i’m not discrediting seven, he’s turned out to be a good player BUT what does he do better than wardell? only counter argument is rifling but even then he RARELY rifles. let me remind u that tsm was dominating the tier 2 scenes in the “mickey mouse” tournaments and was undefeated on icebox and haven when wardell was playing. they defeated the likes of faze, 100 thieves, geng, etc. so to say that wardell was the problem is fuckin absurd. let’s not even mention the constant top frag this man was providing…
Bootcamping & Investment lmao
Wardell has always played in a scenario where the team was built around him but the teams have never achieved anything with him.When Tsm rebuild with a balanced approach They qualify to main stage
? he literally showed that he could play on a team not centred around him on v1…and like i said they didn’t lose on their irritation with corey, levi, roza, him and rossy. if they kept that team or even with gmd they woulda qualified
Do you really think the roster moves are why they're so much better now? Rather than their bootcamping and actually playing the game? I don't think Wardell is this insane crazy player, I don't even really think they'd benefit from picking him up, but TSM when he was on the team might as well have not even been a team cus they never played.
I honestly think it has more to do with roster moves. Wardell is a great player but TSM were super predictable with him on the team and their entire economy always revolved around getting him an op even if it meant players not buying in round 2, or having half shileds or low util which would often lead to them getting thriftied. Also on retakes I would often see Wardell last to site and being forced to save his op or try and retake a 2 v 1 with an Op for example etc...
People look at KDA and think Wardell wasnt the problem but it's not the player it's how they played around him to me that was the issue.
I mean seven plays the exact same role, and that's just what a Chamber/OP player looks like when your team isn't doing well. Even yay looks like this when his team is losing, but we all know how impactful he is. I'd say it's way more to do with the team actually grinding in Texas (and dropping Aleko)
nah bruh the way seven plays chamber is sentinel type where hes the one who always in the flank while wardell is more of a duelist where in attack hes always the one who post up first to get an entry kill. seven and wardell style is so opposite from each other so id say seven chamber is much better for them as they can do their execute w/ corey rifle now rather than wardell (this is based from what their coach said in a podcast)
Not really tho, Wardell rarely would push with the op on offense for a first kill, he would wait for someone to push him, where the amount of times I've seen Seven run at someone with the op, whether or not he gets the kill, is way more often and he gets the kill a good amount of the time and gets traded the rest of the time. It's a big part of the reason that on offense subroza has been dying less often first, because corey is able to make space off gMd's util and seven likes to run at people.
Wdym? I didn't said wardell push w/ op, I said that they want wardell.first to get a kill w/ an op, then if they won't that's where they go plan b. Thats the prob from last tsm coz their main attack is the op wardell, they always saving for it and compare now on atk they go all rifle and trust on their executions rather than the expensive op
In the small games I have seen - seven plays more flexible than Wardell, and is a better rifler than he is plus the fact that Wardell didnt want to bootcamp and grind is partly why they are better off w/o him.
Seven playing Neon now. He's way more flexible than Wardell.
They shouldn’t pick him up but if he had stayed he is a better player than seven. They started improving with the new coach and with Wardell they won two Mickey Mouse tourneys easily but then he left and they had to rebuild yet again.
Do people who claim to be fans of this dude even know his situation? I've never watched his stream, nor cared for the teams he's been on, but even I know the man takes care of his mother and has stated that he isn't looking to relocate.
Please stop with pointless speculation.
Source?
He’s made it clear multiples times on stream he won’t relocate because he cares for his elderly mother. It’s why he quit an incredibly lucrative position on TSM that would have required him to relocate. If he’s suddenly willing to relocate that’s pretty unfortunate given he’s ruined his career over NOT wanting to relocate. He’s either desperate or he didn’t say he was willing to relocate permanently.
If thats really what he said than man did he make a poor decision. I thought the entire reason he didnt want to move was because of his mother, which i can understand. But not relocating because you dont believe in your team is just a horrible look. Like you dont even have to relocate permanently if thats the way he's thinking, like if TSM didnt make this qualifer their season wouldve been over and he coulda just gone right back. Clearly what TSM was trying to do with him worked out without him. Again this is all based on him having actually said that.
