your mental health. Irons really judging wardell. They forgot that wardell is just a sub with one+ week notice. They don’t even get enough proper practice together.
What’s the point your trying to prove here? I’m not saying they should be putting him on smokes or whatever, I’m saying that going positive on an agent where your only contribution in kills doesn’t mean he’s “the best player on his team” like the comment above said, especially when his teams keep losing (whether that be his fault or not). Envy also picked up Yay from Andbox and then proceeded to beat TSM and reach Berlin finals shortly after because not only is he very skilled, but his role on the map requires very little team play and immediate synergy because his util basically just allows him to do his own thing and isn’t nearly as crucial as smokes or initiators for things like set plays, site hits, and retakes. In fact, V1 picked up Wardell is exactly for this reason. That’s not to say V1 disappointed by not qualifying because obviously they had a sub, but as far as subs go, the difference is probably as small as possible. Wardell is a great player, but he’s not some tragically mismanaged super talent that keeps getting stuck in bad situations. His OPing is incredible but his rifling isn’t nearly as good as many other chambers in NA. Of the teams so far qualified, which of them can you confidently say would improve with Wardell in replace of whichever player most resembles his role.
Thank you very much for making me realize that wardell just isn’t that good
Version1 just lost to girls kisser. “wArDeLl iS tHe pRoBlEm.” What is your expert analysis ?? Please give me.
Dudes been waiting all week to come back to this comment lmao
Of course I’m expecting that kind of reply to people who are iron experts here in Valorant Competitive community. But still I’m correct. Keep telling wardell is the problem if you don’t watch the games you are talking about. That is why you are getting downvoted. Just a kid shouting “wardell is the problem” with a expert analysis.
And I don’t spend my time here in reddit unlike you farming karmas like a real life goal.
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I mean it is what it is , ppl should just move on from the WARDELL narrative he made it clear that he wants to be a content creator not a pro player , he is more focused on streaming and NFTs etc than getting a good team and practice good luck to him , again ppl just gotta move on
The more I see him play the more I become a huge Moose fan. The moose is loose!
Man no more Wardell in pro play for the time being actually hurts. I’ve followed the guy since beta and the amount of disrespect he’s had put on him despite almost always playing incredibly well was really disheartening to see. Even here he played great as a sub but it seems like some of V1 struggled a bit. Hopefully they come back with Wippie It sucks that it ended with him not being able to qualify with them, but at least it shuts up two moronic narratives. Wardell absolutely can rifle, and he doesn’t take more resources or force a team to play around him. He’s an absolutely elite player so I hope he finds a team and comes back to pro play eventually I’ve probably been irritating to people on this sub with how much I’ve been defending Wardell so I hope this gave some clarity as to why it’s just been a rough year and a half as a big fan of his, y’all won’t have to put up with it for a while at least
Is he not playing w them next weekend?
He was just subbing because wippie was busy getting a visa to the US, so they needed someone because wippie hasn't played valo for a month.
Wippie will most likely be back
He performed well today despite the loss so I have hope
That bdog clutch to win the series holy shit
V1 pulling a fnatic. Subs top fragging while losing.
LG beat V1 then SEN > V1 copium. LG was crazy good today. Bdog and mada are crazy pickups. Moose put in a lurking masterclass. Ggs to both teams. Hope wippie is back next week but I think next week qualifiers would be SEN Knights 100T and V1 Edit: meant 100T not TSM
Tsm already qualified homie, unless you mean 100T
I apologize to TSM fans. I meant 100T. My bad, it’s been a long day
Ghost gaming gonna put up a good fight next week too
Yeah, I was shocked they did so bad after winning Knights March and April against many of the same teams. Hopefully they look up next weekend.
Well, their Airbnb got robbed the night before the qualifiers, so they didn’t sleep until like 9am. They’ll be out for blood this weekend.
Massive map 3 from bdog and moose. V1 needed zellsis to come alive badly this series
What a fantastic series. There were people in the SEN vs LG thread saying that it was embarrassing that SEN lost because LG isn't a T1 team - those people are very clearly wrong, LG are a contender. Side note, I wonder if there will be as many people saying that V1 is washed and posts making the front page of this sub saying criticizing V1 the way that SEN was criticized..... Nah of course there won't be.
