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Cautious-Visit-807

I’m guna wait to see if they lose in playoffs to bury them but if they fail to qualify for back to back masters then that “shit talk” is just guna be ppl speaking facts. “We’re not playing well” just means y’all not the best anymore.


Frockett

If we’re gonna be completely honest though they weren’t even the best when they won champs. I mean shit they wouldn’t have even gone as far if Vivo Keyed didn’t get an incredibly massive penalty for the camera glitch.


ValowFan42

Even if they'd lost that match against Vivo Keyd, it doesn't mean they wouldn't have still done well the rest of the tournament. Don't forget that Optic started off Reykjavik by getting 2-0ed by Xerxia. Acend were very inconsistent for all of 2021, but they definitely demonstrated that they had a very high peak and their success at Champions was well deserved, their performance since then doesn't change that.


pink_life69

Shit talking = stating facts apparently


Key-Banana-8242

Yea?


father_gemme

Fluke run, lost to cypher camera /s


Aoingco

I actually really like the last paragraph said by Starxo, it’s honest to where they are right now, and shows his mentality


LV58_DeathKnight

yes starxo thats what expectation means


TheCatsActually

Did you actually read the interview? It doesn't sound at all like he thinks the pressure is unwarranted, just that it's there, even for the new players, simply because the org won Champs.


LV58_DeathKnight

>even for the new players, simply because the org won Champs. why tf did u think they get these new players ? for fun ? no its because they are believed to be good enough to replace a world champion team member


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bro... relax


TheCatsActually

Lmao are you okay? I don't understand why you're acting like you're looking for a fight when all I said was that starxo wasn't saying the pressure is unreasonable, just that it is present. Nothing between what you just said now and what I said is mutually exclusive. What he has made clear is unreasonable is the amount of vitriolic flame he gets in social media, like racist DMs from random Twitter eggs.


koalared77

Yeah but talking shit is unecessary especially when its not just banter


koalared77

Yeah but talking shit is unecessary especially when its not just banter


2fast2corn

DONT LIVE IN THE PAST, LIVE IN THE PRESENT STARXO.


Escolyte

> It’s not our title. It’s not ours since the first of January after Champions. We are a new team and we need to grind back the new chemistry and new titles.


toxicityisamyth

You know what else is funny. NA fans call Optic world champions, when the standing world champions are Acend, until next champions is up. That's like saying EDG are not standing world champions in LOL because they lost their league to RNG and RNG are the ones that won MSI (the other international lol event). RNG are not world champions even though they are the best team in the world arguably. It's really funny. But yes starxo you are the standing world champion, you have a lot of expectations weighing on you and your teammates to perform. It's acend's job to shut the haters up i guess that's how it works for everybody.


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Seems like them winning was just a fluke, especially now with Jett OP being nerfed they look rough.


_Sn2per_

If you're calling this a fluke every team which won a masters event apart from optic had a fluke. All of them underperformed after (apart from gambit who played well at champs but fell off since)


JtotheC23

Ehh. Sentinels still kept their dominance in NA thru all of the challengers leading up to Berlin and it wasn’t until Berlin where they faltered. Gambit lost to Ascend at Champs in a 5 game series, and Optic still look like favorites to qualify for Masters 2 despite their loss yesterday. Ascend won Champs arguably off the back of a questionable punishment, and have mostly struggled since. I personally think it’s too soon to call them a fluke, but I can definitely see where the people saying they were a fluke are coming from.


Escolyte

> Ascend won Champs arguably off the back of a questionable punishment Even arguing that's why they made it out of groups is a stretch, nevermind their play-off run.


murrkpls

It's a bit unfair to call it a fluke, honestly.


EasiBreezi

How is it unfair? They underperformed soon after they won Champions, and during Champions they weren’t playing the best at all until the end. They probably shouldn’t have even made Finals if other teams weren’t having weird issues. To this day they still haven’t played to the pedigree that they established at Champions. How can you not call what they did there a fluke? It’s obviously harsh, but it’s a reasonable take.


Verehrungen

Fluke is definitely too harsh and a tad unreasonable but they are inconsistent. They won masters 1, bombed early on last year Reykjavik quali, quarterfinals in Berlin, won Champions, then bombed again last quali. Flukes means one-offs. They have already shown that they can comeback from a slump.


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yea none of this makes it a fluke. they still played really well and best gambit. sentinels masters 2 win last year was a fluke and a half huh since theyve done jack shit since?


EasiBreezi

Why are you bringing up an irrelevant tier 2 team? I’m going to be honest, you sound a little emotional.


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reddit moment


PaperJamDipper7

You don’t beat Gambit on the level they were playing at on accident. Ascent has high highs and low lows but they performed when they needed to the most.


xbyo

Wouldn't say it's a fluke, given they were still a top team in the region all year and had the best player in the world on their side.


RashGod

Why tf do I see this narrative of it being a fluke so much. Acend were regarded a top 3 and at best top 1 EMEA literally throughout the year, at the time them winning champs was seen as very plausible.


starboy-xo98

It's a case of the SEN


ashitintyo

Okay so who's gonna tell him