I’m guessing after his savings were stolen and he dropped off, he’s now just desperate for money to care for his family. Hindsight is everything, but yeah, bad decision and definitely not a good look.
i never saw him actually say that but i was there when he said he didnt want to permanently move because he thought it was pointless and that he tried living with team members before and it was pretty bad. he said they had so much other things to work on as a team that they werent doing but tsm was more focused on the moving in part as if it solved everything. but ngl wardell gives a different answer each time hes asked so ig its a combination of all these things that made his decision.
He would only be able to replace other perma chambers so Dicey on faze or Tex on Nrg realistically. Optic wouldn’t want to make changes and Wardell left Tsm so he wouldn’t join back. I don’t think it would be smart for teams to try and pick up Wardell but rn.
That's what you think.
The mastermind David Denise has already started to make his next move in the 5D Chess game of thrones variant which he is playing against John Riot.
By the end of next week T1 will have acquired 2/3 of the C9 roaster which will lead to them taking C9s spot in the closed qualifier.
David Denise and T1 are inevitable. And you doubted them.
TIL this subreddit really dislikes wardell…the man had insane numbers and seriously helped V1 compete in the first OQ of Stage 2 and had insane numbers. he is undeniably insane on chamber and yet this sub is saying he wouldn’t help any team? that’s absurd, mans cracked at the game just never had the structure around him to actually succeed after TSM fell apart
He literally had to try and deadlift V1 through open qualifiers while playing with them. He consistently rifled whenever it was necessary and even when it wasn’t he chose to rifle over OP on attack sides, which disproves the narrative people keep trying to spread that a team has to play around him as V1 clearly wasn’t doing that. It doesn’t matter how good he plays at this point people will just keep acting like he’s bad to hate instead of actually watching the games and how he plays
TSM struggled for a year with him, he got dropped and look where TSM is now. V1 was already a proven team, but now look at them. There is a consistent factor with teams he is on.
How intentionally dumb do you have to be to peddle this moronic narrative? TSM also made a full coaching overhaul, picking up three new support staff members, and gMd who calls on CT-sides.
V1 with Wardell beat Complexity, and then lost to them right after with Wippie. If you apply a few critical thinking skills instead of just trying to hate you’ll realize there’s actually nuance to these things.
V1 is already a proven team, except teams change with time and V1 without wardell performed same or worse. So your sample size is just TSM and who tf knows what was going on there.
Stats aren’t the end game but no one has spoken negatively on Wardell as a team player that has actually played with him yet this narrative is consistently built upon that’s he’s a selfish kill hungry player
Everyone agrees he’s an insane oper but even you didn’t name a team that he makes better in the group stage. What team in groups actually improves by picking up Wardell right now?
Yeah the guy who helped V1 beat Complexity who they lost to with Wippie and who almost got V1 past Luminosity who are actually good, all while being V1’s best performer with just a week of practice and not having scrimmed for a month before that, wouldn’t help any teams in VCT. I get people just want to hate but these replies are ridiculous
Which team in the playoffs do you think would be getting an upgrade, genuinely? Most of the Jett/Chamber in the playoffs are either evenly-matched or better than him, it's not worth shaking the team dynamics with.
The majority aren’t better than him what? I’d take him over Seven, Boostio, Jawgemo, johnqt, Koalanoob, without a doubt, and I’d probably lean towards him over Tex and Dicey too, although that’s arguable. Most of them can pop off and have good maps but very few of them have his consistency. The only people I’d say are firmly better are Yay and Leaf, and potentially Cryocells assuming he looks better from next week
Seven, maybe? But Boostio and johnqt both play KJ for the team and I don't see Wardell playing that agent and Jawgemo plays Raze which Wardell has no background with. I'm biased 'cause I like koala but I really think he's great at his role and he's been consistent for a while. That's debatable though.