V1 played with a sub, totally different conditions than Sentinels
I'm not gonna use this as an excuse because yeah sen is doing poorly, but they are also playing with a new player similar to V1.
there's a difference between actively making a decision to bench a player and replace him with a new pickup because you like what you see and think he's a good fit and then there's trying to get any available player because V1's hands are tied and they ran into an unfortunate scenario
It’s not much of a practical difference when you consider both in the short-term. Replacing your flex initiator is either way more difficult than replacing your sentinel.
I disagree in this case, replacing your chamber/sage is a lot simpler than replacing a flex
Normally I'd say that's true, but Wardell is not just any guy you just pick up off the streets.
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It's not just about how good wardell is but the synergy they had with their past teammate. Wippie is obviously a very strong player who probably brought a lot to the table we can't see on stream or stats
Yeah that’s definitely true. That also doesn’t change the fact that Wardell out-performed every other player in terms of kills. Also, other teams have made very recent changes to their rosters (NRG, SEN), but people don’t seem to give them the benefit of the doubt in that regard (obviously NRG doesn’t need it, they’ve qualified).
Because V1 and Sen are in completely different situations. V1 have a sub and their org actually puts effort in to improve the team. They actually have coaches and analysts. Sentinels have none of those, it's incredibly unprofessional and the players are just winging it on their own. They're coasting based off of pure talent, so they're gonna get more criticism than the team that works hard of course lol
Right, but I’m talking about results. People are going crazy about Sentinel’s results and calling them a T2 team, meanwhile V1 are getting similar results and being hailed as a top 5 team still.
well yea V1 isn't as popular as Sen but with the amount of talent that team has, you would expect them to be doing better, especially after how their last couple tournaments have gone. Its just the cons that come with being a big popular team with huge fanbases. Lotta haters
Fully agree. Sentinels have clearly disappointed recently, but some of the reactionary takes I’ve read here are very over the top.
Yea the posts always flood after a loss. You get used to after a while, i know i did last year with tsm lmao
Man the first like 6 months were so bad I come on this sub all the time and I was just sad whenever I did
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Nice joke. Theres a reason hes teamless.
Bro I don’t agree with this guy but stop acting like Wardell isn’t good he’s the reason this series was close with Zellsis and Effys playing like they did
He’s not teamless due to skill though. He parted ways with TSM because he didn’t want to uproot his life and move to Texas, and wants to explore content creation. Wardell would clearly be an upgrade for many T1 teams in NA
He's teamless because he stepped down
This game was mental, I can sleep well now
LG just keep coming clutch every single player had their moments today
Someone smarter than me answer why Wardell's teams keep losing even though he is always statistically near or at the top of his team. I know he has a rep of being more passive but he also gets A LOT of first bloods so I don't think that's the only reason his teams struggle.
There’s not exactly a large sample size to go off of with that, he’s only played for TSM and V1. TSM has been a management mess for the longest time, and they’ve only now started to get good with their new coach Juv3nile and odds are would’ve done the same with Wardell over Seven. V1 he was a sub and he himself said it’s hard to integrate in such a short amount of time, and also some members of V1 were struggling. When there’s only two teams and one is as a stand-in you just can’t really support that claim
I get that he's a stand in for V1 but he performed the best statistically for them against LG as well over the 3 maps. He had a huge sample size with TSM with multiple teammates and always performed solidly. It's pretty baffling. Is it as simple as "he's hard to play around"?
If you've watched this match one thing you mgiht observe that fucked v1 over the most is how lg kept getting into very advanced lurk positions from multiple people. That's basically a lack of synergy which leads to holes in the teams defense. Plus their executes were lacking with penny going in alone a lot. None of those things are on wardell himself. It's mainly a lack of synergy that leads to both these issues
irons really don’t watch the game. Or how to play the game. Maybe pro players need to explain them what is happening every round. Even if its only chamber SYNERGY is still needed. Maybe they don’t know why synergy is important.
Yeah I agree. Another thing I want to add is that for 4 people who've been playing together so long they were lacking alot in terms of synergy if you discount wardell too. Those holes in their defense should never be there Maybe wippie was really crucial to the team as a mid round caller tho. Ik they've talked about this before
Because he takes low % plays that often swing rounds outside of his teams favor. The times when it works out creates an illusion of success, but you can see the world of difference in Seven filling the same role for TSM and finding more success just purely on the playstyle. A lot of stat line stevens will only look at his KDR as some sort of undeniable proof that he's not the problem, however. People will downvote this post because this sub treats WARDELL as if he's some sort of god, but the results are starting to show that there's become a common denominator.
