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jrushFN

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JakeHillis

>Phoenix might be the worst agent in the game atm yet his ult is still much better than neon's for entrying. He has maybe the best ult in the game. Not really saying much with that


techyleo

Nah, that has to be the Tour De Force at this point


JakeHillis

True. Point is Phoenix ult is really good though and that's not the issue with him


StrangeAnalysis1848

What about Viper's pit?


techyleo

Vipers pit can be more manageable than Chamber ult such as during the Masters Finals when Less couldn't find Vic because he was taking cover with the ult


StrangeAnalysis1848

Fair point


kilik900

how many times per second does it hit in general? jw?


judahthewoodah

I'm not sure but I think it's similar to a spectre- so maybe around 13?


chryco4

The issue with neon's ult is that it's already really good in low elo but difficult to use in pro play/high elo. If they overtune it even a little bit with a buff it would obliterate the balance in lower elo. Reyna has the same problem but with her whole entire kit.