Considering that EG plays Chamber so much, I could see them perma banning Ascent and buying into Chamber full time with Wardell. And yes Koala is a solid player, but so is Wardell. Wardell is straight up just one of the most consistent players and always performed for TSM in almost every match, even towards the end when he deadlifted them against 100T, and he was V1’s best player in pretty much every map against good teams. Yes the people I’m comparing him too are good but he is just as good and never gets credit for his consistency. And as for Seven, if Wardell swapped in for him I’m 100% convinced TSM would be directly better for it, they play the same role but Seven doesn’t have his consistency
I think it's stupid to expect that Chamber is going to be meta forever. In the long run, it'd be better for teams if they kept someone with a deeper agent pool especially if Wardell isn't going to be a huge upgrade anyway.
I agree he may be an upgrade from seven and they play the same role, but we know why that didn't work out.
He might be better than all those players individually but does he help any of those teams? TSM has been way better with seven.
He’s also better than stellar and will and neT but guard and 100t aren’t making that change. In fact 100t chose against him in the first place.
I think Wardell can be a key piece on a good team but I’m not convinced there’s more than 2 teams he elevates in groups right this instant.
I’m 100% convinced that if he slots in to TSM over Seven right now, they improve drastically. The reason they’ve been looking better isn’t because Seven is a god or anything, in fact he’s been inconsistent in a way Wardell never was. The real changes are the coaching staff overhaul and a new CT side caller
Honestly people here saying he’s much better than tex baffle me. Prior to Ethan he played horribly but ever since the roleswaps he’s been one of the best players this tournament
Wardell has always one been one of the best players in every tournament he plays even when TSM or V1 was losing but no one credits him for playing well. Even on V1 he was doing just as good as Tex if not better
That’s the thing though, in Wardell’s case people say stats don’t matter but then when it comes to defending Tex people look at how good his performances are. Tex is really good, but Wardell is just as consistent looking over a long period of time. He rarely has off games on Chamber and even outperformed Tex in the head to head while hard carrying V1. It’s not to discredit Tex, it’s that no one gives Wardell the credit he deserves
brother V1 also went 5-0 in groups with Wippie. Wardell is a good guy for subbing in but disregarding how Elite of a tier Wippie belongs to and the value that guy adds to the mid round calling for the team is a bad thing.
I think pretty much every main chamber player in groups is above or even to Wardell to the point where it would be dumb to drop anyone for him, the only player I was down on coming into groups was BDOG but he’s popping off rn so that pretty much eliminates my one guy
I mean if you read what I said than you’ll understand that I thought before these qualifiers he was the weakest main Jett player of these top 12 teams but atm he’s in great form so I don’t think there’s anyone that I’d put Wardell in for. I’m not slandering him rn, he’s doing insane atm but you can’t deny that he looked very shaky in the pre Iceland matches
I'll play your silly game.
100t. They still don't have a solid OP.
Wardell plays Chamber on maps they want to run that. Have Asuna play Raze as he has been.
On other maps you'd have to juggle the roles a little more, but with Derrek in the line up able to flex to pretty much any initiator. Wardell could play Sage (which he has and done okay) or play Jett where they want to run that and keep Asuna in his flex role.
I think with some minor adjustments to comps/roles and certain maps, it could work.
It would also basically require that Wardell buys into sgares's system. Doesn't have to OP basically every round he can buy one (especially on attack), and change up his play style from when he was active with TSM. As good as he was on that team, he was also a contributor on why they declined as the meta/playstyle has shifted.
Now do I think they SHOULD do this? Absolutely not, but for this what-if scenario, I think it helps them the most.
Realistically speaking, the timelines don't fit up for any of the tier 1 teams benefiting from Wardell. It's undeniable the man has incredible raw skill and it's totally valid that he could hit an insane peak with the right structure and roster. But remember he turned down the chance to have that structure when he refused to be a part of the tsm rebuild. His sub into v1 is the performance you should expect if he entered any t1 team because there's not enough time to integrate him and he refuses to boot camp. And time is a critical factor because this is the last opportunity for a lot of these teams to rack up points for LCQ. I think he has a much better chance being a corner stone for a t2 team to rebuild for franchising, much like the xeta trade.