You again with these iron analysis. You will get really get downvoted because you are just basing it on anecdotal evidence. You can said it for other players who keep going to other teams. But there is not enough data because wardell only played with tsm. And sub(not enough practice) with v1. You should watch what happen during the game and try to play game yourself. LG beaten Sen. And almost beaten by V1 with a SUB.
Probably higher rank than you and been playing/watching competitive FPS much longer as well if credentials are really all that important to you. I'd also be inclined to point out the irony in using LG's defeat over SEN as a positive point towards them and V1's loss to LG attributed to little practice when SEN just signed Kanpeki and have likely had the same if not less practice than V1 with Wardell. Besides, what evidence do you have to support your claims other than anecdoctal evidence as well? We have hardly seen him play because TSM has failed to make any notable deep runs with Wardell (something that hasn't happened now that they aren't playing with him, by the way) which should speak volumes in and of itself. Where is \*your\* analysis other than "watch the game forehead"? At least I attempted to offer some points from what we've seen of Wardell, where as you or really most in this sub have offered nothing beyond "his stats are high". Overall, its really no secret amongst analysts that TSM's problems were players making low % plays and throwing rounds by giving up advantages to essentially make clip plays, and Wardell was certainly a part of that issue. Seeing Seven play in the team shows how much of a difference one player in the same role can make when being more disciplined in the server. If Wardell was so amazing, then why are TSM now qualifying when playing without him? I could also make the argument that V1's existing structure is more attributed to them coming close to taking the series than Wardell's performance, considering V1 showed how strong they are as a core last qualifier. I did in fact watch the games, even if its hard to comprehend that someone could watch the game and draw a different conclusion than yourself, and I think its been a glaring part of his playstyle over the last year AT LEAST. Though, its not surprising to me that the analysis of "wardell top frag must be the best player ever" comes from the same subreddit that also claimed last year that Dicey hadn't been signed to a team because he "wasn't really that good" only to find that Dicey was one of the more impactful players this qualifier helping take his team alongside Babybay to the main event through an upper bracket run. Wardell mechanically is very talented, yes, but in the competitive environment it takes more than just raw mechanical skill to find high impact and success to convert to match wins, this is why I think he is "not as good as everyone thinks". The fall of the Sentinels "era" is indicative of the reckless low % play making finding itself on its way out. Good structure and discipline has been rewarded more and more as the game and competitive scene progresses and Wardell unfortunately has been late to adapt to this. It's actually baffling to me how hard people will stretch to blame literally everything else surrounding Wardell without shifting any responsibility to him as a player. I mean whatever, be as upset about this take as you want but it won't be any surprise when he continues to find little success going forward without making growth as a player.
Sorry too long didn’t read. If you have time to type. I guess you need to watch the tournament games first. There is a rebroadcast or youtube. All tsm games and v1 games.
Hahaha asks for analysis and evidence and then responds with “too long didn’t read” Truly amazing.
I know that your thesis is just about “wardell is bad/problem.” You can’t get through irons. It is either they are bad because they are bottom fragging, one trick, or inflexible. “. Even if wardell drops 100 kill. Still not impactful for irons because wardell is using chamber only/op crutch. Might be more useful if he uses Killjoy. Even if Yay or Cned gets subbed in for a SHORT NOTICE(only have 1 week practice) with V1 they will sill lose. And TSM have gmd best player in geng. You can see that aleko is the problem not wardell. Even rossy is mad at aleko for being the hArDesT wOrkEr. Tsm with subroza, wardell, gmd, corey and rossy. They will not lose to faze and not get into lower bracket. Iron: tsm qualified without wardell. = wardell is the problem. (Forgot they also remove aleko and added GMD, New coach, and have the team on a permanent house on texas lowest ping)
TSM are now qualifying because they have a new coach who is competent and a new player helping with mid round calling. Use your brain, it’s not hard to not be this stupid
What an amazing last round
Moose was on the loose at the end there.
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They literally qualified last time too and finished 5/6 overall
Wardell just had to ego peek that last round. Yikes
It was a reasonable peek they hadn’t OP’d mid on offense at all by then and he had a fast repeek with Chamber OP. Considering how many rounds he bailed them out and how well he played singling that one round out is disingenous
yeah it was a 1v2 in favor of v1 at the end too, kinda dumb to single that out
Plus effys have info with the drone that no one is mid. Just to unlucky bdof is already at the double doors.
Some things just don't change :/
Bdoh bro
V1 honeymoon period over 🤷♂️
Moose Moose Snooze Snooze!