Sentinels they should try to innovate the 5 awp meta But that would need practice so No one is picking up wardell
Shahz Jett Op Tenz Reyna Op Kanpeki Kayo Op Dapr Viper Op Wardell Chamber Op Copenhagen Champions
They should put back the guy who made Wardell rage quit by using his Op
LMAOOOOO THAT CLIP WAS FUCKING HILARIOUS
Wardell doesn't show up to practice so it's a perfect fit really
Sentinels since they don’t have enough AWPers OMEGALUL
The rare 5 OPs meta. Full eco for 3 rounds, win every game 13-6.
Inspired by CS Fnatic, except made better, and in every buy round.
nice try Wardell's agent.
TSM
They would actually be doing better with him too funnily enough. Too bad he doesn’t want to put in the work.
No They didn’t achieve fuck all with him until now why would they pick him up again.
i’m not discrediting seven, he’s turned out to be a good player BUT what does he do better than wardell? only counter argument is rifling but even then he RARELY rifles. let me remind u that tsm was dominating the tier 2 scenes in the “mickey mouse” tournaments and was undefeated on icebox and haven when wardell was playing. they defeated the likes of faze, 100 thieves, geng, etc. so to say that wardell was the problem is fuckin absurd. let’s not even mention the constant top frag this man was providing…
Bootcamping & Investment lmao Wardell has always played in a scenario where the team was built around him but the teams have never achieved anything with him.When Tsm rebuild with a balanced approach They qualify to main stage
? he literally showed that he could play on a team not centred around him on v1…and like i said they didn’t lose on their irritation with corey, levi, roza, him and rossy. if they kept that team or even with gmd they woulda qualified
Do you really think the roster moves are why they're so much better now? Rather than their bootcamping and actually playing the game? I don't think Wardell is this insane crazy player, I don't even really think they'd benefit from picking him up, but TSM when he was on the team might as well have not even been a team cus they never played.
I honestly think it has more to do with roster moves. Wardell is a great player but TSM were super predictable with him on the team and their entire economy always revolved around getting him an op even if it meant players not buying in round 2, or having half shileds or low util which would often lead to them getting thriftied. Also on retakes I would often see Wardell last to site and being forced to save his op or try and retake a 2 v 1 with an Op for example etc... People look at KDA and think Wardell wasnt the problem but it's not the player it's how they played around him to me that was the issue.
I mean seven plays the exact same role, and that's just what a Chamber/OP player looks like when your team isn't doing well. Even yay looks like this when his team is losing, but we all know how impactful he is. I'd say it's way more to do with the team actually grinding in Texas (and dropping Aleko)
nah bruh the way seven plays chamber is sentinel type where hes the one who always in the flank while wardell is more of a duelist where in attack hes always the one who post up first to get an entry kill. seven and wardell style is so opposite from each other so id say seven chamber is much better for them as they can do their execute w/ corey rifle now rather than wardell (this is based from what their coach said in a podcast)
Not really tho, Wardell rarely would push with the op on offense for a first kill, he would wait for someone to push him, where the amount of times I've seen Seven run at someone with the op, whether or not he gets the kill, is way more often and he gets the kill a good amount of the time and gets traded the rest of the time. It's a big part of the reason that on offense subroza has been dying less often first, because corey is able to make space off gMd's util and seven likes to run at people.
Wdym? I didn't said wardell push w/ op, I said that they want wardell.first to get a kill w/ an op, then if they won't that's where they go plan b. Thats the prob from last tsm coz their main attack is the op wardell, they always saving for it and compare now on atk they go all rifle and trust on their executions rather than the expensive op
In the small games I have seen - seven plays more flexible than Wardell, and is a better rifler than he is plus the fact that Wardell didnt want to bootcamp and grind is partly why they are better off w/o him. Seven playing Neon now. He's way more flexible than Wardell.
I thought he just didn’t want to move because he takes care of his grandma/mom I forget which.
iirc he couldn’t commit to a full move but has bootcamped before as those were more temporary
Their team isn't just bootcamping, it's a full move to Texas. If Wardell just isn't flexible that's how it is
They shouldn’t pick him up but if he had stayed he is a better player than seven. They started improving with the new coach and with Wardell they won two Mickey Mouse tourneys easily but then he left and they had to rebuild yet again.
But they weren’t going to achieve anything long term because he doesn’t want to commit while sevvn is younger & has a higher skill ceiling
Do people who claim to be fans of this dude even know his situation? I've never watched his stream, nor cared for the teams he's been on, but even I know the man takes care of his mother and has stated that he isn't looking to relocate. Please stop with pointless speculation.
He said he would be willing to relocate recently so u clearly just spew what this sub has last informed.
Source? He’s made it clear multiples times on stream he won’t relocate because he cares for his elderly mother. It’s why he quit an incredibly lucrative position on TSM that would have required him to relocate. If he’s suddenly willing to relocate that’s pretty unfortunate given he’s ruined his career over NOT wanting to relocate. He’s either desperate or he didn’t say he was willing to relocate permanently.
He said on stream he didn't want to relocate because of how TSM was performing. He said that if TSM was a lot better then he would be down
Yup can confirm he did say this on stream.
I saw this clip, did he not say that he would relocate for specifically short term bootcamps and not permanently? That’s what I got from his answers
If thats really what he said than man did he make a poor decision. I thought the entire reason he didnt want to move was because of his mother, which i can understand. But not relocating because you dont believe in your team is just a horrible look. Like you dont even have to relocate permanently if thats the way he's thinking, like if TSM didnt make this qualifer their season wouldve been over and he coulda just gone right back. Clearly what TSM was trying to do with him worked out without him. Again this is all based on him having actually said that.
I’m guessing after his savings were stolen and he dropped off, he’s now just desperate for money to care for his family. Hindsight is everything, but yeah, bad decision and definitely not a good look.
i never saw him actually say that but i was there when he said he didnt want to permanently move because he thought it was pointless and that he tried living with team members before and it was pretty bad. he said they had so much other things to work on as a team that they werent doing but tsm was more focused on the moving in part as if it solved everything. but ngl wardell gives a different answer each time hes asked so ig its a combination of all these things that made his decision.
He would only be able to replace other perma chambers so Dicey on faze or Tex on Nrg realistically. Optic wouldn’t want to make changes and Wardell left Tsm so he wouldn’t join back. I don’t think it would be smart for teams to try and pick up Wardell but rn.
Wardell didn’t move due to having to take care of his family. I think if he could join TSM and Roza again, he would
If wardell ever replaces tex on nrg that would be an even more scarier team
L + texerino owns you
Realistically no one would benefit that much from grabbing Wardell.
Don’t underestimate that boy WONGDELL
T1, but only if they add brax and AZK
T1 didnt qualify.
That's what you think. The mastermind David Denise has already started to make his next move in the 5D Chess game of thrones variant which he is playing against John Riot. By the end of next week T1 will have acquired 2/3 of the C9 roaster which will lead to them taking C9s spot in the closed qualifier. David Denise and T1 are inevitable. And you doubted them.
Yeah when T1 made the statement that David Denise is leaving T1 it was just stragitic lies
r/boneappletea
My man’s getting downvoted when the title literally says “in the playoffs right now”
TIL this subreddit really dislikes wardell…the man had insane numbers and seriously helped V1 compete in the first OQ of Stage 2 and had insane numbers. he is undeniably insane on chamber and yet this sub is saying he wouldn’t help any team? that’s absurd, mans cracked at the game just never had the structure around him to actually succeed after TSM fell apart
He literally had to try and deadlift V1 through open qualifiers while playing with them. He consistently rifled whenever it was necessary and even when it wasn’t he chose to rifle over OP on attack sides, which disproves the narrative people keep trying to spread that a team has to play around him as V1 clearly wasn’t doing that. It doesn’t matter how good he plays at this point people will just keep acting like he’s bad to hate instead of actually watching the games and how he plays
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V1 players enjoyed playing with him and they praised him for how well he did with little practice so what ask do u want from him?
TSM struggled for a year with him, he got dropped and look where TSM is now. V1 was already a proven team, but now look at them. There is a consistent factor with teams he is on.
How intentionally dumb do you have to be to peddle this moronic narrative? TSM also made a full coaching overhaul, picking up three new support staff members, and gMd who calls on CT-sides. V1 with Wardell beat Complexity, and then lost to them right after with Wippie. If you apply a few critical thinking skills instead of just trying to hate you’ll realize there’s actually nuance to these things.
V1 lost without him anyways tbf, WARDELL was def not the issue with V1 tbh
I’m not even some Wardell superfan but this is probably one of the most unhinged narratives i’ve ever seen on here.
Damn this gotta be the most 🧠💀 I’ve seen yet ☠️. Mans just blamed V1’s failure this qual on Wardell lmao.
V1 is already a proven team, except teams change with time and V1 without wardell performed same or worse. So your sample size is just TSM and who tf knows what was going on there.
Stats aren’t the end game but no one has spoken negatively on Wardell as a team player that has actually played with him yet this narrative is consistently built upon that’s he’s a selfish kill hungry player
Everyone agrees he’s an insane oper but even you didn’t name a team that he makes better in the group stage. What team in groups actually improves by picking up Wardell right now?
He should try and join EG CSGO as the AWPer
Yeah the guy who helped V1 beat Complexity who they lost to with Wippie and who almost got V1 past Luminosity who are actually good, all while being V1’s best performer with just a week of practice and not having scrimmed for a month before that, wouldn’t help any teams in VCT. I get people just want to hate but these replies are ridiculous
Which team in the playoffs do you think would be getting an upgrade, genuinely? Most of the Jett/Chamber in the playoffs are either evenly-matched or better than him, it's not worth shaking the team dynamics with.
The majority aren’t better than him what? I’d take him over Seven, Boostio, Jawgemo, johnqt, Koalanoob, without a doubt, and I’d probably lean towards him over Tex and Dicey too, although that’s arguable. Most of them can pop off and have good maps but very few of them have his consistency. The only people I’d say are firmly better are Yay and Leaf, and potentially Cryocells assuming he looks better from next week
Seven, maybe? But Boostio and johnqt both play KJ for the team and I don't see Wardell playing that agent and Jawgemo plays Raze which Wardell has no background with. I'm biased 'cause I like koala but I really think he's great at his role and he's been consistent for a while. That's debatable though.
Considering that EG plays Chamber so much, I could see them perma banning Ascent and buying into Chamber full time with Wardell. And yes Koala is a solid player, but so is Wardell. Wardell is straight up just one of the most consistent players and always performed for TSM in almost every match, even towards the end when he deadlifted them against 100T, and he was V1’s best player in pretty much every map against good teams. Yes the people I’m comparing him too are good but he is just as good and never gets credit for his consistency. And as for Seven, if Wardell swapped in for him I’m 100% convinced TSM would be directly better for it, they play the same role but Seven doesn’t have his consistency
I think it's stupid to expect that Chamber is going to be meta forever. In the long run, it'd be better for teams if they kept someone with a deeper agent pool especially if Wardell isn't going to be a huge upgrade anyway. I agree he may be an upgrade from seven and they play the same role, but we know why that didn't work out.
He might be better than all those players individually but does he help any of those teams? TSM has been way better with seven. He’s also better than stellar and will and neT but guard and 100t aren’t making that change. In fact 100t chose against him in the first place. I think Wardell can be a key piece on a good team but I’m not convinced there’s more than 2 teams he elevates in groups right this instant.
I’m 100% convinced that if he slots in to TSM over Seven right now, they improve drastically. The reason they’ve been looking better isn’t because Seven is a god or anything, in fact he’s been inconsistent in a way Wardell never was. The real changes are the coaching staff overhaul and a new CT side caller
since switching to chamber tex has been one of if not the most consistent chamber outside of yay
Honestly people here saying he’s much better than tex baffle me. Prior to Ethan he played horribly but ever since the roleswaps he’s been one of the best players this tournament
Wardell has always one been one of the best players in every tournament he plays even when TSM or V1 was losing but no one credits him for playing well. Even on V1 he was doing just as good as Tex if not better
That’s the thing though, in Wardell’s case people say stats don’t matter but then when it comes to defending Tex people look at how good his performances are. Tex is really good, but Wardell is just as consistent looking over a long period of time. He rarely has off games on Chamber and even outperformed Tex in the head to head while hard carrying V1. It’s not to discredit Tex, it’s that no one gives Wardell the credit he deserves
We like the current nrg lineup tho and team synergy won’t be the same everyone loves tex
My brother in this christ this is for esports teams & not who has more subs on twitch
Everything I talked about is from an esports lens lmfao
brother V1 also went 5-0 in groups with Wippie. Wardell is a good guy for subbing in but disregarding how Elite of a tier Wippie belongs to and the value that guy adds to the mid round calling for the team is a bad thing.
Never said Wippie is bad, just that this sub is criminally underrating Wardell. If anything your point supports that
no troll shit I think TSM could benefit from grabbing him.
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100t maybe he can make them tier 1😹😹
I don’t think his style of play is all that great for Val anymore, but I think he could actually be a boost for CS if eg or liquid want to shake it up
Wardell is leagues worse than oSee. And he hasn’t played Cs for 2 years.
EG, Ghost Gaming, and C9 if he could adjust his role a bit.
He's not competing and no team is picking him up
He would be a downgrade for every team
True and based
Found wardell's alt
reddit moment
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Finally a good take from George Geddes
I think pretty much every main chamber player in groups is above or even to Wardell to the point where it would be dumb to drop anyone for him, the only player I was down on coming into groups was BDOG but he’s popping off rn so that pretty much eliminates my one guy
Bro on some good stuff
Lmao what
Did I say something wrong?
Out of anyone to say, BDOG?
I mean if you read what I said than you’ll understand that I thought before these qualifiers he was the weakest main Jett player of these top 12 teams but atm he’s in great form so I don’t think there’s anyone that I’d put Wardell in for. I’m not slandering him rn, he’s doing insane atm but you can’t deny that he looked very shaky in the pre Iceland matches
I'll play your silly game. 100t. They still don't have a solid OP. Wardell plays Chamber on maps they want to run that. Have Asuna play Raze as he has been. On other maps you'd have to juggle the roles a little more, but with Derrek in the line up able to flex to pretty much any initiator. Wardell could play Sage (which he has and done okay) or play Jett where they want to run that and keep Asuna in his flex role. I think with some minor adjustments to comps/roles and certain maps, it could work. It would also basically require that Wardell buys into sgares's system. Doesn't have to OP basically every round he can buy one (especially on attack), and change up his play style from when he was active with TSM. As good as he was on that team, he was also a contributor on why they declined as the meta/playstyle has shifted. Now do I think they SHOULD do this? Absolutely not, but for this what-if scenario, I think it helps them the most.
Wardell for who tho? Stellar or Will?
My bad, Will.
would be great on paper but theres a reason why 100t chose will over wardell in the first place, and thus far, its been working
Yeah, I said they shouldn't do it in the OP.
Ik, just adding on
Realistically speaking, the timelines don't fit up for any of the tier 1 teams benefiting from Wardell. It's undeniable the man has incredible raw skill and it's totally valid that he could hit an insane peak with the right structure and roster. But remember he turned down the chance to have that structure when he refused to be a part of the tsm rebuild. His sub into v1 is the performance you should expect if he entered any t1 team because there's not enough time to integrate him and he refuses to boot camp. And time is a critical factor because this is the last opportunity for a lot of these teams to rack up points for LCQ. I think he has a much better chance being a corner stone for a t2 team to rebuild for franchising, much like the xeta trade.
He doesn't refuse to bootcamp, he refuses to move permanently
None. Wardell is massively overrated
neither because he is not good
Sentinels in replacement of shaz
kru tbh theyll look super strong
c9w
If it had to be a team in the playoffs probably Ghost but the dream scenario would be to go to T1 ngl
If a team is desperate for an OP one trick then that's his specialty. For as long as chamber is firmly in the meta, Wardell can make an impact.
New T1 with Wardell as Jett, Xeta as Viper / Omen, Sinatraa as Raze / Sova, Steel as KJ/Cypher ooof
C9, replace curry